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War Within Melee Dps RANKED - Best Single Target & AoE, Best Hero Talents, Best Overall 

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With the War Within expansion release date quickly approaching I know everyone is trying to figure out what their main character is going to be. In this video we'll go through every melee class and spec and rank how they are doing so far in the War Within. If you're struggling to figure out what you want to play, this might just help you out!
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00:00 - War Within Melee RANKED
00:42 - Arms Warrior
02:31 - Fury Warrior
04:07 - Survival Hunter
06:04 - Ret Paladin
07:54 - Havoc DH
09:38 - Outlaw Rogue
11:23 - Assassination Rogue
12:59 - Subtlety Rogue
14:04 - Feral Druid
15:53 - Enhancement Shaman
17:58 - Windwalker Monk
19:42 - Frost DK
21:31 - Unholy DK

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@SignsOfKelani
@SignsOfKelani 18 дней назад
Become a RU-vid member here - ru-vid.com/show-UCsxidPdmPXDlsS3rn7arJsAjoin Big crafting changes in The War Within - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eM-eLNgP_xk.html EVERYTHING coming in the war within prepatch - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-T-e2t7RXeRw.html Most important things to do before war within releases - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FLwegUrMhOw.html War Within Prepatch Event preview - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gaK7vg9FM7E.html
@bertjones3010
@bertjones3010 18 дней назад
can one assume that "S" means superior? I couldn't find where you actually discussed you ranking scale and it doesn't help when you time stamp it to cater to each class - another words skipping classes I don't play.
@DemonicInfinity
@DemonicInfinity 18 дней назад
"Playing around a static aoe can be pretty annoying" *Laughs in DK*
@Kurnhelios
@Kurnhelios 17 дней назад
Huffing hopium that they'll add a talent where death and decay follows you
@MostlyFish21
@MostlyFish21 15 дней назад
That's why I don't play DK. That, and they're way too slow for my liking. I don't like always overcapping on runic power but that's on me
@-TyTy
@-TyTy 11 дней назад
@@MostlyFish21 With the hero talent, ROTA, you're laughing in being faster
@ninjaAMN
@ninjaAMN 11 дней назад
Here's the breakdown of the tier list from the video: S Tier - Ret Paladin > Windwalker Monk A Tier - Unholy DK > Havoc DH > Survival Hunter > Frost DK > Fury Warrior B Tier - Feral Druid > Outlaw Rogue > Arms Warrior > Enhancement Shaman C Tier - Assassination Rogue > Subtlety Rogue
@TheMiddleAgedKidVideos
@TheMiddleAgedKidVideos 18 дней назад
Why is it creators never like passive or background effects? Most specs have enough active abilities to juggle as it is.
@pglove9554
@pglove9554 18 дней назад
It's a non point. Generally opinion. Game has changed fk all since launch when you really think about it..
@DemonicInfinity
@DemonicInfinity 18 дней назад
Because they are often just a number boost, so nothing that is new for a spec. Some people like that, but some people want the spec gameplay to actually change depending on your choice especially in talent and hero talent treee.
@Soulessdeeds
@Soulessdeeds 18 дней назад
I would rather see more passives than see blizzard add more buttons. We aren't 2014 PvP gods with 80 macros and keybinds.
@danielsmith2483
@danielsmith2483 18 дней назад
​@@pglove9554bro never played vanilla wow lol
@Daisudori
@Daisudori 18 дней назад
A good design will allow u to take passives or actives and have similar output. Choose your difficulty. Ele Shaman tree kinda had this
@ShadowMk3
@ShadowMk3 14 дней назад
Linked your video in the forum rogue feedback thread, we are desperate for eyes to be on the issues we are facing, so I appreciate the video even more, and I hope it will bring more attention to it
@buddyjarjoura5166
@buddyjarjoura5166 18 дней назад
Great video. Exactly the kind of overview I was looking for! Hope ranged/caster is up next!
@zeraora807
@zeraora807 18 дней назад
I love the thumbnail "Why are you yelling!? Lol
@OkayJay444
@OkayJay444 18 дней назад
Love the fantasy of Fatebound Outlaw. But like you said, not much to get excited about visually. I feel like it could be one of the coolest.
@LordGodfrey
@LordGodfrey 17 дней назад
So glad I main a DK, but I’m also excited MoP Remix let me get a ton of alts leveled!
@TadSoft
@TadSoft 18 дней назад
Rogue here crying for help.
@NinjaKhaos74
@NinjaKhaos74 18 дней назад
as a sub rogue i feel like i do 10x the work of say bm hunter but the same or less damage,shit is annoying
@mladengochev6918
@mladengochev6918 18 дней назад
atleast u are not a shaman :D
@kunjunction1
@kunjunction1 18 дней назад
rogues are fine he doesnt know half the rotations since the updates. missing huge prio on the video XD thats why i take what he posts LATE with a grain of salt.
@abnknyte
@abnknyte 17 дней назад
Rogues will get overtuned like they always do. Don't worry!
@leonardceres9061
@leonardceres9061 17 дней назад
crying is useless the other five Rogues playing the game won’t be able to hear you…
@bustrbsly82
@bustrbsly82 18 дней назад
you might want to take a 2nd look at havoc. their talents haven't changed but losing their tier set combined with the hero talents has completely changed the class. it plays very differently now.
@kunjunction1
@kunjunction1 18 дней назад
if you watch the video he doesnt even know the basic rotations or prio for specs. this video was rushed just to push shit out the door.
@clauslarsen8971
@clauslarsen8971 13 дней назад
I fee like he just rated it on the fact that he generally likes DH in every expansion
@monsterdragondeluxe
@monsterdragondeluxe 6 дней назад
This guy useally just reads wowhead patchnotes.. I guess this has 0 research and 0 effort for it. I honestly think he is not playing the beta that much.
@Drew71707
@Drew71707 6 дней назад
insultingly bad take on havoc yeah, oh I like how they play and they got no changes except hero talents gut the playstyles
@Zerstoror
@Zerstoror 18 дней назад
Wish you put chapters in
@Skrittlez
@Skrittlez 18 дней назад
Yesss
@TopicxWoW
@TopicxWoW 18 дней назад
Mained Rogue all of DF, I am re-rolling. Its the worst state the class has been in in all of M+ it’s so punishing if you mess up one RTB or accidentally drop stealth and lose buffs, if you die it’s terrible for the next 2 minutes. It suffers from RP and flying cause you have to break stealth, it has no utility at all, can’t dispel, heal, hard CC, Rez. It’s just terrible RN.
@FlunkyKong
@FlunkyKong 17 дней назад
There are now chapters
@Skrittlez
@Skrittlez 17 дней назад
Wow nice they listened lol
@nawdog187
@nawdog187 18 дней назад
I think your pretty accurate on this list considering I play em all lol, nice work , we appreciate very much for all you do .!!!!!
@AmaSeeker
@AmaSeeker 18 дней назад
Thank you~😄
@WolfsOcean
@WolfsOcean 18 дней назад
Good thing im switching to Holy Pally from Ret. The fact Ret is getting so much highlighting in all WW has my Nerf Senses tingling
@keithnowicki8241
@keithnowicki8241 3 дня назад
people will cry and they will get nerfed!
@yeye1600
@yeye1600 18 дней назад
Putting Havoc with it's huge problems currently in A tier is crazy to me. One hero talent tree does 1/3 of the other, adds nothing visually even though that's supposedly a big part of it. The other (aldrachi reaver) just adds more buffs/ debuffs and even soul fragment micro management to a already insanely min-max micromanage spec. It's way too much. Feels like both trees were designed to go with vengeance and fuck havoc as always.
@user-tw1dt4no7f
@user-tw1dt4no7f 18 дней назад
90% of everyones issue with the hero talents for DH is visuals. it still plays and does as much if not more than most classes. The only issue i see with the hero talents is havoc and souls.
@yeye1600
@yeye1600 17 дней назад
@@user-tw1dt4no7f my main issue was concerning the design of the hero talents and the philosophy behind their design. To me it shows that they either don't care enough or actively ignore feedback about havoc, seeing as they added even more micromanagement
@FritzSchober
@FritzSchober 18 дней назад
Less buttons is good, not bad!
@Manylimes
@Manylimes 14 дней назад
Completely agree
@spamstabber
@spamstabber 16 дней назад
Making ret even better is pretty wild
@kalamari8243
@kalamari8243 16 дней назад
as someone who has every spec besides healers on both sides (alliance and horde), I am extremely excited for hero talents. now I can mix up my gamestyles and being (a little bit) more "unique" with each char and not having e.g. 2 completely identical WW monks on each side!
@Davew5183
@Davew5183 18 дней назад
Glad I can continue playing my main (Paladin)2005-now and still going
@jamessun6207
@jamessun6207 18 дней назад
Rogues are in a sad spot
@bigbramble
@bigbramble 18 дней назад
They are just so ridiculously complicated to play with so many finishers and cooldowns to manage.
@magdabrownis265
@magdabrownis265 18 дней назад
@@bigbramble nah they’re not bad
@user-il3wd2oz2s
@user-il3wd2oz2s 18 дней назад
Good
@richiepipes8960
@richiepipes8960 18 дней назад
​@@magdabrownis265yea they are. Zero reason to play one over monk, pally, fury warr, or surv hunter.
@metalmach1ne748
@metalmach1ne748 18 дней назад
Assa feels good and has strongest st
@InfestationPony
@InfestationPony 18 дней назад
God I wish Rider of the Apocalypse can be as good as it sounds, so far all I'm seeing are randomness slapped upon randomness, looks like Sanlayn for me. Plus those extra haste buff can be quite useful at the start of this expansion.
@Metaphix
@Metaphix 18 дней назад
hopefully they change the colossus arms warrior ability to not lock you in place, maybe just lower movement speed by like 70%
@matthewfincham243
@matthewfincham243 18 дней назад
Love your vids mate
@ignan1923
@ignan1923 18 дней назад
Stuck between elemental, survival and windwalker, my 3 mains.
@gregoryshinn9805
@gregoryshinn9805 18 дней назад
Thanks for the video
@caemalin
@caemalin 18 дней назад
Time markers needed in your vids man 🙌
@Soldruid
@Soldruid 17 дней назад
There are time stamps
@caemalin
@caemalin 17 дней назад
Not when I wrote this comment, thanks though.
@lukasgaming82
@lukasgaming82 18 дней назад
Hey Kelani!
@Uncle19
@Uncle19 18 дней назад
With the changes to alts, I feel like my main isn’t massively important. Which is a good thing.
@Jagr00nage
@Jagr00nage 16 дней назад
I've mained WW since Legion and that doesn't look like it's changing at all but I'm super excited to play mountain thane because it just looks cool.
@attinger117
@attinger117 15 дней назад
WW has had massive changes to the talent tree…. And they have two distinct hero talent playstyles.
@Jagr00nage
@Jagr00nage 15 дней назад
@@attinger117 Yea finally its gotten a bit stale but still a fun spec. Excited to try out different variations.
@Baloshz
@Baloshz 18 дней назад
thx for making this great video
@Mickemera
@Mickemera 5 дней назад
Holy Shit, Ret Paladin on top? Cant wait for a patch that tune that to about middle or lower just before release.
@avstzn
@avstzn 18 дней назад
every hero talent tree should provide visual changes to some degree, it’s ridiculous that some specs like voidweaver shadow priest get so much stuff meanwhile fate bound rogues get to flip a coin ….
@Lrn2hmp
@Lrn2hmp 18 дней назад
What is that damage text?
@Deezy_0
@Deezy_0 18 дней назад
Ret pally feels sooooo gooood 🤤🤤
@Wolfemother3441
@Wolfemother3441 18 дней назад
DK POWER!
@wooptidoo3525
@wooptidoo3525 16 дней назад
I'm considering returning for this expansion launch but i am worried about balance. Have they done anything to nerf augmentation and its toxic meta? I'm not gonna bother if I feel like i'm an idiot for not playing around that spec.
@user-zr2el2uv7v
@user-zr2el2uv7v 3 дня назад
Is this a tier list for m+ or overall because I saw u put ret p in S but on the logs from raid they are doing just ok
@xanscobe
@xanscobe 18 дней назад
As warrior main for years. This was the not a good introduction for casuals - yes they retuned rage and the waiting for auto attacks aka smoother gameplay but i rather had worded that just as "smoother gameplay" or similar. In my opinion the big change was that cleave replaces Whirlwind! This and the changes to talents + cleave cooldown + rage costs massively alters the aoe / cleave rotation esp with sweeping strikes on top. this feels way different than in DF: esp with -1 button (WW) and Storm of Swords redesign and removal of Hurricane - in the old AoE giga combo.
@xanscobe
@xanscobe 18 дней назад
For all 3 hero talents and fury I can agree and the ratings and input you gave. maybe mentioning removal of Annihilator+Slam+Storm of Swords build for fury. and sadly warrior is still lacking 1 real utility Button for M+.
@boxicool
@boxicool 12 дней назад
so on arms there will be now shity whirlwind and cleave is in basic or talent choice? i hvnt played for long time
@xanscobe
@xanscobe 12 дней назад
@@boxicool whelp read the talents. Cleave replaces ww
@povved161
@povved161 18 дней назад
SV is my Main alt for years. Might as well make him to my Main in TWW 😍
@nerdrooted
@nerdrooted 18 дней назад
I've been mulling over a change from BM hunter for TWW, and my two choices I'd arrived at were either Ret Paladin or WW Monk 😂 WW Monk looks like (atm anyway) like it'll do more damage, but Ret does have more defensives, and will likely be a better pick for progression raiding due to that. I'm waiting for pre-patch to see how the changes play out for my actual live characters, even if we won't have access to hero talents just yet.
@guilleherreros3518
@guilleherreros3518 18 дней назад
Who cares about damage are you a profesional player?
@nerdrooted
@nerdrooted 18 дней назад
@@guilleherreros3518 I'm a Cutting Edge mythic raider who would like to guarantee their raid spot as much as possible, so yes, damage matters.
@Cyl444444
@Cyl444444 12 дней назад
The current unholy is was more simple than it's past versions thankfully . No where as simple as frost you just press obliterate and frost strike 90% of the time ; but once you understand the opening rotation and how your talents play off of it , it becomes very satisfying to play both in dungeons and raiding . Few different builds as well to tinker with compared to some specs really only having a single cookie cutter build .
@fishraposo7192
@fishraposo7192 16 дней назад
This video got me to become a member, can't wait for the tier list of the other roles!
@dualSpec1
@dualSpec1 18 дней назад
I was thinking about ret our ww monk was hard to pick but when playing delves on beta it was allot easier wirh a ret. And since delves will be important ret to go and ww monk for alt for the first season
@Jo-Jo8vs
@Jo-Jo8vs 16 дней назад
If Blood DK becomes the new meta tank in m+, I would rate DH also as S-Tier, just for the dmg buff.
@Defocus_
@Defocus_ 18 дней назад
put survival at S tier, looks about right after that
@KuhntaSmash
@KuhntaSmash 17 дней назад
Yeah, after his description of his understanding of Pack Leader, it was obvious he didn't understand the new survival mechanics.
@zuralani1
@zuralani1 18 дней назад
Havoc in A tier? Most DHs that have played it hate aldrachi reaver's playstyle immensly. Because of the difference in damage profiles of the two hero trees, it is unlikely fel-scarred will ever be tuned to compete with aldrachi in raid without talent design changes.
@Avo7977
@Avo7977 18 дней назад
How are they in PvP, though
@alexvarai424
@alexvarai424 18 дней назад
@@Avo7977 nobody cares or plays pvp in wow anymore lol
@richiepipes8960
@richiepipes8960 18 дней назад
Dude idk how he gave Havoc an A....its awful to play rn.
@pawned4617
@pawned4617 18 дней назад
@@Avo7977 Even in PvP, fel-scarred is garbage, aldrachi reaver out performs in Raid, M+ and PvP. DH really needs some major reworking before live
@Primal_Echo
@Primal_Echo 18 дней назад
​@@alexvarai424I almost exclusively play PvP...
@Arkael1110
@Arkael1110 16 дней назад
I'm a bit confused about the death knight section. You said nothing but good things about frost death knight ended by saying it's some of the best hero talents in the game and then placed it in the middle of a tier......
@Tylas100
@Tylas100 18 дней назад
Nice unholy is save 😂😘
@thekajunpredator
@thekajunpredator 17 дней назад
As a huge enhancement fan. I'm glad we aren't using ice strike/eleblast/frost shock/primordial wave😁
@fishtacos007
@fishtacos007 18 дней назад
I main shaman but haven't played since SL. IDK what to play
@Denstoremonkey
@Denstoremonkey 18 дней назад
POG
@lovelylych7643
@lovelylych7643 18 дней назад
Now please do ranged classes :)
@leaflotus6726
@leaflotus6726 7 дней назад
Survival hero choice is AOE/wildfire? Sentinal. Singletarget/mongoose? Pack leader. Pack leader is really cool and its singlw target is insane on single target (and chakrams are back) :D
@joshuagarner1654
@joshuagarner1654 18 дней назад
Ret paladin, always ret paladin
@Ak3R0
@Ak3R0 17 дней назад
Looks like that owl poops on enemies from above...
@AStreakingHoBo
@AStreakingHoBo 3 дня назад
For shamans this needs to be updated
@afau1non
@afau1non 18 дней назад
unholy and probably frost aswell have the same problem pallys had before rework forced to play in consecration, bad game design if you want the game to be dynamic and very rng in pugs
@pmdinaz
@pmdinaz 11 дней назад
Looks like I'll stick with Arms on my warrior (never liked fury) and Assassination on my rogue. I'm not chasing dps for frustration.
@kevinwilson9589
@kevinwilson9589 18 дней назад
Why the constant changes to specs? It's almost like Bliz dosen't want a person to learn how to play their character well, because if you put in the time to learn, it gets changed.
@littlebill872
@littlebill872 5 дней назад
is this tier list just melee classes ranked on doing normal/heroic dungeons? because ret ain't definitely S rank. spec got neutered and brought down a few notches.
@navistormrage5057
@navistormrage5057 14 дней назад
Is there rdps t list
@zeveroarerules
@zeveroarerules 18 дней назад
Druid main, forever. Since vanilla.
@Miavydrina
@Miavydrina 15 дней назад
Been playing Unholy DK for 16 years. LET'S FUCKIN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@thatonedudea
@thatonedudea 18 дней назад
What does blizzard have against assassination rogues?!
@Parawietje
@Parawietje 18 дней назад
They hate assa im sure.
@prismoo9769
@prismoo9769 15 дней назад
Is already hard for me as a assasination Rogue to do a good amount of dmg and now you are telling me they are going to Nerf my kings bane
@Graavigala85
@Graavigala85 18 дней назад
just as always: which class has the best gear wins and plate wearers seem to have the best looking world loot sets so its easy to pick
@Ethan_Coble
@Ethan_Coble 18 дней назад
As a WW main, I honestly am super grateful that they decided to rework one of the less popular specs and they really listened to the WW community about what changes they wanted to see. Feels good to finally get some love and common sense changes that were desperately needed for the last few expansions. Blizz really knocked it outa the park with the class and spec tree!
@Svanir.80
@Svanir.80 18 дней назад
Seeing Havoc, Frost DK, and Survival in the A tier warms my heart. Been my favorite characters to play for ages now
@coroflame8098
@coroflame8098 18 дней назад
Havoc shouldn't be in A tier tho. The tuning and damage profiles of the hero talents mean that aldrachi reaver is miles ahead of fel scarred and everyone hates how it play. Kelani gave it an A because he liked it in dragonflight but in the state its in it will feel god awful to play
@Thagias
@Thagias 13 дней назад
Enhancement might be removed or rebranded to tank spec at this point...
@T.R.75
@T.R.75 18 дней назад
why dont i feel like a Hero with the majority of these Hero Talents? good vid though, good info.
@Ciansatlas
@Ciansatlas 18 дней назад
God dang now the frost dk moved on the list for TWW
@Daisudori
@Daisudori 18 дней назад
Can someone recommend me some low APM specs for War Within? Still Destro and MM for that?
@bobstoner415
@bobstoner415 18 дней назад
Sounds about right. Both are very fun to play because they are simple but powerful so you can focus more on the game. I recommend both.
@BeastMastery
@BeastMastery 18 дней назад
Havoc, Fury and all rogue specs. Trust me. Don't trust me!
@rick5787
@rick5787 18 дней назад
Dev evoker is the lowest APM in the game. But its because you have 'charged' abilities.
@Daisudori
@Daisudori 18 дней назад
@@BeastMastery Assa used to be the low APM melee. But its not very enjoyable spec. Same for Arms war, altho imo thats abit better to play, I keep using it for alt. Am, bored on hunter so will try the Warlock and Evoker out I guess.
@sleeper789
@sleeper789 18 дней назад
Devastation Evoker is the lowest APM in the game at around 35 in single target. Not surprising since it revolves around a 3 second channel ability. It's still really fun and I mained it for most of DF. All three Warlock specs and MM are around 45-50.
@mikebroessler6
@mikebroessler6 12 дней назад
Please pick what you like dont go by these. BEST OVERALL is what you make it. All dps healers and tanks are viable even at the highest end. PLEASEEEEEEE pick what you find the most fun
@markuslc1888
@markuslc1888 18 дней назад
currently the dps difference between the weakest and strongest specs are 800k dps, so ranking such a tuning mess is kinda pointless
@fredspekvet5875
@fredspekvet5875 18 дней назад
No its not. we're not looking just at dps or how it performs, we're looking at all the factors. does it play well. does the rotation feel good. are the new talent trees any good.. etc etc. there is more in the world than just dps, you know.
@markuslc1888
@markuslc1888 18 дней назад
@@fredspekvet5875 dude if a spec does tank dmg it's not relevant, if it plays well or not, because you won't be able to raid or do m+, that's how WoW is, if the tuning is somewhat right than the playstyle comes into consideration etc. if a dps spec does 0 dmg it's moreless dead, you know?
@keithb6344
@keithb6344 18 дней назад
@@markuslc1888balance tuning hasn’t happened yet. So how much damage a class does right now doesn’t matter.
@fredspekvet5875
@fredspekvet5875 18 дней назад
@@markuslc1888 No. because not everyone does instances. or does pvp. there's loads of people where pure dps doesnt mean a damned thing
@markuslc1888
@markuslc1888 18 дней назад
@@keithb6344 true it's just curious how off it is
@dariuswhitefang2993
@dariuswhitefang2993 18 дней назад
as a legion havoc enjoyer DF saison 3+ was awesome. But the new hero talent ruins almost everything. It works great if you can keep it up but you almost everytime trying to do so. so the potentical highest dps dosent feel well at all at the moment. depending on the needs of my group i would consider frost DK if melees are needed.
@ShadowsOfThePast
@ShadowsOfThePast 18 дней назад
Judging by this video it seems that there are many specs that suffer from the excessive amounts of procs/buffs/short CD's that you need to track to be optimal.. I think they should make those specs a bit more simple.. NOT braindead but slightly less stuff so that you don't need to mash the keyboard like your life depends on it.
@prismoo9769
@prismoo9769 15 дней назад
Rogue here when you said mash your keyboard i feel that
@cooller8888
@cooller8888 16 дней назад
I haven't played since mid-showlands and as a Rogue main who enjoys assa and sub I'm disappointed and I think I'm gonna wait till season 2 at least if I come back, which is unlikely.
@GdzieJestNemo
@GdzieJestNemo 18 дней назад
i'm so split between Shaman and DK right now
@snhazzy3325
@snhazzy3325 17 дней назад
Go shaman
@Zerashadow
@Zerashadow 11 дней назад
my 2 options were Enh shaman or Affli lock, was locked in on shaman but it seems lock will be great as well, but shaman is so enjoyable to play
@rathburn42
@rathburn42 4 дня назад
From what ive seen don't play enh shammy. I haven't heard many good things about it at all.
@GdzieJestNemo
@GdzieJestNemo 4 дня назад
@@rathburn42 people say it plays pretty much the same as in df - which means awesome. Changing it would suck
@rathburn42
@rathburn42 4 дня назад
@@GdzieJestNemo i mean its not used for anything in DF my man the class is in an awful place. Thats why its one of the least played specs in the game. You like what you like thought glade you enjoy it.
@Nightmase
@Nightmase 18 дней назад
Im kinda disappointed in the enhancer :( and were still waiting for shamans / paladins to be released for every race ....
@AustinMumford
@AustinMumford 18 дней назад
Shamans and paladins released for every race? What? How does that fit in lore?
@Nightmase
@Nightmase 17 дней назад
@@AustinMumford so you want to argue with lore but got tauren rouge ? Weird :D and btw there are already undead priests aswell as crusaders who use the light
@Zerashadow
@Zerashadow 11 дней назад
i would lowkey love to play Void Elf or Lightforged Shaman, but regular space-smurf will have to do for now.
@michaelkennielsen1422
@michaelkennielsen1422 18 дней назад
TLDR: When he says "Fluid" he means easy. And the ranks are based on how easy specs are to play
@The200Dragon
@The200Dragon 18 дней назад
I love the warriors Mountain Thane for fury. It makes me feel like Thor. Although it won't work mechanically very well I like the idea of wielding a 2 handed axe and a 1 handed hammer making me look like Thor from the Marvel movies wielding Stormbreaker and Mjolnir.
@theR1ch
@theR1ch 18 дней назад
Outlaw AoE frustrates me, so it's Assassination for me.
@FitMagic
@FitMagic 18 дней назад
THANK YOU for doing a tier list! I see so many content creators talking about how fun this class is or how cool that class is or whatnot, but knowing how they rank against one another in terms of actual power is important too!
@keithb6344
@keithb6344 18 дней назад
Power is irrelevant in beta. Numbers change. How a class plays is all that matters until the tuning pass after the patch launches.
@EternalAngel333
@EternalAngel333 18 дней назад
Wont bother with tierlists as expansion isnt fully out specs are getting changes left right and center making tierlists like this before its even out is kinda eh and should not really be looked at.
@Kronosbattlemaps
@Kronosbattlemaps 13 дней назад
Generally any class with a spec overhaul will be good if not broken and op. It's literally happened every single time.
@DoodleBobJ
@DoodleBobJ 18 дней назад
Really looking forward to DK playing both specs but probably mostly frost. The changes to the specs and rider of the apocalypse really elevate the spec. Finally some good mobility!
@Andy07777
@Andy07777 17 дней назад
Every class segment starts with "the spec has not changed much". I am not very confident about the expansion and if its even worth playing.
@ChemiiOneLegacy
@ChemiiOneLegacy 18 дней назад
Stuff like this is entertaining but that's really all anyone should take from it. Every single person told and video told me hunters would be bad in Dragonflight but because I liked playing Marksman especially I just went with it. Nearly all the predictions were incorrect and the first season of M+ I absolutely carried. Play what you enjoy first, the numbers will always be in flux.
@BeastMastery
@BeastMastery 18 дней назад
The best melee is to play ranged instead. Avoid the impossible to see aoe mess.
@Daisudori
@Daisudori 18 дней назад
BM hunter feels like a ranged melee if u still want that no cast style.
@KiaStout
@KiaStout 18 дней назад
​@Daisudori don't you mean survival hunter?
@Daisudori
@Daisudori 18 дней назад
@@KiaStout I dont know, I never played melee surv. I just mean BM feels like it cus everything is instant cast, like a melee.
@KiaStout
@KiaStout 18 дней назад
@Daisudori ah okay. The reason I said survival is that it's very ranged for a supposedly melee class with most of its abilities usable at about the same range as an evoker.
@BeastMastery
@BeastMastery 18 дней назад
@@KiaStout can't truly play surv as ranged as u miss out on the auto attacks :(
@wesleyvl8572
@wesleyvl8572 18 дней назад
Dk paldin monk are the best
@dgoodwin1122
@dgoodwin1122 17 дней назад
Where are all my Feral friends at? 😁
@Phane02
@Phane02 18 дней назад
Feral. Feral. Feral.
@JazzyGaming
@JazzyGaming 18 дней назад
They changed Skyfury for Shaman. It wouldve been a nice change but now its just kinda meh
@arzos2603
@arzos2603 7 часов назад
RIP Unholy DK after todays nerf
@sermerlin1
@sermerlin1 14 дней назад
I just wish WoW focused less on hack n slash and more on single target control/DPS. I just find it ridiculous how every class is equiped with almost AOE only abilities and setup to destroy pull of 10-15 enemies per pull (dungeons, raids etc). I'm probably if not definitely a minority here but I enjoyed so much more when instead of just pulling couple groups at once and slapping them all to death we CCed and focused target or 2 per pull of a group... and avoided smartly what we could. I just feel like now I'm playing diablo game (literally as I need to zoom all the way out and watch isometrically in order to see enemy AOEs and wtf is going on) in a WoW skin since we're just hacking and slashing. But I guess that's just me.
@einjhell
@einjhell 7 дней назад
i guess pally will have nerf again S class before launch haha
@elliotsimpson3591
@elliotsimpson3591 17 дней назад
TWW is still 2 months away, that's a LONG time for Blizzard to make changes and shake up whatever the meta of this video is!
@frankcastle9691
@frankcastle9691 17 дней назад
The horde win.
@TheMost4422
@TheMost4422 17 дней назад
There’s still almost 2 months before launch. If you are deciding mains rn based on power or playability, it’s a fools errand but you do you.
@JD-hc5rv
@JD-hc5rv 16 дней назад
It's definitely worth hearing how development is shaping up though. There's never been an expansion where all the specs are fully baked on release. It's definitely valueable to know which classes are feeling good and have fun new things to try, and which ones currently feel the same, and *especially* which ones feel unfinished. If I played hunter I'd definitely want to know my class is currently completely unfinished and shows no signs whatsoever of achieving any direction.
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