Might dig out my old drumsticks because of this guy. whatever this guy makes vids about, I just watch it and get interested. so cool it's funny. bet he never lost a drum student. cheers, wade!
@@cubeography & Simplylively: *Do it!* 😀👍 I haven't played the drums in many years either, in favour of bass and guitar, but I wanna somehow get back into it some time soon, too! 😁
I'm Australian, and I've been an student drummer and percussionist for a decade. I saw the "The Biggest Cymbals I could find" video in my recommended one day -- back when the drum thing didn't exist -- and I was hooked. Instantly. I quickly found myself rewatching your entire catalogue of videos on the Drum Thing, and then it turns out you have another, bigger channel with over 1 million subscribers?? Where you review nuggets? AND HEADPHONES!?!? You're my favourite RU-vidr of all time.
no idea this was such a terrible kit, even as a producer I didnt hear the horror. Amazing job! You're also such a good drummer, like you say, the better you are the less the gear matters
Just in general Wade is great at showing how accessible things can be and breaking down barriers that are mirages. The fact he uses his talent and knowledge for that and to be a memelord is one of my favorite things on the Internet
Wow I'm surprised that you are able to find out about this brand. As a Chinese drummer that has played a Jinbao set for 5 years let me talk a little more about it. This company mainly reproduces the design of Pearl drums. This series that you own is their lowest model that costs about 800RMB in China brand new. It is basically a carbon copy of the earlier Pearl Export series. They come with some cheap white copper cymbals that sound more like a China than they sound like crashes and a pair of 12 in HH that sounds like a big bell. Later on, Jinbao made a higher end line up copying the design of the Pearl Masterworks series and managed to replicate the suspension mounts pretty well. You will be surprised about the sound that those suspended toms make. They sound really nice with proper tuning. In addition, if you were to use some Gibraltar suspension mounts instead of sticking a stick through the shell, the entry level Jinbao doesn't sound half bad with decent tuning. The models sold in China after 2005 have really nice bearing edges, so the model they use for exporting might be the defective ones.
@@robertschnobert9090yeah that actually makes a lot of sense when you think about it. I'm fairly sure some Chinese music uses entirely different notation from the standardized style, so it would make sense that it could reflect in the instruments as well
dude you have entertained me into like over 500 dollars in headphones and a DAC, please stop doing things so my wallet will stop screaming like it's in a horror movie
You missed the point of this video, he just showed you that drums can be obtained cheaply with some extra effort to the details. Now go, get some used drums! :b
I have a Yamaha stereo and Bose bookshelf speakers that I got on ebay for around $200ish. Those old Bose speakers pack a punch. Sure, it's not audiophile headphones, but there is still a lot of clarity (depending on the input device). I've found the sound quality is better when I play from my Mac over HDMI. I have always sworn by Bose when it comes to surround because of the sheer clarity. Nowadays you have to pay an arm and a leg for anything new from Bose
The thing that angers me about bad beginner instruments is that it's so easy for beginners to think THEY sound like crap when it's their instrument that's holding them back. It's so evil. Edit: A lot of folks replying to me either ignoring or not noticing the word "bad".
Only with really, really bad instruments does that ever happen, this is just something that bad musicians say to make themselves feel better... AND that's literally what this video just proved.
I used to build drums professionally. I’m talking proper handmade stave snares that sound better than any factory garbage you’ve heard. My experience was that I just couldn’t get drummers to spend more than the materials I spent on the drums I built. I don’t know what relevancy that has to the video.
That's the problem with small scale production. Customers have the option to buy mass produced drums for cheap, so it's not easy to convince them that a snare could be worth 2k. The selling points are uniqueness that comes with custom builds, and the feel of supporting a local business.
So many low priced drums, with proper tuning, haeads and micd up sound killer. Don't have to spend 7k on the DW name. But if you choose to spend 7k. Go SONOR !
In this regard, i know practically nothing about drums, so what are the percs of a higher quality drum than a cheap one? I mean, in which appreciable way the higher quality is expressed?
@@fragra7186 It's mostly hardware and bearing edge quality. Good lugs give you better feel when tuning, and floating Tom mounts make them sound bigger. A good snare wire mechanism let's you find just the right spot for the tension, without drifting afterwards. I have also noticed that the kick drum sound can be noticeable different between manufacturers. Dw kicks are punchy, Ludwig kicks are full and resonant, Tama kicks are clacky, Pearl is something between dw and Ludwig, Yamaha is very middle of the road but good quality. This is just something I've gathered over 15 years of obsessing about drums, I have no idea about the science behind it. Maybe OP can chime in.
I like how you’re demonstrating the silly songs that you play on your stream, and you still play a proper bossa nova (probably, my knowledge of rhythms is questionable). Love ya vids
This just shows how accessible drums are. You spend any money on it and you take care of it properly and tune it it will sound good. With a lot of other cheap instruments like guitars, basses, and God forbid violin they are actually completely unplayable no matter how much effort you put into it. With drums you only need good sticks and heads for it to feel right and sound good.
Yeah, I saw a bunch of comments in here talking about how "that's just something bad musicians tell themselves" but it really depends on the instrument. Of course, a bad player can make even the most beautiful violins screech so bad your ears want to curl up and die, so it goes both ways.
TBH, cheap guitars are entirely playable and often even sound pretty good, because most of the tone comes from the amp anyway. Better guitars look nicer and often feel better to play such that you can play better on them, but I've literally gone on stage and played a $60 yamaha pacifica from Costco, and a lot of the smaller shittier brands actually produce surprisingly good necks and fretboards on things under a hundred dollars. Meanwhile, my Pearl exports were $3000 back in 2003, with which you could buy a semi-custom guitar made of endangered woods. As much as I love collecting and building and rebuilding guitars, the difference between a hundred dollar guitar and a two thousand dollar one isn't something you'd be able to recognize by ear.
Cheap guitars are fucking amazing, cheap basses are also amazing. If you put in the effort to set either of them up then they will play great with no additional costs even.
With guitars, so long as the neck is OK, everything else is fixable. Yamaha Pacificas are the classic example. Incredible first guitars because the necks are just brilliant, better than some higher-priced brands. Drop some decent pick-ups in one and you've got a beast.
- Has great knowledge of both the history and practical aspects of drumming - Owns many cymbals and cares a great deal about their sound, construction and origins - Runs a RU-vid channel about drums and a regular drumming stream with professional recording equipment And I quote: "I don't even know what that is. It sounds cromulent." Hilarious XD
I've known about floatplane for ages because of LTT/Luke and always wondered why I never heard more about it from actual creators. Although it is kinda funny you're the only consistent streamer there (other than WAN show probably) it seems to have worked out, and I genuinely wish all the best for everyone involved because Twitch fuckin BLOWS.
I mean, the reason that you've never heard about it from other creators is that it has a pretty small userbase, so few people actually engage with it in any way. It only really still exists because of Linus' ego.
@@iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013 Ego? what the fuck are you talking about lmfao. its literally 40 percent of LTT's net income... Plus LOTS of other creators are on there, like forgotten weapons.
I’m glad someone else realizes how cheap the exports have gotten. My first introduction to them was a 90s kit back in highschool and I loved them. We replaced it with a Stage Custom and I loved that kid but I wondered why we didn’t get a new export. Then I played on a new export at a music store and realized why. My college studio kit is an old beat up stage custom and it sounds and works miles better than a new export
What's funny is that jinbao is also known for making some of the best budget low brass out there, though not the stuff that's actually labeled jinbao. They wholesale to companies based elsewhere are those companies do their own QCing and may have slightly different specs from the base model, but they're all made in the same factory. Notable brands are Wessex and Mack Brass. Have one of their euphoniums, personally, actually great value for money, compared to a used YEP 321.
Only found dank pods a bit ago, maybe a week or so but oh man your vibes are so good found myself watching through all the backlogs of This channel garbage time and a good chunk of dankpods itself, keep it up man your doin great work
Love this man, I got put as a bass player when I wanted to play drums so I was drafted to hate guitarists, but my dad plays bass so we have nice sessions, but I might invest of some dingus drums as one of my favorite channels here tends to do, I appreciate all the knowledge you've given us, love all your channels
I still like to believe in my heart of hearts that the twenty One Pilots (the bootleg one)snare is actually one of their snares that somehow got lost and sold
i am currently the “proud” owner of a 20 dollar facebook marketplace “4 piece” (5 piece with one of the rack toms mysteriously missing for absolutely no reason) “jazz kit”(my only cymbal is a vintage zildjian ride that i “borrowed” from my school and decided to put the boom into the vacant tom mount and wedge it with duct tape and zipties so it doesn’t move) that is unironically better than this even without any head replacements (and also makes sense to use and is from a brand that isn’t just chinese no-name)
The drum stream was so fun to watch and listen to in twitch, it's so unfortunate I can't pay for Floatplane rn. Keep it up, though! I'll join the chat again sometime soon
Jinbao is a giant manufacturer of brass instruments. They pump out a ton of instruments, then American and European companies inspect some of the stock, buy them, then have their own technicians fix them up to a higher standard and put their own stamp on them for a western market. They're called "Stencil Brands", and they're a substantial part of the market, especially for tubas and other low brass, as your other options are likely to be breaking the bank for a new(ish) horn built somewhere other than China, or buying much older and/or beat up instruments for prices similar to the Stencil Brands and having to deal with potential issues of age. Point being, they make a lot of stuff, and the market is weird as a result.
@@arterial4756 my low mid-tier potato from 2014 will not handle the 3, so I'm sticking to the one that works on it. And most importantly, I find it pretty fun ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Man, that black export tom bought me back. My first 'nice' kit was a second hand 80s export in black and it was a BEAST. Loved that thing to bits and it served me so well for about a decade before I sold it because I didn't have space to store it. I regret selling that thing to this day...
Dank taught us the good news, of how incredible the cymbal industry is and always has been. And now we're learning the bad news, of how deteriorated and decrepit the drum industry has become
This is my favourite channel on RU-vid man, thanks for all the content, you're a hard working bloke. Great idea splitting off into so many different things, all of them you're super passionate about. Really making most of the opportunity to live the dream mate, you deserve it
I don’t mind that you didn’t focus the camera properly when shouting out a fantastic product that you have depended on both in your student days and in your professional career. It wasn’t much of a missed opportunity, and you still gave some visibility to your favorite drum head brand; I don’t think you wasted it. Seriously well done, myself and many others fully respect the Evans EMAD bass drum head with its quick change inner padding that negates the need for a daggy pillow in your bass drum. Or sweat shirt. Or sheets. The list goes on. I’m glad I paused the video for this. Have a good one Wade. You rock.
When I was 13 or 14 me and my guitar player saved all of our money and bought a used (and white lol) Pearl export kit from the 80s. It was in incredible shape for its age and sounded amazing. Fast forward 13 years later and I STILL have that kit and it gets used frequently. I recorded albums and gigged on that thing for years and it still looks and sounds great. I’ll never get rid of that kit, it’ll be retired soon to live out its days just looking pretty
The saddest part is that when you were describing all the worst parts of the jin bao set, (loose snare settings, lightweight toms, etc.) those were all the faults of my middle school professional drumsets- the ones I learned to play on, (but mostly just how to wrangle those issues so I didn't get yelled at for no reason) Edit: 5:13 holy shit that oooks pretty much exactly like the snare i used in middle school, aothough i never really was taught how to play it well
I have never had a good drumset in my life and I have been playing for years, so it is always nice to see these kits sounding great. The one thing that gets me is I am just not good at tuning and I can't get mine in good shape. My toms are always ringing, it is a mess. One day I will spend time tuning up the drums, hopefully my results are half as good as this
Muffling is usually the ticket for ringing toms! Some tape is fine, or moongels, or rings cut from old heads. Or you can be fancy and put cotton balls inside the toms.
This is another great example of how to get into a hobby. Your don't need top of the line, you start out where you can and upgrade as you go. Using cheap drums but good heads is a great example, same with getting good pedals.
True. I started out with a 2nd hand Sonor 5-piece kit from a local church that sold it because they've upgraded to a new one. Replaced the heads with new Remos, and replaced the squeaky pedals with Iron Cobras and it's great. Gave it away to my cousin though because I've upgraded to a Tama kit.
This is a brilliant message, and you've made me want to finally put new heads on the $250 kit I got in 2010 that I've just continued to thrash on all these years. The sticks bounce and the drums sound somewhat like they should so it's been good enough for me who's a complete amateur. New pedals and I'll fix the floor it's on too. Great video as always
It's quarter to 1 in the morning. Why am I here. Oh yeah, Australian upload times. Also, big fun. "One of the only regular streamers" I think you mean "The only regular stream" (But tbf linus and crew absolutely smash out regular vids)
I love the enthusiasm and passion! Like I can tell how much you love what you do and how much you love drumming! Idk if you have tried this or not but have you tried streaming on RU-vid? If you did try and it didnt work my bad I didnt know lol.
@@captainnurbles9169 there's some twitch VODs re-uploaded, I used to watch him on twitch, I'm meaning more for the newer viewers who isn't seeking that out to give them a taste of what they're missing out which would be a majority
I just found out a few hours ago that my uncle got diagnosed with cancer. He is like one of my favorite people on earth. I was about to lose it then my phone went off (almost 2 days late, shocker) and it was a video by Wade. This made my day. This was a flash of happiness on a bad day. Thank you.
I really love how Luke from Floatplane shouts you out all the time on the WAN Show, it really seems like you're the MVP for Floatplane right now Keep on truckin' 👍
the music at 9:55 sounds very nice. i managed to transcribe these words: ---------- lepu badam di hootsmith the bird shaadi and the hōtenklœr are looking straight head up bagin' smith friend leapa chiki shrine and she did allow me e-pe ekuli a smile she hit the flower in mexinimoho she hit the flower in mexinimoho she hit the flower in mexinimoho shaiiii-gaaa-laaaa
I had played that same 80's Export snare for a looong time myself! Even with the same Evans head with the lil' holes! 😀 I'd bought it from a friend in '88, and it had been part of a black Export kit just like yours, too! 😀 He also gave me a pair of Meinl 'Marathon' hi-hats, as seen in one of your previous videos 😁 Both in exchange for a pair of Maxwin (by Pearl) timbales, if I remember correctly 😊 Anyway, that snare actually sounded really good! Especially after I'd replaced the top hoop with a die-cast one 🙂 Happy New Year, mate! 😊💚🍾🥂🎉🎇🎶🍀 PS: I always have to chuckle when you bring up Cashies, as I'd worked for them for a year and a half once, here in NZ 😄
WE NEED SCIENTISTS TO MAKE IMMORTALITY MEDICINE OR SOMETHING BECAUSE I DEFINITELY NEED MORE OF THIS i mean whats not to love? hes an aussie dankman obsessed with cheap music playing nuggets and big dirtybuds and destroying stuff with bricks and green and the most flipping adorable snake like ever like we need to protect this guy at all costs
I know this isn’t drums, but you got me into my first set of audiophile cans. DT 770s, 32 ohm. wouldn’t have been able to without your explanations and funny videos. good on ya mate
I so enjoyed this. I started playing again as a diversion during the height of the pandemic--after a hiatus of almost 40 years. I didn't know if I would continue, so I bought a cheap Ashthorpe kit. It sounds terrible, but nobody hears it but me, and I have replaced all the tinny cymbals (with Zildjians and Sabians), the hi-hat hardware, and the kick pedal. It's fine, and it has quite literally maintained my sanity for the past 32 months of lockdown and retirement.
