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As composers we think about melody, harmony and rhythm. But if that's ALL we think about, we may find our music turns 'beige' - in this video I talk about how to use the musical space and the register of instruments to avoid the dreaded 'Beige Belt'.
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@DBruce
@DBruce 9 месяцев назад
Very proud of my son's hilarious outro music which he made for me as a comedy birthday song. Do you think it should become a permanent feature?
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 9 месяцев назад
Definitely, provided he gets the appropriate royalties ;)
@Alan_Stinchcombe
@Alan_Stinchcombe 9 месяцев назад
Yes, until he surpasses it. 😊
@subjectline
@subjectline 9 месяцев назад
Keep it, I lol'd
@leiferickson3183
@leiferickson3183 9 месяцев назад
YES!
@Richard_Nickerson
@Richard_Nickerson 9 месяцев назад
My son loves it
@HerewardTheW
@HerewardTheW 9 месяцев назад
One of your best videos yet, David, in content and in editing!
@DBruce
@DBruce 9 месяцев назад
Thank you!
9 месяцев назад
Fun to unexpectedly see myself on the screen at 11:46 😄Great video with very good points as always, keep up the good work! Cheers
@japphan
@japphan 9 месяцев назад
I actually think there is a hypnotic quality in staying in that beige register, and I find it to be a very interesting minimalist idea, and have written a couple of pieces that remain there. I am convinced you can make it sparkly bright beige.
@HighKingTurgon
@HighKingTurgon 9 месяцев назад
In C
@DBruce
@DBruce 9 месяцев назад
I think this expresses a thought I had but didn't manage to articulate, thank you!
@elleboman8465
@elleboman8465 8 месяцев назад
@@HighKingTurgon _In C_ has a pretty broad register if performed on a varied set of instruments. Reich's _Piano Phase_ , on the other hand! Now there's an example of sparkly bright beige music if I ever heard one!
@alexlewis5365
@alexlewis5365 9 месяцев назад
As somebody who has watched a lot of tng recently, I can confirm I hear the soft hum of a starship constantly. Even when I'm eating, or sleeping. It's haunting, yes, but wonderful.
@SethIsDavid
@SethIsDavid 9 месяцев назад
Using a MIDI piano roll instead of a score made my brain tickle. Not sure if I like it...but definitely made me feel something. Great vid
@hoangkimviet8545
@hoangkimviet8545 9 месяцев назад
Now we have David Bruce Star-trekker.
@KeithGroover
@KeithGroover 9 месяцев назад
That's really interesting about how the beginning of Rite of Spring has "gotten easier" over time. I think something similar has happened with the beginning of the 3rd movement of Mahler 1. It's way up high in the double bass' range, and I'm sure it was meant to sound weak and small, but we've all grown up listening to Edgar Meyer and are a LOT more comfortable up there these days, so you have to kind of "tone it down" and make it a little more weak and small-sounding. It's like an arms race of musicianship.
@isaiahmumaw
@isaiahmumaw 9 месяцев назад
I think much of this is fueled by the growing interconnectedness of our world. As musicians with incredible skill become more well-known, more people try to copy them, often refining it in the process. I see it all the time in the world of marching band. Things which were considered borderline unplayable less than ten years ago are considered baseline requirements for members in the top competitive groups today, and the pace is rapidly increasing as kids try to copy what they’re seeing online.
@notaguy4289
@notaguy4289 9 месяцев назад
I started writing music around a year ago, and I really have to thank you for all the work that you've put out, it is by far one of the best resources here on youtube about how to make music that's not just functional, but interesting and more emotive, a lot of the choices I make when writing are inspired by you, despite academic music not being really my thing, thank you very much!!!
@Nooticus
@Nooticus 9 месяцев назад
so true!! Hes an absolute legend
@jamiebsn5589
@jamiebsn5589 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for having me (and my continuously more strained tenor register) on this David! I'm now off to start practicing Kristian's treble C's... I've got a ways to go..
@brianyule1289
@brianyule1289 9 месяцев назад
These videos are incredibly clear & incredibly clarifying. Great stuff!
@mymo_in_Bb
@mymo_in_Bb 9 месяцев назад
When the rite of spring part came, I thought to myself "oh dear oh no this is the video I submitted those recordings to" and when I found out I wasn't featured in the end, I was so relieved! (Anyway, thanks so much for making this video, it's incredible how much there is for me to learn!)
@Hudson_Holland
@Hudson_Holland 9 месяцев назад
The editing in this video is legendary!!! Very great concept, thank you!
@Hypnotic0range
@Hypnotic0range 9 месяцев назад
Another video like this touching on rythmic beigeness could be nice, I've played more than a few band pieces that are harmonically very pretty, but have almost nothing going for them rythmically and they end up all sounding like the same harmony soup.
@theKobus
@theKobus 9 месяцев назад
On the topic of band pieces, I find oversaturation a really serious problem in a lot of band music. Because the composer feels like they have this job to make an interesting part for everybody and then there’s just too much going on and the overall effect is slushy
@ivanmoren3643
@ivanmoren3643 9 месяцев назад
Yes!!! This is why a lot of bass lines in old reggae and dub are SO good.
@danielkeller6610
@danielkeller6610 9 месяцев назад
Definitely one of the best David Bruce videos of all time... probably my new favorite
@SilvermainMusic
@SilvermainMusic 9 месяцев назад
Fantastic delivery. Bravo for your Star Trek compositing!
@danpowell3953
@danpowell3953 8 месяцев назад
As a Star Trek and music fan, I found this very entertaining. Your editing was out of this world. My only issue was trying to hear the musical examples while you were still talking, but I get it…
@bret6484
@bret6484 9 месяцев назад
I have been struggling with this without realizing. I think this fresh take on register is about to transform my composition. Thank you so much David!
@petrzakrzewski
@petrzakrzewski 9 месяцев назад
What a cool way to teach music, good job David!
@Fempath
@Fempath 9 месяцев назад
Live long and prosper captain David Bruce 🖖
@TheDumplingOrc
@TheDumplingOrc 9 месяцев назад
This clears up quite a lot for me! I'm glad I have actually been doing a fair few of these tricks innately, but I understand it better so will improve, thank you!
@johnberkley6942
@johnberkley6942 9 месяцев назад
A great example of register as a musical effect is 'Mood Indigo' by Duke Ellington. It was so far out of their comfort zone that the musicians struggled to get an unfluffed 'take' when recording it for the first time. But the effect was worth the effort, and hearing the arrangement played on the 'wrong' instruments is an almost mystical experience.
@braynjohnson4302
@braynjohnson4302 9 месяцев назад
The editing on this one is hilarious
@tbastdgagitw
@tbastdgagitw 9 месяцев назад
Excellent. Wonderful visuals.
@James-wf8nu
@James-wf8nu 9 месяцев назад
your videos are always so engaging david
@xxManscapexx
@xxManscapexx 9 месяцев назад
This was fantastic. I hope you keep the new outro music 🤣
@TigerRichards
@TigerRichards 9 месяцев назад
That was ... illuminating. And interesting. And fun. And a very clever video format. Nice!
@blow-by-blow-trumpet
@blow-by-blow-trumpet 9 месяцев назад
Nice video David. I totally love the whole Star Trek theme! I appreciate your humour as much as your musical insights.
@themanupdtairs
@themanupdtairs 8 месяцев назад
Hilarious theme continuity. Kudos David!
@rogerhewettmusic
@rogerhewettmusic 8 месяцев назад
Wonderful video. Thank you!
@petergivenbless900
@petergivenbless900 9 месяцев назад
The 'Star Trek' imagery used in your exploration of the Beige Belt should've used clips from 'Star Trek: The Motion Picture' where the colourful uniforms of the TV series were actually replaced with beige ones! I quite like "beige" music; it allows the patterns within the music to "speak for themselves" rather than getting lost in, or overshadowed by, the different registers used. I find music that has its structure spread too broadly across registers somehow sounds "simpler" than the same material confined to a few octaves which, to my ears, sounds desnser and more ambiguous.
@ProuvaireJean
@ProuvaireJean 9 месяцев назад
To be fair, the editor desaturated the colours so that the Command gold (technically green) shirts did look more beige. So beige in fact that for a moment I thought the uniform he was pasted on to was the beige version from The Cage / Where No Man Has Gone Before.
@SuperOhdannyboy
@SuperOhdannyboy 9 месяцев назад
I really needed to hear this. Great lesson.
@Nooticus
@Nooticus 9 месяцев назад
Excellent video as always! Great examples used and engaging from start to finish! The floating head made me chuckle a few times too!
@WizardOfArc
@WizardOfArc 9 месяцев назад
love the edits!
@BudgeChem
@BudgeChem 9 месяцев назад
Great content! And lots of great comments that I also agree with!
@GeoffLiMusic
@GeoffLiMusic 9 месяцев назад
This video looks like it would've taken a long time to make. Super informative and love the editing!
@halflearned2190
@halflearned2190 8 месяцев назад
Oh my god what an amazing editing!!!
@raybergstrom
@raybergstrom 9 месяцев назад
Insightful lesson! Brilliant and hilarious editing!
@AllanGildea
@AllanGildea 9 месяцев назад
Fabulous. Thank you.
@daanbaas2962
@daanbaas2962 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the very informative and fun video Bruce 🖖
@quaver1239
@quaver1239 9 месяцев назад
Marvellous - thank you! 💙💙
@lizziesmusicmaking
@lizziesmusicmaking 7 месяцев назад
Entertaining, educational, and very understandable. Thank you and well done.
@user-xw6bf2dy4t
@user-xw6bf2dy4t 6 месяцев назад
This is so brilliant and entertaining🤩👌🎶, clarifying and inspiring❗️A thousand thanks, Bruce 🙏🏻You entered my life just in the perfect time ✨
@bentaylor4705
@bentaylor4705 9 месяцев назад
I now have a couple pieces I have to check out. Thanks!
@NicleT
@NicleT 8 месяцев назад
That was very insightful. BTW, the shot where you're relaxing on captain's bed is hilarious!!
@gabrielkolim
@gabrielkolim 9 месяцев назад
The editing is on fire 💥🔥
@dlollard
@dlollard 9 месяцев назад
This is cracking me up, and, I learned a lot, and, the outro music is great!
@alexchristodoulou
@alexchristodoulou 9 месяцев назад
Fantastic video, thank you so much!
@stockicide
@stockicide 9 месяцев назад
Great video!
@syroyid
@syroyid 9 месяцев назад
Educational, creative, accurate, humourous and exquisitely produced. World-class material
@SamTahbou
@SamTahbou 9 месяцев назад
I'm loving the production in this one
@michaelhunter2136
@michaelhunter2136 8 месяцев назад
The Star Trek metaphore was hilarious, and I don't generally like such things because they are often distracting from the actual content. On top of the humor, what you were talking about and the examples you gave were amazing. I'd give you a thumbs up without the Star Trek thing but now I'm sad that I can only give you one thumbs up. Great stuff!
@singlesideman
@singlesideman 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for making yet another solid, well made video that isn't filled with errors and self aggrandizement, a real rarity.
@Sannahmusic
@Sannahmusic 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for this useful advice. 🙏
@qazwerspoil
@qazwerspoil 8 месяцев назад
That Ligeti piece is very similar to the 7th movement of his Musica Ricercata. Love it!
@matthewbenedict5923
@matthewbenedict5923 9 месяцев назад
Incredible!
@hisham_hm
@hisham_hm 9 месяцев назад
Amazing video, and it gives me vocabulary to describe an issue I've felt with many songs but couldn't put my finger on - case in point, how so many songs in George Harrison's later solo catalogue feel "samey" from start to finish. (I think you see that a lot in the latter career of established artists because they get a pass at releasing whatever they want and don't get editorialized by producers as much, while up-and-coming artists either get dragged out of the Beige Belt by producers, or don't get a chance to release music in the first place if their songs are too beige (of course everyone can release independently nowadays but you know what I mean)).
@leiferickson3183
@leiferickson3183 9 месяцев назад
Amazing production! This must have taken a lot of work.
@jayducharme
@jayducharme 9 месяцев назад
Great piece, and your most impressive visual tour de force yet!
@GalenWillettMusic
@GalenWillettMusic 8 месяцев назад
Force? Wrong franchise!
@LisztyLiszt
@LisztyLiszt 9 месяцев назад
Some interesting ideas here. I've always found that music which frequently changes direction in unexpected ways really adds colour, character, and life to the work. Among my favourites in this regard are the Scherzo from Mendelssohn's Octet, Liszt's Feux Follets, and the masterpiece of them all, the first movement of Eroica. Not a single boring bar between them while every note oozes with intention.
@tdubveedub
@tdubveedub 8 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@endima6204
@endima6204 9 месяцев назад
very interesting video...thank you
@stefke5862
@stefke5862 9 месяцев назад
Thank you! I’m not writing classical music but heard right away that I should be more aware of the beige nebula in my songs
@tpgslmth4252
@tpgslmth4252 9 месяцев назад
Really nice video editing
@Ryousake
@Ryousake 9 месяцев назад
This is a very interesting video! I'm very sensitive to the beige belt when I'm composing. I know I could write music that's more ambient but that ends up being boring for people who aren't me so I started making sure to not let things get too "same-y" with texture and tone. Sometimes, it is the goal because a lot of my music is telling a story and if i need something that sounds mundane, i let the beige belt in just a little bit!
@thevalarauka101
@thevalarauka101 9 месяцев назад
I like the letting it in idea, might try that myself sometime!
@XRaym
@XRaym 9 месяцев назад
The montage is so good and funny, well done !
@montego2
@montego2 9 месяцев назад
Fascinating. Useful. Boldly amusing.
@simondanielssonmusic
@simondanielssonmusic 9 месяцев назад
Love your channel. Cheers from Sweden! :) Edit: also, your editing has really stepped up as of late! The production quality is really good considering the fact that music composition is kind of a niche topic, at least compared to Apex Legends tournaments.
@huntarius1172
@huntarius1172 8 месяцев назад
Wow, I’ve always subconsciously known this and have always struggled with how to explain it when I’m helping someone write a song. Now I can just refer them to this video, thank you!
@Toggitryggva
@Toggitryggva 9 месяцев назад
Excellent!
@user-vg7ts2qt7k
@user-vg7ts2qt7k 9 месяцев назад
Now we have David Bruce Star-trekker.. your videos are always so engaging david.
@armandogiordano1226
@armandogiordano1226 9 месяцев назад
Incredible video.
@liamatherton6759
@liamatherton6759 9 месяцев назад
David, you’re awesome, I’m not a composer myself (in fact I’m quite crap at it, I’ll stick to the piano and singing) but thoroughly enjoy these videos. Keep up the great work!
@diegofloor
@diegofloor 9 месяцев назад
This is the first time I learn about this. I am amazed. I think in notes and harmony and rarely pay attention to the impact of register choice. And when the video started I had no idea where it was going, but I expected something like you have to change the melody, harmony, scale, whatever, to move through registers. But just voicing things properly makes so much difference. By the way I started writing this about halfway through the video, and then you started talking about saturation, which blew my mind again. So anyway, I'll just shut up and feel baffled by my musical ignorance.
@jayashrishobna
@jayashrishobna 9 месяцев назад
I gasped at the Ravel low chord. Brilliant demonstration.
@VocalEdgeTV
@VocalEdgeTV 8 месяцев назад
Dude this video is sick!
@MNolanMillar
@MNolanMillar 9 месяцев назад
Just what I needed to hear.
@EllisThings
@EllisThings 9 месяцев назад
I listened to all the examples with my left ear, my right ear, and then my final frontier. 🌌
@Physicks499
@Physicks499 9 месяцев назад
Thank you
@davidpickar7614
@davidpickar7614 9 месяцев назад
Bravo! As an avid musician, I see this video brilliantly engaging musicians and non-musicians alike!
@mrkv4k
@mrkv4k 9 месяцев назад
Greetings from the Czech Republic, it always warms my heart when someone mentions Czech composers.
@nandoflorestan
@nandoflorestan 9 месяцев назад
Dvorak.
@LouisEmery
@LouisEmery 8 месяцев назад
1:30 I had just played some bagatelles this week. And I was about to respond on how Beethoven avoided "beige" in his bagatelles. Right before you brought it up!!!
@sohamsengupta6470
@sohamsengupta6470 9 месяцев назад
Fantastic video as always, but you've really taken it above and beyond with the editing this time, made for an excellent watch. That being said, I noticed that some sections of your voiceover have like a tinnitusy very high frequency pitch on the left channel for some reason I'm not sure I entirely understand, it's not a very big deal probably (hell it may be high enough for me to be unable to hear it in a few years time), but yeah might be interesting to find out what's caused that. The pitch appears to be a bit different between some sections, and in a fair few sections it just appeared to be absent, which is rather intriguing to me. Once again, probably not a big deal, it's just one of those things which if you can hear it it's violently hard to ignore haha. Also love the outro by the way, excellent stuff by your son!
@herrvierkoetter
@herrvierkoetter 9 месяцев назад
you beamed me up
@stevehinnenkamp5625
@stevehinnenkamp5625 8 месяцев назад
Maestro Bruce as Captain Kirk! Don't know how you managed it, but your potrayle was as restrained as your advice was masterful. Thanks for making a powerful, sometimes forgotten strategy such a pleasure when you are in command.
@siemonblidener652
@siemonblidener652 9 месяцев назад
One inspiring example of the use of different registers in my opinion are the arpeggios in the opening theme of the last movement Beethoven's op.28.
@phyzygy
@phyzygy 9 месяцев назад
Pipe organ, where Enterprise enters the vast Expanse! This video was an artistic tour de force, thanks, David, et al.
@nolyspe
@nolyspe 7 месяцев назад
It's obvious to see you had a lot of fun recording and editing this video. 🖖 Love to see the guest appearance from Team Recorder too :P One of the most striking example that came to my mind of "holding the bass then pouring it in" is in drum & bass tracks where the sub-bass kicks in only after a bit. Check "Fracture & Neptune - Ventura" where the sub kicks in around 1:10 into the track. If you have a beefy subwoofer or even good studio monitors that go into the low range, the effect is very cool. The track is already full of little details before that, and the sub kicking in gives it that form of satisfying completion. Later it just intermittently empties the mid range (save for the drums) and bring it back again.
@FilipSandecomposer
@FilipSandecomposer 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for this educational and interesting video! And for including my very good friend Kristian Oma Rønnes!
@map-reduce
@map-reduce 9 месяцев назад
I surprised myself in liking the Rite of Spring first notes on accordion. Could lead to an interesting reorchestration. Thanks for a thought provoking video!
@abydosianchulac2
@abydosianchulac2 8 месяцев назад
Maybe it's because the accordion sound strained wherever in its register it plays a solo line.
@russkalen2337
@russkalen2337 9 месяцев назад
I was delighted by your Star Trek setting. I was most interested in the concept of saturation of a register and how that can fatigue the listener into Beige. Something to be wary of in my composing. Thanks. Oh and the outro music was cool, but I don't think I want to hear it every time, lest it become beige.
@mr88cet
@mr88cet 9 месяцев назад
Hey! Beige just happens to be my favorite color! Haha, just kidding! Great composing suggestions as usual. I especially liked your point about clearing out an area of the sound spectrum a little before you add a crucial part to if.
@bobmoorecomposer
@bobmoorecomposer 9 месяцев назад
OK, I about spewed my coffee at 00:58. Well played.
@skiesengine1836
@skiesengine1836 9 месяцев назад
There are some peak moments there xD
@willwetherington
@willwetherington 9 месяцев назад
You king of have a mixolydian scene there with Jean-Luc Picard and the TOS bridge! Lol
@omegacanon
@omegacanon 8 месяцев назад
Great analogy. For guitarists Beige Belt is the pentatonic box around 5-7 fret
@txsphere
@txsphere 9 месяцев назад
David talks about the sound of The bassoon in the Rite of Spring. Stravinsky was writing the piece to be premiered in Paris and consequently a French orchestra would be playing the piece. The French bassoonist would have been playing a French bassoon which has a smaller, sweeter sound. So did Stravinsky have the sound of the French bassoon in mind or the German bassoon which is most commonly heard today? Search "German and French bassoon comparison" to hear it. Personally I like the German sound, but I don't know if that is because it is more familiar.
@melguilb4508
@melguilb4508 9 месяцев назад
Love the Star Trek feel! So Fun! The bed scene had me laughing...
@Beatsbasteln
@Beatsbasteln 8 месяцев назад
i'll keep this in mind when i explore the vastness of space again
@EmptyZoo393
@EmptyZoo393 8 месяцев назад
I don't do any formal composition, but as an organist accompanying a congregation in church, I spend at least half my time each practice just trying to sort through registration and figuring out which stops work out well. There's a lot of reading the text, seeing what sort of emotional transitions I can create between or during verses. Like you mentioned, add some higher voices on happier transitions, remove voices for softer or more downcast sections. I also look at what needs to be added or removed to help the congregation follow the melody, especially on an unfamiliar song. While I've experimented with playing up or down an octave (16' bassoon and 8' gedakt played up an octave gets the proper fat reed sound I need for some prelude versus), I'll need to experiment with avoiding the beige belt a bit more. Playing things up an octave partway through might be a good way to clear out the crowded melody space. Also, I had a couple of folks cleaning the chapel during my last practice. It's funny how having a vacuum cleaner or two running gives you a closer approximation of how loud your voicing sounds with a hundred people in the room.
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