The Worst Pedal Platform Guitar Amps? That Pedal Show

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Okay, for everyone I send here from the comments section, this explanation is for you…
Dan and I DID NOT select these amps as ‘the worst pedal platforms’. You did. And here's how that went down…
A few weeks back we were asked a question about ‘bad pedal platform amps.’ We said - as we always do - that there really are no bad ones, it’s more a question of what you want to achieve and whether your amp choice is appropriate for you, or indeed not.
We carried on to say that we thought we could make pretty much any amp sound good with pedals and asked the audience to suggest the worst pedal platform amps, in their opinion.
Among the many, many suggestions the absolute stand-out, clear ‘winner’ was - by a country light year - the Peavey 6505. We were surprised! Somewhere in the far distance was the Roland JC120. However, given that isn’t a real game and we can change the rules however we liked, we chose the JC40 instead. It’s more common, more affordable and I really wanted Dan to hear one.
So, we plug in, try some pedals and hopefully offer some useful suggestions along the way. As we find out… they both cope admirably with pedals!
Also: What’s that new white PRS?
Mick says: The Silver Sky has gone to pastures new and PRS Guitars Europe kindly offered to loan us something else to use on the show. I said what we needed was a relatively simple, mahogany body guitar with humbuckers, as we don’t currently have such a beast. Welcome the S2 Singlecut Standard - link below.”
Please enjoy the episode…
Pedals in this episode…
TheGigRig Three2One
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Sonic Research ST-300 Turbo Tuner Mini
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• Keeley D&M Drive
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• Kingsley Page Tube Boost V2
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• Keeley Filaments High Gain Distortion
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• Boss CE-2w Chorus
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• Catalinbread Belle Epoch Deluxe CB-3
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• Walrus Audio Monument Tremolo
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• Neunaber Immerse Reverb
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TheGigRig G2
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Interesting bits and go-to sections…
- Intro playing: 0:00
- Well, you asked for this: 1:10
- Today’s amps: 2:05
- Alan’s 6505: 2:40
- ASOs? 3:27
- Roland JC40: 4:10
- JC40 settings for today: 4:50
- Oooh, a new dB meter: 5:15
- JC40 bright switch: 5:55
- JC’s chorus sound. Woooo: 6:48
- JC built in overdrive: 7:45
- D&M Drive into JC40: 8:40
- Kingsley Page Tube Boost: 11:20
- …plus D&M Drive: 13:18
- Keeley Filaments into JC40: 15:57
- …and some ambience: 19:15
- Peavey 6505: 23:50
- 6505’s three channels: 24:05
- D&M Drive & 6505: 26:25
- Kingsley Page Tube Boost: 27:10
- Keeley Filaments: 28:28
- Belle Epoch Deluxe: 28:51
- What would Mick do? 30:20
- Gain pedal into a gainy amp: 32:00
- Using the clean channel for solos: 34:20
- Is that a new tuner? 35:45
- 6505 and Dan’s Les Paul: 36:25
- Volume jumps ad dynamics: 39:10
- 6506 Strat, Kingsley Page Boost: 41:10
- Are these ‘bad’ pedal platform amps then? 45:20
Guitars in this episode:
• Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster - Mick’s video at bit.ly/2cQv3yT
• Fender Custom Shop ’63 Telecaster - Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dlZJ6K
• Gibson Custom 1958 Les Paul Standard - watch Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dbwbvS
• PRS S2 Singlecut Standard - www.prsguitars.com/index.php/...
• PRS DGT Model - watch Mick’s video at bit.ly/2d8Xo2I
Amps in this episode
• Roland JC40
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• Peavey 6505 into Marshall 1960AX 4x12 with Celestion G12M Greenback speakers
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@shellbournian 5 лет назад

I've gigged a JC-120 with a distortion pedal out front and my guitar tuned to drop B. If you think the JC-120 can't do something, you aren't trying hard enough.

@soundescapemn 3 года назад

Isn't the JC120 *the* shoegaze amp? which is like *the* effects pedal genre?

@shellbournian 3 года назад

@@soundescapemn Yeah, they take pedals great and are built like tanks. Mine is a '78 that I got at a pawn shop in 2009. I may have cleaned it once? Runs like a top. My tube amps are needy af.

@EpicStuffMan1000 3 года назад

@@shellbournian May I be so rude as to ask how much you got it for?

@shellbournian 3 года назад

@@EpicStuffMan1000 a little over 200 USD. shop thought it was "broken" because the pots were dirty.

@jkf9167 3 года назад

I got used to playing JC-120s when I lived in New York City, and practiced in rehearsal studios. The tube amps in those places tended to get a bit tired, but the JC-120s sounded pristine. I'd just put a tube screamer in front of it and it'd sound great. I just got a JC-40 because I wanted an amp that I could play through headphones and also gig, and I didn't want to go the modeling route. I remember the JC-120s fondly. Also, two of my favorite local rock players back in Portland in the 90s played them, and always sounded great.

@klewis2048 5 лет назад

The happy irony of using a CE-2W in CE-1 mode into a JC-40.

@patrickfitzgerald2861 5 лет назад

Great catch Kevin! I missed this completely, even though I own a JC-40.

@Rustocaps 5 лет назад

I do this at home too

@alexmurphy5289 4 года назад

I do the same thing lol, but admittedly one is dimensional chorus but still both sound very similar

@Ullish1989 5 лет назад

I'm crazy surprised that the JC40/120 is considered a bad pedal platform! Literally everyone I've ever met loves them for this very reason

@olecranonrebellion9976 2 года назад

Thats what I thought.

@kateruckus 2 года назад

Same, I have the JC-40 for gigs with my band and the JC-22 for at home practicing. I bring my pedalboard between the two and I love it. Haven't played a JC-120, but I've been told they are great for recieving pedals.

@priveprive9871 Год назад

Wes Borland, one of the best guitarist use JC120 with A LOT of pedals... I do not believe it is a bad platform... bad information here

@alansong775 Год назад

It’s literally the amp Kevin Shield and Johnny Marr use.

@LeviBulger Год назад

Great for pedals where your base tone is clean. But AWFUL as it gets with basically any gain, especially fuzzes and distortions. While many pros have used the JC120 through the years, almost none of them would have used them for their lead channel or for plugging a dirt pedal into it. They just aren't made for that. But clean tones are phenomenal especially with some chorus and delay. What these guys should have said is that they are bad platforms for dirt, but definitely not all pedals.

@KevPezJALP 3 года назад

JC40s are so under rated. Everyone goes for the 120 if they want a JC, but the 40 is a monster and so much lighter.

@SandalwoodBros 4 месяца назад

And now the JC22 is an even lighter option

@AdamMalster 5 лет назад

I play in a hard rock band. A couple of weeks ago we did an outdoor gig and I went through a Roland JC120. I slammed my modded BD-2 into it with a TS-9 for boost. Cry Baby, Phase 90, with delay and reverb from TC pedals. It sounded sweet. Nothing wrong with those amps.

@brendanroche7281 5 лет назад

Ive been on the verge of buying a jc40 for a long time now and kinda freaked out when they said it was an awful pedal platformer, but then it just immediately sounded good when they started playing it. Thanks guys.

@SvenBroos 5 лет назад

Every time Dan does that thing where he plays a chord while hitting those harmonics a baby blue unicorn is born with red telecasters for wings.

@Zeinzu2 5 лет назад

Sven, simply said, "You aren't wrong"

@mattchutney 5 лет назад

To be honest I"m surprised you got that many words out whilst Dan's balls were pressed up against your uvula. I guess everyone has a talent

@SvenBroos 5 лет назад

mattchutney you mean Dan’s Hot Rod Deluxe?

@tonym7648 5 лет назад

Couldn’t have said it better. These guys are superstars, in personality, in production, and not least of all, in playing.

@darkenergy1963 5 лет назад

do you live in Colorado?

@jafalk1022 5 лет назад

6:14 Dan: "That's a really GREAT sound!" Mick: "Hard to imagine anyone wanting to sound that bright..." Lmfao

@JoshChristiane 3 года назад

It was crazy bright, but for funk music or something really twangy I thought it sounded pretty good actually. Also, some pedals are really naturally dark, I could see it giving a little lift to those.

@jameswilde6713 4 года назад

A year late here, but the irony of having a show titled as such, and then opening with an amp from one of the best lines of amps to run effects through made me laugh my ass off! The Roland JC line is amazing! Us reggae guys have been in love with them since they came out. I mean the amp has an amazing chorus/vibe built in, of course it takes phasers, flangers, delays, trems, etc well too! Great show guys, you proved it’s about how you use the amp and your effects properly. If you can’t get great sounds of a a JC, then you are doing something wrong. Peace!

@koenstrobbe8101 4 месяца назад

Exactly, these guys are talking out of their xxx. They just make video's for the sake of making it and making it sound like their opinion matters, it doesn't. And while they make videos about worst and best, they are just as confused as the average newbie trying stuff out.

@victor2510 5 лет назад

Worst pedal plataform sounds good.... maybe.... the problem is me *starts practicing*

@alanredversangel 5 лет назад

The wife's at the spa, mother in law has the kids, boss has told everyone to go home for the day, but I'm just going to sit here and watch this in peace. Merry f@#$ing Christmas!

@ScottJamesHicks 4 года назад

Blasphemy! (And I share your sentiment.) 🤣🤣🤣🤪

@adam872 5 лет назад

Jazz Chorus as a bad pedal platform? What tha? Near as I can tell that's most of its purpose and everything I've ever heard from those amps is how good they are at it.

@lightaces 5 лет назад

Good enough for Fripp and Belew!

@lunchpin403 5 лет назад

People try and treat it like a tube amp and push the tubes into overdrive etc

@jon.wilson 5 лет назад

Maybe more a case of bad guitarists or bad tones than a bad amp :o

@thomasschweitzer3368 5 лет назад

Totally agree with you !

@samfrancisco6108 5 лет назад

It's the single best amp for delay, reverb and modulation through the effects loop. Yes, it's incredibly clean through the front, but as the boys prove here, with the right dirt pedals dialed in, it can sound however you want. It is by far my favorite amp.

@vincet68 5 лет назад

When it comes to the Jazz Chorus, I think the reputation of “not good for pedals” comes from folk not understanding how much of their drive pedals’ tone is actually the preamp tubes compressing. Haven’t got to the Peavey section yet, but the Jazz sounds great on headphones here.

@riffsnreviews 5 лет назад

This is the new model as well, It was the old 120 that had that reputation, well sounded ok with boss drive pedals, as at that time they designed their pedals around the 120 (also maybe why some of the boss high gain pedals don't sound that great, funky tone stacks on some of them). Don't really know why they keep on calling it a jc120... it's a jc-40, the jc-40 (and all the new line for that matter) was specifically redesigned to be more pedal friendly...

@dannyblau3850 5 лет назад

I would say that is generally the number one offender of most amps being classified as not good for pedals. people not taking the time how to understand the amp or amps in general as well as pedals and pedals in general.

@FossilFishy 5 лет назад

What specifically did they do to make the JC-40 more pedal friendly? Can you point me to something Roland has published about this? "Cause from where I'm sitting, having used a 1980's JC-120 as pedal platform for over a decade, that 40 sounds really familiar. I'm sure if I could A/B it with my amp there's be some subtle differences, but the essential character of its sound is what I hear every time I practice.

@stevendobias2960 5 лет назад

Agreed

@Atttuner 5 лет назад

When you say "how much of their drive pedals’ tone is actually the preamp tubes compressing" do you mean the pedal is pushing the amp's pre-amp tube/s to compress? If so, how much of a drive pedal's gain/breakup is relevant vs the above when running into a high head room amp like a Fender Twin? Also, how can you confidently tell what is pedal vs preamp vs power section vs speaker breakup across all different types of amps. I can tell with my amp because I play and know it so intimately but on other amps I'm not confident..

@dejct 3 года назад

Ive watched this like 4 times, screw it im gonna buy a JC40. Sweet... Got one on order.... I can't believe how good this sounds!

@ptugman 5 лет назад

4 Days ago, with the intention of downsizing my gear, I acquired a JC-40. My heart dropped when I saw the title of this episode because I knew you would be using a JC-40. So with great trepidation, I clicked play. I must say I was greatly relieved when your observations about this amp matched mine. But I was disappointed that you did not investigate the most important feature of this amp, the stereo inputs and how it maps to a wet/dry speaker configuration. I believe that the JC-40's stereo capability could make it the ultimate 'portable/affordable' pedal platform. Perhaps a future stereo pedal platform episode could be in order? Finally can somebody explain to my why a 40 watt/20 watt RMS JC-40 is so F*%#'in LOUD?

@subjectt.change6599 5 месяцев назад

Because the engineers at Roland are brilliant.

@sheppardrj 5 лет назад

I think the Filament through JC40 is probably the best high gain tone that you guys have ever achieved on the show. Massive and articulate.

@calebpaden5856 5 лет назад

I love the dB meter, it gives some really nice context to what I'm hearing

@jjrobiso 5 лет назад

Caleb Paden me too. I almost want to see a frequency spectrum just to visualize it and see the differences. But that’s way too sciency-geeky for these boys I think.

@benbutterworth7584 5 лет назад

Agreed, but it's in a very distracting position.

@TheGoldenTuba 5 лет назад

Haha, well you should have seen the episode where Mick throws it halfway across the room! They have been frustrated with it not being reliable in the past.

@ThatPedalShow 5 лет назад

Where should we put it Ben? Me and Dan and Simon are out of ideas.

@calebpaden5856 5 лет назад

@@ThatPedalShow maybe as a graphic in the top corner of the video if that's feasible

@Fektthis 5 лет назад

The JC-120 has been in production with little change for the last 43 years. It's not exactly a cheap amp and yet it's still on the market and being used by professional musicians to this day. How in the blue blazes can anyone say that it's a bad sounding amp is beyond me. I cannot think of another amp that's had it's longevity. I'm not talking about a brand I'm talking a specific model of amp. Is there even another that comes close? It might not be to personal tastes of some but to try and dismiss it as bad, it's just beyond me.

@ald7248 3 года назад

I don't think people accuse it of being a bad-sounding amp. The on-board distortion - particularly those of the earlier models - just isn't even close to emulating an overdriven tube amp. And it does have the reputation of working well with some types of overdrive pedals but not others.

@chipsterb4946 3 года назад

@@ald7248 I think the key is whether or not the player just wants the sound of the pedal or the sound of the pedal pushing an amp into/further into overdrive. Some pedals are better one or the other.

@haloskater24 2 года назад

Twin Reverb says hello

@Fektthis 2 года назад

@@haloskater24 Yeah. I should have specified what I meant as I thought of the Twin when I said that. I mean one that has not undergone any major changes and is the same amp now as it was when it came out. The 120 hasn't really changed over the years. A new one will sound much like a vintage minus the broken in speakers. A Twin? God those things have changed a lot. Then again, they've been around a good 20 or more years as well though.

@haloskater24 2 года назад

@@Fektthis yea twins been around since 1953

@strtgtr66 5 лет назад

I would really love to see you guys do a shootout between a roland jc-120 and a fender twin.

@ashrafimaduddin8162 5 лет назад

Slowdive uses JC120 with bunch of pedals and it sounds magical.

@javiceres 4 года назад

It’s great for delays, reverbs and the like, but maybe not so for dirt/preamp pedals that try to impart a certain character to make your amp impersonate/sound close to another specific amp or family of amps: tweed, JTM, Vox etc.

@mfam1306 4 года назад

Slowdive used Boss DS-1 into the Jazz Chorus.

@ald7248 3 года назад

@@mfam1306 No. In the 90s Neil Halsted used JC-120s but he ran a ProCo RAT into a Boss OD-2 Turbo. Christian Savill always used Twin Reverbs in the 90s - he never used Solid State at all.

@CMHobbies 3 года назад

@@javiceres Did you watch the video or just see the title and comment? The OD and distortions all sounded great.

@javiceres 3 года назад

@@CMHobbies I’ve both got a Jazz Chorus 22 and listened to the video. That said, I recently discovered that running a preamp directly into the fx Loop Return might do the trick (for impersonating other amps, the voicing style). But you need one that has enough control over the higher frequencies. I don’t think any JC rounds off the harsher spikes of distortion/overdrive devices like a tube amp can (at least some) and of course it doesn’t compress the same way (granted, there’s a big spectrum in the tube ones to begin with).

@kylemcgill1951 5 лет назад

Love when Dan plays high gain stuff, he turns into some kind of riff monster.

@ThatPedalShow 5 лет назад

Grrrrr ;)

@JohnMcKLV 2 года назад

@@ThatPedalShow Lol.

@spacejockey4746 Год назад

He sucks

@seanmarkowitz4216 Год назад

Haha Dan you're one of my fav people, hysterical and humble.

@bobilly 5 лет назад

I'm pretty blown away by the sound of that JC40!

@xander4644 5 лет назад

A band called Turnover uses the JC120 for pretty much their entire guitar sound and its made me fall in love as a mostly high gain guitarist.

@Transtaganu 5 лет назад

Been hating the jazz chorus for the last 25 years and suddenly i find that i love it...always learning. Loved the db meter. Thanks for all the shared experience and knowledge. Keep up the good work.

@belicosebumpkin 5 лет назад

Love my JC-40. Such a versatile amp. It is one of the BEST pedal platforms in my opinion! As an added bonus it has the CE-1 chorus built in! Should be able to pick up a nice cheap used one now this is filed under the "Worst pedal platform amp" section.

@sonofbarnsey Год назад

I've actually just begun renting a JC-40, based on watching this video. And I'm in love with it as a pedal platform. An absolutely top amp, in my opinion. Cheers, guys!

@MythosSoundStudio 5 лет назад

My worlds been rocked - I think that was the first time I've ever seen a non-tube amp rock the D&M World! Some amazing sounds out of that JC40. Nice job breaking the myth gents - the more I see the more I understand there are absolutely NO absolutes in the music world. Appreciate the hard work you all put into this channel and the great information you share. Have a Merry Christmas and I hope you are able to enjoy some downtime with your families.

@zacharthur7499 5 лет назад

Loving the way the new room looks and the dB meter! The brightness of the JC made me think that it would be awesome to you guys challenging yourselves. One guy sets the amp up in a super bright or super muddy (just a horrible EQ setup or a tone of gain) and the other has to try to use pedals to make it a useable tone. It would be a “fun” way to see how to overcome the issues us meer mortals face with our “not so lovely” amps. Thanks for the awesome content guy!

@brianbare2166 5 лет назад

Dan and Nick, the best video thus far! I am very happy of the tones you guys were getting out of the pedals, amps, and guitars. I have learned so much from you guys. I really appreciate what you do. Cheers from North Carolina! Merry Christmas!!

@ludlow555 5 лет назад

I have a friend who was in one of the bigger bands in the 80s Goth scene in Los Angeles who told me that the “sound” of the era was a JC 120 with a DOD 250.

@tomburahz4141 5 лет назад

Thanks for doing this! When I read this vid was coming up and something about the JC-120 being the worst ??, I was just stunned because my JC-40 has been nothing but great. I currently run it in wide stereo from a Styrmon Deco right deck, with the left deck going into my 68 Deluxe Reverb RI. With the deck blend knob on the Deco, it's amazing. The JC chorus sound just works when you can't quite find the right chorus to use. Plus you can take the JC-40 and do a good majority of everything you need, (even the distortion if you do it right) maybe minus delay, it's just a great backup amp to have. If you haven't tried the effects loop in it with stereo ins, that's it's own thing as well. Cheers guys.

@TheGuitar4002 5 лет назад

Been watching for a while now, you guys have helped me get the sounds in my head out of my amps. Yous guys are awesome, thank you for everything you do to help us. Your knowledge and experience are truly valuable to us as the guitar community. Thank you.

@finbaroffensive2272 5 лет назад

Thanks so much for a brilliant year of videos Mick and Dan. Happy Christmas

@sanluidalmolin 5 лет назад

I see a Roland/Boss amps episode happening in the near future. A Jazz Chorus, Roland Cube, Katana and Nextone. Thanks for the wonderful episode. Really opened my eyes to the Jazz Chorus. Also, we need more Belle Epoch Deluxe in the show!

@BernieGuitar 5 лет назад

Amp builders nervously watching...

@tgiencke 5 лет назад

As much as the TPS community needs to know it’s guitar history; thank you for making another “educational” video. Here’s to an even better 2019! I hope Dan contributes with more “sound shaping” episodes (missing his input into TPS). Marry Christmas to you, and all of yours! 👏

@dtop200 5 лет назад

Merry Christmas to all at TPS . Thanks for all your work and fantastic tangents.

@apeekaboo 5 лет назад

I think Johan Segeborn have proved time and again that almost any amp can sound good if you crank it.

@ThatPedalShow 5 лет назад

We like that.

@KristonAbbott 5 лет назад

Lets go

@stubkar 5 лет назад

And by that, you mean any $1600+ guitar through $2500+ amp with top of the line vintage speakers.

@dpb22 5 лет назад

@@stubkar - Not at all. Johan frequently yanks out a Squier tele or strat. His current fav is an Epiphone Flying V Amos sig.

@jakestewartmusic 5 лет назад

@@stubkar Johan uses an expensive Squier and Epiphone in a ton of videos. And he has plenty of videos of inexpensive amps like the Marshall Lead 12, for instance. No matter what amp or guitar he's using, he always seems to get great tones. It proves to me that it has more to do with how you use the equipment and how you play than it does what you're playing (or more specifically, how expensive it is)

@fredpierz7468 5 лет назад

When Dan started playing through the Peavey, I was distracted by the dog and wasn't looking at the screen. When Dan got going full prog rock I thought Rabea Massaad had turned up and was showing you guys how to properly use that amp.

@marco89lcdm 4 года назад

43:35 Mick’s face hitting that bending.. he already new that he was about to add all the fricking gain stages on this planet on the next 30 seconds 😂 love your show guys!!

@marksieber8140 5 лет назад

Thanks for another revelatory episode! Watching your process as you talk through how you get the best out of each amp was very, very helpful. Your advice about leads, done through the clean channel with pedals, and using gain channels for rhythm opens up real possibilities. Mick's clean playing at the end, with the Page, is killer good-and the gainy version was both amusing and showed off blow you can making a style work. Both you guys have stepped up your playing lately, more relaxed, bringing in new phrases and tunes to boot-kudos, and thanks.

@originalsongsbyjonathanlew1512 5 лет назад

I've got a JC 120 and my big muff sounds great through it. And delay pedals sound good to through a jc 120. I put my 100 watt music man amp with the Roland jazz chorus and the sound is huge.

@trordle1436 5 лет назад

Fuzz pedals and Metal Zone sound nice on JC-120s, I haven't found anything else

@phillipasby9202 5 лет назад

One of my favorite players - Tommy Keene (RIP - look him up power pop genius) used a JC120 and a Mesa Dual Rectifier together - sounded spectacular with the immediacy and clarity of the JC with the gain/sag/compression of the Mesa - it was a huge glorious sound! I have been eyeing a JC40 for awhile to use in a similar way with one of my other amps - this might just push me over the edge...

@lincolnosiris3665 5 лет назад

When I saw the JC in context with a video about bad platforms, I thought it is a joke. I own a JC 160 from 1979....you can't get a better platform for pedals, believe me. Plus, if you really wanna know how your gear and you yourself sound, plug straight into a JC. If you put shit in, shit will come out and vice versa.

@bestplans9051 5 лет назад

Try your JC120 with a flanger in Chorus ;)! Ala Billy Duffy.

@originalsongsbyjonathanlew1512 5 лет назад

@@bestplans9051 will do. Cheers

@donaldrowe8460 5 лет назад

JC120 is a really cool pedal amp ! I used them back in the 80's paired with a Boogie, sound of the times LOL I have a buddy who used them extensively doing looping and he loved them !

@fenderjeff 5 лет назад

Excellent episode! Thanks for taking up the challenge - super informative and helpful.

@siryba 5 лет назад

Splendid stuff chaps. Two very characterful amps. I’ve used a JC120 as a touring unit, sometimes in conjunction with another amp and sometimes on it’s own and while the built in distortion has never done anything for me, it’s been a fine pedal platform and an absolute tank on the road, never once breaking down or crapping out. As for the Peavey, you pulled some great sounds out of it as far as I was concerned so I guess it goes to show that sculpting a usable amp is all in the time taken and the willingness to twerk...I mean tweak!

@chiefbucknell 5 лет назад

I got the JC-40 as primarily a synthesizer amp, but I wound up using it much more for guitar - my first “proper” amp after my old Park by Marshall G10 practice amp. I’m glad the experts approve of the JC-40. 🙂

@chiefbucknell 2 года назад

@Pete Testube Default settings are already a good start. It appears that decades ago, Roland encouraged using JC-120 with their synthesizers. The input on JC-40 is -10dB, which seems to accommodate both guitar or keyboard (or other unbalanced mono or stereo inputs) pretty well. Adjusting volume and EQ to taste, on both amp and instrument, can be helpful, naturally. If it’s a bass-heavy input sound, then yeah, I’ll probably dial JC-40’s bass farther down. One last thing: it’s possible to also bypass the preamp section and plug a line level instrument into the mono or stereo JC-40 effects loop return (which does NOT have a volume control, so it’s effectively at a slightly deafening “10”; that’s a real opportunity for using a keyboard’s own volume to avoid blasting one’s ears). Hope some of that ☝️ helps; most of it is probably not news or a surprise to yourself or most other people 😅 🤷‍♂️

@mattd8704 5 лет назад

Seeing the JEM on the rack and instantly liking...

@matthammond3563 5 лет назад

Really disappointed he didn't use it when demoing the channels in the 6505

@jeffhebert9643 5 лет назад

Merry Christmas gentlemen . ..thanks for all you do to provide quality videos throughout the year .

@BJamin4God 5 лет назад

You guys are my favorite show on RU-vid. After every episode all I want to do is pick up my guitar and play. I have a SS Peavey Express 112 that I’ll sometimes run with my tweed Blues Jr. and it sounds HUGE!

@yosephmcjoe9575 5 лет назад

Woah! Is that a JEM I spy?! Completely forgot Dan was a Vai fan, always gives me a bit of a start when I remember that.

@riffmondo9733 3 года назад

Jc 120 is also an awesome pedal platform. With JC’s you get out exactly what you put in. The EQ is very usable. Great series of SS amps.

@onewiththings 5 лет назад

Excellent show! You demonstrated that we can use anything, and that we really need to understand our gear and not just blindly buy something else. Merry Christmas!

@Sunset1997 5 лет назад

Great episode guys and thanks for a great year of shows. I really look forward to your reviews every week; you’re now officially my second favorite weekly show after Survivor :). Merry Christmas! Sincerely, Rob

@865_Audio 5 лет назад

I've been hunting a good deal on a Filaments and any time you guys include a pedal in your vids the used market gets wiped. RATS! ------------ also, Merry Christmas from Tennessee!

@jhneilson 5 лет назад

5:56 Dan sneaking in a little jingle bells! haha

@sevens4483 5 лет назад

Oh Mick..seeing and hearing that DGT again...I love Blue, I love Red; Dan's LP is awesome, your 335 is awesome - and yet there's a sweet richness and sophistication in that DGT that is unforgettable. Keep it out, and keep it in rotation again (please); she's bloody amazing!

@RichardSeal 5 лет назад

I love my D&M drive - the fact that buying that stuff helps this channel is a win for everyone! I do need some more shirts tho! Thanks for some amazing shows this year guys!

@mrpurple33 5 лет назад

6:15 -"Great sound!" - "Hard to imagine how anyone would use a sound like that" - "...yeah".

@SupraphonicsSurfCombo 5 лет назад

I find JC-40 plus Blues Junior sounds GREAT. I have also mixed with AC-15 with success. JC-40 is a great add-on recording amp. Sometimes even the bright switch engaged, tucked low in a mix, can help with definition in an otherwise crunchy part.

@jep3305 5 лет назад

In a way, one could count this among your most instructive vids: Switching the channels on that Peavey and applying your wisdom (that you've shared with us for years now) really drives home the lesson that you've trying to teach us all. Thanks a lot, Gents!

@joegroscup3770 5 лет назад

Absolutely love the show guys, and have learned so much from it over the years. I would love to get your thoughts, or see a show on impedence. and it's affect on amp tone. I recently purchased a Ted Weber Z-Matcher which allows me to use an 8 ohm 12" extension cabinet along with the 8 ohm internal 10" speaker in my 65 Princeton Reissue. In short, it allows the amp to see an 8 ohm total load, but the speakers see 4 ohms. Makes this amp sound much fuller and larger.

@michael-reiss-gitarrist 5 лет назад

In a trio situation I´m usually using the JC40 as my wet amp with the amps built in reverb in combination with my Victory V 40 as my dry Amp - Sounds great!!! So you HAVE TO check out the JC 40´s Reverb :-D Happy Holidays everyone!!

@pabcrane 5 лет назад

Cracking vid. You guys seem genuinely surprised about how good the JC sounds. Dan, did you say previously that you had to use a 120 when playing on a cruise liner? I used a JC77 some years ago which was lovely - I wouldn't have known what to do with the extra 40 odd watts! For VCQ: A suggestion for a guest (if you could wrangle it) would be Kevin Sheilds. He's pretty well known for his effects. I realise that you had a dilettantish go at shoegaze some time ago but it could prove interesting discussing guitary stuff with that sonic maestro. Oh, and Merry Christmas!

@Ebroglio2 4 года назад

They use the best pedal platform there is in a worst pedal platforms video. I don't think Kevin has the time for these troglodytes.

@dan_s_higginson 5 лет назад

Sounded great lads, I’ve never heard anybody say the jazz chorus is a bad pedal platform. And most people I’ve gigged with that use the 5150 boosted pretty hard in to the front, never switching off the lead channel. I have heard complaints about the clean channels of both these amps being too clinical if you’re plugging straight in. But I wouldn’t think many here do that 👍

@AlbusBand 5 лет назад

Mick, You + the Page + the Belle Epoch Deluxe and BLUE are heaven on any amp (specifically referring to your playing just before the soda break commentary). I LOVE you guys and everything about TPS. From one True Tone chasing, tube loving, pedal nerd to another (x 2), Merry Christmas & I wish you both (and your families) nothing but continued health, happiness and success. Your American Pal, Aaron

@zhou_sei 5 лет назад

dunno how it sounds in person, but the distortion from the roland sounds pretty good on my end... .

@LeonTodd 5 лет назад

This video needs more Johnny DeMarco, especially on the JC-40

@petejt 5 лет назад

Haha yes!

@digitald5487 2 года назад

Thank you for making this video. I've watched and enjoyed it several times over the last few years and the viewer commentary has been incredibly educational and entertaining! I'm about to take the plunge on a JC-22 for home rehearsal and will be experimenting with both my analog pedal board and Boss GT-1000 modeler. It'll be interesting to compare the results into the lower wattage, mini JC package. Keep these coming!

@GGRetroRally 5 лет назад

Have a very merry Christmas guys. Thanks for all your hard work and the amazing videos you continue to put out. Have a fantastic new year.

@robosparrow3093 5 лет назад

Loving the decibel meter! are you guys planning another big muff episode? It's been a while since the last one

@irrsinnrainer 5 лет назад

And there are some interesting "new" Muffs on the market right now.

@OrangePony75 3 года назад

9:17 «There is nothing wrong with that, at ALL!». My thoughts exactly as I saw a JC-40 there. Let’s hope the ppl who voted it a «bad» effects platform grow a little bit.

@JohnSmith-ym4sl 5 лет назад

Love this Chanel! I’ve got a jc40 and now after hearing the d&m drive through it I’m sold I’m going to order one this month!!!!

@gyugug 5 лет назад

Hehe - Mick looks amazed at the JC. So glad you’ve seen the light!!! With a decent pedal setup they sound absolutely amazing. I think it’s due to the amps natural headroom + clarity in conjunction with advances in pedal development since the early days of Roland JC’s. Great show again guys many thanks for the continued inspiration and motivation!😁👍

@alecd2562 5 лет назад

That Belle Epoch Deluxe sounded amazing through the Jazz Chorus

@zachrichard7558 5 лет назад

I know this is a pipe dream, but it would be awesome to see some other prog metal guys on the show. Misha Mansoor and Tosin Abasi both are known to use 6505 style amps (among others) with loads of pedals. Plus I'd love for you guys to meet Tosin, I think that would be an awesome show.

@BlackAce900 5 лет назад

Tosin uses a Morgan SW as a pedal platform, which is based off a dumble.

@jonnelson5881 5 лет назад

The Deafheaven guys would be an awesome show! Last time I saw them live they were actually each using a 6534+ which I massively prefer over the 6506.@Gage Olsen

@hacksaw_jeffery6664 5 лет назад

yes more metal content please

@Ottophil 4 года назад

Jon Nelson thats awesome. Its an industry standard. And i love seeing peaveys on stage at any metal show

@christainsoto123 5 лет назад

I’ve been listening to the podcast for a couple shows now, and it’s wonderful for when I can’t sit and watch the show,, thank you.

@justinbouchard 5 лет назад

Great playing, great sounds gents. Did me some internetting and found me a JC-22. 30 watts and no distortion knob. Can't wait :D Tons of love from Canada.

@bicisnobombas 5 лет назад

Here's a serious question: why are most transistor amps' distortion so lackluster when dirt pedals can be so beautiful? Maddening...

@johnwalsh9507 5 лет назад

don't normally comment, but feel the need to JC120 was and still is used by Billy Duffy as a pedal platform. its great

@seanhershey3390 5 лет назад

Along with a Marshall

@johnwalsh9507 5 лет назад

@@seanhershey3390 - depends - started with an ampeg combo; then mixed with a modded marshall and a matchless; recently with a friedman and a vox whatever way, the chorused, flanged, double delayed intro to Sanctuary would not exist without the JC120

@seanhershey3390 5 лет назад

He has his choice now..I saw them during the Love tour..( Oy)..he had the JC & Marshall ..( gifted by Steve Jones).....according to his last rig rundown...a great player& a cool guy.

@johnwalsh9507 5 лет назад

@@seanhershey3390 i think the marshalls Duffy sold to Steve Jones for the Pistols reunion, as the Cult looked done. he then bought them back. he's a top bloke, and a great player. his PG Rig Rundown is worth a watch

@freddieblue6351 2 года назад

This is a great presentation!!! I have the Jazz Chorus 22, because we live in a biscuit tin...lol...it is 30 watts. It does not have the distortion or Vibrato feature, I always use a pedal for distortion anyway...stereo in/out jacks, headphone jack, reverb/chorus footswitch jacks...etc..It loves my Fender American Performer Mustang and it even sounds good with the bright switch plugged in with this guitar. If anyone is looking for a little pedal amp...I highly suggest you try the Jazz Chorus 40 or 22. You can play bass or keyboards through them as well.

@KenjisanHi 5 лет назад

I'm glad that you liked the JC! If you also plug into input 2 it runs in true stereo, if you have time before you have to return it please run your board in stereo through it and give us your thoughts. I love mine, but am interested in how you think it compares to other true stereo setups.

@geofftate6113 5 лет назад

Excuse my tardiness; this is just a comment for last week’s feature, Being a lifelong Jackson Browne fanatic I’ve been lucky enough to see all his fine sidemen live over the years, including David Lindley and the elusive Rick Vito. For the last 3 concerts however, his latest lead player has been Val McCallum and his tone has been simply staggering, produced by what were clearly two old Fender amps. Now, in a new interview, I read yesterday, he reveals that they are a 1959 3x10 Tweed Bandmaster and a 1960’s Deluxe Reverb. The icing being that he had Alexander Dumble modify the Deluxe Reverb. No blimmin’ wonder he sounded good! P.S. A hearty Christmas to y'all.

@StephenKrecklo 5 лет назад

I saw Val play with Lucinda Williams once and it floored me. what a talent!

@geofftate6113 5 лет назад

@@StephenKrecklo Yes indeed!!

@chrismundayguitar 5 лет назад

You definitely stacked the fight in your favour today gents... the Page, D&M Drive, and the rest of the pedals chosen for the episode... what choices! Killer sounds for sure!

@theguitarelectric5218 5 лет назад

Always excluded the JC Series amps when speaking of solid state short comings . They just sound awesome, wish I had my 120 Head back, I do miss it. Never had a problem cutting through the mix,it's a great gigging amp. Thanks for all of your hard work. Merry Christmas!!!!!!

@anthonycutt8854 4 года назад

I've been looking for a video that's basically, 'Here's a Jazz Chorus and now we're going to plumb some pedals into it' and here we are! Nice job.

@fredpierz7468 5 лет назад

I really like the db meter. I've used one for years to determine an amps crankedosity value. Which is the level of sound an amp is producing in dbs divided by the time in millisecond it takes someone to yell "TURN THAT DAMN THING DOWN!!". The best crankedosity level would be of course 0.

@xthexadvantagex 4 года назад

Dan just tunes by ear with a chorus on lol

@Tomsdrawings 5 лет назад

I remember how Dan had an EQ on his board at Guitcon, to be prepared for any amp setup. To face this challenge without even an EQ on the board is brave, and to succeed within two minutes is epic! Thank you all for a wonderful and addictive TPS year of a high quality standard. Looking back, there was a clear increase of content, but it was always inspiring. I wish you guys all the best.

@markinthemix6055 5 лет назад

I loved this show. Lots of great tones from amps that were all used to seeing everywhere and a lot of us playing through. My comment based on honest experience. My struggle has been that I love TUBE amps. My absolute favorite distortion has been to push the amp where I get TUBE distortion from the amp. I have traditionally pushed that with a tube screamer. I know it's not a rocket science setup. It's relatively traditional. I loved Mesa amps back in the day owning a Single Rec, Duel Rec, and I custom order a Tremoverb. The tones were incredible. The sound would change! The distortion tones would change. I'm screaming right now! Does gain, distortion, what have ya, stress an amp to the level that the overdrive / distortion tones change due to humidity, seasonal changes, temperament, STRESS...... whatever? It seems "I guess" that pushing an amp to tube distortion sounds great yes but do I or we should expect changes? When running a amp clean, is this less stressful on an amp? To me I'm gonna comment resounding yes based on band members such as bass players or other predominantly CLEAN tone players that I have played with that have bass tube amps or clean Fenders that have had the same tubes and they declare that the sound is nothing but better than ever over the years. Yes tubes crash but overall it seems that clean based amps tend to not trash tubes as much and yes I understand that its a matter of how the amp is biased. I understand that Morgan amps are biased a bit hot and can wear on tubes more that other amps? This dilemma has drove me to Rocktron preamps and now a Kemper and running through the house for gigs. The sound never changes other than the venue. I will admit that pedals seem to be better than ever for achieving dirt tones through a clean amp. Thanks Bryan Wampler and Dave Friedman. I have been playing a lot lately through a Blues Jr. and a few other Fender combos as a head and playing into Mesa and Marshall speaker cabs 2x12 and 4x12 with a few pedals. thoughts? I loved the speaker cab show as well.

@michaelallen5337 4 года назад

Dan channeling his inner Ola Englund!! 😂

@jakestewartmusic 5 лет назад

Nick Reinhart (of Tera Melos) is someone that you NEED on the show. I'm pretty sure that he's used a Peavey 6505 combo for years, and occasionally a Roland JC-44 and a Supro together. He's truly a unique musician and has the most original and interesting approach with pedals I've ever heard. I've been a fan for about 7 years now and seen them live several times and what Nick does with pedals is something to behold. It's funny to me that the two amps that get brought up as "worst pedal platforms" are used by one of the most innovative pedal users I can think of!

@DJG016 5 лет назад

saw him with Tera Melos a couple weeks ago running the 6505 snd I think another smaller amp that couldve been a JC. His pedals sounded spectacular as always. His playing is always awe-inspiring but I never knew how great/funny his stage presence is. He had the coolest little gimmicks with this rubber toy for the drops in their set it was awesome.

@bryangray4178 5 лет назад

I wish I could like this 1000 times

@thinkthirsty1305 5 лет назад

Heavy Agree with this statement

@jakestewartmusic 5 лет назад

@@amremorse Dan and Mick are a bit more traditional than Nick, but I'd imagine that they could learn something new and interesting from his perspective. I wouldn't call any of Nick's playing on pedal demos horrible - he usually tests out what the pedal is capable of and looks for sounds that the pedal designer might not have even thought to go for. I'd say out of most people demonstrating pedals, he's one of the few that really pushes things to their limits. For that reason and for his creative use of pedals, I feel like he'd be a great guest on TPS to show the more experimental side of what's out there.

@blviking56 5 лет назад

He uses a jcm800 its modded to fit inside a 6505 enclosure

@tskjek08 5 лет назад

This would be a great topic to revisit every once in a while with a different hated (or at least misunderstood) amp. Possible candidate could be : 1) Fender M-80 (2) Marshall Valvestate or MG series (3) Randall RG100SC (4) Peavey Renown or Bandit (5) Anything that says Crate on it. I agree with your premise that if used correctly, almost anything is capable of a few decent sounds.

@victorgreen2758 5 лет назад

My first amp (which I still own 1980) is a JC 120. The chorus on that beast is awesome to this day. That JC40 sounds great. If I remember right the guitarist for Flock of Seagulls played through 2 JC120’s and a Roland Tape delay, not sure which model (think it was a later model) now he had an epic sound. A bit of musician trivia. You two have a great holiday

@irrsinnrainer 5 лет назад

This is basically the dream rig of every Metal guitar guy... Roland JC for cleans, 6505 for drive ;)

@lukepearce1580 5 лет назад

We can reliably use the dB meter, otherwise known as Mick’s face, to know it’s loud in the room. Every time he walked to the amps it visibly spiked.

@bigJohnnybabyboy 5 лет назад

BTW, Merry Christmas, and thank you for all the great videos this year!

@chaseth 5 лет назад

Hooray on that constant DB meter. Great idea. One of the hardest things for me as a guitarist is to know how loud I can get away with. Having an objective way to know what DB level I'm playing at will help me to develop a 'norm'. Thanks guys. Awesome show

@chaseth 5 лет назад

When looking at the other comments complaining how distracting the DB meter is I can only think it's no more distracting then seeing an unplugged space echo and echorec not being played. Makes me hurt.

@DaveLovallo 5 лет назад

I would love to see you all review katana artist vs other like amps. i have one, to be honest, one of the best sounding amp i ever had played thru. Been playing for 30+yrs.

@angeloxboss 5 лет назад

Who said a jazz chorus is bad, all you need is a Jc120 and a delay

@leptyga 5 лет назад

Happy Friday lads! Great show as always! -- OH HEY! Must revisit those lower gain tones Mick was getting out of the Filaments back at Guitcon w/ master Keeley! That was legendary!