As a Greek i totally disagree… this isn’t what we want or need….. Greek governments don’t look after us, they only care for tourism. I’m afraid one day Greek people will be dying on the streets and tourists will be having a great time in Greek beaches and sights 😢
Athens is a wonderful city. There are not many cities on earth to have the combination of 1. City at the sea 2. Surrounded by mountains 3. having the closest national park of Europe to the city 4. having atleast 10 incredible islands closeby within 1 hour of ferry, such as Hydra and Spetses from one Island group, or Syros and other islands from the Cyclades group 5. Athens has a history till 11th millenium BCE (13.000 years ago) and has been continuously inhabited since 5th millenium BCE, 7000 years, making it the oldest capital in Europe. Lastly. Athens has many mountain ranges for mountain paradise within 1 hours away like Parnassos, Mount Giona, Mount Vardousia, Dirfi mountain, mountains in North Peloponnese Athens is truly amazing for many more reasons! Athens has not only many wonderful districts and incredible history, but while Athens is surrounded by mountains and sea, Athens has also multiple hills inside the city which are the most perfect viewing points with in-cre-dible sunsets and sunrises of the city with the sea, the islands, the mountains and historical sites all around. Athens is truly incredible.
All that does not change the fact that Athens is an ugly city that offers a substandard quality of life. Thessaloniki while not super-beautiful either, it is still far more beautiful than Athens and is much superior in all metrics. 1. It is on the sea 2. Surrounded by mountains + has a view over Mt. Olympus - Olympus is one hour drive but then some of Greece's most beautiful mountains are all around 3. Has in it as well as around some of Greece's most important archeological sites 4. Closest island is Thasos but Thessaloniki is just next to Chalkidiki which is easily the best spot on the planet in terms of lovely beaches combining beaches and forested mountains 5. It is the only Greek city within the current state of Greece that existed continuously throughout history as a city, including having been for centuries' Europe's 2nd biggest city after Constantinople 6. It offers a less stressful life 7. It has Greece's biggest university thus gathers the country's youth 8. It has in % less immigrants than Athens I would love for both Thessaloniki and Athens to had been more beautiful as cities, but they are not, they are just covered by cement blocks. And honestly I do not trust the Ellinikon project - usually such projects fail to capture the interest of people after initial commotion.
@@user-ex6nd8dq8w athens has plenty beautiful areas and it is in the eye of the beholder. Point is. The points I mentioned is what makes it special and nothing you can say about concrete that will change that Secondly. This is about Athens. Not Thessaloniki. My family has a house on the halkidiki side with the most perfrct view of the Mount Olympus and the sea in between. So. I know what you talk about. Thessaloniki is great. Because Halkidiki is 30 min away for beach paradise. Mount Olympus is a mountain paradise 1hour away. Edessa and Pozar is wonderful waterfalls and natural hotsprings. Lake Kerkini is a birding paradise surruunded by wonderful mountains and so forth. So. Thessaloniki is a paradise for these and many more reasons already. Nothing you can state about architecture that can change that fact. And secondly. The energy of Greek cities >>>>>>>>>> pretty much everything else in Europe. I have been everywhere in Europe, almost any city, and the vibrancy if Athens and Thessaloniki is just incredible. And lets not forget the food and bar scene. Thessaloniki has the most bars per capita in Europe. Also. the Acropolis is just something else. Whatever you say The views around towards the Acropolis is just divine and unique. I just came from Prague, bolzano and then Milano and none of these cities have such beauty and energy. Again. I repeat. What makes Athens special js the wonderful and wonderfully placed archaeological sites that no other city has. Secondly. You can be in Mount Dirfi, Mount Parnassus, And in North Peloponnese mountans in 1-1.5 hours. You habe mountains around Athens and the closest national park in Europe of any city. Then the possiblity to be in 10 different island worlds that are each their own paradise. All accessible within an hour from Athens. Athens has its own riviera and wonderful sites like temple of Poseidon etc. Athens has perfect hill views around of the city, surrounded by mountains, sea and islands. Again. This combination is magical and something special in Europe. And yes. Thessaloniki is exactly wonderful for these reasons too. If you include the fact that you hsve 1001 paradises just outside Thessaloniki, its just bizar. I just drove through the alps through Bolzano westwards for the most part of the Alps. Nothing impresses me more than the diversity of beauties Greece has to offer at any turn. Because Athens, like Thessaloniki are truly special for the qualities I mention. But Also Nafplion has this. Also Chania and Rethymnon. Also Ioannina as a couple other examples. In all these cities you have endless beauty a stone throw away around and may I say I love these cities for their beauty
@@Ptolemy336VV Don't get wrong my message. My main point is rather that both Thessaloniki and Athens are ideally situated and are having strong points not easily found in most other cities in Europe, however we managed to build them with ugly blocks of cement that ultimately make for ugly cities. And we did so tearing down the old neoclassical houses that were more tied to they country's traditions - to be noted, while the neoclassical was seen as "artificial" 19th century style, it was indeed developed after studying ancient/medieval architecture and thus it was organically tied with tradition, and was one of the most beautiful architectural styles worlwide. I would much like to see something different in Ellinikon, not a copy of Dubai. This is not what Athens should be about, even if that brings more money. It is not about the money.
@@user-ex6nd8dq8w I think Hellinikon is perfect. It's a glimpse of future Athens. A part of Athens being more futuristic. While also having the many neoclassical buildings elsewhere in the center of the city. It's a perfect blend of old and new. Something doesnt have to be only old, or only new. Athens is artistic in that way. Next. I don't agree with how ugly it is as you say. Center of Athens is scenic. Plaka, anafiotika, Psyrri, Kolonaki, Zappeion area, other areas, plenty areas wonderful. And the coastal Athens is also wonderful. I wouldn't say everything is wonderful and I do know specifically the type of architecture you are otherwise referring to, but this is found everywhere in Italy and other countries too. Rome in center is nice, and perfect city for walking. But go outside the center and the mass appartment blocks are exactly the same as in Greece. And besides. the Appartment blocks arent all bad. There are plenty areas with beautiful appartment blocks. The worst architectures in ALL cities in Europe are form 70s. And me living in the Netherlands this is extremely the same case. We just need to replace them. And it one day will. Look at all the wonderful real estate that are made in Halkidiki, islands, and so forth in the last 10 year. All wonderful homes. Wonderful designs. Wonderful stone and material combinations. I still wish to have a Cycladic style bathroom with combination of stones, and perhaps an area of mosaic like in those houses. gorgeous. Point is. I know what I am speaking of. And the very thing you mention is happening all across Europe. The onlythings that arent ugly are the architectures before 70-80s and the modern buildings. But ding ding ding. Here comes the kicker. Much of europe's population growths happeneed around the 60s,70s,80s leading to focus on mass and fast construction. Greece at that time wasn't consiously aware and neither did they have the money. Time is different now. Lastly. I worry more about a bill that is maybe being passed that allows for constructing buildings ON the coast. Now the limit is 30m away from the coast. while now other countryies have it at 150-300m away from the coast. But Greece is now removing last limits. Which would be incredibly foolish. The whole reason what makes Greeces coastline OBLITERATE that of Spain and Italy and so forth is because of the naturality of it's coastlines. 80% mountains that combine with and rising out of the sea in ways that are breathtaking. While spain has vastly less mountains at the coasts and in general, which lead to the destruction of their coastlines as they could easily build at the coast. Look at the mass constructions ruining their already less beautiful coastlines with such things.
@@Ptolemy336VV The neoclassicals in Athens, just like in Thessaloniki are sparsely left, one here, another there. What should had been the case is that if not all, then most of the city should be built on such a style. I am not hung up on neoclassical, but just any style with a basic sense of artistic consideration, not this vomit-inducing "modernist" style with which Greek cities were built, literally competing in ugliness the contemporary back then communist blocks. And once you delve into the world of architecture you will find out the communist link and why so many architects pushed for this ugliness - it was not done for "financial reasons" as people think. An artistic style such as neoclassical did not really cost so much more than their boxes. It was rather pushed by designs, already since design schools working on Bauhaus principles and we all know the ties of Bauhaus style to the Frankfrurt socialist school. The whole idea was to break tradition, break art, make ugly cities, transform pepole from humans to machines. Read what Le Corbusier was writing - himself designing ugly boxes "machines for living" as he described them, but then opting to live in a proper neoclassical home full of real art. Disgusting individual. These people should be put to death for the amount of crimes they did against humanity.
Greece needs to invest in its industry and decrease reliance on imports. This needs to be the economic priority. Lower construction costs exist already in the countryside. Better infrastructure, internet connectivity and high-speed rail transport should help connect the countryside and allow for a greater development of rural areas into industrial centers. Crimes like Tempi should never happen again.
Looks like DUBAI !! WHOS GONNA BE ABLE TO AFFORD ALL THIS LOLOLOLL ?? ULTRA RICH PLAY GROUND ! AND A CASINO TO RIPP MORE PEOPLE OFF ! WOW ! 😢 SAD ITS GOING TO RUIN THE CHARM OF ANCIENT GREECE NOT A GOOD IDEA sorry ! People in Greece a struggling to buy groceries and pay utilities which are sky high and they put this in there ??
The area is already connected with a metro line that will be in extended with a couple of metro stations, and already has a tram line that passes by the riviera all the way to the port of Piraeus
At the area of Ellinikon there are 5 tram, and 2 metro stations. Also the tram line will be extended to connect the seaside with the metro station of Argyroupoli in the north, So, no need for new infrastructure or metro lines. These, exist already 💙🙏🏻
There is a minor inaccuracy. Riviera tower will be purely residential. The casino and the hotel will be hosted in another skyscraper, which originally was supposed to look like the one in 0:52. That design has been rejected, but the current one is not shown in this video. 😀
The dust there is pretty epic. A lot of us don't have a mega yacht to cruise on over or mega bucks to spend on what you know will be super expensive place. Will they insist on hiring locals to work there? If not those bucks earned will leave the country big time.
I mean the city is quite dense so unless they tear up buildings, which they'll have to buy off first, I don't see any way they can achieve creating more parks. Our capital is just too full. Too many people live there, we gotta take them and move them somewhere else but that's not gonna be possible.
Athens was never green. It is ridiculous to expect Hyde park in Attica. I would need so much water and lower temperatures in the summer. where do Greeks get these silly notions? Just look as 19thc etchings and drawings: no trees.
The combination of limitless view to the sea and islands and of the amazing climate of Athens will undoubtedly make this place one of the best places to live in the planet. If only I was wealthy...😊
@@chryssanthistell Oχι για την Ελλαδα των πατο-Ζ-αιων , θα το κανε και ο Τσιπρας αλλα δεν προλαβε. Του πηρε λιγο παραπανω χρονο η οργανωση των εγκαινίων του μετρο της θεσσαλονίκης , γι 'αυτο !!! . :) Εχεις 2 ευρω να πας απο βδομαδα να ψηφισεις Κασσελακη η να σου δωσω Εγω συντροφε ? :)
The part in the finale about Ellinikon not being connected to the city's transit system is wrong. The airport is connected with a metro line in the northeast, build since the Olympic games actually (the red line's last station), a tram line in the beachside and bus lines at both sides.
@@perrygames12 I already visited it despite the project not being finished and its as simple as AMAZING!!!!! Theres the super nice Metropolitan Park which has some important areas built and its free access, some of the pictures of it are real right now. And theres a building with something like a tour to see how it will look like 🤯
@@pompei1968 dude we had heard that many many many times at past from many many many stupid people like you,so your hatred comment is so outdated and lame.you was born yesterday my dude?i have a good advise for you,keep paying high taxes so greece can create that project.greeks are way smarter people than you are because at the end they ''eating''your money and you just complaing and crying on youtube....lmao how cool is that?personally i love and admit the greek people
Athenians, myself included, we are not happy about this project... A building so tall is not what our city needs... Locals cannot afford these residences. If you ask me, a Formula 1 stadium would be ideal to bring tourism and much fitter in that part of Athens (which is already beautiful by the way). If not formula 1, then something else, don't know what exactly, I am not an architect or an urban designer, but I am Greek, born and raised in Athens, and my city needs no more cement, apartments, and malls.....
you city would been beautyful instead of all those ugly n 5 floor blocks were more highrises and more space for green ...your leftist looser mentality brought the ugly cement carpet of non architectural athens...wake up dont be jealous not all people is rich but there is no reason to hate rich people
Amen Lived in Ano Glyfada in a 6th floor Apt (flat) that overlooked the old Athens Intl Airport. I remember driving up to that old airport to pick up/drop off visitors and seeing a Greek soldier outfront sunning himself on top of a tank. The year was 1985;1986;1987😮.
This will be a "15 minute city" for the global elite. I don't think they have plans for it. Maybe only when those foreign Millionaires and Billionaires who will buy all the apartments, want to have a F1 track, they are going to build one for them.
Some scientists did the math. The Parthenon, it costed to Athens in current money, 5 to 6 Billions. This project is going to cost 8 Billions. It's going to be our modern image to the world. Greece isn't only islands, Parthenon, Delphi, Meteora etc. Greece is much more. You can truly live your myth in Greece. As a Greek who loves traveling inside my country, my best advice, do a little research. You can find much cheaper, but same quality places. I don't say don't visit the aforementioned ones, but Greece has a place for every type of human. Those who seek to party, those who seek their peace, those who seek family-oriented places, those who seek historical places and lastly, those who seek everything at once. The topography of Greece is what makes our country objectively one of the 10 most beautiful countries in the world, but for us Greeks, every network we want to build, be it road, rail, electrical, internet etc is extremely inefficient and expensive since we're only 9 million Greeks, scattered all over. We have to connect Northern Greece with Athens and Southern Greece, Peloponnese. All our Aegean islands with our Ionian (western Greece's) islands and obviously, Crete, our biggest island. The road network we recently built all over Greece, I admit, it's more than marvelous, but it costed us a fortune. However, since we literally went through mountains, it reduced the time to the two biggest cities from 6-7 hours down to 4 hours with a car and 3 hours with an express train without stops in-between. Similar case with the Metro which is voted the most beautiful in Europe. It's now being expanded. Meanwhile, in the second biggest city, Thessaloniki, every few months the works stop because they found archaeological artifacts. It became tiring for the average citizen. We know, everywhere you dig in Greece, you're going to find Greek artifacts. Then, we have those opportunists who don't lose a chance to make a buck. The new museum we built near the Parthenon, the State had to buy the area. The owners sold it for another fortune. That's why, our new airport is built slightly outside the city, connected with the Metro. None around to bother the State. Lastly, we've had one central square with extremely bad reputation due to the junkies gathered around, like every "good" European Capital -the Junkies-Park. You can search here on YT, "The new Omonoia Square". Along with the beauty, came the cleaning of the place. The bad reputation, gone. Greeting from Greece and don't forget my advice. At the very least, try to look for "Halkidiki" in Northern Greece. It's the 3-legged peninsula. It's like many islands stuck together. Every 5-10 kilometers, a new town to discover with its own beach. Thank Zeus we have the cleanest waters in Europe with the most Blue Flags (awards). For sea-level, 95,2% purity. Our sea is like a swimming pool or the Caribbean sea. The drinking water, 100% purity. Only watch out a couple of public places since the infrastructure was literally built by our old mathematicians/scientists, 2500 years ago, literally.
As a Greek living abroad I'd say two things are of utmost importance in this project. First would be affordable rental areas to ensure rent stays low and appartments won't be bought and then be put up for rent at extreme prices. The second would be a huge chuck of green space. Greek cities have almost no parks compared to Berlin for instance.
@@Chicagohitman000 φιλε μου αγροτη, η γεωργια δεν ειναι ο δεικτης αναπτυξης της οικονομιας. Δεν ειμαστε αγροτικη κοινωνια, ειστε ενα πολυ μικρο ποσοστο του γενικοτερου πληθυσμου
Εσυ το έγραψες. εγώ δεν είπα αυτό.., τώρα που ξέρεις από που στηρίζετε η οικονομία μπορείς να μας πεις το λόγο που η ΕΕ πνιγεί τους αγρότες σε κάθε χώρα. Αγγλία Γερμανία Γαλλία Ιταλία και κάθε έξεις. Μήπως γνωρίζεις ;
The project is linked to the public transportation system!the whole length of the north part is linked to multiple metro stations and the south part to the tram system that goes to the center of Athens !and there are tens of bus lines passing both north and south of the project!
Casino, Mega Yacht ports, high end fashion and food, expensive residential areas, tons of green in one place, its clear this is for the rich of the world made out of taxpayer money. We could have a high speed train linking the two biggest cities but no this is more important.
@@AndreasStokas Dude, it a privately funded project, on land the goverment gave with 90% discount to their friends. If i and you probably had the chance to buy some land there for even 20% discount to market i would buy it myself but that was not what the goverment wanted.
As a South Athenian, I think that this project is is a bit too much. Not to be ungrateful, but I think it'd be way more efficient to just create the park, and let the whole rest of the former Hellinikon airport develop to the likes of Palaio Faliro and Glyfada, as a plain ol' city. but then again, tourism is our biggest strength. Still, I think that just opening the area for residence would fix the high rents, as it is close to the center, and well connected by rail. I don't know how to feel about this,, but I like to see Greece finally start to pick up some projects, it's been like forever😅
There's definitely a case to be made that the tourists attracted to this area will be subtracted from other areas in Greece, and that the balance will overall remain the same.
9:37 this is totally incorrect, as it's ALREADY connected to the Elliniko metro station on the north-west area (with already provisioned an extention towards Glyfada, so that it will cover north-east), as well 4 tram stations (!) and bus lines.
Thank you for keeping us up to date with the enormous variety of progression around the world. And not a single repeated video so far! So much better than the B1M. BDB is the best!
Great idea but just another rich get richer poor get poorer. Take a look around Greece people can’t feed their families. How about bring manufacturing to all areas of Greece people need good paying jobs. This is just for tourists and the ultra rich play ground.
@@jorham1That the most of us (Greeks) we are living in poverty and the few "chosen ones" who can live there in the future, they can put the scyscrapers and their protected community in their a-holes my friend...
Yes, but don't forget, patriot, that we also have many earthquakes, after a 6.5 on the Richter scale, will be the first skyscraper unfit for habitation.😂🤣😂🤣
@@princessgothicgirl1584 You really believe that a 6.5 Richter earthquakes is a problem for a skyscraper. Japan has many skyscrapers and they have many earthquakes of 7 or above Richter.
@@madamedellaporte4214 Oh, my. In denial of crimes committed. Cannibalistic attitude. The neighbor's goat anecdote. Thuggishness. Mocking other ethnicities. Animal cruelty. Disrespecting nature. The list is bigger.
It's a pity to see such childish mistakes from such a professionally made reportage. There have been high-rises in Athens since the 70's. Currently there are 5 high-rises in Athens that I personally know and seen with my eyes. And I don't even live in Athens.
yeah yeah we have seen this scenario before here , even though i wish something like this was possible mark my words this whole project is 1 football match derby away from turning into hell or whats most likely to happen politicians are gonna pocket as much money as possible from the project but they will charge extra for even passing by the general area road , happened with other projects around the country at a smaller scale am sure the politicians wouldnt mind another big envelope under their doorstep
Any funding for this project will line the pockets of politicians before it goes anywhere near the area and its development. Unfortunately that is the reality of Greece
@@paokaraify wtf did you expect? The point is it is Greek funded not Chinese and that is good. It is a building with 100 apartments or so, did you expect the avg Greek to buy it?
Elinikò its a city of ATTICA !!!! Athens also is a part of attica😅😅😅 and greece is a protectorate there is no local funds .. this tower is the new world trade center ...
Not even in a hundred years! Regardless of its architectural and urban design aspect, there is no relation between this "project" and the reality in Greece. Unfortunately, once more a big urban design "bet" in Greece will be lost.
It will never be completed. Athens doesnt need this, the costs are ballooning , workers are in grave shortage. But most of all, corruption. This will have the same fate as olympic venues. At least i hope when it s abandoned it becomes a park
Before someonoe invest in The Ellinikon must think where the project will find all this water for all those trees and plants. The olympic center in Athens for 2004 (OAKA) must have plants and grass but does not have until now. All this water for trees, plans and lakes will be exist?
You are IGNORANT and dumb.....Germany should STFU....1) Europeans bailed out Germany after the war. 2) Greece signed for Germany's debt to be forgiven so it can stand on its feet after WWII 3) Germany never paid for the destruction of the entire infrastructure in Greece during the war 4) Germany never paid back the OBLIGATORY LOAN they forced upon Greece during the occupation. 5) They stole the entire gold supply from the central BANK OF GREECE and they never returned it. Go learn history MALAKA..... ΑΝΤΕ ΓΑΜΗΣΟΥ ΜΠΑΣΤΑΡΔΕ------ Google translate is your friend....
Like every new construction in Greece: just wait for 10 years to see it become completely degraded. Chances are that it will look completely decadent and people will stop going there after 10 years
At least the private investers, will eventually force the greek governments to link athens center with the beaches of the city, via metro. They are so corrupted that until now , no metro goes to a beach, making life of athenians and turists so difficult during summer.
There a metro line connecting the area, there is already new stations in construction that will be ready by that time, and there is also the tram line from the riviera to the port of Piraeus
@@Zaxos123 real people want to go from syndagma to the beach in 10 minutes , not more. They have other things to do as well. As this is happening in other developed turistic cities ( eg Barcelona). Now, if you have 2 hours to go to the beach, and 2 hours to return, you take the tram. I worh, unfortunately, my time is precious same happens with the time of visitors in Athens. They don’t have so mych time. They just don’t syay in Athens more than 1-2 days, an the city is loosing bilious of money every yerar, due to that ( intended) inconvenience. . Being next to the beach but unable to go🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@georgegiapitzis8204 “connect “ in all world, means that you access the beach in 15-20 the max, from center of Athens. Without changing any train. More time is not considered access, and is referring to people who have lots of time to spend. Normal working people or turists do not hsve time to spend in trams etc, that may lead them to a beach in 1-2 hours.
Yeah right. The locals are already seeing their real estate price skyrocketing and they are extremely happy about it. Keep in mind that 70% of households in Greece own at least one apartment.
@@AndreasStokas real estate prices rising are only good if you own multiple houses which you plan on selling for profit or renting. If you are a local that only owns the house in which he lives in, the result will only be higher taxes on that house. Not to mention the noise, pollution, and the overall obstruction of the view of the areas behind the skyscrapers. Greeks are not going to benefit from this one bit, only the foreign investors that have already bought every single apartment in the future skyscrapers. Greece is slowly becoming a gigantic hotel.
