The More You Talked, the more I felt like CRYING. FREEDOM, to me, is the ULTIMATE PRIZE. I feel like WE need to be FREE. DON'T like the feeling of feeling Trapped in One Place.
I feel like Crying; This is the BESTEST IDEA EVER!!! People Should be FREE to move Around, I feel like We Are too CONTROLLED, and NEED more freedom to Come and Go as We please; I am SO emotional right now!! Thanks for this information!!
Kristin, you practically said it: the passport is a system of imprisonment. Plumia is a good idea, but I don’t think it will be allowed to work. We will see. Thanks for the info.
The passport is a system of protection. It allows democratic nations to filter individuals who don't share the same values and could endanger the local population. And before someone mentions race, it's not about that, it's about culture. Democracy needs constant protection against intolerant voices, and although it might sound paradoxical, tolerance requires not giving intolerance a voice, otherwise intolerant groups will crush a tolerant society, as has happened so many times in history. It's happening right now in countries like Sweden and France. Narco gangs from foreign countries have created literal "no-go" neighbourhoods, women are being r4ped, the police can't act because they're afraid of being called racists, and locals don't feel safe anymore. Result: when the left-wing refuses to hear its citizens, rejects acknowledging the hard truth and doesn't act as it should, the right-wing emerges in an extreme version promising to fix that problem. And I say this as a liberal.
Don’t underestimate the impact of the continuing tanking of the global birth rate- countries will be *competing* to attract skilled workers, creatives and immigrants.
Sovereign debt and expensive social systems has countries doing crazy things right now. Thanks to Obama, US now taxes citizens on revenue even when they are not resident in the U.S. He was afraid of everyone retiring out of border if they raised capital gains tax, and now they are talking about taxing assets, and California is already taxing 'leaving'.
Will Plumia have the ability to retrieve one of its 'citizens' when the citizen is taken hostage? Did Australia send a warship up the Thames to save Assange?
Sounds almost like a World Economic Forum idea. "Forget governments, let's still restrict people but through companies!". Almost like Clauss Schwabb made that internet country. Horrible.
I have a US passport so I can get to most of the countries I want to visit easily. My girlfriend has a Philippines Passport that is very weak outside of SE Asia. An example is she cannot get a visa to visit the US because she does not own property or even a car. It is very much a class system at this point so unless you are financially well off as a Philippines citizen you are discriminated against.
Yes it’s such a shame that good people who just want to travel have so many barriers to overcome. Hopefully this Border Pass can give people more opportunities to travel easier
@@ekoydakoykoy This is based on consulting with a travel agent that would have benefited from booking the trip. I’m sure there are exceptions to this and it seems you may be one of the lucky ones
@@papadougpapadougsadventures no im not lucky i just applied and i dont listen to any travel agent telling me you wont get a visa because of this and that only the embassy will tell me, though it would cost money but travel is costly to begin with
@@ekoydakoykoy Also it looks like you have a history of visiting other countries and of course returning. I do believe it makes a difference that you are male.
While I love the idea, there is no way rich countries will make it easy for people from developing countries to get such a visa. Most Americans don't meet the criteria I had to meet to gain admission so something like this is likely to have the same barriers. There is just too high of an incentive for people from poor countries to immigrate to rich countries. Source: I am one of them!
Just wait till ASI comes online!. It will make earth just One Country. No Govt, no borders, no money, just you and ASI. It will bring to where you need to go. Need, not want. What you want, you may not qualify. ASI will control humanity!. There is no escaping.... 3 years to 5 years from now.
I can definitely see certain countries not wanting to participate. But it will be interesting to see how many unilateral agreements they are able to negotiate with countries to join the Nomad Border Pass. I’m looking forward to following these developments.
Rich countries understand people from developing countries with a good income don’t need rich countries. If you come from a developing country, but have a business or income that is on par with a rich country then, why would you be a risk when you can go anywhere and you have the mobility and the finances to travel? I’m a Canadian who lives in Colombia but know many Colombians with a lot of money and they can go pretty much where they want and get a visa for the US or any other country because they have the means to travel and won’t be dependent on another country. I’m telling my friends in Colombia with access starlink mini and a good business model and knowing English you can go where you want that’s why this worldwide digital Nomad type passport could work.
The nomad border pass seems like a good first step. I don't see why attractive countries that control their borders will be convinced to accept a passport that isn't backed by another country though.
@@TravelingwithKristinThey definitely need a form of quality assurance to assure nations that the person holding this digital passport actually fit certain criteria to make the digital passport holders appealing for wealthy nations to take in. Perhaps if someone got a bunch of education, certifications, or great job experience with high-earnings potential, along with basic background check, then this could be appealing to wealthy nations, like Singapore. They should also make it easier for business owners with a decent bit of revenue or potentially they invest in the digital passport company a certain amount like you would for getting citizenship by investment somewhere, then this way you have a digital passport that would have a way to make money (from business owners and investors) yet guarantee great quality humans hold these passports and not lame or bad people (the hardest part of offering a digital passport that they'll have to overcome). I am not so sure they should offer this to refugees or people seeking asylum unless they fit the other criteria I mentioned, since it'll already be so hard to do quality assurance to convince wealthy nations to accept the digital passport.
The main difference and discrimination is between rich and poor, regardless of the nation they belong to. Poor and rich people have more in common with poor and rich people from another country than with the citizens from their own country who are at a different wealth level
As a South African I need to earn 1 million a year to qualify, that's near impossible. You didn't discuss the fact that there are many hoops to jump through before you even qualify to apply.
@mahfuzulhasan3108 Sore...if you can afford it. Google Plumia - to get this pass, you'll have to earn a minimum of US$50,000/year. I'll do the math for you - that's a minimum of over US$4,150/month. I'm a US citizen with a US passport, living in a lower-cost country. I live OK, but I have no rights here. I'm here legally, but I'm just a legal alien. I make well less than HALF of that. If you can manage US$4,166+ per month, good on ya...but if you could do that, you probably wouldn't need this.
Give visa free access to Afghanistan/Pakistan/india citizens and so many others to the US, Europe and see what happens... There is a reason certain country's citizens need visas.
“makes it a lot easier to control the movement of people” - funny turn of phrase, as if people’s movement NEED to be controlled as opposed to people having the freedom to, or indeed the right to move around the planet they are born onto.
Nomad Border Pass is a great idea. Unfortunately the most important information is missing on the landing page .. namely which 10+ countries are/will be covered by the Nomad Border Pass
@@stevecochrane9531 When the narrator spends 30 minutes telling you why this is great without actually telling you what it does, *today*, then it's just marketing spin.
There’s no way they could let that list of 10 out now. It’s a very politically charged topic and if one country saw a rival on the list they won’t join. Countries that have already or plan to probably have certain limits like we stay on unless you let Israel on or we stay in unless you let the USA on etc. there would be a lot of special care about how and what info is released
I sympathize with your idealism about travel but unfortunately the trend is if anything going the other way, to more strict control of movement. In short: countries love free spending tourists but hate those who stay more than 3-6 months even if this aversion acts against their economic self interest. But I suppose we could conceivably see something like this for those in the global 0.1 %, the richest one thousandth of the global population.
So the actual Plumia passport is 8 years away (assuming everything goes as planned). I have so many questions and quite a few doubts. I just don't see Canada and the US or the EU openly allowing people from the global south to migrate north. The EU is even making Americans get visas starting next year.
Bro you can just get in a dingy boat and if you come from south, the EU will throw housing and pocket money at you. It's going on for nearly 10 years now....
@@valentinepowell2307 They aren't saying they are not allowed in. Telling them they have to get a visa gives the border security time to make sure the applicant is a safe person to be in their country. Seems smart to me.
There were passports or similar functioning documents since before medieval times. The name itself comes from the Italian 'passa porto,' to pass the harbor. Harbors were open to anyone back then, but you needed a pass to go beyond the city gates. The 1920 Paris conference was basically a convention to establish the present booklet form, not the need for one. I don't think it will gain much momentum past a few isolated countries. Can't imagine the Schengen area accepting it with all its many intricate cross-country agreements. A cute idea, but wholly impracticable. Whoes embassy are you going to go to if you need assistance, or worse, if you get into legal trouble in a foreign land?
I pretty much agree this is naive, but...I still hope they pull something off that makes it easier to travel and work remotely. Skeptical as I am, I'm glad they are taking a stab at things. The nomad health insurance is worth looking into.
@@infocyde2024 They probably should abandon the 'digital country and passport' idea and instead look towards establishing a universal, or widely accepted, Digital Nomad Visa. You'd still need a valid passport, but you would only have to apply once at a portal for all countries subscribed to it. I imagine this will be more work to arrange, but I would think this route might have a higher chance of succeeding in the long run. But, then again, what the hell do I know about inter-country relations and what it takes to implement something like that? Hell, the UN have issues relating to who can sit next to another at a dinner function for Pete's sake.
Time will tell! It’s certainly a forward-thinking idea. I don’t think the passport is intended to replace your original passport, but it would be an option for a second passport.
Thanks Kristin for this informative and helpful video. I think it’s safe to say that citizens of the 5 Eye countries are the most affected by intrusive surveillance. Laws are becoming more draconian, the cost of living is out of reach for the average citizen. Moreover, privacy is becoming increasingly scarce. All the more reason to live outside the 5 eye countries.
I’ve actually been thinking this for awhile like why do we need to be separated like this, wish it was easier to move around and meet other types of people and places how awesome! Can’t wait to learn more! Thanks for posting!
Yes hopefully this will make it easier for regular people to travel more! I feel bad for my friends from Kenya, Vietnam, and any country where they can’t travel freely and have to wait months for a tourist visa sometimes.
My sister and I were speaking of being “Planetary Citizens” back in the ‘70s. I hope this idea comes to fruition some day. If the capitalist in liberal democracies desire it, the bureaucrats will follow.
I actually was watching a geography related RU-vid channel that was trying to determine how many countries there are and the case of unofficial countries came up. One of the ones listed was a digital country, which got me thinking, about starting one of my own and what that would take? This is fascinating and very appealing.
Throughout history, there have always been restrictions on travel. For example, in the Middle Ages, travel was often restricted by religious and political authorities. In the 19th century, travel was restricted by passport controls and immigration laws. It was not until the mid-20th century that the ability to travel freely began to increase.
This is fascinating...and encouraging for younger generations. We oldies loved to travel but had home bases throughout our lives..mainly because of work/family structures. Half of me loves the freedom offered; part of me fears a disconnect of close, human interaction. I won't see it...but my caution re:human connection remains. Great video!
Financial institutions have first taken control of corrupt officials, then entire countries. It's not about race, it's about money. What it's been about for the last 100+ years, money has been the god of the corrupt who then have coerced others into serving their god of finance
How do I feel about the concept of nation states? The concept of democracy would be impossible without them. And the concept of democracy is linked to culture. Like it or not but as humans we find it easier to establish rapport with people from our own culture than cultures that are dissimilar. Similar physical features and native language also play a big role in this aspect. That being said digital nomadism might end up being a culture and a set of common values which in turn can lead to tribes organizing themselves into something new without neccesarily even needing a nation state. One thing I wonder about is how Plumia will scan visa applicants? Their brand will suffer if it turns out their services are used by criminals and terrorists.
Great insights! Thank you for sharing. Modern-day society isn't possible without the organization and collaboration of people on a mass scale, but we should also keep improving these systems. I'm sure they will also have high standards for who can apply for the pass (and future passport).
@@TravelingwithKristin Private security firms can probably do a decent job as far as background checks go. But they don’t work for free so that’s an additional cost to slap on top of immigration lawyers etc.
Taxes, taxes, taxes. The U.S. has reduced citizens to cash cows. This is why I’m preparing to return abroad. Can’t escape the Feds, but I can escape state and local taxes.
This sounds like an excellent choice for full-time sailors (original digital nomads) with regular/guaranteed incomes. This may be a workaround for the Schengen Zone. One question that comes to mind is where do you seek assistance when needed, as in an Embassy?
I think it's an interesting concept and long overdue. In addition to digital nomads, many of us retirees have consistent income but few ties to our home country and could live anywhere. And not only Americans, but Canadians, Australians and retirees from other countries too. It's a growing market that presents a huge opportunity for companies to design new products and services to meet specific needs - from travel/medical insurance to borderless passports, accommodations and more.
As a US citizen I personally don’t have a need for any of this at the moment, but if it can work for others with weaker passports I’m all for it. That said, with their long term goal of being able to issue passports through an online country, I really don’t see that happening. There are international laws and criteria regarding what can and cannot be considered a state (country) and under the current system an internet state is far from it, so I don’t foresee many countries accepting these passports. You can look at the nation of “sealand” who does issue passports to citizens, but it isn’t recognized anywhere because they are not an actual state.
Good insights, Maddie. I hope that this solution will help more people worldwide. Creating a legitimate passport will be challenging, but if anyone can do it, the team at SafetyWing can :)
Thumbs up for the Principality of Sealand mention! The history of Sealand gives plenty of background as to why micronations are rarely tolerated or indulged. And for those who believe in the nobility of the concept, there is always someone who will come along and ruin it for them, like the absurd plan to operate an offshore micronation on a cruise ship off the coast of Panama, described amusingly in "The disastrous voyage of Satoshi, the world’s first cryptocurrency cruise ship".
No borders. I could see a further surge to Western counties until their systems collapse. It's happening now. It does make other nations in the long run more attractive. Is that the idea?
As a retiring citizen of a country where about half of likely voters will go with the utterly mindless, lying-cheating-thieving 🙀grabbing felon … My greatest frustration is the Schengen Zone. Like an English narrow boat with no fixed mooring, I’d like to cruise European waterways in a continuous-cruising mode & cycle around within a reasonable radius of the boat, then move the boat. The Rhine, for example, could take several months to a year or more of slowly moving upstream to the headwaters while cycling in the Netherlands, Belgium, France & Germany along the way. Doing it in 3 months would be an unfulfilling hustle. The good news, Switzerland is _not_ a Schengen Signatory &, assuming the right time of year, there’s plenty of riding to do there so I suppose you could do one side of the river going & the other side coming. Getting through France from the Channel to the Med or vice versa in 90 days would also be quite the hustle, but at least if you go south to north you can do the next 90 days in the British Isles. A return run through could get you to Africa, Turkey, or one of the Balkan States, but no stopping in Spain or Italy, etc. I’m told that there are potential work-arounds, but none are as simple & red-tape free as just getting out of the way & allowing lawful activities that do no harm. The current Schengen Agreement says that if I do 90 days spending down retirement checks in one country, 28 more don’t want their cut - not for another 90 days, anyway. Seems kinda stupid.
Plumia sounds to me like an easy way to get easy money from people who have no clue about traveling and the ways of how countries manage to deal with foreign citizens. This is nothing else but a trial to become visa agent for as much people as possible, it has nothing to do with any kind of real citizenship. I cannot imagine that any country would allow citizens from a fantasy world to come in, even if you'll call yourself something like that everybody still has to have citizenship from a real country. And finally only this real citizenship determines whether you are allowed to come in or stay away, and under which conditions you are allowed to come. Whether you do your visa applications yourself or let it handle by an agent or any fantasy service in the internet, doesn't matter. No country or club of countries like the Schengen countries would give up their right to allow or refuse passage.
Very interesting and exciting times. I do think this will be the way society evolves, but also a more localised community focus where digital nomads are able to better integrate into the local communities, contribute to the infrastructure they're using and potentially be given property and voting rights without having to become nationalised. We'll have to wait and see what the future holds!
Wow! Yours is one of the most professional and informative videos on any subject I've seen. On top of that, the depth of how you contextualized the topic of this video has expanded my horizon of what is possible to pursue in this strange reality we find ourselves in. Subscribed! Thank you.
As always, thank you for this video Kristin. These people are smart and thinking like that gets people to think outside the box, so this could bring a whole other thing to life. Very interested to see what follows as digital is the future and many countries are starting to see that. BTW still looking adorable, have a great week Kristin, Luke.
I'm a Montréal baby-boomer. Most boomers I know are still free-spirits and really don't fit in the 'evil boomers who get blamed for everything' box that's happening right now. At any rate, I agree with this: "These people are smart and thinking like that gets people to think outside the box, so this could bring a whole other thing to life. Very interested to see what follows as digital is the future and many countries are starting to see that.". It's very exciting.
There are a few issues with this idea (which, in theory, I like). Firstly, nation states will need to recognize the legitimacy of this "Internet Country". If they are not willing to accept passports from a corporate entity, it simply won't work. Also, just as with ordinary passports, there is a financial barrier for impoverished people like myself. If you haven't got the funds to pay the various fees, you aren't going anywhere. Can SafetyWing make it more accessible to the poor than an ordinary passport? If not, the freedom to move around globally remains the privilege of the wealthy few.
I don't think this will have an impact on where people pay taxes. So far, the proposed plan is for a Nomad Border Pass that allows people to stay up to 90 days in certain countries. Typically >180 days of residency are needed to change a tax base, but of course it depends on the country.
The idea is great! Take into consideration those opponent's of russia's regime who left their country and cannot return there for fear of imprisonment and in many countries of the world they are discriminated in their right to get a visa, a bank account and a residence. Russian authorities are taking their passports leaving them almost last chance to avoid persecution. There are people from other countries who need a similar doc too!
at its heart this seems like a beautiful idea but in the end it will benefit only those that already have the freedom (money) to move whereever they want. this requirement alone :"Work in the digital, technology, innovation or knowledge sectors, Minimum annual income of $50,000 USD, Global health or travel insurance with coverage of $250,000 USD" will make it impossible to acquire even for most "first world" citizens. a annual income of 50k puts you in the 5%-15% top earners GLOBALLY. You are not doing a bad thing, but dont dress it up in the costume of "helping those that lost the "birth lottery"".
I sent United Nations a suggestion to create a UN citizen free to travel anywhere as long as you pay a 15% tax to the host country. It should cost 100000 dollar, and that would include lifetime health insurance.
When ir comes to humans moving around it has and will be a never ending process. I foresee a future where Africa will receive millions of people from everywhere.
Very interesting!!! WOW! What a great piece of news! I have been amazed in the past few years how new technologies have been able to open up borders to a whole different level. I was actually saying recently how it has become easier now to be less "rooted" to a country from an administrative stand point and that only nationality (and fiscality) is still connecting us to a country (for those fortunate enough to hold a passport from a developed country). Thank you very much for this good video!
That's always my worst fear about these type of things! At any time it just might be a prototype of something they're planning to roll out for everyone with rules and laws that are far from profitable for the people!
With so many cultural and religious differences, among other things a one world government might be a long way off, but I could see continental nations popping up. Europe is already close to that with the Euro.
@@daniellemack5648 EU government is already failing miserably and the Euro currency sounded good in theory but I'm afraid it's also very dependent on the USD, so let's see the coming 6 months how that's going to work out!
Have you taken a look at the world service authority? With the world citizen passport? They've been around for decades. And occasionally accepted on a case by case basis. That should really be encouraged and petitioned for more governments to accept.
Good Information Kristin!! I have to ponder on these ideas before I put my foot in my mouth. But ultimately, I agree the passport system has made traveling restrictive and it shouldn't be like that.
70.000 years ago all current anatomically modern humans lived together in a village in east Africa. Maybe in some time, given new technologies it can become one village again.
"Currently there are 10 countries included with many more planned" - after searching the web for the duration of the video I couldn't find any of the 10 countries listed...
No "Internet Country" will be recognized by real countries in our lifetime. Real countries like Vanuatu will offer passports in exchange for money, but Plumia is not recognized as a country by any other country. If it ever gets recognized by another country as a country, then great. Otherwise, Plumia is just a service like TSA precheck.
Many thanks you for this very informative video! I would most certainly apply to get a passport from Plumia. What I find most interesting about this concept is that it's a great testing ground for innovative technologies that could redefine the way our democratic societies operate. Some issues for which a digital testing ground like Lumia could be useful: - How to interconnect digitally all citizens without compromising their privacy? - How to improve our collaborative decision making processes to make all sorts of democratic initiatives flourish at the local level? - How to create the conditions for healthy political debates with a trusted fact checking system and countless other useful features? - Etc...
The concept of travelling around the world with that kind of passport should be available only to people with high achievements and impeccable reputation. See the EU for example - huge masses of Muslims have been allowed to enter the borders of many countries and the more of them there are, the more dangerous living in that country has became. So despite what far leftists may think, no we are no equal, some people are wild and dangerous and should never be allowed to travel freely.
same racism same shit: To apply for the Nomad Border Pass, you must meet the following requirements: Work in the digital, technology, innovation or knowledge sectors Minimum annual income of $50,000 USD Global health or travel insurance with coverage of $250,000 USD
I wrote this comment before I got to the end of the video. Then I got to where their visa will cost $500. $500 isn’t much money if you are well off, but for the vast majority of humans, it’s an impossible sum. This makes the project one for rich people that are increasingly frustrated by the long slow lockdown of the planet, who feel they should be exempt from the rules, instead of fighting the good fight to stop the insanity for EVERYONE.
I have been pushing that very hard same sentiment for decades, humans are the only species today that cannot travel their own planet freely. We are basically prisoners of are nationalities. Even as an American myself I cannot stay longer than three months any country.
I think it’s a good idea in theory, but it’s hard for me to see most countries, especially the wealthiest ones, accepting entrance on a digital county’s passport.
Feeling very fortunate - I’ve got multiple citizenships that give me above average travel mobility across the world. Excited to hear about the Nomad Border Pass. As a nation, I’m pretty sure Estonia went digital around a decade ago - you could get (and still can) become an online resident with digital access to Estonian Government services …at least for business and entrepreneurial services.
While the concept of Plumia as a digital nation is intriguing and certainly taps into the growing trend of digital nomadism, there are several concerns that need to be addressed. First and foremost, the lack of formal agreements with national governments raises questions about the practical viability of the Nomad Border Pass. Without official recognition, it's unclear how Plumia can facilitate the kind of global mobility it promises. Additionally, the idea of creating a digital passport that would be accepted globally is highly ambitious, but it's important to consider the significant legal and diplomatic challenges involved in getting such a concept accepted by sovereign states, particularly those within the Schengen Area or other regions with strict immigration controls.While I appreciate the innovation and forward-thinking vision behind Plumia, I believe it's crucial for potential users and supporters to be aware of these challenges and to approach the project with cautious optimism. Transparency about the current limitations and realistic timelines for achieving such goals would go a long way in building trust and credibility.
@2:50 Um...regardless of how you want to see it, it isn't racism. One's personal reality is always truth. Being restricted by your country and their passport isn't a race issue. Most every country on the planet is mixed races, religions, cultures (less some more fundamental or extreme Islamic countries). AND travel restrictions / passport acceptance by other nations is not based on race. It is based on the country, their beliefs, how they are ran, their relations with other nations, etc. To just say race was just ridiculous. Of all the channels that I would not have thought would throw identity politics out there. Oy.
Interesting idea but will not be allowed. Political ideology, Terrorists, taxation, and security will pose insurmountable obstacles to it's implementation. If this become a reality then almost every person in a "poor country" would try to leave for a "rich country" and thereby cause both countries to collapse.
Nationalism is the same as racism except it puts a country at its center, so not a superior race, but a superior people. Most people think "they are the great people of...", like their country were somehow something exceptional and completely different from the rest of the world. The exceptionalism of many countries (explicitly in the case of the US, Japan, Sweden, China... And implicitly for other countries, like France, the UK, and in many aspects my country, Italy) goes one step further. Most people in these countries say or think they're the greatest people on Earth. If you're the greatest, others are inferior. That's the same of racism. And front there you can justify whatever you want, like going to war (which is usually not said aloud but actually means killing people) just "to advance your country's interests in the area", repelling words often said aloud, with no shame at all)
@@RiccardoGabarriniKazeatari I think different groups of people have been thinking they are superior to other groups of people as long as people have been on this earth. For example, the tribes of early humans such as Neanderthals when they saw other tribes, probably thought they’re better than those tribes.
@@RiccardoGabarriniKazeatari I am a german living in Thailand. May I vote here for the PM as a non thai ? = NO If I would have the thai citizenship, as a white european guy, I would be allowed to vote here. Thats the difference between racism and nationalism. When I ttavel they dont care my race, they care my documents. Now we have the EU Football Championchip running. You see many races in one National Team. Please let me know what is wrong with my thinking, thank you.
@@ojbkk not being able to vote as a foreigner it's not about nationalism, it's a law. It was drafted by people who thought it was in the public interest, and it was a choice of their representatives. You can act in the interest of the people of your country without being a nationalist. Many countries give the right to vote to resident foreigners. On the other hand Nationalism is a sentiment, a feeling your country is above all others, well, above everything else, actually, it's even above the people who live in that country (who should, for instance, be ready to give their lives for their great country! Please notice it's not "for their family", nor "for their country's people", (words matters!), to defend them from a threat, for instance, no, it's "ready to die for their country". If you put it this way it doesn't matter if they are the attackers, and they're not defending anyone, just making rich a*hole even richer. You can't invade a country to defend all the people in your life, it doesn't make sense, but it does if you're invading a country while you tell yourself "you're fighting for you country"). Hope it helps you grasp the difference
@@enjoystraveling Absolutely, the idea of nationalism could not have been born before the concept of "nation", but nationalism at its core is just a manifestation of the feeling "your group" is superior. If one identifies "his group" with a country, it's nationalism, with a race, with a race you get racism, with one sex, sexism, and so on. Then again nationalism is a bit more complex. For instance, there's the idea the people of a country should be ready to die for their country. This comes from the idea that the country is above everything else, other countries for sure, but it also comes before the lives of its people. With nationalism the country becomes an idea: you don't have to be ready to die to protect your family, friends... The people of your country. You have to "die for your country". They're two different concepts. The wording matters. And if the country it's not its people than what is it? A place? Should I die for a place? That's ridiculous. No, a "nation" is an idea that reunites land, people, culture, and, not explicitly but in practice, the people in power. That's what a person should be ready to die for in the view of a nationalist (misguided or not)
Why would restrictive countries, such as the US, want to recognize Plumia? I had the idea of "virtual nations" some years back, and Plumia is on the money, in theory. But somehow I don't see countries like the US or any of the EU countries, of Russia, China, etc. recognizing a Plumia PassPort. At least, not in my lifetime.
Time will tell, but the more countries that accept it, the more will likely join the program, just as we saw with the widespread adoption of Digital Nomad Visas ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FH_f7MBCh9Y.html
The nation state concept is like a customized prison system for ethic groups. Makes you narrow minded . I envy our great great great grand parents. They were truly free spirits and explorers
It's a great idea, and I think something similar will eventually take hold, but it may be a long wait. In terms of the product that's due to be offered in 2025, a $50K minimum annual income requirement is pretty steep. That's likely to disqualify a lot of the folks from countries with weak passports who could theoretically benefit from something like this. It's higher than the digital nomad or retirement visa rules for a significant number of countries.
Have you seen the conditions for this Nomad Passport? It's, again, a product for the richer part of the world. Even if it's open to everyone, not everyone have a min anual income of 50k, even in the western world. So, I would say, that ultimately, the only thing this passport does, is giving more mobility to rich kids living in countries with a poor passport rank.
You are very naive to say that those lower countries do not wield a heavier burden on tourism. You really don't care about the repercussions of allowing certain types of people into countries.
Far from world’s first, have you heard of the World Service Authority? It was started by a guy who renounced his US citizenship at the end of the Second World War, and they were issuing passports at least in the 1990s. Last time I checked, his son was still continuing the operation. Furthermore, aside from micronations, which have been happening at least since the 1970s, I remember a completely digitally encrypted cyber-nation experiment that was happening sometime around the beginning of this millennium. Issuing passports would have been furthest from their minds, however, as they would have ignored “meatspace” (physical world) governments’ claims to sovereignty.
