WE are the FIRST KNIFE!!!! WE are the purpose that carved EDGING INTO BEING!!!! Your edging will be remembered..... within the SHADOW of the BLACK MEAT!!!!!
I don't think bungie could have made a better finale. Keeping the death of The Witness out of the raid to ensure that EVERYONE gets that victory feeling is some stellar decision-making, and every time I listen to Stronger Together I get all huffy and emotional. I can't think of a single more triumphant, impressive moment in gaming so far this year.
They did the best of both worlds. They made the raid feel special and impactful, while still letting everyone else experience the actual ending. Zavala even said it in the cutscene, it was one fireteam’s tireless effort that gave everyone else this 1-in-a-million chance.
It truly did feel like the end. My fear was that it was going to end feeling incomplete and not like this was the end of this saga. They did it perfectly. Even the dialogue is 10/10 you can hear the witnesses desperation. The raid has it still somewhat confident but the mission feels like pure desperation
They learned from the mistake they made with Oryx, it was one of the main issues allot of people had with the dlc, not being able to kill him because its raid only
For a villain like the witness that has been built up for 10 years, killing it in the raid would have felt a little anticlimactic since it would feel the same as Oryx. The fact that we had to go for a desperate suicide attempt to injure it, to the 19 Hour slog to separate it from the travellers light, to this last stand with the entire coalition by our side just felt right. Only way it coud've ended.
one thing i love about the witness is that it was wounded in the first confrontation, ascended and escaped. then its hold was broken, the endgame level confrontation was something i loved, i woke up to the tweet saying the witness was defeated and that all of sol was rallying for the last assualt. it was amazing. great way to let people fight the witness
@@tarmagain2771it’s also got 2 cannon meanings of “one fireteam entered the monolith to break the witnesses hold on the traveler” it can be referring to your fireteam or the worlds first whichever you want to believe
It’s just very triumphant from start to finish. This isn’t even a fight at this point. It’s just destroying the witness whist it’s extremely vulnerable. Because of the raid it can’t win here as long as it can’t escape. It’s the perfect ending
23:54 the leitmotif that plays here while you use your light against the witness is the same as the music that plays in the final cutscene of the destiny 1 campaign, where elsie tells you "all ends are beginnings". great callback
23:54 Breaks me every time. It’s interesting. Despite Destiny’s flaws, no other game has come close to making me feel such emotions. 9-10 years of experiences, positive and negative, culminating in one last moment where our ghost screams his heart out, allowing us to deliver a killing blow to the being(s) responsible for the Collapse, avenging ourselves, avenging Humanity and avenging all other worlds the Witness had eradicated. As we had spent 10 years hearing about its atrocities. Whatever experiences led us to this point, or whenever we began as players doesn’t matter. Because this is where we all converged. This is where we all fulfilled our Destiny.
It’s been a massive part of this expansion. In the verity encounter the witness is giving us a shape and the goal is to defy that shape and make your own to escape. It also seeks to chose everything’s fate but us killing it once again is defying that and making our own fate
@@grappier5636now caital knows what Zavala meant by we could turn her into a gun if we wanted too. (If you don’t know what I’m on about look up “Zavala excuse me”
That “WE. ARE. SALVATION!” Was just pure desperation. It knew we were about to land the killing blow and couldn’t understand how. Witness wasn’t a god but it saw itself above one
@@adamboy0559It’s doom was staying inside of the traveller after getting cut from the tree of silver wings, he was on enemy territory with every single species he had beef with in the front of him.
@@guiltyspark3434 it couldn’t. The whole point in exiscion was it was intercepted trying to escape then all of sol came through the portal which is the only way out. It was then forced to defend so it sent everything at us. The dread the shadow legion the taken the scorn everything it had control of. As soon as we were able to see it face to face again it was doomed. It couldn’t escape and had the enter of sol after its head on top of that some of its voices were betraying it and the traveler was now free from it. On top of this it was severely weakened due to barley surviving the Raid. So the WE. ARE. SALVATION. Was just it’s last attempt to try make us submit to it.
This entire fight wasn’t even about killing a God, it was about OWNING it. The Witness was already weakened from Iconoclast, we then separated from the Light in Salvation’s Edge, and now we’ve come back in Excision to quite literally cut it out of the universe for eternity. “Be seeing you.” -The Winnower
I wouldn’t say we weakened it in the final campaign mission. We lost. The witness was hurt tho which was the win we needed. We needed to know to could bleed. As soon as we did it ran. It’s at its most powerful but also most vulnerable in its monolith as for the first time this is us face to face with the witness. In the raid we only win due to the traveler helping us. In encounter 4 it saves 1 guardian to revive the rest. In the final encounter we gain “surging light” which is due to the traveler temporarily breaking free of the witness giving us a chance to hurt it. Exicion tho isn’t a fight. It’s hitting the final nails in the coffin for the witness. As you can see it’s extremely weakened and desperate. It’s trapped with the whole of Sol coming for it. This wasn’t the all or nothing that was the raid. This mission is killing it before it can recover. I hope if we do eventually fight the Winnower it’s even more of a process to kill it. 2 missions and a raid won’t fit something of its level
@@adamboy0559 I think that The Winnower is too much of a risk to fight. It’s the source of the Darkness after all, so that might mean that we wouldn’t be able to use any Stasis or Strand abilities afterwards.
@@Hedron1027 yeah I have also got a feeling we can’t kill something of that level. Can’t have light without dark. Tho I hope it sends something equally as dangerous as the witness next. This time it won’t be so focused on the final shape like the witness was. One of the witnesses biggest weaknesses was its determination to achieve it. During the raid encounter it doesn’t even try fight back till we prevent its final shape. It seems to be tunnel visioned on only enacting it only focusing on us after we stop it and its weak point is exposed. Tho the witness at this point is having to hold us back whist also keeping the traveler trapped whist we are also hurting it via its arms and chest. Perhaps we can kill the winnower but I’m doing so we end the game that’s always been referred to? That could be the goal of the next saga to end the game of the gardener and the winnower
25:55 "What was made, can be unmade! Guardian... I know what to do. Channel the Traveller's Light through me. I'm ready." "AAAAAAAAAGH!" "We.... I-I don't.... understand..."
It’s perfect as well. It’s all triumphant from start to finish. This isn’t a fight. It’s ending the thing that’s caused everything so far. There was no winning for the witness in this mission. It was trapped with the entire of Sol coming for it whist it’s extremely weakened. Along with all this even some of the voices within it were trying to be freed from it.
Bro this track had me tearing up the whole fight. It was the best and worst moment for me. The best mission I’ve ever done but also the end of the story that I wish could continue.
The Gardener has finally found a collective of Souls that have read Dylan Thomas' "Do Not Go Gently into That Good Night" and took it to heart, for we raged... RAGED against the Dying of the Light!
I didn't know the witness was hard locked to 3-phases at first, and because most of my team kept dying to his attacks, I honestly wondered what would've happened if we destroyed all the statues before we got to final stand, lmao.
Still love that every theme is used in stronger together; the witch queens, the guardian theme, neomunas strength motif and even a more violin and brass foccused version of the guardian theme for the fallen and cabal. Musical masterpiece.
If it bleeds, we can kill it. This saying has always been proven true, even to wannabe Gods like the Witness. We wounded it in the campaign, we weakened it in the raid... And now in this 12 fireteam mission... We finished it.
15:30 this part wrecked me, I really don't know what else to say about this ending, there were so many emotions, and this relief in the music was simply sensational, one of the best missions and best soundtrack that Bungie has ever created, this idea of putting the final boss of the raid as a playable mission for 12 people it was brilliant, it managed to make all players feel the emotion of being in a raid, you feel part of the game, you are part of the game
By far the best music of this dlc and my new favorite destiny sound track of all time i wish this track was in the finale fight of the raid thou instead of what we got
It wouldn't make sense though. The reason unmade isn't triumphant is because Salvation's Edge isn't about killing the witness. It's simply about stopping the final shape. The constant "chugging" in the background along with the constant oppressive strings help convey this notion of a desperate attempt to stop time running out on the universe. Excision is when the guardian finally has the advantage on the witness hence why it's so triumphant
I just really wish they didn't change the pre-dps part in the OST. There's something about the tone it immediately sets as you get boots on the ground.
We 12 stand defiant in your presence we will not be bound by your final shape your perfect stillness we will fly free, free with both powers of light and darkness for the fundamental forces on our backs, and if you want stillness, so badly then by all means, we 12 will give you stillness
Please can we get a mix of Cusp of Finality where the good bit repeats on a round a few times, it’s so good but feels like it gets cut off a little too quick
WE are the FIRST KNIFE!!!! WE are the purpose that carved EDGING INTO BEING!!!! Your edging will be remembered..... within the SHADOW of the BLACK MEAT!!!!!
My music playlist looking at this half hour long track like I look at a burger I can barely wrap my jaw around. Is it too big? Perhaps. Is it delicious and going in there anyway? Quite possibly, yes. (Seriously though is there a version of just the last 10 mins of this video with all the high action stitched together? Cause that would be perfect.)
It’s hearing “untold legends” start to play and overtake the dark ominous theme that was the witness’ at 24:10 that drives me wild like you can feel that this was a victory of massive proportions as we begin to not only push this thing back but destroy it
It’s amazing how it is already, but I really wish they tied ‘make your own fate’ to a threshold on the witness’s health for the raid as well as excision. Similar to the Fatalis fight in monster Hunter world. So when the witness got below a certain amount of health the full song would play in the background as a way of encouraging the players to push forward. The classic destiny damage phase music timing is still fine tho
Its not appropriate thematically. Final encounter is racing against time, which I'm betting the reason you write this is because you never pay attention. Ever noticed it? The sound of the strings literally urging you to be quick. The entire Raid is written in a minor key, including when you are triumphing a boss. Its going to be jarring to the listener if they'd immediately add it without a subtle key change. I'm also betting you suck at music theory. Excision is still considered part of the Raid, the intro to this would be the one where we stare him down again. Its written in a minor key, until we decide to damage him, bearing in mind its using its relative minor key. It works in Monster Hunter its because of the key in which the encounter was written in. There is a section where a male choir is heard in this (listen to it and you'll hear how depressing the tone is). Which is deceptively covered by the strings. That is all.
@@itsharibonph it’s also not thematically appropriate for you to get so mad at a completely harmless comment my brotha🤣. Spent too much time learning music theory and not enough on actually talking to real people👀.
Thoughts in making a shorter version of this track? Just with the high action pieces put together, i love this entire track but my car rides dont go for 30mins 😭
Might be a silly request to ask for a mix of the first part of Excision? I know it's basically just Stronger, Together, but I think it's arranged differently than the official version?
Ik Stronger, Together has 3 different versions, a percussion only for first phase, and the two versions here not sure how to get them. might have to rip it.
