I still don't understand why Achilles didn't listen. All of this could of been avoided. IDC if you were depressed over the family thing and I lost mine but dude you should have enough sense to listen about the lost of more lives.
@@xavierdavis2882 to be fair, Shay literally came back screaming. Saying that they knew what the artifact would cause an earthquake, and that they let it happen. Achilles very much did not know, and up until now, a Piece of Eden had never been shown to be able to something like this. Hell Minerva (or was it Juno?) explicitly said that the artifacts couldn’t do this.
the reason for Achilles didn't listen to shay either the story writers of the game just wanted a reason for Shay's betrayal or there is a story reason like the death of his family but who knows the reason for this that's what i think at least
@@Moddy-g3v What I always liked about Assassin's Creed is being part of a bigger brotherhood. That's why in terms of immersion and atmosphere, AC1, Brotherhood and even Mirage are some of my favourites.
Connor is my favorite character in the series. He was often naive but extremely principled and in some ways even wise. His talk with Samuel Adams where he calls him out on having slaves of is own and says "all people should be equal and not in turns" is still one of my favorite moments from the game. He also had huge balls, the guy basically built a brotherhood from ground up which stood firmly against the templar influence after the war of independence (according to what we know from later mentions). I would love to see a follow up on his story, it's such a shame it'll probably never happen
It is Capitaine Louis-Joseph Gaultier, Chevalier de la Vérendrye. And you are dreaming if you think any training could make you into a proper Assassin. Do you even know what that means? It means being responsible for an ancient and proud tradition. It means obeying your Mentor without question. How else will we ensure freedom for the human race?
@@youtubeuser9496 all good it's not a great remaster the difference is very slight I'd only recommend it if you don't already have access to the original
The only time the colonial/american brotherhood was actually good was when Connor was leading them and when he brought them back. But everything before and after Connor made them the worst brotherhood.
Ubisoft should've continued where Conor left off. I know Shay's story is kind of continued in Unity, but it would be awesome to play an AC game where Conor hunts down Shay with Aveline.
Shay is killed by a thug after returning to the Colonies. Connor starts a family, but his wife leaves him taking the kids with her because he’s too busy and stubborn. Connor dies alone. Shay and Edward could both have a sequel in their stories. Shay in Paris as prequel to AC Unity. And Edward in London as sequel to Black Flag. Even Haytham can have a game in London where he exacts his revenge on his father’s killer and the man who sold his sister to slavery to the Ottomans. Ezio could easily have another game set between Brotherhood and Revelations. Altair has many tales to tell as well. He spent decades studying the apple of Eden in foreign lands away from the brotherhood. *Edit: That… Or they can make “Episodes” from memory fragments in the Animus that you can access in a future AC game. They could create some special missions that are unlocked after progressing in the story or after collecting certain items scattered across the map.
Shay didn't get anything in Unity, he kills a single guy off screen wow that's so significant, yes it helps build Arno as a character but still, Shay doesn't exist in Unity outside of that one moment
The Colonial Brotherhood was a shadow of what it could have become. I feel that Achilles, if he would have listened to Shay, would have become one of the most knowledgeable Assassins. The biggest problem was that they became the very enemy they were trying to fight. They broke every tenet that the Brotherhood had and paid the price. Connor could have become the most influential Assassin if the Brotherhood had followed the tenets correctly, due to having so many resources.
I find a lack of proper communication as a major role in the entire storyline. Shay didn't explain to Achilles what happened in Portugal the same way he described it to Haytham. Then again, in general some characters in this game just felt both arrogant and ignorant at various points... I think Rogue could have been a much better game if it wasn't so short and being developed at the same time as Unity. Since the concept of playing as a Templar certainly has a lot more potential that this game just didn't capture.
Connor had very huge bad luck to deal with everything that happened in the 18th century in the Brotherhood. Yet he is still a top tier assassin in the series.
I strongly believe AC 3 and Rogue had the potential to be the greatest story in the franchise let alone gaming. It was morally ambiguous and complex. It wasn't executed to perfection but it had the foundations for an amazing story. Rogue needed more time to make more sense in why the Creed made those decisions and justify it with great character writing like how Walter White ruined everything in the end because if his well realised character flaws. Achilles nearly had this but Adewale didn't have enough and many other characters weren't explored. I hope AC Shadows does the Templar v Assassin narrative justice as it has the serious tone and interesting characters necessary for something complex. I wouldn't say the colonial assassins are the worst as there are others who don't know much of yet. I hope you make more lore videos like this and I recommend going over the lore of AC side Characters to shine a spotlight on less well known parts.
I think the origins and discrepancies of the Leap of Faith would be a good video. Looking at who can/can’t perform it. Bayek said his father taught him by telling him to jump where as Kassandra/Alezios have no problems doing it with ease. Eivor and Basim need to be taught by others yet Ezio,Connor,Edward and Arno can perform it even before they become Assassins
@kevmannion2545 It was a tradition for Bayek, but Alexios/Kassandra likely learned to do it, seeing as how similar their lives were to previous protagonists most likely. Darius also could have taught Elpidios too which would have went down to Aya later in the family line.
@@ac_nerd9794 true but also Odyssey is chronologically the first in the timeline. So there would be no other protagonists with similar lives to learn from
@@kevmannion2545 Yeah, but I'm saying it came naturally to them where other protagonists were taught it as tradition starting with Aya and Bayek. Alexios/Kassandra likely just learned how to do it.
@kevmannion2545 I was also saying that there are many similarities with Alexios/Kassandra and the lives they lead against the Cult of Kosmos and Order of Ancients whereas the assassins were against the Templars.
@@ac_nerd9794 oh ye I agree with it being taught as tradition but Ezio was 17 year old nobleman who could do it easily and Connor could do it from a young age. Both way before joining the Brotherhood. Like I said it would be an interesting thing to make into a video
The Colonial Brotherhood’s main issue was ego and control. Achilles’ counter argument when Shay told them they shouldn’t tamper with the Precursor sites was that it was their “responsibility” when in reality they should have been protecting the precursor sites from Templar control. It’s insane to imagine the Colonial Templars embodied the Assassin tenets better than the Colonial Assassins.
Rogue was kind of disappointing. Shay is still an assassin in everything but name, his defecting to the templars was more the result of bad luck and miscommunication that's partially his fault than anything ideological, and the world building had to s contradict itself (in the nature of the artifacts and the common goal of seeking them out) in order to justify the events of the game.
Part of his reasons were however self-righteous blame deflecting. Namely blaming the Assassins for the earthquake and accusing them for knowing what would happen. Remember when they said in 3 that the artifacts explicitly couldn’t terraform the earth? Achilles had understandable reasons not believing in Shay (minus the literal screaming accusations). And later at the beginning of ACU where any morals he had that had him leave the Brotherhood is now all gone. I’ll admit that this Brotherhood deserved its downfall. I just wish Shay's betrayal didn’t rely on lore breaking retcons and finger pointing blame.
I have a theory. I understand being frustrated with Achilles but I think we’re missing something. This is a whole new brotherhood with hardly any support. He had to act fast to make a foothold in the region and he had something to prove. After the death of his family he got desperate, rushing to get pieces of Eden without researching them enough and aligning themselves with gangs that went too far
Ubisoft is an entity that entices you in for a big hug with promises of comfort and happiness and then giving you the biggest gut punch full of bugs to punish you for letting your guard down for the hopes of a good game.
They were pretty much worst. They became more focused on their revolution more than the Creed, leading them to unknowingly disregard them. Examples can include their twisted experiment on former Russian Princess Anastasia, leading Nikolai Orelov to defect and help her escape.
I know it's hasn't happened....yet. But my head-canon is during the mid-1600's Swedish and Dutch assassins/allies interacted with the Sasquehannock/Minqua tribes as they established their colonies down the Delaware river. They even helped them fend off an army from Maryland before heading back to Europe. And in the 2000's a woman of North European descent travelled from Amerika to Sweden as a newly initiated assassin.
Rogue Spoiler I can't believe they were going to poison New York. I get they were desperate but still it didn't cross their minds that the public would get affected as well. At least with the earthquakes the Assassins didn't know the artifacts weren't Pieces of Eden.
The Colonial Brotherhood was too arrogant to see its course, and they kinda deserved their downfall - Al Mu'alim, Ezio and Arno's brotherhoods are by far my favourite
Eh, Arno's Brotherhood were mostly scumbags except for Mirabeau and Bellec. They were more focused on rules and politics rather than the threat of Germain. Arno was justified in acting on his own, regardless of whether he broke the rules or not
I like to think that Ezio's later influence (where he actually breaks the Creed several times in Revelations) is the reason why the Colonial Brotherhood is so bad
Shay is such a good character and Rouge is one of the best games in terms of the story due to how mature it is. As for (JUST) Conner, I like how while he had a chip on his shoulder that helped to keep him and others in check
Right now, Ubisoft is the modern day Colonial Brotherhood. We the AC fans became their Shay Cormac. One wrong decision after another from the Ubi higher ups. Sad to see this beloved franchise now only praised for it's golden days.
The Colonial brotherhood as a creed are not weak but they are the most ignorant. They should have clocked a pattern from when shay came back with his story. It happened in Haiti but Achilles pulled the mentor bs thinking it could slide.
Achilles is the second-worst mentor ever (second only to Abbas Sufyan, but still slightly better than Al Muallim)... But Adewalé shouldn't be in the thumbnail as a colonial assassin, as: 1- he was not a colonial assassin, he was rather the mentor of the Caribbean assassins, as he took over after Ah Tabai passed away. 2- he was a great mentor; a man who talked the talk and walked the walk. He freed people along his career in the brotherhood, and he himself was once in bondage and freed himself. He is literally an embodiment of the creed.
@@genshinbowser4992 It's not that they forgot it's that we didn't spend enough time with him or the rest to be able to understand them. If the game was way longer or had a sequel which leads to Shay being hunted by Connor and Arno it would have been incredible and universally acclaimed for its intricate overarching narrative but alas. We literally had one mission, a tutorial and then Lisbon happens. You can't blame fans for thinking the story is bad, it moves so fast they made the characters seem like one dimensional villians with little redeeming qualities if any. Making the ending feel unearned and seem stupid to be brutally honest.
@triton5336 true I agree with you on rouge's story but at the same time this game came out after black flags a whole 2 years after 3, which Achilles spent the whole game not only regretting his actions but still grieving his family.
Yoooo this is interesting. Imagine if Connor had a second game though. Imagine how the war of 1812 would be like from his perspective. And how the American brother hood continue from there.
Not sure why you keep bringing up the gangs or them having connections with other groups as a uniquely bad thing? Did you not play AC2 or Brotherhood? The Italian Brotherhood was more of an alliance between whores, thieves, and thugs than an order of assassins. Ezio was the only active assassin for decades from his father dying to him personally recruiting and training more of them more than 30 years later. Nobody else even owned a hidden blade.
I'm just gonna say it. Of course the Colonial Assassins were the worst and had the biggest downfall. It's the American Assassins. And this is coming from an American before anyone tries to @ me lol I'm sorry but we love to think our country is hot shit when it just simply is not.
Wait doesn't that mean Connor is the last assassin in America since the brotherhood is just a mere shadow of their former glory after Shay pretty much kills all the remaining assassin there
If the Borgia's Italian Templars where the worst of the Order then the Colonial Brotherhood are their Assassin counterparts in the worst within the Order. Though out of the 2 the Borgia's where far worse.
The Brotherhood of AC black flag was so annoying to me, idc that they redeemed themselves at the end they were so weak despite having a lot of numbers and couldn't deal with anything
I believe that the French brotherhood is the worst but the colonial(American) brotherhood was semi worst because Connor was the only one who could keep it together
Creed creed creed, wah. What’s better? A thousand dead and the assassins secure a literal god’s death trinkets? Or a thousand dead and the templars have control of it instead?
This is why the brotherhood in the United States were weaker. Those assassins strayed so far from the tenants and the reform commandments Altair wrote for the future generation. For that they were unprepared to fight them and losing the war against them. If the American brotherhood embrace their rules and Altair's reformation, Desmond life as a assassin would have been different, but without the stagnation Desmond wouldn't stop both the Templars and sum disaster.
I don't think Ubisoft (or whoever did this) needed to make Hitler part of the lore. I'm a WASP so I can't speak too much on this but "gamifying" a horrible figure like that seems very unnecessary and a little weird. Otherwise I love the lore behind this game and it all makes sense.
I just see the assassins order as a legion of idiots who are carried by a few good leaders. Because the pattern is always templars have an area that assassins win but by the next period that area is lost.
I personally didn’t like ac rogue at all, Shay and Achilles definitely could’ve talked it out but Shay jumps to betraying the brotherhood and being a Templar and Achilles refused to listen even tho at the end of the game he acknowledges he was wrong. Just feels like it all happened for nothing
I hate achilles he ruined the assassin's When I saw Connor leave to find his father it made my day. I don't care that he lost his family He was their mentor their leader, he shouldn't lead the assassin's until he accepted that his family is gone and to start using is head again Then he used Connor who was naive before Haytham and charles Lee death and wanted revenge on haytham after he shot him My opinion
