Honestly this archetype feels right out of a parallel timeline GX era set, a sort of counterpart to the Gladiator Beasts with there battle effects but didn't need the cycling to pull of there effects. But they came out in 2021, they were never going to survive.
It explains alot of things go wrong... the lack of good downsides also didn't help as well... War Rock's bad spot is honestly a result of what's around it, and heavy reliance on Crowd control effect... written off hopelessness got me wondering on a Roguelike format that would try to encourage cards that would be written off as "not usable" to be usable
@@CaptainPoseidon282 May I suggest combining them with other Earth and/or Warriors, look up all in this category and find which combination you like, mabey you'll find a new combination.
Fun fact : When this Archetype goes to OCG, they changed the name to ウォークライ (War Cry) because the JP letters just couldn't do War Rock without confusing it with Warlock since both of them spells ウォーロック
This is unironically my main deck in Master Duel. As a yugiboomer it is simple to play but also I accidentally found it funny how Meteoragon messed up DPE and Accesscode Talkers
I have played war rock in TCG for 2 months, war rock is one of the first archetype that I built in Master Duel, when war rock came out in Duel Links, I climbed to platium with it. Today I learned that Fortia is a dude and not a tomboy gf.
As someone who insisted in trying to make a quality Amazoness deck before they got good support, I always appreciated War Rocks for what they were trying to do.
So quick note, we also have access to synchro plays with level 6-8 synchros thanks to T.G. Striker who is a level 2 earth warrior that can special summon itself from the hand along with Gaktos. Meaning this gives us access to the GOYO SYNCHRO PACKAGE! And because they are mostly earth warriors they get boosted by the battle effects of our war rocks! Letting us steal their big boss monsters with Goyo Guardian and then use them for link material for our link monsters! In addition to this we can also tech in The A. Forces to give us an even greater boost for fighting stuff as it boosts warriors by 200 for each warrior and the effect STACKS for EACH COPY in play meaning with 3 copies in play you can get a maximum boost of 3600 to all of your warriors if you have 6 on the field!
You know, there's not enough Yugioh cards that look like hot dudes. Usually they're robots, dragons, or underage anime girls, but War Rocks is there to fill in the gap.
Almost everything you mentioned in this video is something I figured out trying to build War Rock after like an hour in the tank. Though I am a little disappointed that you didn't include Ra'Ten the Heavenly General as an ED option. It's another Earth Warrior with a slightly easier summoning requirement than BLS, can field more War Rocks if you set your field up correctly and even has free removal at the start of the battle phase. EDIT: Waboku is also an interesting tech card, especially for more casual or budget players. Its defensive strategy is obvious but it can also be used offensively allowing your smaller War Rocks to attack with battle immunity
3:39 No, Nova, this is not exponential scaling. A given number of n monsters applying a buff of 200 ATK (n-1) times to each other is only quadratic scaling.
If I can suggest some tech, Vernusylphs. I faced a War Rock deck utilizing them to turbo out the high levels with ease. Helping Medium going live as soon as possible.
I believe that's because in one of the cards show bashileos older battling also an older fortia which means he got replaced by fortia as the new leader
As a diehard War Rock fan, I gotta say Meteoragon is my favorite. You'd be surprised how few people know how to deal with him. On another note, consider also Double Summon and Spirit Barrier for some extra utility. Double Summon will help with getting bodies on the field quickly, which War Rocks tend to struggle with, whereas Spirit Barrier has provided me with some interesting kamikaze strategies; if my opponent is playing too passively and just summons big beaters without attacking, Spirit Barrier keeps my life points safe so I can throw a Gactos or something into the enemy on a suicide mission to get the effect ball rolling.
Theres a card called Time Tearing Morganite that im about to start playing for this deck. It feels like that card was also made for it. Its also a rather good replacement for war rock ordeal, because it gives u " rest of the duel" 2 draw phase and a "rest of the duel" 2 norm summon, which if u add double summon ir arrivalrivals to that u can effectivly get 3 normal summons in one turn. I also play " the monarchs stormforth in that deck, for the 5 stars and 6 stars, that kinda ticks off my opponent when playing in my freind group.
all of them are earth, so _Gravity Balance_ is a nice your double monster reborn for your xyz link or whatever and only one of them have any on hand effect, and even so it can also activate from the grave so you can also play Time-Rending Morganite for that sweet double normal and draw phase...
People who says its the worst archetype in the game dont actually know much about the game. Id say War Rocks is more viable than 50% of archetypes in the game
And, while they have only 5 cards, I can't leave this title with any other archetype than Bouzer, War Rock and even Genex looks pretty well when you looks those cards.
@@mateusgabriel6108atm warrock themselves aren't favored to beat decks like amazoness or moonlight that spam 5k double attacking *piercing* fusion. Warrock barely capable to otk and the attack gain is abysmal compared to other battle focus decks.
I absolutely love War Rocks and have for awhile. I saw people giving them a hard time, but after playing around I realized they're the perfect "Let's see if you Actually know the rules" type deck, cause a lot of modern builds just have keycards you just near brainlessly do. I cannot tell you how many people have instaquit after mindlessly throwing their DPE at Meteoragon or having their "Infinichain" get shattered just cause one well placed Dignity knocked down their carefully placed chain. People don't respect war rock, and that makes it the perfect deck to curveball an unsuspecting Meta-Deck, cause you present challenges nobody is really "trained" for in this day and age. It's great, and Meteoragon will always be my fave "Metabuster" to really see who actually pays attention to the game!
I find it funny when some players talk about “skill” when most just run meta decks and they just autopilot the deck because they’ve watched it a million times.
I would say the only threat to Meteroraegon is Utopia the lightning. Because of his declare attack effect activation null and his detach to gain 5000 attack. But my way around witnesing him touching the field is grand horn of heaven and if i ever have to deal with him being present on the field i just stormforth him out to tribute for one of the 5 or 6 stars.
"It's still treated with total animosity, with some branding it 'The worst deck ever made'." Yea, that's a nice way to tell me how much my deck-making skills suck... when I get whomped by these damn things almost every time someone uses them against me...
I dont think War Rocks are revolutionary or groundbreaking or can shake up the meta at this current time and maybe not in the future. But it is my favorite off meta, non-rogue deck that I have fun with playing with and theorycrafting with. When you play meta, youre usually just copying a better player or a strat that is already proven to be successful. This deck encourages exploring and adventuring. It's also a deck that not alot of people are expecting to see. A deck that will get you hazed abit. A deck that will cause you to grief abit. My favorite War Rock is War Rock Generations. For its lore implications. Meteoragon going head to head Bashileos. To kinda show the new generation vs the old generation. Which also, and kind of, implies there will be some evolutions to some of the War Rock targets or evolution to the War Rock archetype as a whole. Which I am hoping is a Link-1 target like the new VS archetype are getting.
I f***ing love war rock. It's made my colossal fighter/warrior deck have more consistency in the modern day like endymion's pendulum and magistus forms and mask heroes did for me personally as contrast hero chaos, colossal fighter and endymion are my favorite cards. I'm currently using a war rock/infernoble/assault mode deck and my God my opponents hate being in the battle phase because they can get demolished. I've even managed to beat a few meta decks with it. highly recommend it
@@8bitdiedie Me personally, i have fallen in love with fluffals and could never let them go. Yeah there not the most unique cards, but fucking someone up with Tiger will ALWAYS be hilarious
I got War Rocks so excitedly when they came out and I still play them among my main decks even if I lose more, I just really enjoy using them. I wait for the day of more support for them.
Love what this deck represents, what used to be the game back then, lets just go to battle phase and attack, nothing too fancy or flashy, so may not be an oppresive boring modern deck but really feels the old vibes when just attacking xD
unrelated but i always tought this archetype was related to subterrors since they were both TCG exclusive archetypes and have similar art style,my headcannon was that the hidden city was inside war rock mountain.
In MD i fought against war rock once, and considering i use a pure cubic deck, i was probably one of the worst match up for them, and yet they hold out quite well if i’m being honest. From what I remember of that duel, War Rocks is an archetype in which you are pretty much obligated to beat them at their own game and QUICKLY, since that in the long run you’ll end up facing a full board of monsters that can erase you from existence. And after seeing this video, I’m pretty sure that the favorite strategy of this tribe is the WAR of attrition
Hello, avid War Rock enjoyer here! I absolutely loved this analysis video on one of my favorite archetypes. Yes, people may call them bad, but in my heart, they are one of the most flexible warriors that don't necessarily lock themselves to their archetype, as the worst they can do is lock you into Warriors which is not a big deal at all. So here's my 2 cents on how to play War Rocks: You can play them like a control deck. Sure, that may not sound fun or any better decks that can control the field better...but they're funny when they do it. Consider just forgetting using the Extra Deck and just put in cards like Ultimate Slayer, Dogmatika Punishment and even the duly hated Dimensional Barrier to effectively lower your opponent's options plus a way for the archetype to have non-battle phase related interruptions. If you want to survive a Battle Phase, aside from the mentioned Rookie Warrior Lady, you can also use Spirit of Neos (which is an unkillable body in battle and searches Poly for the fusion variants) or D-Hero Dynatag (which is searchable with Idaten! Though, that ultimately depends on you.). You also have access to Therion "Bull" Ain, for a pop. Good thing they have that huh? Now if you want to *hard* focus on the battle aspect of the deck's gimmick, you already have options, again, listed in the video. More specifically however, the Heroic archetype enables the one thing that War Rocks surprisingly cannot do: OTK. With Heroic Morningstar being the most free extender AND searches any of the heroic spells that *also* extend, and it's a recipe for a gigantic disaster if your opponent does not stop you. The fusion variant is where things get...creative. As mentioned, Kaiki and Kaiza are great picks but did you know they are a part of a very small archetype all about Warrior fusioning? The best one by far is Todoroki, which can easily special itself from the hand and is a quick effect poly in the Battle Phase, meaning if Todoroki attacks, you can immediately use its effect to poly to get another beatstick on the field. There are a LOT of things you can experiment with the archetype and needless to say, that's what makes them so fun. They open a lot of things for what they already are (gactos extensions, mountain protection, spirit negate) and truly, I hope people give them a chance. Who knows, you might just unleash a great big War with powerful Rocks. (Sorry. Okay, maybe not. Yeah, I'm not sorry.)
@@AquaBerk96 Sadly not, you'd have to keep checking every shop update. They randomly put Kaiza in the Legacy Packs so I wouldn't be surprised if they shadow dropped the rest of the Star Warriors.
Or you could just summon Limit.. works every time espicially against combo deck like mathmech or branded,.. espicially against Floo.. it's literally my bird killer deck haha.
Hace built two types of war rock decks - Heroic and Vernusylf. Vernusylf do help a lot due to their geberic Earth support, but the lock into Earth effects can prevent some combos if not done in right order For heroics not tried it too much yet, but mainly using to go into their Rank 1 that gives all warriors protection from battle destructiom once per turn each
You know i am curious to see what war rocks have next support wise. Are we gonna see a potential extra deck boss?(to show progress like generations) will we get some cool ways to force the opponent to battle no matter what in archetype? I love these guys and really want to see them more often.
Gaur Plains fits SO freaking well with this archetype! Also, I do have a soft spot with this deck. I still need to build it, but I do want to play it at some point. Decks that very few people care about are *chef's kiss* up my alley.
Imperial Iron Wall is my tech of choice. It keeps your Lvl 8 in the gy and limits your opponents options for dealing with your floaters. Stops evenly matched and the pot cards, destroys Kashtira and Runik, and generally hurts meta decks. It is also not a completely degenerate flood gate so people don't get pissed when you play it.
Big fan of yours, amazing video as always! My favorite War Rock card is Meteoragon, easily. Absolutely incredible boss monster, exactly what a battle phase deck should strive to have!
with how little this deck banishes, imperial iron wall would help a load with the banish heavy meta of master duel right now and i think it makes bashileos go back to the graveyard when it leaves the field so you can use him over and over again for basically free
What about this? Small World, and/or a Promotion/Puppet Chess engine. Promotion can special summon ANY Earth Warrior, and Puppet Pawn can banish itself to search ANY Earth Warrior.
Fav card in the archetype? Easily Mammud!! You get a Lvl5 tribute free summon, bringing those XYZs and many synchros into viability, AND you get a back row pop with a front row smash. I have it in nearly every deck in Duel Links, especially any I have set up with Odd-Eyes Advance Dragon which is a GY scooper and it destroys a monster for half damage to the opponent. I did that move to a dude rocking ANCIENT GEAR GOLEMS. I dropped the 5000 ATK jobbie by effect, winning the duel with the damage.
Also the synergy with other warriors and earth warriors make them SO useful! They stay in my decks as the backbone to many strats, like this dragon drawout, easily my fave dragon too.
Yay my favourite archetype in Duel Links. Friend also gifted me them as a joke in real life - still like tinkering with the deck for when we play low power archetypes
@@zorororonoa1362 It's how you build the deck, you can build it wrong and it will slop further than it's default difficulty, if you build it right it will go beyond its difficulty and be in the top tier decks, just gotta build it right, it's like chemistry, do something wrong and it will blow up in your face.
@Kagemusha Shien like chemistry, you need the right tools to make the recipe if you don't have them or in that case is not the right ones you can't make the recipe unfortunately Konami is act like it's weakness not exist war rock it never was and it never gonna be a top tier deck only for the reason it doesn't have the right tools to be even in the thing that it supposed to be the best is bad like to beat a high attack monster more than 3000 who it supposed to do very easily like nothing war rock is fun it have the best art and style but is mediocre is just ok
@@zorororonoa1362 It's not Konami's fault that they made War Rocks and not War Rock's fault either, it is however Konami's Actual fault that they made the game ill by pumping out cards that are absurdly power creeped, that's YuGiOh now, power creeped to the core that it snuffs out all the fun in other archetypes, that's what power creep does to a game, yugioh is a prime example despite the ban list, if it wasn't so power creeped there would be little to non on the ban list board.
Would have loved to see this deck animated in GX lol definitely would have been my favorite deck bar none. I could have even seen this be the deck of someone related to Joey wheeler lol. Decks like this make me think about what I’d run if I were an anime character within the series.
Would make for a fantastic video game where it’s a Pokémon like experience you have a character and you get to build your deck with only single copies of cards like the anime lol. Through A.I any card you play will be called out and there’s a summon animation for every monster level 8 and above. Or every monster gets a summon animation and level 8s and above get a unique attack cutscene maybe.
A side note that i dont think was mentioned about Meteroragon is that his quick effect is the only effect out of every war rock monster that isnt a hard once per turn. So that means if u had 3 Meteroragons on the field they can all use their effects in the same turn which would net each of them an extra 600 attack and all three can attack monsters twice, (6 attacks). Do with that info what u will.
As someone who has been playing War Rock since release, it can be surprisingly playable as a blind second deck. I have very fond memories of playing this at locals and seeing people try to out Meteoragon with stuff like Accesscode and DPE which he hilariously hard counters! I mix mine with a small Heroic package to give further extension going second for some rank 4 plays before committing to the battle phase. If your opponent doesn't read your cards, you can get away with some very cheesy wins!
Dude War Rocks are dope and very fun to play. I play them on master duel and they kick ass. They may not be stupidly competitive with 50million negates and all that mess but it's no where near "the worst" to ever come out. People who said they are trash or whatever are sweats that either can't play with without a bunch of negates or Maxx C.
In Master Duel, War Rock Fortia was my first royal finish foil card pulled randomly from a pack. I don't know anything about the deck except that I heard that it's bad, but I'm keeping it to celebrate that random pull.
They are a pretty reliable deck in Duel Links Even if the lack of a Main phase 2 means wey can't set up a searched dignity in out turn. Hope cards like terraforming, rookie Warriors lady and WR Skyler make it into the Game son.
FLEENSTONES?! OHHHH. There's like 2 decks I can think of that do okay despite having A battle phase focused element relevant to their game plan, and this is unfortunately not one of them. And what makes Kashtira annoying right now isn't even their main deck monsters' effects having attack declaration as an alternate activation condition.
Another card that might be a neat tech pick is Battle Survivor, a Level 4 Earth Warrior with 1600/800 and the effect to, at the end of the Battle phase, add a card that was sent to your graveyard during this Battle phase while you controlled this face-up card back to your hand (hard once-per-turn, though).
Honestly your vido gave motivation to go and make a War Rock deck on master duel! Found out later that for some reason MD doesn’t have Medium which is a damn shame.
I will finally make this deck, with 3 pot of extra, Zubaba General x3, the link 2 flame swordman x3, the handtrap lady warrior x3, 2 magnum shield I try the deck on sim and for fun he is pretty ok. Especialy when during my testings I had Zubaba General on field with ATK boosted many times by War Rock monsters, equip with Magnum and Meteordragon by his effect... It was a very good beater.
Commented before watching the video. Will maybe edit later. Says worst archetype. Video isn't about Ursarctic. I've seen a War Rock beat a Tearlaments deck during Tear's tier 0 status for fuck's sake. And, yes, it was just War Rock, no additional engine. My favorite tech with Medium is Parthian Shot. Opponent can't activate monster effects in the main phase because of Medium, but can't activate them, so they rush through Main 1 and the BP to get to Main 2 and they get hit with that. Wasn't aware of Terminal World. I like it more, as it's less likely to get shot by an opponent who fears set backrow. On the note of Attack Gainer; while Naturia Beast isn't a Warrior, it is a nasty floodgate.
I've been saying and a have to yell it a lot, It Depends On How You Build Your Deck And How You Play! I don't see others complaining about Basic Insect because it's clearly a weak card but you can do more with it too, someone buffed MAXX C and won then any weak card is a good one "IF": "You have to know how to play the card and use the card." -Zane Trusdale You have to find that sweet spot for war rocks, you gotta combine them, but they'll say they're only playable if "this" archetype carries them, stupid excuse, that's how combo decks work, and how decks work, you meld cards you like into a deck. Besides, War Rocks were intentionally made simple, it's a reflection of the ol days of Yu-Gi-Oh, all battle phase and not main phase 20 negates "HA HA you can't Play the game" type of stuff.
Even now after getting support War Rocks struggle, I think they need what Amazoness got. Give them some extra oomph with either a fusion monster or a link monster that gives them some utility.
.....so here's the the thing with me, I only know War Rocks by name alone and nothing else. I didn't hear or listen to the gossip around it, so I know next to zip to this archetype. That being said I personally think that this isn't THEE worst archetype I've heard of (and the very detailed card combos shown in vid helped show the actual good potential this deck has) I'd say it's a very strategy focus mid deck that use CC to control the field on the opponents turn, and then goes into its battle oriented strengths on my turn while still using some CC effects to help my odds. Actually this archetype reminds me of a table top strategy game mentality. Position your units in the right place and plan out your future moves, then study what your opponent does and use the resources you have to work around that and try to break down your opponents forces and leave them in a weaken state that you can control the game hence forth.
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