In Riverclan's defense, Riverstar literally hated having any kind of interaction with all of the other clans, even going as far as to skip out on gatherings, so at least they're consistent.
it's strange because Thunderclan are known to be "honorable" and they "follow the rules" and yet Thunderclan broke more rules then all the other clans combined!
Yes we aren't shown that, but that's the problem. The fact that the authors don't show anything is a problem. It's the same as with Mary Sues. Author shows you no reason for which this character should be lovable, yet they state they are loveable. You don't have to make whole book arc about it, but having main characters listen to conversations around the camp or on gatherings, in which it is shown to us that others are rule breakers etc. Small things can go a long way! Show don't tell is the rule and authors don't follow it.
:( RiverClan could be so interesting and threatening because they’re so well-fed and protected. They should be the biggest Clan, logically. Not to mention they could start throwing their weight around considering how many advantages they have over the other Clans. Imagine WindClan and ThunderClan having to grudgingly unite against them.
I know I'm very late to the party but I really like the thought of riverclan cats being great antagonists. They can swim out of the lake making it so no one can smell them approach and no one can follow them back to their clan, they're always healthier so they'd have that natural advantage, and the body mass would be good in a close quarters battle. Not to mention the thought of riverclan cats dragging other cats into the water to drown them is terrifying
Quick summary of the Clans: Windclan: smol quick kitties Riverclan: cute fat cats Thunderclan: bossy brave bois Shadowclan: edgy things that do edgy stuff Skyclan: Those ones with weird names that showed up halfway through and that everyone just kinda tolerates
Agreed, especially with *fair.* All the rules in the gorge benefitted both Skyclan and cats that visited, Skyclan had valid reasons to turn down helping cats, AND as of yet they've never started a fight they weren't antagonized into. Definitely a far cry from the other clans.
My descriptions of the Clans: ThunderClan - Courage and Strength WindClan - Speed and Grace ShadowClan - Stealth and Secrets RiverClan - Skill and Pride SkyClan - Fair and Resilient
For me: Thunderclan: Honor and Courage Windclan: Speed and Resilience Riverclan: Grace and Swimming Shadowclan: Secrecy and Pride Skyclan: Welcomingness and craftiness
I had one friend whose reasoning for having Riverclan as a favorite was this: "Well, yeah, nothing happens there. That's kind of the point. I want to live in a clan where I'm fat and happy and I'm not getting killed. I may not be interesting, but I'd be comfortable." Like, their reasoning was that they wanted a life untainted by plot, however boring it might be, and I can kinda get that.
5:11 you know moonkitti's a really talented artist but she doesn't show it all that often but here you can see an example of her raw skill with this excellent ivypool drawing, it's really just plain beautiful.
I tweeted this a while ago, but since it's relevant here - times each clan in the Silent Thaw is mentioned by name according to my Kindle app’s search feature: StarClan: 390 ThunderClan: 219 ShadowClan: 91 SkyClan: 74 WindClan: 27 RiverClan: 9
Thunderclan: The place all the drama happens Shadowclan: Edgy cats who just want to be edgy together Windclan: The track team Riverclan: practically fish Skyclan: Tree climbers wOw
I’d like SkyClan to have some other ability, like great rock climbing or something like that (even stronger paws, etc). I know they’ve got some of that but I’d like it a bit more exaggerated, since most cats can climb trees.
riverclam queen: hm what should i name this kit riverclam queen: * touches le kit. * riverclam queen: ah, yes this kit is soft and shall be named softkit because thats original. softkit: i require milk, mother.
Real cats are NOT nocturnal. They are crepuscular: most active at dawn and dusk, which usually matches their routine in Warriors, though they should probably take more naps during the day.
@@silverfire1248 Sorry if ur joking- I think you might be- But just in case your not, Bluestar had the privilege of a leader, and got granted 9 lives by StarClan
Every clan in 10 words or less Thunder clan: Every main character ever. River clan: We swim. That's it. Mistystar told us to do nothing. Shadow clan: Spooky scary skeletons: Cat edition! Wind clan: *W E S P E E D* Sky clan: half the fandom doesn't know about them. Because they new. Starclan: *stares at arging cats and does nothing until its bad* Oc clans: were all involved (most of the time)
I wish that the hunters would start portraying the clans in a more morally ambiguous light, you know, not making shadowclan the go to bad guy clan when there is nothing to support that they were ever evil before brokenstar, or making thunderclan so high and mighty and honerable, I think it would be interesting to have a book like a novella set in the past or something, where all the other clans were trying to fight off thunderclan bc they were trying to take over everything bc they thought they deserved it Also make windclan less of jerks
I wished that the third protagonist for the broken code was a RiverClan apprentice instead of Bristlefrost. ThunderClan has had a cat POV in every series and I would like one arc without a thunderclan POV.
DancingPath I remember back when I was reading arcs 2 and 3, RiverClan was my favorite clan, maybe bc I liked Crookedstars promise, Stonefur and Silverstream, but the lack of RiverClan made me not like it anymore bc you can’t have an opinion on anything that doesn’t feel like it exists.
But!!!!! How else will we get to hear about all the amazing things ThunderClan does!!!!! /s I totally agree with you, one of the things I've loved about the recent arc is how it seems to be focusing more on fleshing out the other clans, though we sorely need a RiverClan centric one in the future
I always thought it was so funny when Graystripe came back how Leopardstar welcomed him back warmly when she literally put out a kill order on him when he rejoined ThunderClan during the latter half of the Prophecies Begin
River clan had so much potential. They are the only clan with cats that can swim (at least taught how to), they have a protective river around them to make them more mysterious, and they are actually pretty smart! Their dens are built for floating in case of a flood, and in feathertail's manga, it's shown the beautiful culture they have! The Erins really missed an opportunity with them.
I think in code of the clans it talked about how Riverclan cats were sometimes picked up by twolegs and taken back home and how some of them never returned. I always wanted to know more about that! And also drypaws!!
I always feel like at this point, none of them can be my favorite because it seems like living in *any* clan during the book series timeline would suck ShadowClan: ambition/depression gets them taken over by tyrannical leaders almost every series RiverClan: constantly starving because of water pollution/over-dependence WindClan: get chased out of their territory like . . . at least 3 series in a row ThunderClan: perpetual 2012 magical highschool RP, except all the other cats hate RPers SkyClan: sighs StarClan: "Sol tells them that their religion is stupid. He is 100% right!" I wonder what the clans would be like if they weren't in a book series for teenagers.
Хоть я безума от племени Теней чисто из за их особенностей и земелель , но тут я с вами на все 100 согласна . Сам факт того что племена враждующие срседи , хотя они могли быть дружными сосядями ужасен. Камон кланы могут жить без границ , устраивать меж племенные отношения , гостить друг у друга , но им строго настрого было бы нельзя воевать . А зп могло быть типо полиции которое следило бы за исполнением воинского кодекса...
WindClan was actually pretty powerful. Under the rule of Tallstar (AKA best WindClan leader), the clan seemed peaceful and only fought when they needed to be. Albeit under the rule of Onestar, everything went more rough. He clan was being taken advantage of and Onestar began to change that by upping his clan’s hostility. They fought fiercely in the tunnels but of course, big, tough, lion, man had to scare them away because, ya know, plot points. So the main thing I’m saying is, WindClan is pretty resilient and tough.
Thunder Clan: Mary sue clan Wind clan: Sassy teen clan Shadow Clan: Edgy clan River Clan: Feesh clan 🐟 Sky clan: Unique (QUIRKY) Clan (probably called the weirdos) Blood clan: Murder clan (or edgier clan) Dark clan: the clan that only lasted like a week 😋 Star clan: Clan that is useless and is only there to let you know that they see what will happen and do absolutely nothing about it nor do they give a crap 😊😅
Honestly this made me stan Riverclan more. The concept of water cats is great and they have fat asses and silky furs AND they hate interacting with any other clan. They're awesome.
What I think would be interesting for Riverclan is extra activities they do. While all the other clans are busy fighting, it would be interesting to see them acting more as a family unit than scouts, army, and leader. So, them doing activities such as a storytelling competition or being more laidback would be a nice change of pace
Genuinely !!! I like RiverClan in concept and it makes me sad that they’re so underutilized-their culture is cool (they swim, weave shiny things into the roofs of their dens, have different construction methods than the other Clans to withstand floods, etc.) but they’re so !! Not used!!!
Ikr! The main reason they're not used is because they don't share a border with ThunderClan, the protagonist Clan. RiverClan is the best, they are so chill and unique
@@sorreldislikespotatoes9882 personally my favorite Clan overall is ShadowClan, but RiverClan is very close to that spot and it has a very special place in my heart-I mean hell, I once ran a successful RiverClan rp group and it was a TON of fun, so I’ll always love it I think.
Wow, no mention of my boys 'Bloodclan'. One of them just one shots the basically immortal main villan of the whole arc. I especially love how they only show up for like the last two chapters and the tact on prologue. It really makes you not want to stop reading the series there and find a video 10 years later talking about there being like 6+ arcs that I haven't heard of.
I thought Riverclan was the best because it was left out so much, honestly it seems way more mysterious than ShadowClan ever did. We know that a lot of evil(ish) cats stem from there, Hawkfrost being the main one. You could technically call MapleShade a Riverclan villain, since all of her problems literally come from riverclan being how it is. Also, what i think is one of the most thought out and realistic leaders (CrookedStar) comes from there. Crookedstar has human like emotions that make him insanely interesting. Most of the other cats manage to get over things so quickly that most of the deaths are forgotten. The death of his mate and kits plagues Crooked for the rest of his life, and the guilt of his mother's death with always be there on him. He's one of the most in depth warriors characters and I'm proud they gave him to Riverclan.
In the dawn of the clans, where Clear Sky was essentially the leader of that Thunderclan would rule in the new prophecy, they focused a lot on tree climbing
River clan is my favorite for these reasons: -Crookedstar’s promise -Rainflower -never mentioned (always waiting for something juicy to happen So... Yeah, those would be my reasons.
The clans are never consistent, and even as a kid I really didn’t understand what clans were the “good guys” and which were the “bad guys.” In conclusion, they’re all bad except for thunderclan, the Mary Sue of clans.
I just figured that Shadowclan is true evil, Riverclan is Chaotic Neutral, Windclan is Lawful Neutral, and Thunderclan is stupid. Now, as of the last book I read (AVOS 3) Thunderclan is True Neutral, Windclan is Chaotic Good, Riverclan is Chaotic Neutral, and Shadowclan are probably cowards???
They do have pretty consistent traits though. Thunderclan are the special cats, Riverclan is kind of chill if you dont tick them off,Windclan is overall pretty moody and Shadowclan is filled with Cats that are too prideful for their own good. And while Thunderclan may not be bad when it comes to their overall actions inside the book, they have crap characters :)
i want a book with a riverclan main character that learns their clan history and understands that riverclan doesn't like conflict but then becomes deputy and challenges the norm and strives to make friends from other clans. it could give an opportunity to expand upon their culture and maybe add new exciting elements and riverclan-only holidays and just!!! something!!! please!!!! hunters i want this so bad!!!
The reason RiverClan is my favorite clan was because of how it was portrayed in Crookedstar's Promise. In that book RiverClan had a very strong sense of community amongst clanmates and their lifestyle was described so well that it was easy to imagine yourself being a part of it. Basically RiverClan was written really well in one Super Edition so now even though it's 6 arcs later and they've done nothing since, I still can't help but love it
People making there ocs: THIS ONE WILL LIVE IN RIVERCLAN AND HAVE A FORBIDDEN LOVE WITH SOMEONE IN SKYCLAN ALSO SHE HAS POWERS AND IS A MEDICINE BUT SHE CAN FIGHT VERY WELL! SHE ALSO SOME HWO IS A LEADER TOO
Bruh I have a Riverclan medicine cat, but she ends up in the dark forest bc she kept her leader in a coma so that her sister(the deputy) could become leader.
My oc is a god with the memories of all cats every and also can 1v100 badgers and win and has the powers of all of the 3 and is thunderclan obviously and his one flaw is that he is to perfect and to many she cats are attracted to him
There kinda used to be something like that on the old site. It's a lot more primitive but the quiz at least didn't ask what your favorite color or prey was.
I like RiverClan BECAUSE it's forgotton. Like at any point in the books, if it's getting boring or too dramatic and you just want to pause for a second, go to the allegiances page for RiverClan. Now pick any cat with an interesting name. Imagine a story involving them that has to do with the Clans' current scenerio. Moonpool frozen? Held hostage? It's like writing a fanfic but it could very well be canon and now this character has a story for you to be reminded of every time they're mentioned at a gathering or patrol. Also, imagine a group of RiverClan apprentices looking across the lake at anything interesting while eating minnows like popcorn.
Moonkitti: to even be involved in a fire One of my book characters named Nigtin: *has flashbacks of parents and siblings dying in a fire while he has to watch after half of his face getting burnt off* ...........
My goal is to compile everything I can dig up on RiverClan and make a major character for a fan story and have the Clan play a major role because like Imagine a RiverClan cat, teamed up with those from other Clans, teaching the resourceful skills RiverClan is said to have I wish they portrayed more of this fact, and more of the dynamic. The best we got was Crookedstar's story
So basically Thunderclan: thinks they know best (clan rating: 5/10 my opinion ) Shadowclan: sits in the dark corner (7/10) Riverclan: does nothing (3/10) Windclan: was weak, now buff (6/10) Skyclan: this is my house now get rekt (9/10) Bloodclan: dead lmfao (1/10) Warriorclan: we know how the books work (10/10) Starclan: NO stop doing that we didnt allow you to have babies and be inlove with that man or walk there ( -1 / 10 )
I'm right there along with you, buddy. RiverClan to me are kind of like awkward hipster kids that stand in the corner of the room like hermit crabs during a big House Party that the cool kids forgot they invited them to.
I find riverclan interesting despite their lack of development as a clan, especially with their Medicine cats and half clan relationships. Thunderclans medicine cats are a complete mess tbh, like they all had something going on that pushed them into being a medicine cat while being reluctant, with Featherwhisker being the exception. Mudfur became a medicine after having a mate and kits. He had the life of a warrior but chose to become a medicine cat. Mothwing had also became a warrior before becoming medicine cat, only to lose faith in the ones she was supposed to believe in the most, Star clan. Brambleberry became the mother figure Crookedstar needed and is probably one of the best medicine cat characters in my opinion. Riverclan also seems to be the the most involved with half clan relationships next to Thunderclan. You have Mapleshade x Appledusk, Fallowtail x Reedfeather, Bluestar x Oakheart, Silverstream x Graystripe and Gorsetail x Beechfur. Most of the time half Riverclan kits tend to become riverclan warriors. So riverclan is that half clan and interesting medicine cats clan where a medicine cat had kits without breaking the code. They still need more perspective in the series tho.
In my opinion, all of the clans are pretty amazing and should get a lot more attention than they've been getting. They had some potential arc 4... but then they blew it with making Firestar the fourth cat. Also, I wanna know about everyone's quirks and personalities! Really, it would be more simple to have, as you suggested, on big clan that goes about business indifferently.
i agree, but that's kinda the problem. it isn't explored enough by the authors. I think the Erins should make some good characters there, maybe a POV character. It has so much potential. (also, iconic profile picture)
@@sleepystal I would love to see an arc only from RiverClan's perspective, but seeing how much they seem to kiss ThunderClan's a** I don't think it'll ever happen.
Okay so here’s what I got Thunderclan: Mary Sue as hell Riverclan: Best concept without execution Windclan: Anorxia and Anixety as a clan Shadowclan: Evil because sneaky Skyclan: Weird yet interesting Do tell me if I missed anything
Warrior Cats Nerds: Uh actually you missed something... Me: NERRRD! In all seriousness I've never read the series but I love Moonkitti's series and videos on it
The clans WindClan: GOTtA Go FASt ThunderClan: We're the most important thing in the universe RiverClan: Oo graceful sexy cats ShadowClan: MMm we NauGHty and edgy SkyClan: What are even good names?
I know there’s a lot of these... but here’s mine. WindClan- Skinny speeds ShadowClan- Edgy beans RiverClan- Chonky fishes ThunderClan- Average cattos SkyClan- Weird fluffs StarClan- Ghosty spoops Your welcome.
[Standing up for Windclan] TO BE FAIR, at some point in arc 2 or something the two-legs were invading their territory(Cutting stuff down I think? It's hard to remember), and it was hard to catch anything. On top of that their wild cats and most of the clans are skinny-ish anyway. They had a *harder-ish* time.
Cats are actually crepuscular, not nocturnal. ^^ So if the warrior kitties had accurate sleep cycles, they'd take little naps throughout the day and night (especially the day) and go on patrols mainly at dusk and dawn. Sharing tongues might be good in the late afternoon before sunset, because it's usually warmest then and we all know cats love warm weather :)
at this point, they just follow the stories of characters related to old characters. nobody in riverclan are like that except Mistystar who is a leader, and Mothwing, a medicine cat. also RiverClan is my favorite how dare you maybe they're my favorite because they are like me: that person who hangs out with a friend group, but provides nothing to the group or any of their conversations. also I could probably eat fish but a mouse? no
i guess this shows how bland i am because Riverstar is my favorite character too lol...... Also this made me think of the Clans as a friend group: Thunderclan- the popular kid who used to be a bullied new kid. so basically everybody hated them, now they like them, but they kind of became arrogant... Shadowclan- the jerk who probably beats everyone up and says trash talk to the other friends Windclan- the nervous, scrawny kid who is one of the kids that got beat up, but he doesn't anymore Riverclan- the extra guy who says a funny remark now and then but pretty much just eats fish Skyclan- the newest friend, unique and weird. probably easy to trick and maybe the comic relief guy Every other group like the Tribes and BloodClan: the rival friend groups IDK why I wrote this it's just what I thought.
Star clan is the leader of the friend group. Funny and charasmastic, everyone loves them. But they are actually really stupid and arrogant and think they are better than everyone. But no one cares because they have airpods and money .
My favorite clan is shadowclan, and it always was. Despite all the things they did wrong (and they did a lot of things wrong lol) when Tigerstar 2 became leader, this clan became loyal, supportive. Supportive, because of the way the sheltered the rebels in "the broken code", and how they gave half of their territory to Skyclan. In my opinion, Thunderclan is the worst clan. They just like- they just sit around for the whole series and boss all the other clans around. No wonder shadowclan hates them.
Thunderclan: main character clan Windclan: fast clan with an unsettling obsession with rabbits Shadowclan: more like evilclan Riverclan: Crookedstarclan Skyclan: Tribe of Rushing Water: helpless idiots that I really wish would get hit by a meteor
I giggled so hard at Crookedstarclan. It's definitely mostly about him because he's the most memorable followed by Mistystar and Leopardstar. We just know leaders and that's it
"Crookedstarclan" NOW WAIT JUST ONE MINUTE, I TOTALLY HAVE OTHER REASONS FOR LIKING RIVERCLAN LIKE- like..... fuck i only like Riverclan because of Crookedstar....
1:29 Strength, was the tunnel cats I think, the strength was the cats who dug the tunnels which are important in Tallstar's book, but they lose this quality. :(
I would've labeled Skyclan as Tough and Resourceful, because you just see so much more examples of them demonstrating these qualities in the books. Heck, I might even label them as Independent and Resoureful, because almost every solution Skyclan has to their problems demonstrates one of these qualities! And also , I see you point Moonkitti. MAKE RIVERCLAN MORE INTRESTING!And for Starclan's sake, kill off Mistystar in some tragic scene that eventually makes Reedwhisker retire from the deputy position. Or just usem that scene and it's aftermath to DEVELOP Reedwhisker's character!
About the Thunderclan suddenly becoming good at climbing trees thing, that was in Omen of the stars, i think 2nd book especially, where they train apprentices to climb trees, and later use it in the battle against Shadowclan! Reading that, i was like: Uhm, isnt this supposed to be Skyclans thing...??
Thunderclan: Gryffindor Shadowclan: Slytherin Riverclan: Ravenclaw Windclan: Hufflepuff Do you guys think these are correct. I still can't decide if riverclan and windclan should switch with Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff
No, they shouldn’t switch because RiverClan is both introverted and wise, as is RavenClaw. What does WindClam have in common with RavenClaw? Nothing, they’re just weak and there for plot convenience as is Hufflepuff.
Me: Thinking about how much I adore Riverclan and Crookedstar as my favorite leader Moonkitty: *I'ma ruin this bois whole career* (This was a joke please don't take offence to this I love Moonkitti's video's and I'm subscribed)
This is actually why Crookedstar's Promise is my FAVORITE warriors book. We got such an intimate and distinctive perspective on RiverClan culture. I personally believe it's the Clan with the most potential to have unique skillsets and attributes to display but it is CONSTANTLY overshadowed by the other Clan's plot armor. A lot of my fav RiverClan cats in the original series and CP were great - Crookedstar, Oakheart, Stormfur, Shellheart, Brambleberry, etc. but even they were only relevant because they ultimately had some connection to Crookedstar or Oakheart. RiverClan may be the least represented, but I think it's more a waste of potential than a result of the clan being uninteresting.
The cat gangs *(Minor spoiler warning from power of three, dark river)* Bloodclan & Shadowclan- Edgy cats Riverclam- Well, the name says it all. *Fish.* Thunderclan- The clan of mixed blood and the clan that held firestar the mighty Skyclan- Squirrels that spend wayyy too much time climbing trees Starclan- dead cats The dark forest: edgy dead cats Darkclan- Not even a clan, sorry Lionpaw + Heatherpaw The tribe of rushing water- The tribe is not a clan, *therefore it is not nearly as great as us clan cats.* (Clan perspective) *Can we all agree there is one attribute all the clans (Not dark forest, starclan, or the tribe) Share, an obsession of forbidden love?* *Edit: Sorry for commenting years late-*
i like riverclan for 3 reasons: one is because crookedstar’s promise is my favourite book in the franchise, second is because most of the times they do show up (albiet minor) it always feels nice (i dont remember anything past OOTS though) and third is that we dont get any ammunition to hate them, shadowclan is the resident “villian” clan who seems to always mess things up, windclan is a bunch of jerks and very petty, thunderclan we just need to get out of more, skyclan is fine and starclan is dumb
I want the next arc to be taken place in the other clans and not just thunderclan or have anything to really do with thunderclan. I wanna see more of the others i hate thunderclan
Fish stics Skyclan is the worst, I’m perfectly fine with something that doesn’t involve thunderclap, As long as sky clan is ripped from the FACE OF THE EARTH!
I just imagine the clans like the houses in Harry Potter... ~The underdog/best/noble group: Gryffindor/Thunderclan. ~The evil//rival/naughty group: Slytherin/Shadowclan. ~The last/"worst"/fan-favorite group: Hufflepuff/Windclan. ~The underrated/needed more development/bluest group: Ravenclaw/Riverclan. So my FAVORITE clan/house is Riverclan/Ravenclaw, even though they're not even close to the BEST. Although I would love if they were both improved.
There are so many cats in the series now that I can't remember the deputy of some of the clans. Also the family trees are very big now. Firestar is a great grand pa now to lionblazes kits who I have no idea who they are. Also when you see how many cats are alive in the books, there are even more dead cats, and when dead cats die they go to super starclan
Riverclan should DEFINITELY take over the lake! I am so totally writing or drawing something about that, my new project. Thank you for the idea moonkitti!
