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Amateur vs Pro is an often used trick on RU-vid. But should we really be using it?
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00:00 - Am v Pro
00:55 - Confession
01:33 - What is a pro?
03:48 - The problem
04:54 - The solution?
05:35 - My bad photo
06:38 - The Majority vs The Minority
07:31 - The Lesson

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@TheJoshuaPeg 9 месяцев назад

By interacting with this video (giving it a like and leaving any old comment), you're enabling me to make more videos where I struggle to correctly colour-grade action cam footage. Do so at your own risk 🤓.

@Amberlite92 9 месяцев назад

Random comment 😁

@michaelladd3628 9 месяцев назад

I took up photography three years ago at age 70. I was determined to learn how to shoot in manual mode, how to see compositions and thereby see not just the panorama of a scene but "see" the detail as well. Looking past the obvious so to speak. Photographers such as yourself became my instructors through RU-vid. If I had taken up photography at age 62 when I retired, I would probably have taken a serious look at doing it professionally. But Joshua, it has brought me so much joy. Being an amateur is great. Each day lifts me up with new photographic possibilities. My first camera was the 250D as well. The canera I use today is the same 250D. It takes excellent photos as long as you are familiar with its limitations. I shoot mostly landscape, some still-life, but I also shoot wildlife from time to time. I have thought about purchasing a mirrorless camera, such as the R7 which is not too pricey and it has the animal eye detection. I would mainly use it as my wildlife camera and keep my 250D for all other photography. I apologize as I have made this comment way too long. I will be looking forward to your next video. Keep up the good work.

@mhaney1111 5 месяцев назад

Get the R7. It is an amazing camera. My photography has improved greatly since I got mine.

@grahamniven 9 месяцев назад

Spot on. Quite often doing something you love for money sucks the enjoyment right out of it.

@TheJoshuaPeg 9 месяцев назад

Correct 😁

@Twobarpsi 9 месяцев назад

Nothing wrong with being a hobbyist. Getting paid or not, is not important. The enjoyment of creating photographs, is the ultimate reward.

@mikenco 9 месяцев назад

The phrases 'beginner' and 'expert' are probably just as appropriate for this. An extremely artistic person could frame and shoot an amazing photo using the pre-sets on a DSLR. Yet, there are many "all the gear, no idea" photographers who know everything there is technically about their camera and gear, but don't have an artistic bone in their body.

@ClarityOffGrid 9 месяцев назад

You made my day! I didn't know the roots of the word amateur. After 3 years on RU-vid, I recently had to let go of making money and put out the videos I love to make and watch. Even though I have made some money from my craft, the truth is that I can't not film, take photos, and make videos. This is what I LOVE to do. It brings me so much joy being in the mountains, traveling, and sharing my photos and videos with whoever watches them. Thank you for affirming this. I love your videos and your insights. I'll wear the amateur badge with pride!

@stro8202 8 месяцев назад

I think you're absolutely right, as long as you enjoy doing something who cares if you're amateur or professional. My daughter is doing her masters in photo journalism in cardiff University, a love of photography that started when she was a little girl taking photos with a little digital camera. Really enjoyed this video👍

@FreedomUSA357 8 месяцев назад

Wise encouraging words my friend. I’ve always loved taking pics with cheap disposable cameras, then once the phones came out I’m always taking pics. Now that I’m older creeping up on retirement, I decided to buy a camera, so I’m at the beginning stage learning to try and take sharp pics of nature. One day hopefully I’ll be getting good shots like you. Thanks for the videos

@sonjamedic634 4 месяца назад

I enjoy your videos, your photos and your insight very much. Thank you! Keep up the good work!

@NPJensen 9 месяцев назад

Good points. I'm not a professional photographer. In fact, I often use #amateurphotography as one of the hashtags I add to the description of my photos, when I post them online. And, I don't always want my photos the have a perfect, professional look and feel to them. I usually say, that I work to live, and I live for photography. This has been true for a long time, and it still is even though I'm quite proud of my current job, because I get to do my little part to "save the planet" working on projects to replace fossilized fuels at a power plant with green alternatives.

@hilarie4 8 месяцев назад

Love your thoughts and show!!

@boenje 2 месяца назад

Lovely video! Love the message, I agree 100%. Great guy with great content right here

@pauldarville3843 8 месяцев назад

Thanks Joshua, another great honest video, very sincere!!

@carlyrowland1640 2 месяца назад

Its similar to the right and wrong way to hold a camera. Great points and lovely to see. Thanks 😄

@Evan-us7fz 8 месяцев назад

Thank you Joshua, for this, for your previous videos (and great photos) the ones still to come, and above all, your candid honesty. I just love trying to create wonderful images, had just a very few successes, but it's the trying and learning that matters, and what makes photography such a joy.

@stefaneriksson2006 8 месяцев назад

This could be one of the best videos I have ever seen! I'm in a similar mindset, I love being outdoors AND bring the camera there, for the love of the nature and also the love of photography

@TheJoshuaPeg 8 месяцев назад

Thank you so much 🙏🏼

@craigpiferphotography 9 месяцев назад

I think it's really that term "VERSUS" that stands out. It's not a competition, unless you're entering a competition. I've seen photos from amateurs that blow away photos from pros, so those terms have nothing to do with level or quality of work. We need to all be encouraging of each other because, as I've learned through the years, and it doesn't apply just to photography, the beginners can just as easily teach the "old dogs" new tricks as they can learn from the experts. It really is a two way street.

@AlexLGilbert 9 месяцев назад

Nice video, I am curious what conditions you would look for to fix your "bad" photo, especially if you wanted the mist in the picture too as this usually comes with a washed out sky.

@TheJoshuaPeg 9 месяцев назад

Good question! I’ve been wondering that myself. Some moody skies would really complement the Autumn colours I think.

@aussirose 9 месяцев назад

Good on you! I am an amature and proud of it My choice of camera is a crop Canon 80D. It is light weight and has a screen that turns because I am not so nimble any more. It's also a better choice for macro photography which is my favourite genre. I know I take great photos just like you do. It's not all about owning the latest and greatest but all about knowing our gear and utilising it to its fullest extent. Oh and mastering post processing to refine and enhanse the end result. Love your vids asa always, Cheers, Ann. 😃

@josephmansfield2875 9 месяцев назад

I really enjoyed this video great insight from your definition of the word amateur another missing piece filled into the jigsaw of life. Oftentimes the things that we most love to do are the things that we were encouraged and supported to do when we were young. You are really chaĺlenging me to use my 250d more and to enjoy taking bad photographs as well as good ones .To be out there as a landscape photographer at one with nature is food for the soul. Keep up the good work Joshua

@HubertOoru 9 месяцев назад

One of the best videos, and Love to see a Canon 250D photos from you video. Great details and slot learnt from the video. For the most, probably you'd had tried a lower shutter speed (like you did for the river?) , probably you'd capture more of it. Love the video. Keep them coming

@scotland2212 9 месяцев назад

Well done, Joshua so many word you say are so true... just subscribed to your posts sat and watched a number of them today, nice and easy to watch, and you speak to the viewer not the camera...great well done enjoyed them. happy to watch a few more to get some ideas from you. Living in God's own County (Yorkshire) we have lots of what you have over there... Keep em coming

@vaunsphotography6820 8 месяцев назад

Very good points! I consider myself to be an enthusiastic amateur photographer.

@tonyhayes9827 8 месяцев назад

To give the full--time pro, I think we should make the distinction of saying, their due, they do it day after day and it's all they do; if it's their full time job. If practice makes perfect then these people really know their craft. I'm an amateur and my professional job is not photography. So the time I can give photography is necessarily restricted. The photos the pro photographer must take for any given client may lack inspiration (because its the nature of the job sometimes like high school portraits) but they know their gear and they know how to use it. It's the same with any craft. When you first start out you're no good and as time goes by you master it. You said it yourself - your photography is good now because of the years of hard work you put into it. That's what pros necessarily must do. It's not a question of how inspiring their photos may or may not be. For the pro it's a question of knowing how to use their gear under any given circumstance.

@jackyfumoleau6361 9 месяцев назад

You nailed it again Joshua. Great video. Photographers making bad comments about other photographers should think back when they first started. Instead, they should encourage and be supportive. Keep up the good work.

@colinyoung9432 9 месяцев назад

Love the video Joshua, agree with your definition...Well done. Colin Devon...

@luisfigueroa3300 9 месяцев назад

Joshua, I totally agree with you. I for one use photography as a hobby so you can call me an amateur. I don’t sell my pictures but I do share the ones I think are good and that isn’t too many of them. Ha! Ha! I look up to anyone whether amateur or pro that can provide me with information as to how I can improve. Thank you for helping me do that. Keep your videos coming.

@sebastianop.3052 2 месяца назад

Totally agree

@bwashburn8499 9 месяцев назад

Great video again Joshua.I class myself as a full time amateur who enjoys getting out and talking pictures.My problem is when I get home and getting into the editing mode.Has anyone got ideas on how the plan their edits.

@dronepilotcontractors4094 8 месяцев назад

Great video! I dont know if i will ever buy a Full-Frame as i have my Canon 2000D that i will upgrade to a 90D at some point. I am upgrading my lenses to Sigma and i am finding the Art series to be really good! The photographer is the Artist who composes an image not the camera. Unless you are selling huge prints, i dont see the need as i take into account the Crop Factor if needed.

@johndwilliams 9 месяцев назад

I’ve sold prints, I’m a pro! Good video, Joshua. I packed in motorcycling a couple of years ago and it was the same. More you can spend, better you are. Obviously. 🙄 Now I do it for the love of it. Spent lots on cameras and lenses over the years but now I enjoy getting out with my ‘old’ Sony a7rii and a couple of cheap, vintage lenses that cost about £30 for both! And you know what? I think I take better photos than I did with the expensive ones. Still have a few modern lenses but they don’t get as much use these days.

@TheJoshuaPeg 9 месяцев назад

That’s a great attitude John 😁

@tomstirruppp9909 7 месяцев назад

Hi Josh! Loving your videos and I’m thinking of buying the 250D, I have the same Osprey bag as you too and was wondering what the attachment is on your bag strap for the camera? If you could link it me would be much appreciated! Also do you think the 250D would be good for a beginner photographer who enjoys hiking, taking landscape and portraits! Thank you Josh

@nachohernandez9491 7 месяцев назад

I saw your review on the s5 but now is it worth it to get s5ii instead?

@paulcooper9187 9 месяцев назад

Some sound observations there, thank you, and good luck with the rain

@TheJoshuaPeg 9 месяцев назад

Thank you Paul

9 месяцев назад

Very good video, thanks. And I also love been outdoor when raining (with or without camera). Quick feedback: most of your outdoor voice sounds a bit “metallic”. I don’t know how to fix that: I’m a complete “amateur” on that topic ;D

@TheJoshuaPeg 9 месяцев назад

Thanks Gabriel

@brettseaton1125 9 месяцев назад

Well said and a great video and I would say the majority of photos I take aren't good at all but I enjoy the process of taking a photo and getting out and about and every once in while I actually think wow that's a pretty good photo, weather that's by design or just pure luck I don't know lol but I'll take it all the same. It's about the interaction of the world around you then sharing your interpretation of the world with others and getting pleasure from that.

@TheJoshuaPeg 9 месяцев назад

That’s great Brett 😁

@SteveSmith-yc9ss 9 месяцев назад

Really like your videos, no bs just good information and good photos.

@TheJoshuaPeg 9 месяцев назад

Thank you Steve

@paulcomptonpdphotography 9 месяцев назад

well put... can i ask where that woodland is?

@mikebreazeale2563 9 месяцев назад

Pro - Smo, I have been a photographer for most of my life. I've taken images for newspapers and other publications; I had done a lot of weddings and senior photos and model photography. Just about everything and anything really. I have been paid and paid very well at times. I started photography as a hobby because I just loved it and still do. I am not an amateur and don't believe I am a professional either. Most call me a pro but I just love to take photos and if someone wants to pay me then cool...I had a very large studio for years and was staff photographer for several newspapers. IDK...I just love to shoot. Nikon is my brand and I look forward to seeing what is next. Peace

@kyleschoenrock9975 9 месяцев назад

Another great video and I always enjoy your content. When it comes to take photos of water like the ones you took on this video, did you use an ND filter or not? Im pretty new in the world of photography and was just curious.

@TheJoshuaPeg 9 месяцев назад

No ND filter for this one as the ambient light was low enough that I didn’t need one 😁

@kenjonesstudio 8 месяцев назад

Hey Josh, this is something I struggle with myself. I don't consider myself an amateur but I also don't really use the term profesional. The reason I don't is for 2 reasons. 1. I'm still learning and 2. I'm not doin photography full time, I really want too, but I can't seem to be able to make the transition. I love photography but sometimes I wonder if it's worth it...

@Harlequin565 9 месяцев назад

Agree that pro is all about making money. And if you want to keep making money you have to provide a service that sells. If you're very fortunate, what you love and what your clients/algorithms love are the same. Most aren't that lucky, and the ones I know have had their non-paying "pleasure" photography spoiled by the fact that the camera is their day job and the last thing they want to do when having time to themselves. Being a successful pro doesn't imply good photography. It implies good marketing and business sense. In my experience, pro photography is exceedingly mediocre or formulaic. But it sells :)

@tzyy6352 8 месяцев назад

Hi Joshua, been watching your videos for about a year now. I love your videos and it motivates me to do landscape photography. Finally this time, I decided to do landscape photography in Wales. I will be staying at Llanfair Caereinion. Any locations you can recommend within 1-2 hrs travel radius? Thanks

@TheJoshuaPeg 8 месяцев назад

If that’s in Mid Wales, you’re spoilt for choice really! Southern Snowdonia is really close by, and you can’t go wrong there

@nathanvrvrt 9 месяцев назад

true, i'd rather be an amateur than a pro who is just doing it for the money. I mean the money is welcome but the fun of a photo means more than the money. I'm teaching adults how to photograph and i notice that they quickly wanna buy new, more expensive gear for some (stupid) reason and i always tell them that gear doesnt make your photo better or worse. It is you. (Yes gear does matter for a part but if you cant work with the simple gear you will never be able to work with the expensive gear and your photo's will not be what you want). Great video!

@omarlnd 9 месяцев назад

will .. one of the most amazing videos .. a lot of important things has been said in this video .. and a lot of things are important to be heard by photographers ! ,, ,keep on the amazing work

@TheJoshuaPeg 9 месяцев назад

Thank you Omar 🙏🏼

@Toadergelu 5 месяцев назад

I am amator and a beginer in photography,i do this for 2 months and i am very good 😁. I don't have the mony to be a pro but with a canon 700d and a kit lens I do wath I can and I love it.👍

@luis_soares_photography1230 8 месяцев назад

To do what you love and get paid to do it, that´s the ultimate "job". A privilege that is very hard to achieve, sadly. In the meantime, let's continue to enjoy the hobby. "If it makes you happy, it can´t be that bad" (Sheryl Crow) 😉

@billkipper3264 9 месяцев назад

I don't think I would ever want to become a "Pro" photographer in the normal sense of the word. If I had to shoot day in and day out I would eventually become sick of it and quit. I know that has happened with other things I've done. On top of that it would just become a job. Actually, photography for me is secondary to just being outside. I rarely plan a shoot as I find that the vast majority of my best photos happen spontaneously. Finally, winter is coming and, for the most part, I take a break from photography then as I find it to be fairly bleak and monochrome even though I live in the Rocky Mountains of the US. That way I'm fresh and ready to go in the spring.

@stevenharper6888 9 месяцев назад

Another great video! Not sure I would like to be ‘pro’, I wonder if the enjoyment of Photography would wear off eventually . These days I call myself ‘Enthusiast’ . Im not Pro and may a little above beginner ( i hope ). I simply love camera and the process of Photography. Im happy with that 👍

@mikenco 9 месяцев назад

I know a 'pro' photographer in Dover. He Photoshops every picture he shoots with horrible muddy filters. I think he sells a few framed pics, but his pics are pretty basic and horrible.

@reelimageproductions4108 9 месяцев назад

I really enjoy your videos and as a fellow 250D user I say keep up the good work👍👍

@TheJoshuaPeg 9 месяцев назад

Thank you so much 😁

@alexSpunkt. 9 месяцев назад

So true!

@ModernElegancePhoto 3 месяца назад

Now I need a rain only body lol

@JokerPhantomThief 8 месяцев назад

People use amateur and professional as antonyms and I don't think they should. I can sell a photo for $10 to a friend and bam, professional, but as you've said, that doesn't make my photos good. Amateur, in my opinion, is all about skill level. Personally, I have more to learn about photography than I have advice to give, so I am an amateur. Once I learn more, I'll be a mediocre photographer and an advanced photographer, but those words don't describe how much money I have or haven't made off of my photos

@colinbrewer6507 9 месяцев назад

Couldn't agree more great video and yes I have come up against this attitude an just laughed it off

@TheJoshuaPeg 9 месяцев назад

Good to hear Colin 💪🏼

@Raykenn1 9 месяцев назад

Excellent video, thanks for posting 👍.

@TheJoshuaPeg 9 месяцев назад

Thank you 🙏🏼

@andrewhumphrys5548 9 месяцев назад

Thank you Joshua. This is something I have been saying for ages. Many 'Professionals' have made good work using older cameras but just want new kit for that slight addition functionality. Ansel Adams did not have a digital camera though many refer to him as a reference point of good work. In his day it was because that is all they had, not that I am decrying him as an excellent photographer. Would photographers call him an amateur if was just joining the fraternity today?

@TheJoshuaPeg 9 месяцев назад

Very good points Andrew

@christopherbuckle6643 9 месяцев назад

Super video, really enjoyed ❤

@TheJoshuaPeg 9 месяцев назад

Thank you Christopher 🙏🏼

@martincomeaux6949 9 месяцев назад

Professional amateur... I like that. Thank you for walking us through your process.

@TheJoshuaPeg 9 месяцев назад

Thank you Martin

@McGururu 9 месяцев назад

so. true.

@mikebreazeale2563 9 месяцев назад

Great video by the way...didn't know the meaning of an amateur before...cool...I agree with you 100%...a pro amateur....Peace

@williammorrison5739 9 месяцев назад

Top notch again Joshua. I am retired but after watching this video this morning I will not use this term again " just an amiture " , I am an amiture because I love what I do , thanks Joshua have a great week.👍

@TheJoshuaPeg 9 месяцев назад

Thank you William 👍🏼

@kilimeruimages3967 9 месяцев назад

My comment - most amateur photographers are only interested in photography as a hobby, but they can still take brilliant photos, so why call them amateurs ? Most Pro's ( and I am talking youtubers) that I see, have no photography qualifications and are by definition not a person qualified in that profession. They are self called professionals as they have pursued the commercial side of photography - that does not make them better. To me all photographers are the same, we all take photos, what's bad to one person is fantastic to the person who took it !!! Good video and insight, agree with your 'look down their noses. 'comment.