The Winnipeg Jets Have Set Their Price For Rutger McGroarty, And Are Happy To Wait To Get It

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A report out of Slovakia suggests that Winnipeg has denied the Montreal Canadiens a handful of similar offers for Rutger McGroarty. What were the Habs offering? Is this the baseline package we can expect the Jets to field? How far off was Montreal from having their package accepted? Was it really that low of an offer? What is the latest Winnipeg can go without having this situation resolved? Returning to our season expectations for our skaters, what will Winnipeg's blueline accomplish this season? Is it finally time for Morrissey to earn his first-ever Norris trophy?
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@savax1551 25 дней назад

from a habs fan, as much as McGroarty is an interesting player asking for an overpay does mean i'm glad our gm's did not make the deal

@viper29ca 25 дней назад

From what I have been hearing about his attitude, wanting guarantees for spot on the roster and playing time, Hughes needs to stay far away from this player. He's a nobody, and has done nothing to warrant making any demands

@mamagne800 25 дней назад

I agree, everything I hear about McGroarty is just speculation. This kid hasn't prove anything yet and the Jets are asking way too much. Jordan Harris has 131 NHL games under his belt with a differential of -5 with a bottom tier team like the Habs. Adding Mesar or the pick should be more than enough.

@Zwikster 25 дней назад

Chevy is always so patient and hopefully will get a nice return like he usually does

@BrianK49 25 дней назад

MAYBE - but when a player makes a public statement that he wants "OUT"....the less likely his team is going to receive even equal compensation in return on a trade basis (especially for an unproven player) - just a fact of such a matter

@LockedOnJetsNHL 25 дней назад

He has usually done well in situations where the team has had its back to the wall. We'll see what shakes out here!

@kenmacleod7225 25 дней назад

@@LockedOnJetsNHL He did well with PLD. This might be more of the same, but this time with a PLD 2.0 who hasn't even played an NHL game yet. He should get the Jets some solid assets, but probably not from Montreal. There are too many other options for the Habs top six at play elsewhere to take a chance on someone with an attitude that you are unsure of. The Jets could address this by giving any interested teams permission to talk to the kid.

@LockedOnJetsNHL 24 дня назад

Oh, the whole thing is that Rutger's camp has to okay the destination and confirm he'd sign with the team before the trade goes through. They're definitely doing that last part. No one is trading for him if they don't have a commitment to sign.

@BrianK49 24 дня назад

@@LockedOnJetsNHL - he sure did great getting rid of PLD - made out like a bandit on that one - have to assume LA would like to have that one back

@hockeyislife7686 24 дня назад

A prospect, roster and a pick isn’t good enough for a guy that has never touched an nhl game? Wtf winnipeg this guy ain’t mcdavid

@stockey 24 дня назад

They should take the Habs deal, it's a very good deal.

@vincentd.2284 24 дня назад

You are undervaluing Harris and Barron

@LockedOnJetsNHL 24 дня назад

Not particularly! Harris could be interesting, but they're both in the 5/6D range. Winnipeg already has better blueliners in their system. Mesar would be the most interesting piece there and he hasn't quite taken the step forward yet you'd be looking for.

@vincentd.2284 24 дня назад

@@LockedOnJetsNHL Harris is already a 5/6D. That is his 100% certified floor. Are you saying that this is also his ceiling? These are still prospects. Btw, Rutger's ceiling is a 2nd line forward. But his floor is somewhat tbd given the absence of any NHL play. Who says he doesn't end up a perpetual AHLer?

@LockedOnJetsNHL 24 дня назад

@@vincentd.2284 Harris is less of a prospect at this stage. He's 24. Barron technically could be considered a prospect, but starting to push it. Best case is one of them becomes a #4 but that might be a lot to ask for.

@vincentd.2284 24 дня назад

@@LockedOnJetsNHL Turned 24 last week. For a forward, your analysis would hold, but not for a D.

@kenmacleod7225 25 дней назад

Here's the the thing, though. The kid appears to be doing a pretty good job of trying to decrease his market value. Maybe Montreal can give him the power play time and top-six role he seems to think he should walk into after the trade. But not many teams other than Montreal are in that position...and perhaps not even Montreal at this stage of its rebuild. There may be a bigger and better deal out there. But there's also a reasonable chance that the return for the Jets might end up being less than what the Habs offered here.

@LockedOnJetsNHL 25 дней назад

It's definitely a delicate balancing act. One thing that's been true for a lot of the guys who've forced their way out of Winnipeg is that the grass wasn't always green on the other side either. Nothing like some drama to carry on through a quiet off-season!

@jpdemontigny 24 дня назад

If this is what the Habs offered then I am glad that it did not work out. McGroarty isn't worth that much. The kids sounds a lot of trouble. Even stars don't demand guarantees like he is asking. In the NHL you have to earn your minutes, even veterans.

@jasonprice9823 25 дней назад

If McGroarty has told all teams he wants gaurenteed NHL roster spot. Hes the fool in all of this. Everyone wants their prospects to earn their spots. Exactly why Chicago filled up on July 1. Even when rebuidling, theyre not just handing out roster spots.

@jpdemontigny 24 дня назад

Right. Any NHL player has to earn his minutes.

@gavinmarion91 23 дня назад

I feel like he'd be a really good fit in Detroit. His whole trackable hockey career has been in Michigan.. To Detroit - Rutger Mcgroarty // To Winnipeg - Joe Veleno, Jakub Rychlovský, Anton Johansson, 2025 3rd Feel like it would be pretty fair, Rychlovsky was czech league top scorer at 22. Anton was on WJC team for sweden and had 4p in 7 SHL playoffs games 6'4 skates well, solid defensively and is only 20. Veleno young solid bottom 6 player. Could make the third a second. But witn Mcgroarty basically forcing his way out I feel like that pretty fair value..

@Veopoz 25 дней назад

I don't think another team will offer better than a Roster D a first and a prospect. Unless you go 1 for 1 for a Zegras or Necas

@LockedOnJetsNHL 25 дней назад

I'd actually prefer Zegras/Necas over the package. I think both accomplish more than most of what was offered from Montreal's side.

@mamagne800 25 дней назад

@@LockedOnJetsNHL Are you fvcking serious. We are talking about a player who has proven shit so far in the NHL vs 2 well established players like Zegras and Necas rofl. You Jets fans are really delulus. Keep dreaming that will never happened.

@viper29ca 24 дня назад

Zegras or Necas, both established players in the league, straight up for a 20yr that has ZERO NHL time, and thinks he can dictate how much ice time and where on the team he can play? Good luck with that. Habs offered too much for him IMHO, not worth the package they offered. The package they offered wouldn't get a trade done for either Zegras or Necas, neither of those 2 teams are going to trade them straight up 1 for 1 for McGroarty.

@bangbangyoureaboolean1324 23 дня назад

No GM would trade a Zegras or Necas for someone who hasn't played a game. It's laughable that you think this would be even close to a fair trade. Zegras can be a 70 point player, already has a 65 point season under his belt.

@jordanstreib3898 25 дней назад

The rumored Habs trade was good but not a game changer Mesar isn't better then Barlow,Chibrikov,Lucius,or Lambert so what's his role on jets future bottom 6? Barron is 22 not bad but spend over 20gpAHL most likely on a good team bottom pair guy. And a 1st. I rather take a 2nd or 1st + a higher rated prospect who has top 4 dman or top 6 potential. Or in case Montreal Dach. Similar what Philly did Gauthier getting back a top 4 dman Drysdale. And pick I liked Savoie and Geekie before they were moved. Prospects like Columbus-Mateychuk,Svozil Chicago- Reichel,Dach Minnesota-CarsonLambos

@mamagne800 25 дней назад

That's on one side. What about McGroarty? Try convincing me that McGgroarty is worth more than that and I suggest you to bring your lunch. Winnipeg makes me laugh. It's like they are trying to trade McDavid here. By the way as a little reminder, McGroarty hasn't played one single NHL game yet while Harris has played 131 games under his belt with a -5 differential with a bottom tier team so we are talking about a player who has proven himself vs a maybe speculation player like McGroarty with a lot of red flags.

@jordanstreib3898 24 дня назад

@@mamagne800 True look at his teamates. Even though he will say he was Captain and outscored them. Or Is on par. Nazar,Fantilli,Casey,Brindley,Hughes,Howard,Smith,Leonard,Cooley,Snuggerud,Gauthier,Lucius,Hutson,Blake. Every team thinks their top prospect is Gretzky or Orr. Montreal thinks Guhle/Slavkovsky/Hutson Mintyukov,Faber,Michkov,Demidov ect How is winnipeg asking for alot when at draft was reported were willing take the 13th pick? I think they just want equal value. Philadelphia got a 2nd+Drysdale a proven NHLer and Gauthier hasn't played 1 NHL game either. I he's not a top prospect in our organization every team has guys he was #2 now he's dropped Lambert at development camp,AHL all star/Perfetti/Salmonsson/Heinola/Barlow/even Chibrikov are valued higher its not like we need him. 1.Lambert will get NHL time 2nd line with Ehlers/Perfetti. 2.Chibrikov will be bottom 6 3. Heinola will be on team and Salmonsson will get look but AHL time. He can sit/trade and if teams are inquiring up to them if they want him or not. Other teams don't pay attention lower prospects but Lucius,Freij,Zhilkin,Julien,Wagner,Milic,Divincentiis,Rashevsky have value too. Just like Roy,Kapanen,Kidney,Engstrom,Tuch,Mesar,Beck,Fowler.

@domenicoverdone928 25 дней назад

McGroarty has not proven himself yet in the NHL . Mesar is a first round pick , Barron is a first round pick, plus giving Florida first round pick. Winnipeg is pushing there luck !

@bryanferrerorgt5974 25 дней назад

Mcgroarty has higher value than all 3 😅

@chadkameka3582 25 дней назад

@@bryanferrerorgt5974 Rutger and Mesar have comparable stats from last year. So asking for a lottery pick + a yound D on top is ambitious.

@vincentd.2284 24 дня назад

@@bryanferrerorgt5974 Not really.

@viper29ca 24 дня назад

@@bryanferrerorgt5974 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

@sebsaavysworld8469 24 дня назад

Montreal is not trading that much for this idiot and clearly he is because he has never played a game in the NHL and he is already whining about wanting a trade because he wants to pick when and where he plays.

@chadkameka3582 25 дней назад

I'm pretty sure that the Habs were right to offer a "modest" offer for Dubois. You saw how it turned out for him in LA right? Winnipeg drafted Rutger 12th and he hasn't played in the NHL. Now he is demanding top 6 minutes and is asking for a trade out. What has this guy done to increase his value??

@marksydor3108 25 дней назад

Harrison: Which of the rumored teams interested in McGroarty would you like to see the Jet's do a deal with, and what would you like the specific return to be? Is there no one that Montreal has that interests you for McGroarty, or does Montreal indeed have players you like, but it's just Montreal isn't willing to part with them?

@LockedOnJetsNHL 25 дней назад

Montreal really doesn't have much of interest to me. I'd be very curious to know what a Rutger swap with CBJ for a Jiricek or Kent looks like.

@michaelwhiter4308 24 дня назад

I doubt this apparent trade pkg is even legit

@paulgiardetti1579 25 дней назад

Wow , he wasn’t a top ten pick, he chooses were he goes, nobody is going to be as dumb as the kings,

@LockedOnJetsNHL 24 дня назад

On that last part, you'd think haha, but NHL teams have been shown to make some veryyyy questionable decisions! Maybe the Kings still want to do another deal LOL.

@alexh2065 24 дня назад

This is the perfect example of fans overvaluing their team's players/prospects. I see some Habs fans saying this package would be overpay for RM, but if the CGY/FLA pick ends up being FLA picks and so probably late first then IMO it wouldn't be overpaying. But saying that Jets should get a pick around 14-15 + B prospect + B player for RM, who was picked 14 overall 2 years ago and as for as I understand isn't now someone who most people think should have gone significantly higher and who asked to be traded which means his value actually decreased. Thinking that the Jets should get such a huge return is insane. Just look at what Buffalo got for Matt Savoie, who was picked higher than RM the same year and didn't ask to be traded, sure Buffalo probably should've gotten more but still I don't see why RM should bring more.

@fredharris9413 24 дня назад

The Habs are overpaying only because they drafted too heavy for the back end and didn't balance with forwards . They clearly want to unload excess assets without taking too much flack from the fans .. A first round pick and two solid NHL D's for a disgruntled forward without NHL experience is crazy ... Frankly I don't believe Habs put that much on the table !

@Iselas181 22 дня назад

Jordan Harris is a solid two way defenseman who just turned 24, he is not flashy but almost always makes the right play, he will probably top out at a 3 or 4 dman with a floor of 5 or 6. Barron has higher upside but plays a completely different game, he is more of a high risk high reward type player and tends to have defensive gaffs. Mesar has some interesting potential, he has struggled with the NA ice but has shown flashes of a top 6 forward. So the Jets turned down a right now 5 or 6 Dman with potential for 3 or 4, a potential top 6 forward who has shown flashes of being very good, and a 20 to 32 first round draft pick. All for a forward who is a diva, has shown nothing to warrant this type of return and doesn't really fit the culture in montreal. Personally I am happy this trade did not happen.

@JeanPierreLevac 25 дней назад

Harris, Mesar and, a first round pick is already an overpay and it's fine by me to get the trade done since we can afford to right now, but that Winnipeg refuses this makes me want to tell them to take a hike. They are being way too greedy for a player that doesn't even want to be there.

@BrianK49 25 дней назад

Agree - AND, when a player makes a public statement that he wants "OUT"....the less likely his team is going to receive even equal compensation in return on a trade basis

@randylavoy6196 20 дней назад

Hey ...wake up ..McG ty ...has NEVER PLAYED even 1 NHL GAME ..!! TOTAL B.S. to ask more than what the Habs offered ..!! Keep asking ...but no G.M.is THAT stupid ..!!

@dougmcfadzean7982 25 дней назад

Top10 and roster player Rutger is ours for 2 yeats

@sebsaavysworld8469 24 дня назад

Just another bs rumor. 3 first round picks for a guy that's done nothing at a pro level. Both those players are former 1st and another first on top of that tells you right away that it's bs. Why would Montreal way over pay for some guy that's never played a game in the NHL and he is already whining about wanting a trade cause he wants to pick when and where he will play.

@davidsine1222 24 дня назад

No way KH offered the rumoured package....lol

@RicardoMedeiroscourtier 24 дня назад

Habs should avoid McGroarty drafted #14 in 2022 because of his attitude. Owen Beck also drafted in 2022 #33 is already superior to McGroarty, who is overrated. Habs have a similar player in Joshua Roy 6'0'', 190lbs, drafted in 2021 shoots left also and is garanteed great 3rd line or good 2nd line left wing and has bigger potential than McGroarty and Roy loves Mtl. I would play Mesar in Laval next season in top6 and trade him for 2025 2nd round pick. I would trade Jordan Harris for 2nd or 3rd round pick 2025. I would trade both of those 2nd picks for a 1st round pick 2025. Since Habs won't make won't make the playoffs next season 24-25, if Armia and Dvorak are health, I would trade them for 2nd or 3rd round picks in 2025. And then I would trade also trade both of these picks for 1 pick in 1st round if possible. Can you just imagine if Habs would have 4 first round picks in 2025? Habs would be set for the a very long time with great talent...

@galkanftw 25 дней назад

So mr.Lee says a first round pick is modest for a player who wants out anyway ...lol.

@LockedOnJetsNHL 25 дней назад

That pick is basically going to be a very high second rounder in equivalent value. Rutger may be looking to leave, but important to remember that multiple teams are interested in him and likely want to sort this out before they have to compete for a signature in free agency. Also, Jets would have no real interest at all in Guhle + Mesar/Barron. If it was Logan Stanley, on the other hand... ;)

@galkanftw 25 дней назад

I feel like many managers the smart ones auto decline original offers.Personally as a habs fan I would NEVER give up a first round pick let other dumb managers do it and ruin their team.Hughes could should actually offer imo Guhle he is not THAT good but many thin k he is and maybe the Jets would accept it and even throw in Mesar or barron because we have far too many defensemen.

@viper29ca 24 дня назад

So with Guhle, there would be a 1st coming back with Rutger? Because he is not worth Guhle 1 for 1. Give you head a shake.

@BrianK49 25 дней назад

Could this be the wrong headline? Hmmm - you sure it wasn't the Jets that were 'denied'? Is it more likely that Kent Hughes is refusing to overpay for a player who has not played or proven himself in one (1) single game at the professional level - AND at that, may be making unreasonable demands as a completely unproven player? T H I S is INTERESTING: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NYvB-4cmezo.html

@brad7806 23 дня назад

Hope the jets don't trade him..don't want him on the habs..his stats are not that great what's the big deal. And demanding a NHL spot with significant ice time..don't want to earn anything..seems like a PLD attitude..and a family like lindros..good riddance.lets see in a couple years when he's humbled and not even close to a NHL star ⭐...

@nathanadrian7797 25 дней назад

A prospect, a roster and a pick for a prospect? Is this supposed to be comedy? There is no guarantee this guy will ever be a roster player, and any team would be foolish to offer more than a prospect "or" a pick!

@Guffman30 25 дней назад

Such a primitive, brainless take. Not all prospects are equal to each other. McGroarty was a 14th OA that has increased his value post-draft. In your simple mind, you think flipping a prospect, regardless of prospect value, is considered fair? 😂

@BrianK49 25 дней назад

@@Guffman30 - McGroarty appears to be a GOOD prospect - but only a PROSPECT who may or may not become a top-6 NHL player

@Guffman30 25 дней назад

@@BrianK49 Yes, and… ?

@nathanadrian7797 24 дня назад

@@Guffman30 He's trying to point out the obvious to you so that you slowly realize that you have the mental capacity of a dead mule, without hurting your feelings.

@Guffman30 24 дня назад

@@nathanadrian7797 Almost no prospect is guaranteed to be a top 6 player. Cool, whatever. A good forward prospect is obviously more likely than an average or poor prospect to be successful in the NHL. Great, we’re all stating the obvious. The only stupid comment was your original one, suggesting that a prospect should only warrant offering another prospect or draft pick for. That doesn’t make any sense given prospects vary in quality. So sit down and learn to logic.

@darrenc8455 25 дней назад

Habs can guarantee a middle 6 spot to McGroarty, so it makes sense for the player. Jets should pull the trigger if they can push for a better d prospect like Mailloux + late 1st round.If Jets let McGroarty back to school, it is over, they get nothing.

@reign2204 25 дней назад

The jets own him for 2 years…. He can go to school and get traded whenever still. They have 2 off seasons.

@darrenc8455 25 дней назад

@@reign2204 not true. if he goes back to school this year, he stays with Michigan until graduation, then sign as free agent with any team. there is no chance he signs with jets for 3 years when he can be free agent in 1 year. michigan will pay him more than his elc salary. also he can graduate by the end of next summer if he just takes easy classes.

@gordm3527 25 дней назад

@@darrenc8455but won’t the Jets get some form of compensation? What’s stopping every draft pick who doesn’t like a city from doing this?

@habs25in08 25 дней назад

@@gordm3527it’s the risk of drafting US college players. They can wait and choose their destination.

@habs25in08 25 дней назад

As a Habs fan, i am on the fence for this guy. He’s not a 1st liner, i see his ceiling as a 2nd line and floor as a 4th liner. Wary of an overpay as he has a similar profile to Ryan Poehling, maybe a higher hockey IQ

@viper29ca 25 дней назад

Lol, Barron or Harris, Mesar and a 1st for a 20yr old that hasn't even played a game in the NHL? And they turned it down? Yeah, good luck getting a better deal. Frankly, with the players attitude wanting guarantees in playing time, spot on the roster, etc, etc. Sorry, but what have you done that gives you an inkling that you can make those kind of demands? Hughes should stay as far away from this as he can