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The Worst Magic: The Gathering Format. Ever. 

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For awhile now, I’ve had a funny idea for a video knocking about in my head. I wanted to make a video called “The Best Magic: The Gathering Format” and in it, I would basically go over every format from Draft to COmmander to Modern to Pauper to Legacy to Standard to Cube, and conclude them each to be the Best Magic Format, only for different and unique reasons.
Because, of course, there is no such thing as a best Magic format. Magic The Gathering isn’t one game, but many, and with many magic the gathering players there are many, many wonderful and different ways to enjoy the game. That would have been the thesis of that video, but I opted not to do it because I didn’t want to encourage Commander players and limited players yelling at each other over which of their vastly different yet equally awesome formats was truly the best way to play Magic. As always, the best format in magic is the one you enjoy the most. If you are having fun, then you are doing it correct.
To my surprise, however, last weekend brought us many new things in Magic: The Gathering. It brought us The Mythic Invitational which wow’d audience with the first competitive MTG event played on Magic Arena, shattering viewership records, introducing audience to a veritable smorgasbord of amazing Magic personalities, from the MPL, literally best players in the world, to hand picked awesome and engaging streamers, community members, for what may be the most exciting group of competitors ever, and delivered into this record number of homes by the best coverage team Magic has ever seen!
It also introduced us to a brand new format, previously never before seen and, after this last weekend, hopefully never ever seen again. Why? I’ll tell you.
You see, I may not be able to do a video about the best format in magic the gathering, because an absolute best does not exist, but I can do a video about the worst format in magic the gathering, because thanks to Single Elimination Duo Standard, it now exists, and it nearly derailed the biggest, most successful Magic The Gathering event in the game’s history.
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@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 5 лет назад
I always try very hard to offer criticism that does no fall into a territory of blind, emotional complaining. I try to support my claims with evidence, so that even if you disagree you can still see where I am coming from. I also hate more than anything the idea of "yucking someone's yum" and try only to make videos like this when they are on an extremely important issue, and not just some personal distaste of mine. I hope very much I succeeded in those goals here.
@falloutboy9993
@falloutboy9993 5 лет назад
Tolarian Community College It shows that the video is unavailable. Did you take it down to change it? I really like your take on MTG.
@jakobirobi2359
@jakobirobi2359 5 лет назад
I've tried coming back to watch the video eight times now, waiting a few minutes each time, and it keeps saying the video is unavailable....
@falloutboy9993
@falloutboy9993 5 лет назад
It’s working now.
@3n3rgy90
@3n3rgy90 5 лет назад
@@falloutboy9993 It is a youtube bug, have it on some videos and some not.
@Vanessarbp
@Vanessarbp 5 лет назад
omg duo stand was sad.....only ozorius and rdw...boring has hell...
@RiseInAfterlife
@RiseInAfterlife 5 лет назад
"Your life total is a resource, use it as such" Monored: Yes, use it.
@edschramm6757
@edschramm6757 4 года назад
USE IT AND I GET TO BURN WHAT YOU LEAVE BEHIND!
@alecazam6755
@alecazam6755 4 года назад
Dimir player who might be holding a force of will in hand: *necropotence down to 1 life* Mono red: uwu *gut shot*
@edschramm6757
@edschramm6757 4 года назад
i feel like unless you are in a situation where you either find a specific card or die, you would not put yourself below 4 against any red deck, let alone mono-red.
@edschramm6757
@edschramm6757 4 года назад
@@alecazam6755 it occured to me : why would a deck that runs normal red Mana run gut shot over Shock or Lightning Bolt? It saw use is non-red decks because phyrexian Mana OP
@edschramm6757
@edschramm6757 4 года назад
2 life is cheaper than one mana, sure, but is a 1 damage non-permanent worth the card slot over Shock or Lightning bolt in the 1 mana cost. the burn deck i have as it stands has 12 burn cards in the 1/2 mana range that can go face (i don't run shock in that deck), i think i would be better served having that slot be a Browbeat or Risk factor, which either lets me reload or chunk my opponents health total. though maybe im missing an archetype that would actually be well served by gut shot
@davidfields5375
@davidfields5375 5 лет назад
There are many ways to play magic the gathering, but there is only one way to say "Many Magic the Gathering players"
@Bibbedibabbedibu
@Bibbedibabbedibu 5 лет назад
Many Magic the Gathering players read this phrase and hear it in the same way in their heads ^^
@bilbobbagginsback2604
@bilbobbagginsback2604 5 лет назад
Many Magic: the gathering players ask the question, "Why is it that the Professor's voice helps me sleep at night?"
@TheSpectralFX
@TheSpectralFX 5 лет назад
Many magic: the gathering players asks: why do I say "many magic: the gathering players asks" this way?
@sebastianortega1938
@sebastianortega1938 5 лет назад
Many Magic the Gathering players play Magic the Gathering in many ways.
@TheSpectralFX
@TheSpectralFX 5 лет назад
@@sebastianortega1938 we need an abreviation "MMTGP" that simply refers to how The professor says "Many Magic... Players"
@savnana3605
@savnana3605 5 лет назад
How to play duo standard. 1) Buy the same deck twice 2) Buy the same deck twice 3) ???? 4) Wizards profits.
@jaffetchacon5797
@jaffetchacon5797 5 лет назад
but doesn't arena not have a limitation on the cards you own in your collection ?
@cammuz53
@cammuz53 5 лет назад
@@jaffetchacon5797 You can own at most 4 copies of each card. But you can put 4 copies of the same card in every single deck you make
@jaffetchacon5797
@jaffetchacon5797 5 лет назад
@@cammuz53 so then you can duplicate the deck and run it twice? It does feel like a more doable format with arena and sb doesnt make a lot of sense either. Id say wish cards can let you grab cards from your second deck.
@cammuz53
@cammuz53 5 лет назад
@@jaffetchacon5797 theoretically yes, but I think that the rules for Duo Standard say the decks must be different. You could still run two very similar decks, with the second one being the same as the first one but with a few different cards
@Kumagoro42
@Kumagoro42 5 лет назад
@@cammuz53 Nope, the two decks can just be the same one twice. Quoting from Marshall Sutcliffe: " They can submit the same exact lists" magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/competitive-gaming/duo-standard-and-mythic-invitational-2019-03-26
@Kalmight
@Kalmight 5 лет назад
Galaxy Brain: wizards purposefully chose an unbalanced luck-based format so that the streamers could compete with the pros.
@northernlad4486
@northernlad4486 5 лет назад
Well the "pros" can't cheat so they're already at a disadvantage on arena.
@goreobsessed2308
@goreobsessed2308 5 лет назад
@@northernlad4486 your not wrong
@thepants1450
@thepants1450 5 лет назад
@@northernlad4486could you elaborate? Honest question, how do they cheat?
@imoveforward007
@imoveforward007 5 лет назад
​@@thepants1450 they will shuffle your cards and watch which card is going on top. They will shuffle their own cards and assess land distribution, put certain cards on top. Sleight of hand to put cards on top. Draw extra cards, timing fudges, sneaking extra land into play, not manage their life total honestly. Arrange their cards in a specific order, then pile shuffle in a way that ensures an exact and predetermined draw order. And countless other ways of cheating.
@bobby45825
@bobby45825 5 лет назад
@@thepants1450 you can look up paper magic tournaments and, at the highest levels, there's almost always somebody getting caught cheating. They cheat in a variety of ways by intentionally missing triggers, misrepresenting the board state, putting cards back into their hand that should never be there, etc. Etc.
@ArmadilloAl
@ArmadilloAl 5 лет назад
In my experience, the best format is, always has been, and always will be "whatever format your friends are playing".
@futureboy314
@futureboy314 5 лет назад
"But only if they're playing EDH. Otherwise, find new friends."
@dracodominus2800
@dracodominus2800 5 лет назад
@@futureboy314 I'm sure all your past non EDH playing friends were *soooo* sad to see you go... ;-)
@KingBobXVI
@KingBobXVI 5 лет назад
Best format to me was "The Stack" - big ol' stack of singleton junk rares in the middle with a shared draw and graveyard. Play any card in your hand face down as a "land", and there you go. The rares are bad, but tend to have a lot of effects, which makes games interesting really quick.
@futureboy314
@futureboy314 5 лет назад
@@dracodominus2800 I was only kidding. I don't have any friends.
@ianbyrne465
@ianbyrne465 5 лет назад
@@KingBobXVI that sounds ridiculous and awful, and I love everything about it
@jenjenhocho3188
@jenjenhocho3188 5 лет назад
Well Prof, it has been said that “Magic the Gathering is the best game made by the worst company”
@DaDunge
@DaDunge 4 года назад
You've never had to deal wit games workshop I see.
@Imperium3945
@Imperium3945 4 года назад
@@DaDunge Don't say this name again or you'll summon a devil. (also, Ea exists soooooooo)
@SoloFan87
@SoloFan87 4 года назад
Ill one plus this, I bet none of you never had to work or deal with Konami???
@dragonarcher89
@dragonarcher89 4 года назад
Psilord87 was gonna say Konami myself XD
@deinpapi4764
@deinpapi4764 4 года назад
What about Komoney
@kisekinecro
@kisekinecro 5 лет назад
word of advise Wizard: If "gaming" history has taught us anything, do not try to mimic Blizzard. So many company tries to mimic WOW and they all fail. What you need to do is to be your own beast and stay true to yourself. Only that will give you a fight chance.
@AgusSkywalker
@AgusSkywalker Год назад
This advice aged like fine wine... don't ever try to mimic Blizzard.
@pawels.5669
@pawels.5669 Год назад
@@AgusSkywalker ... And this is what they exactly do in 2023.
@JervisGermane
@JervisGermane Месяц назад
I wouldn't normally respond to a comment this old, but how do you feel about the "be your own beast and stay true to yourself" part now that they've a) done the exact opposite, and b) raked in record profits from doing so? I'm now officially an ex-player because I hate what they did to my game, and it'll never be fun to play again. What about you?
@conniebarnett5089
@conniebarnett5089 5 лет назад
When they first announced that the format was gonna be duo standard someone (I think SaffronOlive) on Twitter described it as "A solution to a problem that was already solved". Reflecting on that post invitational that rings very true lmao
@thisguydan
@thisguydan 5 лет назад
Very true. In fact, Hearthstone is going through growing pains in solving this very problem for themselves. And their solutions are awkward because they're trying to avoid just copying the one that's proven to work the best, the one MTG already discovered decades ago.
@MerchantTV
@MerchantTV 5 лет назад
Competing in the Mythic Invitational was one of the highlights of my life really, the atmosphere was incredible and there was a real sense of Magic being propelled to the forefront, we had the strongest presence at PAX & the two worlds of pro & community colliding and hanging out was such a joy. I think the format is terrible, and it's unlikely we'll see it again in my opinion, but I think WOTC didn't help themselves with the choices of feature matches at times. There were unique decks there, but often the feature match would be yet another Esper/Red v Esper/Red mirror. A prime example of this is I believe Sjow v Savjz was featured over myself & Reid Duke, so viewers got another Esper mirror instead of Grixis Midrange v Golgari Explore. I think Duo Standard could probably put forth an entertaining tournament to watch, but no action was taken to not feature the same problematic matchups coverage wise again and again. Or you know tournaments could just use bo3 with sideboards haha.
@bossman983
@bossman983 5 лет назад
Caught your game at PAX, but I couldn't agree more. Once I saw a couple of the games I figured I pretty much saw them all.
@bohrdom7556
@bohrdom7556 5 лет назад
Hopefully we'll be able to see your matches one day! Hope they give you the footage like you discussed in your Invitational vlog.
@clawtooth35
@clawtooth35 5 лет назад
also - didn't you say in your video that the decks were chosen for you for the first match? The Prof says you get to choose but I seem to remember you saying otherwise.
@jamesbygames5336
@jamesbygames5336 5 лет назад
You should've used priest of the forgotten gods in your golgari, smh
@ghostbreath7791
@ghostbreath7791 5 лет назад
@@jamesbygames5336 she's my waifu
@merfall2224
@merfall2224 5 лет назад
You nailed it with the whole “being ashamed of magic” thing. The game has always been great and they should show confidence in it
@gregtheveggieburger9543
@gregtheveggieburger9543 4 года назад
The game is good, would be great if they designed a new way to implement mana because the whole, "ahh... Well that could have been a fun game, if I'd drawn a damn land!", situation really does drag the game down. There's a difference between not performing so well due to luck, and physically not being able to play the bloody game because you weren't lucky enough to draw the very thing that makes the game function.
@aidan4530
@aidan4530 4 года назад
Greg The Veggieburger land flood/screw is really the only major luck based element of the game. That, and obviously drawing from a set of 60 different cards (but deck building comes into play there to minimize the luck of top decking) But tbh, compared to hearthstone (the most popular tcg game) magic is so much less luck based it’s not even funny. It’s impossible to create a card game wholly based on skill; but magic is the closest it gets. And really , from my experience running good decks, mana screw/flood comes into account like maybe 1/8 games. It’s not that huge of a deal
@draftmagicagain1000
@draftmagicagain1000 3 года назад
@@gregtheveggieburger9543 thats part of the beauty of Magic. The game doesnt care about you. It doesnt hold your hand. Put too few lands in the deck and you will get mana screwed more. Its hard to see from an individual perspective, but sometimes you get mana screwed or mana flooded and it sucks. But, this Also happens to your opponent as well. So it balances out. Its another chance to show your play skill by switching up your style as necessary. Ie if you are light on mana, maybe you change to playing defensively and hold out until your mana comes.
@notthatthenamematters6163
@notthatthenamematters6163 3 года назад
@@gregtheveggieburger9543 yup, mana screw/flood is the only objectively bad thing in magic
@SuperbFairy
@SuperbFairy Год назад
@@gregtheveggieburger9543 statistically mana screw and flooding is extremely unlikely if the deck is correctly built, it absolutely contains a chance that you have a rough game but the biggest issue with mana is people being greedy and not learning how to pick the right number of mana for their deck costs
@selkiestorm3232
@selkiestorm3232 5 лет назад
Mtg is already prohibitively expensive for most formats, the idea of needing two decks is ridiculous.
@resdraon
@resdraon 5 лет назад
So is having about 3432438 mono-red decks.
@gregtheveggieburger9543
@gregtheveggieburger9543 4 года назад
@@resdraon Every arena player ever
@edschramm6757
@edschramm6757 4 года назад
Yes and no. Paper magic very much so. I think they were hoping that the wild cards being able to turn into any needed card would be enough to allow any desired cards to come in, underestimating the strain that can put on players who don't put that much money into the game. It depends on the deck you use. A standard pauper player probably wouldn't be very inhibited by cost, but a deck that runs 12 shock lands plus 20 other rares and 8 mythics is going to be a pain to make, especially if you have two different lists that do that
@Ianthe22
@Ianthe22 4 года назад
It's not cheap, but it wont financially ruin you will it?
@spooplegeist5260
@spooplegeist5260 3 года назад
@@Ianthe22 It would probably cost a couple hundred dollars. Seems a bit excessive for a bunch of .png files, especially for a tournament that you were personally invited to participate in.
@T4silly
@T4silly 5 лет назад
I thought the worst Format was Banding... *Whisper, Whisper.* Wait, Banding wasn't a Format? It was a Mechanic? How does Banding work again...?
@Nerdynomicon
@Nerdynomicon 5 лет назад
Oh come on. Its simple! Banding is.... Well its...it works like........ Judge?!?!?!?
@ThatWildcard
@ThatWildcard 5 лет назад
Wasnt banding this weird spinoff they tried to shove down our throats disguised as a magic set?
@ThatWildcard
@ThatWildcard 5 лет назад
Ah yes, reverse menace
@Nerdynomicon
@Nerdynomicon 5 лет назад
No no no. That was horsemanship. Banding was.............. Um............ I........ Yes you're right.
@mrchuckmorris
@mrchuckmorris 5 лет назад
Wait, wasn't banding like a text-based RPG video game they made back in the 90's?
@mrchuckmorris
@mrchuckmorris 5 лет назад
Introducing Duo Baseball! Each MLB team must now sign on TWO complete rosters of multimillion-dollar-contract players and coaches. In the first three innings you field one roster, in the second three you field the second, and if you make it to the last three innings you get to choose which roster to play!
@oimatewhereareyou
@oimatewhereareyou 5 лет назад
You just invented Blernsball ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GpTPm1R4_AM.html
@doms.6701
@doms.6701 5 лет назад
I get it now. It's not about putting two decks together, it's about the pay to win factor. It's hard to put two together because everyone wants the expensive cards. Glad I understand now.
@Derael
@Derael 5 лет назад
You overestimate the cost of decks in arena. With optimal distribution of resources and regular play you can literally get all the competitive decks with less than 200$. Considering how much they paid for simple participation, participants should be able to afford it without any problem.
@Da5kone001
@Da5kone001 5 лет назад
Andrey Protas care to site sources or state where you found these facts? I don’t mind spending money on arena to be fair I’ve spent somewhere north of $400 and have most competitive decks but friends and streamers asked about $ also seem to say that they have spent well over $200
@Derael
@Derael 5 лет назад
@@Da5kone001 Well, it's based on my personal experience. I'm F2P player, and I have 95+% of cards from both RNA and GRN and most crucial rares from older sets. If I spent 50$ on each of the older sets, I would likely get enough WCs to get all the rares from them I'm missing. And I didn't even play optimally, e.g. I skipped days and even weeks of gameplay when I wasn't in the mood to play. Basically, if you play every day, you will get most cards from the set by the time new set comes out.
@nosrin1988
@nosrin1988 5 лет назад
This reminds me of a concept I came up with at my last gaming night. Where say you have four players, and each one of them brings anywhere between 2-5 decks with them, depending on how long you want this to go. Basically as soon as you go down to zero and are out, you pull out your next deck and when your turn comes around again you play that instead of just being out. I think it would be an interesting mix up of the game. Obviously you'd have to have mostly different decks. And if you don't want the game to go on forever you'd keep it to 2-3 decks per person, but it could be fun.
@beckettakins6198
@beckettakins6198 2 года назад
Neverending commander night
@amecarethqc6652
@amecarethqc6652 5 лет назад
1:00 "The best format in Magic is the one you enjoy the most" Woah....
@nicholasfarrell5981
@nicholasfarrell5981 4 года назад
Amecareth Qc he ain't wrong.
@JamJestKesh
@JamJestKesh 5 лет назад
Hearthstone is making format with sideboards. while MTG is trying to make one without? MFW copying goes all the way to swapping properties.
@bobby45825
@bobby45825 5 лет назад
Hearthstone with SB's would be pretty cool
@Ensivion
@Ensivion 5 лет назад
Woah, where did blizzard say this?
@JamJestKesh
@JamJestKesh 5 лет назад
@@Ensivion The new tournament format, where you bring a few version of one deck is functionally side board
@Kmc2777
@Kmc2777 5 лет назад
The new competitive format for hearthstone is called specialist. You bring a main deck and secondary and tertiary deck. You can change up to 5 cards from the main deck.
@cpaoi88
@cpaoi88 5 лет назад
My questions for Wizards is this. Were the bizarre interactions with sideboards brought on by use the use of Mastermind's Acquisition, for example grabbing Clear the Mind to prevent decking in the Esper Mirror, really less convoluted and difficult to explain than sideboarding? The coverage team had to discuss these weird adaptations and interactions many, many times. They also had to explain the intricacies of how matchups worked in duo standard...etc. This is not even taking into account the insane consistency with which Esper, Red aggro and White aggro appeared on-screen. This was a missed opportunity for what marketing professionals refer to as "training your customer". Customers may not see the value proposition of your product because they do not understand it, not because it is inferior to another offering. If the coverage team had been able to use the time and energy they expended to explain the weird corner cases of this untested format to explain sideboarding, the huge audience they were essentially guaranteed by the event hype could have been shown why sideboarding is great and made the concept less daunting to new players. Imagine setting up a between-game look at each player sideboarding. Rather than the simultaneous sideboarding we get in standard arena, we could have set it up so that each player sideboards individually on camera. Great magic minds like Paul Cheon could then explain to the audience why the player currently sideboarding is taking out what they are taking out and why they are bringing in what they are bringing in. Best of 3 standard occasionally has convoluted transformational sideboard plans, but for the most part it boils down to easy-to-understand stuff like "Shock is coming out against this control opponent because they don't have creatures to kill. The player is bringing in Duress because it is more effective against decks that don't play creatures." Boom. It's really that simple. Rather than defaulting to best of 1 because it's easier to understand, take these opportunities to introduce players to the sideboarding concept. I came back to Magic after a long absence after Arena came out, and I was never more than a kitchen table player before that. I started out jamming mono red in Bo1 because sideboarding scared me. When I finally dipped my toes in, copying the mono black t2 zombie list that was running around at the time, I used a sideboard guide for training wheels. I was delighted to find that post-board I could actually put up a fight against Grixis Midrange, a fairly hopeless game 1 matchup. I never looked back, and I suspect that many Arena players who haven't yet taken the plunge yet wouldn't look back either. Prof said it best. Don't dilute your product, take advantage of possible teaching moments to demonstrate why its great. People are migrating to magic from other games for a reason, let's stay true to that reason, at least in professional, tournament level magic.
@JustDalyn
@JustDalyn 5 лет назад
I think this format was purely born out of them not having the challenge feature not at 100% so they came up with duo standard as a way for them to still play best of three without there being room for cheating while they had their whole collection open while editing decks for side boarding. A X player cheated scandal is much more harmful to the community than a watered down format.
@peterhone9763
@peterhone9763 5 лет назад
Honestly, I have to agree completely. Something about Arena has always bugged me and it really feels like WOTC is shying away from the things that make Magic Magic. Which at the end of the day isn't a problem with the Arena platform itself, but how they're trying to "fix" things that don't need to be fixed. I'd love to see WOTC go back to being proud of the ways in which it's different from other things and lean into the parts of Magic that have kept it going for the last 25 years.
@6MillionPesoMan
@6MillionPesoMan 5 лет назад
What sideboard guide did you use?
@danielduncan8461
@danielduncan8461 5 лет назад
There is a difference between offering a good product and something fun to watch. Duo Standard was (at least for me) way more fun to watch, and held my attention all weekend.
@JacobBiaggi
@JacobBiaggi 5 лет назад
There are constantly people playing BO1 complaining that X deck is unfair, they just concede as soon as they see it's that deck, etc. Sideboarding solves that issue for the most part. You lose your game 1 and then you sideboard to have a chance against that deck that you can't deal with in your initial 60. And if something truly busted comes along and represents 80% of the decks played even in a Bo3 format with sideboards? You can safely bet that something in that deck will be banned. Unless you're playing Hollow One in Modern, then you know you're safe because no matter how busted Faithless Looting is they'll never ban it when they could keep that spot on the banlist reserved for Stoneforge Mystic. Remember to keep Stoneforge Mystic banned in Modern and also WOW. FUCK. TRON.
@Improbabilities
@Improbabilities 5 лет назад
Prof, 'smörgåsborg' directly translates to 'sandwich fortress'. I was about to critique you on your Swedish, but I think you just felt that a sandwich table (smörgåsbord) was too small to fit all formats. I applaud your inventive use of the Swedish language!
@quietusq489
@quietusq489 5 лет назад
I don't think anyone in native English speaking countries can pronounce it properly. I know my pronunciation for it is all over the place.
@Improbabilities
@Improbabilities 5 лет назад
It's not the simplest of words, and it has our strange extra letters. We also pronounce most vowels differently (also, Y is a vowel, dammit), and our j's don't start with a d. I'm not surprised people have a hard time with singular Swedish words, completely removed from the rest of the language. In fact, I'd say it's more of an English word than a Swedish word these days. I haven't heard anyone use the word smörgåsbord in Sweden for years, and I haven't seen an actual smörgåsbord in more than a decade. But I thought it was pretty funny that the thing he actually said was still a word in Swedish.
@seancpp
@seancpp 2 года назад
In the US, and probably other English speaking countries, we just use smorgasbord to mean a large selection in front of you. like a food buffet or a large selection of cards that you can pick from Holiday dinner with family and a lot of food to select from can be called a smorgasbord
@vincentlance
@vincentlance 2 года назад
To be fair, the only reason I know Borg means fortress is because the TRPG Mörk Borg.
@marcoottina654
@marcoottina654 Год назад
I laughed so hard by imaging a snow-covered fortress on top of a snowy and steep mountain but built up with sandwiches rather than stones XD
@hyperonmonster
@hyperonmonster 5 лет назад
I would still love to see that "best magic format" video going over the uniqueness and appeal of every format.
@hermandarmawan4610
@hermandarmawan4610 5 лет назад
WotC, if you ever force your players to play dual standard in magic the gathering paper tournament, a lot of your players will quit this game.
@Derael
@Derael 5 лет назад
There is no point in dual standard on paper. It was only chosen because it resembles MTGA BO1 format. Most MTGA players don't really care about paper magic.
@ericandruszko7563
@ericandruszko7563 5 лет назад
Yeah... this format would work fine for some other card games, but for MTG, where decks are often built hyper specific, this becomes kind of chaotic... I feel sorry for players in this tourney.
@jumanjiman86
@jumanjiman86 3 года назад
“Do you hope we get another invitational next year?” Such an innocent question at the time but hearing that at the end kinda stung
@progste
@progste 5 лет назад
One of the reasons of heartstone's long term decline is the amount of rng. I can't believe they would want to imitate that especially now woth the success of arena.
@veizour
@veizour 5 лет назад
"The one you enjoy the most" Thank you, professor
@dylanaird4437
@dylanaird4437 5 лет назад
Also getting a “video is unavailable” error
@EtherwroughtPaige
@EtherwroughtPaige 5 лет назад
I'm getting this here and on GLHF's new video today. I'm in Canada. Maybe there is some new youtube 'feature' blocking international?
@justinbowman1342
@justinbowman1342 5 лет назад
I just now got to watch this video.
@HK556
@HK556 5 лет назад
Back for me too
@MRlebellion
@MRlebellion 5 лет назад
You are quite engaging, feels like you are in the same room. Subscribed.
@nickst.pierre5598
@nickst.pierre5598 5 лет назад
Duo could be an interesting draft format, draft 5 packs and build 2 decks
@RmDIrSudoSu
@RmDIrSudoSu 4 года назад
With no sideboard? :/ I doubt it would be interesting. It's like trying to build a 60 cards deck in draft.. In draft the sideboard is really important, and even with 45 cards (3 packs) you can do a new deck using only your sideboard between two games.
@theofftaskforce6546
@theofftaskforce6546 3 года назад
Draft by itself isn't an interesting format
@spooplegeist5260
@spooplegeist5260 3 года назад
@@theofftaskforce6546 Except to all the people who think draft is an interesting format.
@theofftaskforce6546
@theofftaskforce6546 3 года назад
@@spooplegeist5260 Yeah. But even that's kinda fading out.
@spooplegeist5260
@spooplegeist5260 3 года назад
@@theofftaskforce6546 is it though? I have no idea what coverage is like anymore, or what people like watching. I stopped being able to follow coverage around the time they disbanded the pro tour in like 2018. I know most of my friends and I enjoy watching draft more than standard, but that could also be due to the fact that standard has sucked for the past couple years.
@schrottinator
@schrottinator 5 лет назад
The best format in Magic is opening booster packs.
@FunkInMyTrunk
@FunkInMyTrunk 5 лет назад
@@vegas_party_animal7737 in my LGS if u pulled a foil tree in you box you would get a refund
@TheSpectralFX
@TheSpectralFX 5 лет назад
Maaaa! I found the shady salesman, don't answer the door next time the bell ring okaaay?
@KingRarecrazy
@KingRarecrazy 5 лет назад
Teferi and red agro and white agro decks took down the video
@txag007
@txag007 5 лет назад
Teferi put it 3rd from the top of videos he was uploading to RU-vid.
@bagofsunshine3916
@bagofsunshine3916 5 лет назад
What about Boros agro with a focus on Mentor? :P
@TheSpectralFX
@TheSpectralFX 5 лет назад
I am here to blame simic nexus of fate decks, they are just not passing the turn to The professor.
@moonwitch5466
@moonwitch5466 4 года назад
To be honest, I'm bad at this game as is, my co worker beats me constantly. Duo Standard wouldn't help me "get good" lol
@Oracle_
@Oracle_ 5 лет назад
I had read about this on reddit and my boyfriend, who played MTG in the past, tried to explain to me (new player) why this was such a problem, but I couldn't understand very well, having never played in a tournament. But you explained it very well, thank you, Professor!
@thomashearne4670
@thomashearne4670 5 лет назад
Prof, i got to hand it to you for putting my thoughts and feelings so eloquently into words. While I enjoyed the invitational, I kept getting the feeling I was watching 'magic lite'. I don't want magic lite, I want magic
@InsanoRider777
@InsanoRider777 5 лет назад
"When looking at different formats, we're trying to balance several levers." Because clearly they don't already have a format that does that. Nope, none at all, they needed a new one. Regular old Magic in *no way* fills that criteria. /sarc
@Derael
@Derael 5 лет назад
To be completely honest, it doesn't. It's far from perfect in many ways, that's why they are constantly trying to improve it, introducing new mulligan rule, for example. They should also find a way to address going first vs going 2nd problem, since going first in game one generates quite significant unfair advantage. Duo Standard obviously didn't solve any of those problems, but at least it tried to solve some of them (at least opening hand algorithm eliminated situations where you have to mulligan to 4, because you got 0 lands 3 times in a row).
@InsanoRider777
@InsanoRider777 5 лет назад
@@Derael imo if you mulligan more than once, chances are you've already lost.
@Derael
@Derael 5 лет назад
@@InsanoRider777 Well, that's exactly the problem with BO3 I mentioned. It almost never happens to me in BO1. I still need to deal with manaflood, but at least I can cast my 1 and 2 drops 99% of the time. Also I still won quite a few games where I mulliganed to 4 cards, but that's more of an exception than the rule. There are a bunch of other minor problems, Nexus of Fate existence is one of them. You don't want to show new players games involving this card, believe me.
@TheBloodswordsman
@TheBloodswordsman 5 лет назад
I am a die hard commander player. I play nothing else. To anyone who plays a different format: Your format is amazing! It is as cool as you are!
@YitzharVered
@YitzharVered 4 года назад
Dude, no need to insult draft so much.
@jacobcain9008
@jacobcain9008 4 года назад
I'd play commander if I could, but I only have a few hundred cards. Only 3 of those are legendary, so I don't have many options
@kevinsplinter1954
@kevinsplinter1954 4 года назад
@@jacobcain9008 If you are interested in starting, I'd recommend going on tappedout.com and using their filtered deck search function. You can find a deck that is super cheap (20-30 bucks) that is still good and playtest it for free to get the hang of it. Either that, or you can find decks built around the Legenedarys you have an be inspired to fill out your own version. You can get a hold of all the cards you dont have through cardkingdom.com for a good price. And dont be concerned about the large price tags that show up on decks. While the decks can get pricey quick (100 card singleton does that, lol), it's easy to cut costs by using basic lands and simple duals. Any deck you find online can probably be cut down to 50 bucks and still keep the theme and style intact. Whether or not you expand to commander, keep having fun playing magic, my friend.
@grxberserker6135
@grxberserker6135 4 года назад
@@jacobcain9008 if you are interested in commander please reach out to your friends who also play commander. Many of us would gladly help you build a starting budget deck by donating you cards that would be relevant to one of your legendary creature's gameplan. Else, there are literally thousands of lists where a solid commander deck can be purchased for as low as $17 and is still very fun to play. Lastly, the precon decks are always a solid option for those looking to enter the format, and with a little tuning they can prove to be very powerful out of the box.
@jacobcain9008
@jacobcain9008 4 года назад
@@grxberserker6135 Hahah, thanks! Sadly though I have a single friend who will play MTG, and he prefers Yu-Gi-Oh. I'll stick to watching commander content for now.
@OsirisLocke
@OsirisLocke 5 лет назад
I like the idea of invitational tournaments having weird one off formats, especially if the invitees are not there based on pure competitive merit. My only issue with it was putting such a huge money prize on the line for pure spectacle. Save that for true competitive events in the traditional tournament formats, so we can believe the winners earned the prize (mostly) by skill and dedication.
@leftthigh3999
@leftthigh3999 5 лет назад
From the thumbnail i thought this would be about oathbreaker... i was kinda confused tbh
@thatguysoko
@thatguysoko 5 лет назад
Here here, Prof! Edit: As a Commander player primarily, this was a great event! But. It totally threw me off when they switched decks mid game. For them to not have a sideboard I think further cements unintentionally the idea that one specific deck is the only way to win. Side boarding shows new players that even when I had a disadvantage, there is a way to come back with the deck that you were already playing and even come back to win. Now I think some people will just look at these decks and think that there is only one deck to build to win
@nartin9
@nartin9 5 лет назад
Cube is one of my favorite formats. I love it that I can play my favorite cards that are not played anywhere else. Also I am able to play draft matter cards that I own and love. Another cool thing is I can had custom cards to my cube.. I also sometimes add planechase making it more chaotic than a normal draft but at a lower power level
@stuarmanha
@stuarmanha 4 года назад
...I'd love to see a video introduction to different formats. I've only ever done standard and a bit of commander. Keep up the good work™.
@Snazzeo
@Snazzeo 5 лет назад
Pauper pro tour (I’m not calling it a mythic championship, that’s dumb) please
@goreobsessed2308
@goreobsessed2308 5 лет назад
That would be cool
@user-pp5oh9ee1k
@user-pp5oh9ee1k 5 лет назад
It would be double dumb if it was pauper, because you wouldn’t be able to play any mythics.
@matthewbeattie
@matthewbeattie 4 года назад
Snazzeo The only problem with Pauper becoming popular is that the card prices will then go up, so sssshhhhh
@luisbecerra4525
@luisbecerra4525 5 лет назад
trashing on hearthstone midrole ad for new hearthstone set
@Evilfetus15
@Evilfetus15 5 лет назад
this guy is such a nerd for magic lol, i love it. You can hear the enthusiasm in his voice. Subbed.
@rodrigodomingues4537
@rodrigodomingues4537 5 лет назад
That's something strange and paradoxical. While the professor is burning down the Wizards for what he thinks is their mistakes all I can see is how this man loves Magic and cares for it!
@c001357
@c001357 5 лет назад
I'd like to note that the problem wasn't using an all new format; the Magic Invitationals were similarly centered around experimental formats. Duo Standard, however was not thought through so well. Asking for two separate standard decks was too much.
@ty_sylicus
@ty_sylicus 5 лет назад
Did they even test it? I think not!
@Agarwaen00
@Agarwaen00 5 лет назад
We need some kind of lifegain stax deck to abuse this time out rule. So instead of reducing the life of your opponent to 0, you focus on gaining life and prolonging the game.
@nicholashewitt9781
@nicholashewitt9781 5 лет назад
MonoWhite Prison ft. Ajani's Pridemate and the Gang
@a.velderrain8849
@a.velderrain8849 5 лет назад
Nah just do Bant Turbo Fog with life gain. Drag the game out until you win.
@onnilattu9138
@onnilattu9138 5 лет назад
iKonic Flow Pridemate is such a bullshit card.
@DynamicUnoTea
@DynamicUnoTea 5 лет назад
This is kinda my thing: "Don't kill, don't die." Blue players can end up milling themselves to death with draw spells. Watch for tilting.
@quint3ssent1a
@quint3ssent1a 5 лет назад
Hyper Cancer 3 😁😁😁😁
@yonisavransky3731
@yonisavransky3731 5 лет назад
awesome video! i have been waiting for you or command zone to make this! fyi you have a typo in the description. "what does magic doe better than hearthstone"
@cyril957
@cyril957 3 года назад
I'm most intrigued by the concept of the pros and cons of having 2 different decks. I used to play the Star Wars CCG when I was a kid, in which you ALWAYS had two decks, dark side and light side, and each game would pit two decks of opposing sides against each other. This isn't an exact 1:1 correlation, obviously, since that game was designed with this 'format' baked into the game design itself instead of tacked on a quarter-century in, but I'd be interested in seeing what a sort of 'fixed' duo standard might look like.
@simplymtg6160
@simplymtg6160 5 лет назад
I can't watch this because it's "Video Unavailable" but I can imagine it's great and talks about my outstanding Rock, Paper, Scissors performance at the mythic invitational and how it was at least best of three 🤔 I'll shut up, Just Take My Like!
@christopheranderson9430
@christopheranderson9430 5 лет назад
Why make such a ridiculous format!? The traditional standard has always been a strong and fun format as well as being the backbone of the game.
@Zspear234
@Zspear234 5 лет назад
Duo Standard should just be called best-of-one with two decks.
@Vessarian
@Vessarian 5 лет назад
@grim triX Yep and this will mean a drop in deck variety because now people will have to build decks that have an answer to everything at once. Welcome cheese and cookie cutter decks :)
@Zspear234
@Zspear234 5 лет назад
I just enjoy sideboarding. Call me old fashioned. I don't enjoy the deck restrictions best-of-one puts in place. Oh, you didn't build your deck to have this answer to this one deck? Guess your out of luck. But it's for like every deck in the format
@Derael
@Derael 5 лет назад
@@Zspear234 Well, it literally is, also the name is slightly misleading. Since BO1 is standard arena format, so BO1 with 2 decks is Duo Standard. Someone just has a horrible naming sense, that's not the same Standard we know.
@Derael
@Derael 5 лет назад
@@Vessarian I disagree. I play Jeskai control in BO1, and I had 67% winrate in CEs with that deck, which is roughly on par with all T1 decks. You can build ton of good decks in BO1 that don't see much play in BO3 because Nexus exists. People just missed their opportunity, since everyone decided to be boring and just go with monored, instead of thinking about a good deck themselves.
@848harris
@848harris 4 года назад
just discovered this channel. Great content, congrats. Subscribed
@asomelord
@asomelord 2 года назад
I've been rewatching your old videos recently (mainly your podcasts while playing EDH on Moto) and youtube recommended this one. I assumed it was about Alchemy before looking at the release date
@TitusX17
@TitusX17 5 лет назад
I recommend commander for the next mythic championship personally... although it would be the longest event ever.
@ctrosejr
@ctrosejr 5 лет назад
I disagree with you, professor! The viewership numbers WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE EXACT SAME if they played a more traditional best of three standard format. The numbers WOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER. I tuned out the moment LSV was eliminated by a series of "coin flips". I realized "what's the point?" of watching if the tournament was not going to showcase the best Magic had to offer and, therefore, decided not to watch. I am sure other people did the same.
@gh0rochi363
@gh0rochi363 2 года назад
You’re a hardcore fan though. Most fans of anything are casual.
@maister59
@maister59 5 лет назад
Hey Professor! Great fan here! Wanted to know, I often saw a prop of the infamous Sensei's Divining Top on your shelf and have been looking for one for months! Where did you find that piece of collection? Love it ! Thanks heaps!
@the_names_rob
@the_names_rob 5 лет назад
Everytime he says, "many Magic the Gathering Players," it sounds prerecorded
@SFTortoise
@SFTortoise 5 лет назад
I think it would be fun and amazing if they did a Commander invitational Pro tour-
@ashadeofnight
@ashadeofnight 5 лет назад
All this is due to the fact WOTC took the decision not to get sideboarding programmed into Arena early in it's inception.
@papernes
@papernes 5 лет назад
Tom Padget Best of 3 with sideboarding was available on Arena prior to this event. It was already programmed in and worked properly.
@ashadeofnight
@ashadeofnight 5 лет назад
@@papernes Yeah after posting this comment my friend told me that. Why didn't they use it for esports then? Because they want it to resemble Best of 1 as that is how most people play Arena??
@movezig5
@movezig5 5 лет назад
@@ashadeofnight Because they want it to resemble Hearthstone. The corporate overlords don't want to make a great game, nor do they understand how to. They are only concerned with making money, and when they see another game is profitable, their only thought is "why isn't our game more like that?" And this, capitalism crushes creativity and individuality in its endless, short-sighted lust for personal gain. That or everyone at WotC is literally retarded.
@alexlyon4536
@alexlyon4536 5 лет назад
My first competitive rel event the life total tiebreaker rule actually came up. It was a tournament grinder the night before GP Ottawa, single elimination khans sealed. Last round they ran out of time and were closing the venue. I remember watching one table in the process of sideboarding for game 3. A player sided into as many duo lands as possible, and mulled to 3 cards before playing a dismal backwater, gaining one life, and winning the series.
@BladewingX
@BladewingX 5 лет назад
As a Judge on the topic of timed single/double elimination matches: It's not as uncommon as you might think, I've had to enforce this rule during 2018 and 2017. The Nationals Last Chance Qualifier and Trials were being held in this mode (although one of them changed for 2018, iirc). We announced the "Sudden Death" rule, as we called it, during each flight, and players always had some funny reactions to it.
@oblahuwtf5786
@oblahuwtf5786 5 лет назад
The only real option for a BO1 Tournament ist Round Robin. And thats only possible for a small group of players.
@jamesstell7200
@jamesstell7200 5 лет назад
What do you mean KBPTL isn't the best format in Magic?
@thomaspearson4385
@thomaspearson4385 5 лет назад
I wouldn't mind if you did more break downs on other formats. Maybe my group would like to try Duo Standard, but I think will keep our Triple Modern Singleton, thank you very much.
@thewalloby
@thewalloby 2 года назад
Professor do you mind making a video with a short overview of all MTG formats and their main rules? I think new players could use a video like that. A video with overview looking into different formats based on cost for playing, difficulty and level of complexity and most of all rotating vs non-rotating formats.
@robertfagg2709
@robertfagg2709 5 лет назад
It seems like it’s akin to how Yu-Gi-Oh! handles Duel Links at its events. It sounds nearly identical
@benrose99
@benrose99 5 лет назад
All i want to watch is a faithful recreation of paper magic on arena. Bo3 sideboarding it all goes together to make the game great. Chess clocks would work too! If time constraints are and issue i would be willing to sacrifice earlier rounds to bo1 if it meant when we got to the later matches it became a true display of the understanding of mtg. Maybe that would cause deckbuilding issues but im certain its better than duo standard.
@felixd7
@felixd7 5 лет назад
I like the idea of using different Decks in one round. It makes it more diverse. When i Look at the bracket now, its like Mono-red Aggro vs. Monored Aggro all over.
@Thestar17x
@Thestar17x 5 лет назад
As a yugioh player new to magic I found your channel and have been enjoying it,and the new time rule sounds like what yugioh implemented half a year ago where higher life wins at time.
@zwc76
@zwc76 5 лет назад
First time I ever heard the word "Smorgasborg". Is that an all-you-can-eat Startrek Borg restaurant?
@hugoeriksson6524
@hugoeriksson6524 5 лет назад
It’s a Swedish meal (Smörgås = sandwich)
@zwc76
@zwc76 5 лет назад
@@hugoeriksson6524 I know. I'm Swedish. My reaction was that it was pronounced SmorgasborG and not SmorgasborD. :D
@zwc76
@zwc76 5 лет назад
And it's not really a meal. Smörgåsbord refers to plenty of options, it could be a buffet, but it could also be a lot of in-game options.
@swebartender4697
@swebartender4697 5 лет назад
sort off, smorgasbord (or smörgåsbord, how it's spelled in sweden) means sandwich table. It's more off a appetizer table. you usually see them on big family event (holidays like easter) or on big other events like churchs etc. there is no rule on what you can have on the table. but it's to have fruits, small sandwiches, ham and chess. and something called smörgåstårta (means sandwich cake) which is a shrimp cake. Edit: just for fun, smörgås is based on the word smör (butter) and gås (which is goose). so sandwich in swedish if you translate it 100% means butter goose
@davedussault7251
@davedussault7251 5 лет назад
Subsistence is futile.
@FraterPooP
@FraterPooP 5 лет назад
its like EA designed the format... burn it with fire. right now.
@phoenistrasza2176
@phoenistrasza2176 5 лет назад
If EA created this, it would have an entry fee and a special Sidebouard DLC for only 99,99$
@Waldestroy
@Waldestroy 5 лет назад
Agreed. Also, Wizards please show Pauper more love . I really like the idea of Wizards producing a pauper deck like you said in other video
@phillipmele8533
@phillipmele8533 5 лет назад
“No sideboarding” Y I K E S
@neutralggesports
@neutralggesports 5 лет назад
Thank god, I thought you were going to say Brawl.
@JohnSmith-ty9cr
@JohnSmith-ty9cr 5 лет назад
Me too XD far too many people talking shit about it for no reason was one of the reasons it failed I believe, really don't need more of those
@Sanguinegamingz
@Sanguinegamingz 5 лет назад
Same 😂
@nerdstrong
@nerdstrong 3 года назад
Hello Prof., I was an old magic grinder back in the day and I just found your channel a couple months ago when you put up an analysis video about Legends of Runeterra. Runeterra is my go-to game atm but if I were ever to come back to magic fulltime I would hope that the major tournaments are best of 3 Swiss with sideboard. I personally think they came up with this format to present familiarity with how Hearthstone does tournaments which is fine for a game that relies on RNG and has limited player interaction. It just doesn't translate well to a game as nuanced as MtG.
@AlaskaDog907
@AlaskaDog907 3 года назад
Duo standard sounds awesome! It would be great to break out another deck at FNM but because it's a "tournament" I gotta sit and play the same one for four hours. My decks are usually budget price range but it would be really unfair to players with less money though. When I sit down across a 16 year old kid I always think about how cool it would be if wizards gave out high powered promos to kids that get good grades. The video store where I grew up would give you a free rental for every A on your report card, Was nice.
@GamePodify
@GamePodify 5 лет назад
Stopped playing Heartstone years ago because it's bad development. Recently started playing Magic and love the complexity and the ability to play in real life. The only thing which could make me stop playing Magic now I think is to turn in to Heartstone
@Nitrodino7875
@Nitrodino7875 5 лет назад
Bad development how?
@Nitrodino7875
@Nitrodino7875 5 лет назад
The new expansions got you into a rut?
@TheMayor-lr8cn
@TheMayor-lr8cn 5 лет назад
Mine says unavailable as well
@chazman87784
@chazman87784 5 лет назад
skipped out on this event but i can probably guess how it went. most people played mono red no brain aggro and either drew a good starting hand or just lost. sounds very interesting and fun to watch.
@ShadowJFX
@ShadowJFX 5 лет назад
That Weebwalker pack on the shelf! i need it!
@jonado7524
@jonado7524 5 лет назад
totally agree prof. the tour was a pure coinflip
@elijahwindle3579
@elijahwindle3579 4 года назад
I really thought this was gonna be about brawl
@brentgould958
@brentgould958 3 года назад
Me too and I like brawl
@Brunautyful
@Brunautyful 3 года назад
How he mentioned every Player by name
@samuelhigh7831
@samuelhigh7831 5 лет назад
I feel like Duos standard would work, very well actually as a sealed or draft event with 40 card decks.
@harrisonj.3615
@harrisonj.3615 5 лет назад
A great review of a shitty format. Thanks prof!
@sirshadowstep9984
@sirshadowstep9984 5 лет назад
Nice pfp
@USERNAME12345678961
@USERNAME12345678961 5 лет назад
For those having issues seeing this, use a vpn. It worked for me
@RatkingNyxu
@RatkingNyxu 5 лет назад
Would a Warmachine style two list format work? Bring two decks. You and your opponent can read each others lists, and choose the deck you want to play in secret.
@emeraldboar5923
@emeraldboar5923 5 лет назад
Life Totals were used for the first year of the Pro Tour. It was later removed.
@iTiago98
@iTiago98 5 лет назад
I just want the MTGO's timer implemented in Arena. I understand that MTGO's timer isn't as dynamic as the current one, and the game would be harder to get into, having a slow opponent may bore you out of it. But at least I would like it to be the timer in Traditional (best of three), so that the noobies can get hooked into the game, but the current paper and mtgo players can have a format where you can take your time in a convoluted and difficult decision. The one we have at the moment just makes it so I can't think straight while it is ticking down. Also I think that Swiss with top8 Best-of-three with mtgo's timer (and with sideboard, of course) would be the right format to have an event on Arena, so that we can watch high skill and thoughtful gameplay.
@AngelicDirt
@AngelicDirt 5 лет назад
How bout... Standard. Bo3. Like Mister Garfield intended. Yeesh... had to go play PTCGO for a week it was so bad. :v ... 10/10, would watch and gripe along with again. Cathartic af. Thanks. :3
@cakemeister6485
@cakemeister6485 5 лет назад
Doctor Garfield, be respectful. :p
@iandick1364
@iandick1364 5 лет назад
Duo standard could work but it needs a few changes. No more then four copies of a single card between both decks. The player going second on first turn may scry one before play begins. On subsequent rounds both players may choose which of their decks to play. There exists a single ten card sidebar from which both decks may trade cards, and yes this means a card may start in one deck and endup in another. Edit: on round two and three the last rounds winner must declare if they are switching decks or not before the loosing player chooses to change.
@fgebus.4582
@fgebus.4582 5 лет назад
When I first learned how to play magic, my brothers and I used a format they called "Lunchroom Rules" 40 card deck, no sideboard, and on your first turn you play all the lands in your hand, but you only get 1 land drop after your first turn. Games were really fast, and I got to learn how to play fairly quickly while having a lot of fun. We haven't played like that in years, but I think a fast format similar to that would be a fun experiment.
@danacoleman4007
@danacoleman4007 5 лет назад
That would probably result in a lot of first turn kills.
@fgebus.4582
@fgebus.4582 4 года назад
@@danacoleman4007 We played around Unlimited to Ice Age decks at the time, casting costs were a lot higher back then so it kind of evened out actually. Plus none of us played Red either so nobody had haste.
@ultimateo621
@ultimateo621 5 лет назад
0:35 He did it! He said the thing!
@lexvandervelden5586
@lexvandervelden5586 5 лет назад
"If you are having fun, you are doing it right" XD
@JalebJay
@JalebJay 5 лет назад
When I heard "duo standard" I thought you were talking about extended after Zendikar came out.
@rodeofrancisco6130
@rodeofrancisco6130 5 лет назад
Standard two headed giant sounds awesome though..
@iamhatefield
@iamhatefield 5 лет назад
I couldn't get through the second's day broadcast. It only made my dislike for esper control grow more.
@scotdempsey3897
@scotdempsey3897 5 лет назад
And it encouraged everyone in Arena to play esper control this week. Made me switch to draft after I finished my dailies. It's a good deck but not when everyone is playing it.
@pipsdontlie3031
@pipsdontlie3031 5 лет назад
Esper control is way more healthy than mono red. Control actually takes brains to play.
@maileesaeya3614
@maileesaeya3614 5 лет назад
@@pipsdontlie3031 I'm speaking as a Control player here where I say that is incredibly immature and not remotely accurate. I've played with and tested mono-red aggro and burn decks, various flavors of midrange, combo decks, and I'll say that they all take brains to play. An aggressive red deck looks simpler because it has a proactive game plan, but that doesn't mean it requires less thought than Control, just that the lines of play are OFTEN clearer. Don't believe me? Try watching the coverage of PT Fate Reforged, where Lee Shi Tian and Seth Manfield made Top 8 with burn lists, and had to carefully manage their resources (a standout being Tian facing off against an Abzan player with Kitchen Finks in his deck to really disrupt the burn plan).
@pipsdontlie3031
@pipsdontlie3031 5 лет назад
@@maileesaeya3614 I've played much aggro, and the closest thing that aggro get's to big thonk plays is having to play against a control deck. Otherwise you jsut slam down everything you can. If lines of play are clearer, it is simpler to play. I'm not insulting the archetype, but any format without control to counter aggro is not the format I want to be in, because aggro mirror matches are basically just a coin flip and take no thought. This isn't entirely true for every aggro deck of course, but especially for mono red, that's just what the deck is. Then again, I'm a control player generally so of course I'm a bit biased, and obviously I don't disregard players who play aggro decks or even think that control always requires the most amount of thought, but it is pretty naive or disingenuous to imply that the amount of thought that goes into holding back some attackers because they might have settle in hand, vs having to evaluate if you should counter the threat or wait for a sweeper to get rid of it because you need removal for their bigger threats and so on. Add that to considerations of cards that WotC has been printing like hot cakes for anti control, because people don't like watching interactive long matches but rather short or slightly less short "flashy" aggro matches. Carnage Tyrant etc. I'm just not sympathetic that Esper Control is able to beat aggro decks, because I like control and personally feel that most people who don't, don't really want to play magic, they just wanna play a coin flipping simulator with a little extra though into it.
@freezerburnhead3861
@freezerburnhead3861 5 лет назад
@@pipsdontlie3031 I don't like control or aggro, they are the most unfriendly and not fun decks to play against, I want to be able to actually play my deck when playing magic not die after putting out 2 cards or sit there for 40 minutes watching All my cards go directly into the graveyard.
@toxictonic12888
@toxictonic12888 5 лет назад
"Video unavailable"
@Gmanu29
@Gmanu29 3 года назад
Hello Professor! Just got into playing mtg,i just wanna ask is there a format where you cant use expensive cards?
@cax1175
@cax1175 2 года назад
Pauper
@UnknowableSir
@UnknowableSir 5 лет назад
Next mythic championship will be 4 player triple elimination brawl
@wren7818
@wren7818 5 лет назад
The fact that I can play league of legends without my computer overheating and not MTGA is repugnant. A card game should not take more resources than a MOBA.
@bobby45825
@bobby45825 5 лет назад
Especially a moba with, usually, 10 people simultaneously interacting with each other in real time, whereas mtga is just... you and me.
@ziongray7880
@ziongray7880 5 лет назад
League doesn’t take much to run tbh tho.
@wren7818
@wren7818 5 лет назад
@@ziongray7880 My point is that a card game shouldn't be overheating my computer. where a real time game doesn't. There can be steps taken so that the game can be accessible.
@danacoleman4007
@danacoleman4007 5 лет назад
Code much?
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