@@airsir9559as a French Guy myself, i have absolutely no idea why this gundam and not another one, gundam isn't very popular in France but this bootleg is in every carrefour (French Walmart)
@@Noctis1665 from what I understand, the pilot of the dreadnought gundam, and its predecessor, the gundam hyperion, is french, as both is his surname and given name are
I enjoy building a "bad" model kit like that between new releases. They're fun to fix and paint, as you actually see a significant difference in quality once you're done.
I also really really agree! Bad kits are so much fun to put your time and skill into, it makes it feel more special than a modern Gunpla or model kit where all you have to do is build it. And no criticism to modern kits, I love the color separation and articulation of modern model kits. But bad kits are so fun to build! Also, static display models, like resin statues are a ton of fun to, of course if you have the money and materials to paint them up a little bit.
Even bad kits have their fun. They’re either unique in that they’re very different from the later improved versions, or they have no improved versions and they’re novel in that regard. And as everyone has said, they really test your skills and help hone them.
At least the old HG SEED kits was released back when there's no real standard for articulated Gunplas, and the overall limitations of the old days of Gunpla really shows. HG Tristan, on the other hand, used an outdated 2000s HG Alex mold and didn't put a single improvement to the old mold, eventhough it was released in 2017 💀💀💀
Thats why my Jagdpanther is in the box still whily my led version fm aerial is now complete. I love building but painting, especially larger surfaces is a pain in the ass.
I know so many military modelers that tell me that they don’t finish their kits and that they have multiple kits that are being worked on simultaneously and once in a while they actually complete a kit now and then. I’ve heard stories from some of the military modelers that they know other ones that don’t consider our hobby (Gunpla) as a real hobby. But yet I get lots of compliments from the military modelers that I know for the detail work that I do on my kits from seam line removal to painting my kits and panel lining accents, and the fact that I complete my model kits. So I guess it just depends on who you talk to, but I love all of the different talents of plastic models from Gunpla, model cars, military, sci-fi, resign, etc..... And I can learn a lot about modeling from each person and their specialities from painting, to adding polystyrene details or gap fillers, custom dioramas, etc...... It’s a great hobby and I have fun with it every weekend at my local Hobby Town.
11:54 those actually work pretty well with 30mm parts If you have those cylinder adapters that you get in action base 4 and 5, as well as the arms from 30mm effect parts, you can definitely get creative with those Dragoons 12:27 that means use a cradle adapter
Man even in 00s gundam HG kits were just terrible. Seed was mostly a miss (some destiny kits were passable) but even 00 was kinda trash sometimes (arche legs, lack of good color seperation)
There are plenty of early 2000s kits that still work perfectly in a modern gunpla collection. HGUC Guntank only needs paint for the cockpit, how many HGs even have those eh? HGUC Zaku 1 has double jointed arms and legs for great articulation, giving it better arm movement then most WFM kits. HGUC Z'Gok is still perfect as it is with just 2 stickers. HgUC Acguy has detailed inner frame bits like some old master grades had.
@@Matanumiyou forgot the wing kits from the mid 90s hell even the old Gundam leopard in 1/144 fell apart on me. That's a kit I would say avoid at all costs not worth the 800 yen it cost me.
Honestly if you wanna try experiencing some older kits that are actually surprisingly good even today, the old 1/100 NG Astray kits still hold up, considering they're essentially the blueprint for the All Gundam Project HG Astray kits. Heck to my knowledge it's the only way to get a model kit version of the Gold Frame Amatsu in 1/100 scale, not to mention the only times we saw the Mirage Frame in model kit form as well.
The 1/100 Seed No Grades are very decent. I’m collecting all of the Librarian Works kits from the splinter line of that series (VS Astray) and I really like the simplistic but solid builds
When the HG Dreadnought was released, I falsely predicted for a HG GuAiz will be made since they share the same leg. Nope.Only NG 1/144. Not even an MG, not even an NG 1/100. Y u do dis bandai?
@@First-Name_Last-Namewell I was hoping for Guaiz HGCE, since we got EA grunt unit but no ZAFT grunt unit for HGCE line yet. With the upcoming movie I hope they remember to make one.
For an old kit, the color separation is quite decent on this one. I have to disagree with the kit being "poorly designed" I'd say it is well designed. The dragoons are detachable, color separation is decent, that dragoon back pack being removable from the thruster back pack is a good design decision too. They could've given you a different back pack or not have that part separate from the dragoon pack, but they did anyway. It is unfair ranking old kits like you would on the later releases you could've cut it some more slack given it's age.
I agree. It’s like taking the vintage kits and comparing them to modern Gunpla. I think we should try looking at kits in both the time they were released in and in our current time. Comparing this to say, a WFM HG, isn’t really fair. The more and more Gunpla reviews I watch the more I notice that there’s not a perfect way to weigh and review Gunplas. I try not to buy kits based off of RU-vid reviews anymore, I just get what I think looks cool. Holding myself to the standard that Gunpla reviewers have doesn’t make me enjoy Gunpla, for some reason I have more appreciation for crappy old kits, or stuff like Volks or Wave the Five Star Stories kits. They don’t have to be perfect out of box, it’s partly what you do as a builder that makes it unique and perfect in your eyes. Reviewers videos and blogs are helpful, but if there’s a kit you want that everyone thinks is awful, just buy it if you really want to.
His reviews, like any other review, are based on his opinions. In his opinion, it's a horrible kit. Simple as. He also doesn't dig the 2022 Dom. But the complaints he had aren't issues for me. I don't care about pulling overly-crazy poses with it or that most of the parts are super old designs.I just like the overall look, so I bought one. If the things he dislikes don't bother you, then just disregard. If they do, then don't buy the kit.
@@arlangunadi8674 This kit at least has age as an excuse for some of its issues. The Tristan if I remember right was just a lazy rework of a kit that was already dated by that point.
It's a shame because this kit has a nice design, especially the legs. Too bad it's suffered bandai " neglected non main model kit syndrome." Which means if it's not main mobile suits, we will treat it like an unwanted children.
My main issue with this whole line is that the heads on some of the kits look very goofy and disproportionate. I think only the Astrays and the GATX Gundams managed to escape this.
I can deal with the HG00 line, but I have a lot of trouble going back to the old HG Seed line. The HGCE kits are such a gigantic improvement over them.
the proportion of this kit seems more accurate due to it's thicker limbs when compared to the HGCE Blue Frame 2nd L and the M1 Astrays . Also has a good beam saber effect part (vigorous).
@@cryogenictendency4565The red frame was reissued around 2018, which Mecha reviewed and so is basically the same kit as the original, and was slightly improved upon on the Battlelogue version (Red Frame Inversion) with a slight retool in the shoulders.
@@HarmonyEdge That was the "revive" 2013 mold of Astray Red Frame Flight unit/Astray Blue Frame 2nd L, developed into Sengoku Astray and re-tooled to Inversion. The OG 2004 ARF/ABF mold has 1 joint each for knee and elbow, with ball jointed thighs. Surprisingly, the single elbow joint works really well, and the shoulder joint is carried over to the 2013 mold. 2013 mold uses Double joints for elbow and knee joints. It also uses double ball ankle joints. The OG Astrays has the insane 2000s Zaku feet slippers joints, albeit a little bit weaker. The OG ARF also has flat metallic silver plating for the sword, which is much better than the white of 2013.
Love the old gundams back in the wild days of 2004. I had the Rising, Burning, and Dragon Gundams back when they were graded 1 through 5. Would be neat to see those older kits reviewed today, just like you did this one.
Now that you've experienced some of the worst HG kits of the old days of early 2000s, you also need to experience the best HG kits of 2000s. HG Buster Gundam, HG Aegis Gundam, etc.
With mine, I don't even bother plugging those wired weapons to the waist, the torso connectors work fine on their own. Also, the slot for the beam saber in the shield is a flat one, so getting some beam effects from something like the AGE kits will work out just fine.
You would think the fact this kit was almost 2 decades old would convince Mecha to be a little less harsh. I swear those WFM kits have utterly spoiled the guy.
@@Sirbuddyhippo True. But I've noticed that ever since he reviewed the WFM kits, he tends to have this... stigma against older kits or kits that use more traditional engineering. It's more pronounced with some kits then others, but it's there.
@@MasterSwo-MK I've noticed it too heck the gp01 ez8 and many old kits he's done he's hardly given them any praise but when i've seen other reviewers with older kits at least they give a more in depth look at em instead of saying ''its trash don't get it''
If you haven’t already, try the HG GP01 and GP01FB. They’re from the year 2000 (gasp!), but I found them to be fairly fun and SOLID builds, (minus the tiny head antenna but w/e). And they come with core fighters too, which is always a plus in my book.
Speaking of older kits ive been thinking about getting the HG Kampfer from 2008. Ive seen reviews of it and wonder if its good, always love the design of it one of the coolest Zeon suits ive ever seen.
This kit was released in 2004. I think calling it worst just because it's old is just a disrespect to the kit in question. I'm sure when this was released back then it was peak High Grade like what we see today.
@@Viper-jr4sp Yeah totally. Sure the kit is very bearbones and not engaging building wise. But I think that MechaG misses, again, the bigger picture when it comes to the hobby : these are model kits first, and it is expected that you put in the work. At least, it was expected back then. Sure now Bandai got so good at this that the frontier between kit and action figure is blurred. But in the 2000's? Saying old kits are bad is quite insignificant. We're past that point.
The early 00 kits have their flaws but has aspects i still appreciate about them while the seed kits on the other hand I find so difficult to go back to, a lot of them unfortunately didn't age that well.
The thing that sucks the most is that if you like a MS from from seed that isn't the first 5 gundams or a main character unit (Freedom, Justice, Providence, Astray series), you'll have to settle for the old HGs. Luckily the Calamity, Forbidden, and Raider got new kits (only in 1/100 though).
Old HG SEED Kit is this bad "mostly". And I don't think this is worse than plenty of Gunpla you've build Like... HG Tristan and RG Justice comes to mind.
@@alfianfahmi5430 Why weren't those universal? I mean, if they had the tech at the time, why not make it standard? Why'd they wait until HGAGE was a thing?
@@alfianfahmi5430 Yes, I bought the HG of the Five starting Gundam from first SEED (Aile Strike, Aegis, Buster, Blitz, and Duel Assault Shroud) plus two from the MSV (Hyperion and this Dreadnought) and I can say most of them are "Bad" if we judge it with modern standard Buster and Aegis are indeed two of the better one, because they do what the kit need to do, and the Color inaccuracy ain't THAT bad. -Most of them still use old tech (Peg and polycap) so the posing isn't good -Color inaccuracy+Large sheet of sticker -The discounted gimmick (Aegis and Buster at least can do what the suit can in the series) -Seamlines and Nubmark The Dreadnought really embody all of it with one added problem, which is the MS design that make the part clash (Like the shield with the Big shoulder pad, and the Wire for Pristis hinder any waist movement)
@@MasterSwo-MK The Gunpla community wasn't as big as nowadays, and the social media back then was like..... a bit slow at building community demands for non-US companies. Nowadays it's much quicker to bring people at Gunpla community to rally up against Bandai's stupid decisions. As for why they gave the thigh swivels to HG Buster Gundam instead of any other HG GAT-X Gundams, I sincerely have no clue on that 😂🤣😂🤣
How about comparing it to the HG Tristan gundam? Is this really worse that that shoulder pegged monster? Imo Tristan had worse color separation, articulation, accessories, seam lines, and the weapon didnt even want to stay in its hand. The Tristan is newer as well. Shame too cause the Tristan looks pretty cool but they totally botched the kit.
Still better than the HG Tristan... I'd say it's good enough for the times, the shapes are really pretty and the colors aren't that bad either, it's just a darker color pallete. My favourite kit from the older ones (2004) is the HG Hi Nu, it's a beautiful kit to be honest. It has some stuff here and there but it's years ahead when it comes to engineering.
@@divinestrike00x78 In short, the gimmick. The MGs perfectly recreate the Victory[2]'s signature 3-component transformation as seen in the anime, but they have basically 0 articulation as a result of how well they recreate this, and on top of that don't hold together particularly well, either in terms of the 3-component robot, or as individual model kit parts.
HG Seed Kits. I only had interest in some in this line of kits. Preferably the Strike Noir Gundam, Gunbarrel Dagger, Slaughter Dagger, Rudolf's Gouf Ignited, Alec's Kerberos BuCUE Hound, Astray Green Frame, Leon's Arms Astray PMC Custom, Miguel's Ginn, and M1 Astray (Remaster). Everything else, isn't that great unless you want the Perfect Striker Pack from Perfect Strike Gundam (Remaster) and use it on HG Revive Seed Kits or for your own choice in fixing the bad kits up with a lot of effort or just fine to your liking.
The worst thing is some of the seed model kits has a base adapter like the Providence Gundam that was shown and the instruction manual but there's also cases like the Savior Gundam what is a wing Style transformation flyer with no way to be put on a action based at all in the mobile suit form or flyer form
First and fore most I have to say I completely disagree with you. When this kit came out I was pleased with something new and different form the Seed line that I got and made it. I never painted it but I did enjoyed its gimmick and all. I think I remember wishing this was a 1/100 scale at the time. Now I can see its not up the par with more recent High Grade kits these days, bandai has improved the overall quality and engineering of current kits with new molding technique so I can see this may be out dated or worst as you say. However this is why I don't say its the worst kit. When it came out other like me was thrilled to see this and may have also enjoyed the assemble of this kit. I can image those builders who have more experiences building kits, may have thought it would be a challenge to get it looking right and had to do major modification to improve the parts. Yet looking back it did give me good memories and I know I am not alone. Plastic model kits from bandai(and any other brands) have come a long way and we all had are ups and downs when making them but one think still remains. We all had fun building them and of course playing with them and it still going on today. One can say that the most current kit that came out now could be the best or worst kit 10 years from now but that will not stop us from making these kits, and enjoying them.
It would be great but I'd also enjoy newer 1/144 of Seed units... mostly due to shelf space :D. WfM or even IBO-level kits (although some IBO kits were still quite stickers heavy... but at least the sculpt is detailed with good articulation)
It needs a 2.0 badly. Plus it gives them an excuse to finally release a Dreadnought H kit too. You can technically get away with the Dreadnought + Hyperion but it lacks the proper H shape from the Hyperion side so you can't get the over-the-shoulder mode.
Idea for a cool video, show me a kit that's bronze tier - that you've punched up to gold or even gundarium tier. There are obviously mechanical limitations, but after spending the amount of time you have in the hobby those are easily remedied.
Ill say this. For all the issues with the kit, i actually wish more funnel weapons had 3mm bits sticking out the back cause that works really well with the mini action bases that come with the standard ones.
In reality I wouldn’t mind getting two Mecha Gaikotsu one of them I could just painted and make it look better the other one out I wouldn’t mind making it better, making it more up to standard of current Gunpla so yeah. But Quick question where did you find them?
The HG Dreadnought was my intro to gunpla/model building back in 05/06 and even as my first I still knew it had some short comings, but I guess the nostalgia for this kit is very strong since is the only HG I still own
This could have been a good opportunity for you to go above and beyond and teach your base about how to improve a kit like this that isn't "100% color accurate." The amount of people in the hobby that either don't panel line, don't do any sanding or filing, don't do anything to really punch up their kits to the next level. I've been watching this channel on and off for years - as it usually provides some good takes of what's good v what's bad. We know just looking at this that its "bad". The forearms and thighs are in desperate need of plastic cement / sanding. It's fine, I just want people in the hobby to not be so afraid of the next steps to make their kits really stand out.
@Shinnasuka73 I didn't think so either. It was better than the RG in some aspects actually, worse than the RG overall but not terrible. I was actually referencing the time he talked about the HG in the MGEX Unicorn video and said the HGs are crap lol
To me Dreadnought Gundam is CE version of Moon Gundam. Both of them are some kinda of prototype to superior technology on their respective universe. The Moon Gundam has the early version of psycho frame and fin funnels, the Dreadnought Gundam has early prototype of N-Jammer Canceler, nuclear power ms, and Dragoon Sytem. The most critical aspect of them are in the head. Plus they both are in the same color scheme. Cmiiw. Edit : the Gundam aspect of both of them are actually only in the heads. The rest of the body actually from monoeye ms.
I think I'll build mine soon to see how I feel about it. But seeing as how I am currently building a glue assembly kit from 1983, I probally won't hate it.
The 2005 HG did come with holes for flying bases, my BUCue and Gouf ignited(hwc) both come with them. Though you are right on colour separation, plus my 2005 blitz was navy blue.
That was the problem with OG seed kits, although the reissue from 2011 onwards(with R code on the box) has corrected the wrong color issue. R04 Blitz has black/violet color, accurate to the original design, R03 Buster has gunmetal joints/grey parts. The reissue also comes with universal GAT - X sticker decals and stand adapter for these old molds.
I finished this for my kid and I thought it wasn't too bad with panel lining and other tweaks. Going to put some wires on it too. The stickers are absolutely terrible, though.
Why do you say this is Seed's version of the Double X? It has absolutely nothing to do with the Double X other than having an X-shaped backpack. I like this kit, it's not as bad as the Hyperion, also from the SEED MSV high grade line. I wish it had more functional versions of the beam reamers because I like the concept of those a lot but they're... for some reason parts-forming elements on this? Anyway, I think you're overreacting on this. It's not that bad. And sure that's a lot of white stickers but a Gundam marker or just some quick masking and spraying pre-assembly will fix that.
No wonder this kit is bad. it's from 2004, before Gunpla engineering started evolving in leaps and bounds, rather than being better by virtue of having actual color separation. I'd love to see a HGCE of this kit and the Hyperion Gundam.
Try The gold plated HG Gundam Phenix Destroy mode. That kit was a nightmare, and was unfortunately the first kit I ever built. Thank heavens I Stuck with it lol
I just noticed the stickers for the hg vidar are in the same places as the stickers on here, at least on the shoulders and chest so thats something in its defense
I dislike how most gundams look samey or their design or weaponry doesn't fit the name It's a dreadnought gundam, so you'd imagine a bulky heavily armored ms with some heavy weaponry, but it's still a lanky thin ms with whips for weapons That's why I absolutely love the iron blooded orphans line of high grades, some joints can be loose, nothing a drop of superglue won't fix, and all the mechas look distinct from one another, along with witch from mercury and reconguista
suddenly have flashbacks of the HGUC Gundam Tristam / Alex NT-1. The backpack with some modification would work well with a Gundam X kit (I believe it doesn't use the 2 peg system)
I built the zaku warrior green with big gun and white one and I built the providence. Those kits though not the best were pretty good still. To see one from the same time be worse than some of the 90s kits is sad
Seeing this just like brought back a memory I didn't know I had lmfao, I remember my brother giving me this kit after he built it when I was younger and being annoyed by the beam reamers cables because they would always pop out and shit lmfao
>Gunpla fans when their early 2000s kit doesn't have the same articulation feature and build the same level as recent kit (it's automatically bad in their eyes) For real dude I like your video and all but saying an old kit sucks since you have used to recent kits is very biased. I still remember you compare the MG Ez8 which is a kit from when Bandai still figuring out what the hell an inner frame is to the MG Freedom. Honestly dude
Old SEED HGs tend to be not great. Also, you think you would ever review the 0079 2.0 Master Grades? I would love to hear your opinions on the RX-78-2 2.0, Gelgoog 2.0, and Gouf 2.0.
There's just something about those Victory Ver.Kas that are absolutely crap. I built the Victory 2 Ver.Ka early on in my collecting career and despised every second of it. The build itself was boring, the joints were, and I couldn't get it to hold a pose to save my life. And it definitely gave credence to the term "hand grenade" because every time I'd even look at the thing, it felt like another part fell off. Eventually just put in the goodwill along with a bunch of other stuff because I wouldn't want to subject a fellow collector to that monstrosity
seems like its one of the better ones in the old HG SEED line. The proportions especially in the head looks charmingly clunky lol. Try to review another one! Maybe the Providence/Legend or something a not so color accurate like the Impulses or Saviour.
What a shame I really like the dreadnought, well to be specific I love the Dreadnought H so this isn't a complete loss for me, but the dreadnought H doesn't have a kit/figure (as far as I know) so it's a complete loss for me
Gonna be honest but whenever he does an older kit review he just rips it apart hardly any praise from the gp01 to the ez8 etc yes they are old in todays standards but you gotta understand how good it was back then and heck sometimes even now
Review the master grade, I think it would so funny. The worst gundam I built was tall geese 2 hg from 2000. Seed and wing have some of the worst I've seen and built.
The head looks so "fisher-price-y" a product of Bandai's tech at the time. It's a shame considering this is in universe the grandaddy of all the badass DRAGOON beasts! Definitely needs an RG, or revive at least.
Can't count old kits like the dreadnough as a terrible gunpla kit i mean for me i just added some effort maybe for you it is terrible but its just my opinion that it is great the fact you label this as terrible just shows how you really lack creativity when handling such old kits that needs the really really extra effort
