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The Worst Matchup in Smash History was in Brawl(It's not Metaknight) 

Brawlternative
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Metaknight has always plagued the top level of Brawl’s competitive scene, dominating the entire cast throughout the game’s history - which makes it even more surprising to learn that there is a far, far worse matchup buried deep within one of the more obscure character choices.
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Music used:
Intro / Cosmic Psycho - Begin
1:02 / Pizza Tower - A Secret Under the Debris (The Ancient Cheese Secret)
7:17 / Perfect Collection Ys III - Believe in my Heart (Special Arrange Version)
Outro / Super Smash Bros. Brawl - All-Star Rest Area
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Video footage credits:
-GB2: Leon vs Shaky - • [GB2] W½F - Leon (Mart...
-Conflict 5: Mr R vs Leon(Marth grab release dair Metaknight clip) - • Conflict 5 WF -SSBB- M...
-VGBC Metagame Minute - • Metagame Minute Ep6: G...
-MK Intro clip/Infinite Dimensional Cape(CW: banned player) - • Apex 2012 - SSBB Teams...
-Steve Intro clip - • あcola (Steve) vs Light...
-Fox intro clip - • SSC 2022 GRAND FINALS ...
-Bayonetta intro clip(CW: banned player, I used it because it’s the most famous Smash 4 Bayo clip) - • EVO 2018: SMASH 4 - Ca...
-Revival of Brawl(CW: banned player) - • Revival of Brawl - Sal...
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If you have any questions about my content, please @ or DM me on Twitter @Brawlternative or send a message to my personal Instagram account @sjsaksma.
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The next video I’m working on features all of the obscure, character-specific tech found in Brawl. This game's got some weird stuff. Thanks for your support! New content coming soon.
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Комментарии : 1,4 тыс.   
@Brawlternative
@Brawlternative Месяц назад
Absolutely floored to have so many people excited for new Brawl content in the year of our lord 2024. Been really enjoying going through all the discussions in the comments talking about matchups. Honestly just happy to see Brawl discourse in general :) There's also a second video in the works already! Production is nearly done, aiming to drop it sometime in the middle of next week. Keep your eyes peeled :) starting to believe that 2024 might TRULY be the year of Brawl :)
@BrawlCentral
@BrawlCentral Месяц назад
Glad to hear it
@nintendom7293
@nintendom7293 Месяц назад
Can't wait
@nintendom7293
@nintendom7293 Месяц назад
You just got 4 thousand subscribers. I can not wait for the future of your channel and the brawl community because of your impact. Congratulations.
@thanyou
@thanyou Месяц назад
Bless the algorithm. First, a video on the history of Competitive Giant Melee, then a video about the worst matchup that I never even imagined.
@Brawlternative
@Brawlternative Месяц назад
@@thanyou I got that one too! Was an absolute banger video
@maneruloquendero
@maneruloquendero Месяц назад
As a Ness main, it's very stressful when my shirt gets grabbed by a door knob bc there's the possibility my shirt gets stuck again when the door knob releases it, potentially leaving me trapped forever
@plushblading
@plushblading Месяц назад
Bruh 😭
@Gnolte
@Gnolte Месяц назад
Personally I've dealt with the knobs by changing all my doors to those that open by sliding them sideways and never going outside alone so in the worst case i have someone that can save me I don't know anyone that has been stuck for more than a week but I have a couple traumatized friends that stopped wearing shirts altogether
@Brawlternative
@Brawlternative Месяц назад
Got an actual laugh out of me, wp
@Infoagemage
@Infoagemage Месяц назад
PK karma
@casualbird7671
@casualbird7671 Месяц назад
Not the door knob
@AURAxSTAR
@AURAxSTAR Месяц назад
starting a brawl channel in 2024 is not something i ever expected anyone to do but i'm all here for it, banger video!
@doggies4dinner
@doggies4dinner Месяц назад
Thanks man!
@notlucas6859
@notlucas6859 Месяц назад
i still play brawl in 2024 with my brother, idc what anyone game says when MK isnt being played that game is soo fun
@TermoZayko
@TermoZayko Месяц назад
@@notlucas6859mk is still fun
@Super_star_remix
@Super_star_remix Месяц назад
Makes me want to start a smash 4 channel
@demonssinglosongs
@demonssinglosongs Месяц назад
@@Super_star_remixsomeone needs to, that was a game where marth could do jab 1 into fsmash
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 Месяц назад
Feels like “you just grab people” is a secondary motto of this game next to “he puts the meta into meta knight”
@btf_flotsam478
@btf_flotsam478 Месяц назад
Sometimes, it feels like it's the other way around.
@trax_42
@trax_42 Месяц назад
He makes it sound easy, but grabbing was actually not that easy. Especially with SDI being OP in the game, you could survive long, regularly combo breaking, etc. As a veteran and someone who played the game at high level and actually labbed the game, it was fun. A lot of freedom in how to approach MUs. AND this game was never patched. If the game would have had at least 2 good patches over time, it could have become the best game of the series. Smash 4 is pure garbage and Ultimate, well, its a matter of taste i guess. The game is boring x)
@appliedatoms7066
@appliedatoms7066 Месяц назад
There's a decently strong argument that this is why Wobbling took years to be banned. When the direct successor to your game gives half the cast infinite grabs and nobody cares, one character having them doesn't really raise eyebrows.
@ultimaterecoil1136
@ultimaterecoil1136 Месяц назад
The thing is that grabbing being this strong isn’t as strong as it initially seems. Remember this is the game where any approach that isn’t Ariel or a brisk walk forward risk tripping. Camping is very effective in brawl in part due to this. Getting in to get a grab can be very challenging more so then other smash games depending on the matchup ( not in this specific case though)
@kaloncpu57
@kaloncpu57 Месяц назад
"Would hate to have to play neutral again, on that stock, after I won it that first time" is such a good line lmao
@bacheese
@bacheese Месяц назад
PLEASE become the AsumSaus of Brawl. I need somebody to teach me about the history of my childhood game
@beetlepainter00
@beetlepainter00 Месяц назад
100% agree
@MindReader_PEI
@MindReader_PEI Месяц назад
hello bacheese
@franuki1757
@franuki1757 Месяц назад
>history >Of childhood game Bro you lived the history.
@MindReader_PEI
@MindReader_PEI Месяц назад
@@franuki1757 Personally I played Brawl as a kid but I know very little of its competitive intricacies (I started getting into competitive smash after Smash 4 came out), I'd imagine BaCheese is in the same boat based on their comment
@bacheese
@bacheese Месяц назад
@@franuki1757 Yeah and I know nothing about its COMPETITIVE history I meant. I watch Coney tell tales of players I've never heard of that are actually so sick, like MikeHaze versus Ook. I also wish I knew more about the meta, like this video teaches
@whereisspacebar2991
@whereisspacebar2991 Месяц назад
Someone please show this to Coney. He'd love this channel.
@jamesprumos7775
@jamesprumos7775 Месяц назад
Especially this vid because he loves Brawl Ness and can give us more Brawl stories from back in the day.
@Zazzles1280
@Zazzles1280 Месяц назад
Yes we all need more coney brawl content
@IKEA_SSB
@IKEA_SSB Месяц назад
*someone remind him about the charged smash channel he made*
@elijahlaferney6414
@elijahlaferney6414 Месяц назад
this comment is too accurate
@8saiharamasukoi
@8saiharamasukoi Месяц назад
SHALL WE?
@Muggz
@Muggz Месяц назад
The worst matchup in Smash isn't Brawl's NES vs. Marth, it's me vs. anyone else at all. Character doesn't matter - I will lose.
@poisonedmaple6874
@poisonedmaple6874 12 дней назад
alright but what if you fought me
@Muggz
@Muggz 11 дней назад
@@poisonedmaple6874 Haha we could put that to the test... but I'd just embarrass myself!
@ThunderMouse1999
@ThunderMouse1999 9 дней назад
What if it’s a ditto matchup
@MarMaxGaming
@MarMaxGaming 7 дней назад
lol lets be on a team
@TheMe9595
@TheMe9595 Месяц назад
Another awful matchup in brawl that doesn’t quite come to this is dedede vs Mario and Luigi. He had a standing infinite against both of them with down throw. It’s not even hard to do. Both characters rely on being in your face (although Mario’s fireballs are a pretty decent projectile) so they don’t really have a way to stay away from the grab.
@Brawlternative
@Brawlternative Месяц назад
In the early stages of research for this video, I ran into a lot of REALLY bad matchups. Dedede v Luigi was up there with Olimar v Ganon, Dedede v Donkey Kong, Icies v Bowser, etc etc. You're absolutely right, it was undoubtedly one of the worst matchups in the game. Dedede in general was a menace, love that dude :)
@0megaFan
@0megaFan Месяц назад
@@Brawlternative I KNEW I was right to main him as a kid
@jamesknapp64
@jamesknapp64 Месяц назад
Always interesting to hear what is the meta on competative when you only played casual
@notmewastaken
@notmewastaken Месяц назад
@@jamesknapp64 Next time someone picks a bad character when I’m just playing vs my mates, I’m just gonna hit them with the “oh so you’re picking off-meta interesting”
@definitelynotanAIchatbot
@definitelynotanAIchatbot Месяц назад
​@Brawlternative What means "Icies"?! PLEASE TELLING ME! 😭
@SteamAPunk
@SteamAPunk Месяц назад
The production quality for a channel this small is nutz
@HKip
@HKip Месяц назад
This is his first vid and it already has 10K AND hit the algorithm. This guy is making it
@ascaredmilipede7971
@ascaredmilipede7971 Месяц назад
Seen more and more of this kind of channel pop-up lately. Guy prob already has experience with editing and maybe even YT and chose his special niche.
@jamesknapp64
@jamesknapp64 Месяц назад
Yeah this was production quality of 50k+ sub channel
@trianglegodoftriangles
@trianglegodoftriangles Месяц назад
Smash players complain about having to memorize combos and command inputs in traditional fighters but i swear smash has some of the most niche nonsensical character specific mechanics and interactions ever. Great video!
@Baconsoap71
@Baconsoap71 Месяц назад
Yea I played smash forever and always thought traditional fighters were “overly complex” but once I actually tried them they literally make 100x more sense than smash
@kingvelard
@kingvelard Месяц назад
​@@Baconsoap71i mostly play anime fighting games but I've played smash since melee. i was playing smash 5 with someone and he told me anime fighters were too difficult for him and the inputs were too hard on his hands. he was a joker player who consistently hit drag down aerial confirms over netplay. genuinely whenever smash players tell me traditional fighting games are too much for them it is genuinely all in their heads it is always something they've convinced themselves is true but does not hold up at all if you spend a few days playing
@jsrhedgehog9981
@jsrhedgehog9981 Месяц назад
​@kingvelard I think the thing about it is that smash is a PLATFORMER first. Understanding walking, running, double jumping, etc. is really a nonexistent hurdle to platforming players. Once that skill floor is reached, it's a matter of "opponent is in front of me, I'll forward air. Opponent is above me, I'll down air." I'm off stage? Double jump to up B". From my perspective, other fighting games are harder to pick up because each character has unique moves ON TOP of unique combos. Every character (save a few) has the EXACT same move list. (I'm learning guilty Gear strive and am pissed that need to learn what a f*cking Roman cancel is in order to perform a basic combo string. Whereas, in smash, the skill floor is a lot lower. I don't have to go through a 3 hour tutorial to be able to beat a level 9 CPU or, GOD FORBID, Be able to PLAY the campaign.
@EGadjo
@EGadjo Месяц назад
I think the percent and knockback system also helps, at least at lower levels of play, with a very common newbie frustration in any fighting game: getting the crap comboed out of you and not being able to do anything about it because you don't know how to respond to that yet. Obvs smash still has stupid combos but at lower levels of play it's an effective buffer against that. The more damaged you are, the less comboable you are.
@Creepo_J
@Creepo_J Месяц назад
Ledgetrumps being circle motions RAR reverse aerial rush is like doing a dragon punch SDI smash directional influence and DI making you input directions every which way
@anotherpersonfromnorfolk1587
@anotherpersonfromnorfolk1587 Месяц назад
As a Ness main, who had gotten used to a lack of brawlposting. Hearing the name "Marth" activated my fight/flight response
@cfino9
@cfino9 Месяц назад
lmao
@HeartAce59
@HeartAce59 3 дня назад
Tfw when I am both a Ness and Marth main, but in Brawl I actually mained Ike. I feel like I must have dodged a bullet here.
@mercury6032
@mercury6032 Месяц назад
Thank you for explaining the jank brawl grabs. I always heard about the marth vs ness infinite but nobody really explained it to that detail. A 31f advantage move that can chain into itself is pretty insane lol
@HappyCardinal-se4wg
@HappyCardinal-se4wg Месяц назад
What is that profile picture 😂😂😂
@Brawlternative
@Brawlternative Месяц назад
@@HappyCardinal-se4wg no bully on my Brawl video
@theSato
@theSato Месяц назад
@@HappyCardinal-se4wg my good sir it is a furry, welcome to the internet, you must be new here if it grabbed your attention that hard
@mTricK64
@mTricK64 Месяц назад
You have to talk about how oppressive was Diddy Kong in the late stages of the competitive scene, some pro players from the day even think that Diddy Kong was the actual best character in Brawl.
@ashermack2543
@ashermack2543 Месяц назад
Banana
@SweetzTheOne
@SweetzTheOne Месяц назад
he wasnt but go off!
@rac1equalsbestgame853
@rac1equalsbestgame853 Месяц назад
Brawl Diddy Kong was insane
@cfino9
@cfino9 Месяц назад
when you say late stages of competitive scene, you mean today? P1 is unstoppable.
@Heowolf
@Heowolf 29 дней назад
Diddy is a solid #2, having an OP gimmick and solid moves doesn't beat a complete bullshit moveset and recovery. Source: I'm old and played brawl competitively in MD/VA/FL
@JAMllostthegame
@JAMllostthegame Месяц назад
I think I remember at one point the Ganon:Olimar MU was considered 0:100 by the Ganons. I don't remember the specifics, but I'd imagine it was a combination of Ganon being overall bad, Olimar being overall good, and Pikmin latching on to Ganon means that some of his moves just suffered insane lag for hitting them off him. And I think to add on to Ness, I believe both he and Lucas had a bunch of Melee Ness' stats just copy and pasted and why Ness suffers bad grab shenanigans in Melee (not as bad as in Brawl though).
@Brawlternative
@Brawlternative Месяц назад
I remember that too! In the early stages of this video, I came across a Smashboards post of people complaining about the Ganon v Olimar matchup. I wasn't able to find anything super concrete(which is why I eventually settled on Marth v Ness) but I had no idea that people hated the matchup THAT much.
@LotS-quag
@LotS-quag Месяц назад
I also recall Ganon:Sheik being considered 0:100 by a number of people.
@nickmacleod2368
@nickmacleod2368 Месяц назад
second on Ganon:Sheik being 0:100, I don't remember the specifics but wasn't chain basically unbeatable as ganon? Also I seem to remember Ganon:ICs being busted from desynced blizzards.
@Brawlternative
@Brawlternative Месяц назад
@@nickmacleod2368 Been getting a TON of people saying Ganon v Sheik is horrible. I didn't see anybody talking about that matchup while initially browsing Smashboards, but when you go out of your way to search for the matchup specifically? Yeah. It looks BAD bad. Might actually be worse than Marth v Ness. Love seeing so much discussion bout matchups :)
@Sapreme
@Sapreme Месяц назад
There were a few other 0:100 matchups before SDI was discovered. Olimar vs Luigi was considered unwinnable because jab-upb was 100% guarantee no matter the range or hitbox. Ike vs Ganon was like 95:5 because all Ike had to do was literally hold A and the autojabs would jabcancel the ganon all the way across the stage and end in a 1-2-3 jab combo.
@pbz7572
@pbz7572 Месяц назад
Before watching the video & going by the thumbnail, I’m gonna assume the video is about Marth vs Ness in Brawl
@PlaidTuxedo
@PlaidTuxedo Месяц назад
seems like more of a skill issue
@strangejune
@strangejune Месяц назад
a skilled roy can beat any fox
@yungmuney5903
@yungmuney5903 Месяц назад
Skilled ness can beat any marth
@TheEvilCheesecake
@TheEvilCheesecake Месяц назад
Choosing to play Brawl is a skill issue, yes.
@leonardo9259
@leonardo9259 Месяц назад
*smash ​@@TheEvilCheesecake
@Zekersaurusrex
@Zekersaurusrex 10 дней назад
Yeah, an issue of skill being borderline irrelevant.
@weiyezhang2906
@weiyezhang2906 Месяц назад
Commenting for youtube interaction algorithm
@crepeobreak8219
@crepeobreak8219 Месяц назад
Responding for RU-vid interaction algorithm
@raven-a
@raven-a Месяц назад
Duck dat sheep
@manoman884
@manoman884 Месяц назад
Same great vid
@flubberdubbert
@flubberdubbert Месяц назад
Replying for algorithm
@iamspikefire
@iamspikefire Месяц назад
please bless this channel, algorithm god
@demitrischoenwald1436
@demitrischoenwald1436 Месяц назад
All the Smash content I've ever seen about Brawl is about how "bad" it was competitively, but nobody ever talks about just *how bad* the spaghetti code is. I've watched the three videos you've posted backwards and let me just say, this is the most entertaining SSB subject I've ever had the pleasure of watching. I love Brawl, and I will probably never play another Smash game in my lifetime unless I end up with kids I want to raise right. I wanna see more details of the madness that is this twisted little game.
@willsmish2837
@willsmish2837 7 дней назад
not even spaghetti code. clearly intentional mechanics
@RipplePuff_
@RipplePuff_ Месяц назад
As someone who plays Brawl to this day and has been ranked in 2019 to current... This is absolutely amazing content and what a Brawl lover myself has been dying for. Absolutely love it! Keep it up!
@cfino9
@cfino9 Месяц назад
It's happening lol.
@BagelEnjoyer
@BagelEnjoyer Месяц назад
OH HEY IT'S THAT GUY/GAL/SMTH ELSE. I HOPE YOUR MENTAL HEALTH IS IMPROVING AND THAT YOU'RE GETTING TO A MORE STABLE PLACE IN LIFE
@raviolieothedisgustingsupe4504
@raviolieothedisgustingsupe4504 Месяц назад
thank god, ive been dying for more brawl content, and coney's war stories every few months isnt enough to fill the gap
@KingKalashnikov
@KingKalashnikov Месяц назад
HIGH QUALITY BRAWL CONTENT? IN MY 2024? WAKE ME UP. IM DREAMING.
@CommentPositionInformer
@CommentPositionInformer Месяц назад
Terrible choice. You do NOT want to wake up from this dream.
@KingKalashnikov
@KingKalashnikov Месяц назад
@@CommentPositionInformer Realest shit I've ever heard.
@cfino9
@cfino9 Месяц назад
it's happening
@Eddiefrb
@Eddiefrb Месяц назад
Crazy good content. Brawl is lowkey fascinating and cool as fuck. Looking forward to the next one
@Moss_Dude
@Moss_Dude Месяц назад
Wait, a new Brawl channel made just now? A legacy smash channel dedicated to something OTHER THAN MELEE??? COUNT ME THE HELL IN!!!
@sirdabsalot1yt83
@sirdabsalot1yt83 Месяц назад
I was actually expecting the "worst matchup" to be Ness vs. Rosalina in smash 4, but this matchup is pretty terrible too. Ness just can't catch a break 😂
@fruitsalad2379
@fruitsalad2379 Месяц назад
Definitely not as bad as Marth Ness in brawl While it's near impossible to avoid being grabbed in general, it's a little more doable to avoid getting put offstage without a jump, as not every hit situation will result in that. Still very bad though Corrin vs Ness in smash 4 was arguably just as bad as Rosalina due to Corrin having a nuclear counter that almost always killed Ness when he tried to recover
@heavylobster4339
@heavylobster4339 Месяц назад
Bad Brawl matchups are next-level cancer compared to anything in Smash 4, even Bayo vs. Ganon, which is pretty darn bad.
@ValToadstool
@ValToadstool Месяц назад
​@fruitsalad2379 corrin destroys ness but it's a lot harder to land a counter than it is to use gravitational pull, and if you miss you're in a bad situation. Honestly I'd say outranging Ness with your sword is a bigger factor in the matchup
@rooklordofmagic
@rooklordofmagic Месяц назад
I saw this video and i knew instantly it was gonna be marth ness. I accidentally did the chain grab to a friend and made him stop playing ness That matchup is like 120:-20 its so damn lopsided
@1stCallipostle
@1stCallipostle Месяц назад
​@@heavylobster4339 I dunno man. Brawl has the healthier top 1 pick by, in my opinion, an undeniably fat margin. That trickles down to average level of being asstastic being lower, though the peaks are no doubt higher.
@aab1254
@aab1254 Месяц назад
Well paced, great editing, understandable at any level, informative, this has it all. Awesome vid
@SmilePecoSmile
@SmilePecoSmile 29 дней назад
In-depth non-Melee videos are always so fascinating to me. It feels like learning Melee all over again. Good work.
@8saiharamasukoi
@8saiharamasukoi Месяц назад
fantastic video. it means so much to me @ 9:49 where you talk about Brawl being more than just Meta Knight. like i totally agree, looking back Brawl does seem like it was a fever dream, but damn that fever dream meant a lot to me. i never played Brawl competitively (i only entered one tournament), but it holds such a special, immovable place in my heart for all the passion my friend group had for it. i was the guy in our group that knew how to DACUS. our little rivalries really compelled a lot of drunken party nights. it makes me so happy whenever i see someone else, IRL or online, that didn't just toss this game aside because it wasn't Melee (as great as Melee is). also, the editing and effects work in this vid is gorgeous and so chill. i instantly hit that like & subscribe when i started watching, keep it up my dude
@Brawlternative
@Brawlternative Месяц назад
Thanks so much for watching! I'm glad my little video can bring some of those memories back up :)
@22imon
@22imon Месяц назад
did not expect such a high quality video from such a small channel, thanks youtube algorithm
@Andr0meda115
@Andr0meda115 Месяц назад
Incredible stuff! I am pleased to see someone speaking about Brawl beyond the surface level write-offs that you often see when the topic comes up in videos (Tripping, MK, IC's, etc.) Looking forward to more!
@MarMaxGaming
@MarMaxGaming 7 дней назад
super epic video, loved all of the breakdowns and visuals! you did a fantastic job!
@Indago
@Indago Месяц назад
Love the editing on this! And the whole aesthetic this video has honestly. Keep it up man!
@runaway74
@runaway74 Месяц назад
me when my buddy's secret youtube channel ends up in my recommended:
@rjfx4693
@rjfx4693 Месяц назад
I was shocked to see a video of this quality coming from such a small creator, keep up the good work man.
@Engalfe44
@Engalfe44 Месяц назад
Amazing video, would love to see more brawl or smash content in general from you!
@addfire4814
@addfire4814 21 день назад
this is a really well-edited and well-narrated video!
@hexeffex2426
@hexeffex2426 Месяц назад
189 subscribers! Got damn the production quality is great this is some asumsaus tier visuals.
@TermoZayko
@TermoZayko Месяц назад
damn did they really get that much more in an hour 1.04k now
@8saiharamasukoi
@8saiharamasukoi Месяц назад
3 HOURS AGO??? 1.57K NOW
@pbz7572
@pbz7572 Месяц назад
I really REALLY hope you keep making Brawl videos in this style. You built up the context to the MU reveal by explaining the game mechanics so well. Thanks for the great watch!
@elijahkeay3906
@elijahkeay3906 Месяц назад
Fantastic video! I love some good brawl posting. There is so much strange and fascinating stuff about this game that has been lost to time
@Dribin
@Dribin 20 дней назад
Great vid, looking forward to more brawl content in the future 😊
@imcoral
@imcoral Месяц назад
huge production value & quality research & communication for a small channel - i was here in the first 500
@jakeberry2165
@jakeberry2165 Месяц назад
your editing is nuts man
@LushSSB
@LushSSB Месяц назад
This was really well made. Hope to see more brawl videos soon, really interesting game with a lot of forgotten tech
@Squerk_
@Squerk_ Месяц назад
This video was so well put together and the editing was awesome. Can't wait to see what else you've got!
@ShadyProductionsMC
@ShadyProductionsMC Месяц назад
I just assumed this was a much larger channel until I was the sub count. You are going to blow up
@demonssinglosongs
@demonssinglosongs Месяц назад
i could never play brawl competitively myself, but ive been fascinated by it since m2k dropped his tier list in 2020. so many characters have these crazy options that nobody talks about and i kinda wish they did. if i could say one thing - i wish you elaborated more on what makes the matchup worse for ness than lucas, since ness is considered a better character. im assuming its because lucas’ aerials have better range but i have no idea. outside of that this video is really good and im excited to see more videos from you, the thing about how grabs work and wario getting grab-released is something i never knew about
@Brawlternative
@Brawlternative Месяц назад
I'll try to cover this in another video(or maybe a Short?) but it boils down to movement. Lucas has a tether recovery, making him much more survivable offstage. Lucas' PK Thunder also goes almost 2x the length of Ness' PK Thunder, giving him significantly more options to recover. In neutral, it's still a reallllly bad matchup for Lucas but his aerials are quicker & easier to space while PK Fire gives him more options to wall out approaches. Lucas also has a lot more crazy movement tech(I'll be going over this more in my next video) which can make it more difficult to grab on bigger stages. Like I said, it's still not a LOT, but it's certainly a lot harder for Marth to force a grab on Lucas than Ness. Thanks for the question!! Hope I cleared it up a bit for you :)
@demonssinglosongs
@demonssinglosongs Месяц назад
@@Brawlternativeah thanks for responding! that makes a ton of sense, saw the new video and i can see how in some niche cases he’d have some cool options to get out of marth’s effective range, even if its only for a short while longer
@WindlessZephyr
@WindlessZephyr Месяц назад
this is fantastic content. i knew instantly from the title alone what the matchup would be though lmao. good ol' competitive brawl days, i loved 'em so much
@SuperSilver7591
@SuperSilver7591 Месяц назад
Very happy to see a small channel blow up like this! Looking forward to more stuff
@delor42
@delor42 Месяц назад
Absolutely crazy this is your first video. I went to your channel expecting a catalog of content, but this is it. Hold my sub, I'm looking forward to seeing more of you.
@ninja1167.
@ninja1167. Месяц назад
Wow this is really sick to see! As someone who plays brawl competitively nowadays, it's really nice to see content like this. Personally, while Ness vs Marth is a horrible matchup, I'm not sure if it is definitively the worst, with matchups like meta knight vs ganon, olimar vs ganon, falco vs ganon, dedede vs donkey kong, and stuff ilke that. It is up there for sure and can definitely be argued for, but I think these are all up there as well.
@Brawlternative
@Brawlternative Месяц назад
I absolutely agree! I used to host local basement tourneys in 2014 and DLA would attend & crush us all, so I'm a bit Ganon pilled. In the end, it's up for contention and I think that's great!
@cfino9
@cfino9 Месяц назад
@@BrawlternativeDLA is a local legend and definitely changed my mind about the ganon:oli match-up. I don't think he took any games, but it was scarier than it looks on paper.
@Professor_Utonium_
@Professor_Utonium_ Месяц назад
This editing style really stands out, very cool work to watch. Please keep with it!
@smokedem
@smokedem Месяц назад
That scrolling character emblem background is awesome, as is the rest of the editing! Glad to see this channel pop up, hope you keep making these :)
@findingnamesishard
@findingnamesishard Месяц назад
I didn't even notice that you had only 32 subscribers. amazing vid that earned a sub even though i don't watch smash that much
@clairofmemories
@clairofmemories Месяц назад
when I clicked on this video there were less than 200 subs, now there’s almost 700, which is still suprisingly low for a video this well produced, hope you gain more popularity and make more videos, this one was great
@MrOballs
@MrOballs Месяц назад
Now over 1000
@8saiharamasukoi
@8saiharamasukoi Месяц назад
1.57k subs and climbing lets go fellas
@AkashianRecords
@AkashianRecords Месяц назад
@@8saiharamasukoi 2.28K now
@TOFUUU
@TOFUUU Месяц назад
2.44k followers as of 11:17 CST, so subs are still climbing good
@Gnolte
@Gnolte Месяц назад
3.3k
@jvfacundo
@jvfacundo Месяц назад
That first song you used, i was seaching for that for ages, i'm really greatful for fiding it again thanks
@Piggles64099
@Piggles64099 Месяц назад
Wow, great video! Subscribed and I’m hoping to see more content soon!
@SpIattle
@SpIattle Месяц назад
this matchup is brutal and ur editing is good im praying on ur success 🙏🙏
@saphinfection1333
@saphinfection1333 Месяц назад
Having never played brawl competitively, learning anything about it is like glimpsing into some alternate timeline. Fantastic video!
@Timberwolfee
@Timberwolfee Месяц назад
Pretty good video dude! It's cool to see someone making videos about these quirks in brawl.
@supper_e1823
@supper_e1823 Месяц назад
Love the use of “Begin” from Cosmic Psycho as the intro music. :) Great vid.
@Suprapika
@Suprapika Месяц назад
Awesome video, the editing is great. I've always simultaneously wondered how the grab release system worked (like, I remember seeing Sheik's release to up smash on MK), but also never bothered to look it up myself, so this was a good way to learn. When I first learned about it, I remember thinking "does the 'hold up to air escape' thing not exist in Brawl? It's in at least Melee."
@lordlouie3550
@lordlouie3550 Месяц назад
I would take lives to have more in-depth Brawl mechanical analysis like this. Godspeed.
@Brawlternative
@Brawlternative Месяц назад
You can expect more on the way soon :)
@versutus2699
@versutus2699 Месяц назад
Fantastic editing and succinct explanations
@nickdilloway2973
@nickdilloway2973 Месяц назад
looking forward to seeing you're future content, keep it up!
@dragoniota
@dragoniota Месяц назад
love seeing high quality content of the absurdities of competitive brawl! got a lot of love for that game, feels good to see comprehensive breakdowns of the things we abused back then :D
@XanyXatu
@XanyXatu Месяц назад
This is such a high quality video. Criminal you don't have more subs.
@superhappygamer1162
@superhappygamer1162 Месяц назад
To be fair, this is his first video, and it is less than a week old. It shouldn’t be long before he gets more subscribers.
@dubblebrick
@dubblebrick Месяц назад
Yo, nice to see another Smash video essayist popping up this year! I'm working on my first Smash video essay right now and this video just gave me a huge boost in motivation.
@Oretal
@Oretal 18 дней назад
I remember seeing this matchup as a passing remark in an old smash video I watched like a decade ago. It’s wild seeing it get a whole dedicated video about it NOW
@r8gg
@r8gg Месяц назад
1k views 1k likes thats how you know this production value is INSANE
@RailfanJunction
@RailfanJunction Месяц назад
This editing is sooooooo good omg!!! Commenting for the algorithm
@severanceflames2201
@severanceflames2201 Месяц назад
this is awesome man, keep up the content!
@zerick3
@zerick3 Месяц назад
Super interesting content! Hope to see more!
@wailmoregd140
@wailmoregd140 Месяц назад
I’m surprised it wasn’t something to do with Dedede. He’s actually kinda famous for invalidating a lot of lower tier characters because of his character dependant D-Throw infinites
@Brawlternative
@Brawlternative Месяц назад
Super early in this video's production, I planned for Dedede to play a bigger role. Over the course of the research, it seemed like although he crushed most chars in the bottom half of the tier list, none of them were absolute blowouts, mostly 70-30 and 80-20's. Which is still horrific, but not like, the WORST worst. That being said, I feel like some of the absolute worst ones (Dedede v Bowser comes to mind) might actually be in contention for worst matchup in smash, but it was way too obscure to get concrete data on
@pappyqc1981
@pappyqc1981 18 дней назад
I was a Bowser main back in the day, and the matchup was considered to be 100-0, the infinite was just too easy to get on Bowser because of his massive size on top of Dedede's grab range. you also couldn't mash out of an early grab like Ness could since the infinite came from a throw. ​@@Brawlternative
@skirch6094
@skirch6094 Месяц назад
You sure it's not Sheik vs Fox or Sheik vs Ganon, where Sheik's ftilt infinites into a kill confirm?
@Brawlternative
@Brawlternative Месяц назад
Feels like half the characters had some sort of cheese on Fox. I think it only makes him stronger
@honathan2135
@honathan2135 Месяц назад
Nah neutral was pretty much winning for fox, also fox has worse matchups
@rafaelarevalo8047
@rafaelarevalo8047 Месяц назад
this was a fantastic, very well-made video. looking forward to more!
@durpanda123
@durpanda123 Месяц назад
Great video dude, very interesting and well done
@TriforceZard
@TriforceZard Месяц назад
The Marth chain grab is actually one of the first things I think of when it comes to competitive Brawl just because of how silly it is. Good video!
@P1necone623
@P1necone623 Месяц назад
A brawl channel in 2024? Absolutely love it.
@werewolf4925
@werewolf4925 Месяц назад
Just discovered this channel and it's so nice. It's like having a Brawl variant of ASUMsaus, and I love that.
@pulgaresfgc
@pulgaresfgc Месяц назад
Damn this video is great, looking forward to seeing more
@RoyalPear
@RoyalPear Месяц назад
brawl content in 2024?? yes please
@ratiowastaken
@ratiowastaken Месяц назад
ROYAL???
@MinnowTF
@MinnowTF Месяц назад
this makes me want to use code pear in Nintendo eShop
@themaniniboy
@themaniniboy Месяц назад
Love the commentary, kept me engaged the whole way
@spacliche9308
@spacliche9308 Месяц назад
Woah first video? this is an amazing start!
@artminer6
@artminer6 Месяц назад
Deeper dives into brawl would be so cool. As somebody who only knows about from youtube I would love that
@goitwe8564
@goitwe8564 Месяц назад
Wait... This is your first video?! I checked your channel to look for some videos to binge because I was enjoyed this one and didnt find any others. The production quality is amazing! Turning notifications on, cant wait to see future videos!
@flamedelf_real
@flamedelf_real Месяц назад
800th like on accident, meant it to push this channel because of how small it is. keep going, you are REALLY good at this
@movezie
@movezie Месяц назад
truly the best smash channel we need more content
@nikkechu
@nikkechu Месяц назад
This is such a well made video! I had to subscribe cause I cant wait what else you put out!!
@Falcolique
@Falcolique Месяц назад
Jesus christ ! Man I hope your channel grows, it's very promising !
@orlandoment
@orlandoment Месяц назад
Love the video! It's nice knowing people have interest with Brawl still, it's a childhood game I cherish and learning new things about it feels awesome to me
@Professor_Utonium_
@Professor_Utonium_ Месяц назад
It's still my favorite Smash game to this day, and I've played them all since the beginning. Also, great "Who Are You?" profile pic. That was a fun ad campaign for Nintendo.
@PseudoWounds
@PseudoWounds Месяц назад
Great vid, wonderful editing, Brawl was such a weird beast
@gookgus
@gookgus Месяц назад
Cool video, I’ve never seen anyone talk about this before can’t wait for more content
@bigdawud9180
@bigdawud9180 Месяц назад
Banger video this is super underrated, you're gonna make it dude
@kolby125
@kolby125 Месяц назад
babe wake up new smash youtuber with good editing dropped
@emme0731
@emme0731 Месяц назад
A Brawl specific channel? I'm going to love this.
@rubyredyoshi
@rubyredyoshi Месяц назад
lovely video! editing is so clean!
@BrawlCentral
@BrawlCentral Месяц назад
Keep up the good work, we need more videos/channels talking about Brawl more in-depth. Reach out to our community if you ever feel like it.
@KingKalashnikov
@KingKalashnikov Месяц назад
Bumping this comment. Brawl Central is the modern content/community hub of SSBB and they're an absolute joy to work with. A collab would be incredible.
@Brawlternative
@Brawlternative Месяц назад
Will absolutely be hitting you up in the future! Thanks for the kind words :)
@stanleyschicken
@stanleyschicken Месяц назад
this is awesomee!! keep up the brawlposting
@koca6685
@koca6685 Месяц назад
This channel is going to pump out good content I can already tell.
@mrt8bit692
@mrt8bit692 Месяц назад
I watch old brawl sets on my lunch break at my programming job and am so glad I now have this channel!!
@cfino9
@cfino9 Месяц назад
what about new brawl sets? :o
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