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The Worst Pro Tour Top 8 of All Time 

Hungry On Plane
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You thought Nadu was bad? I have a Pro Tour Top 8 that's at least in contention if not the worst of all time. 2024 Magic has nothing on the 2000s and its less refined rules of the era.
Turns out Pro Tour Rebels was pretty aptly named and Lin-Sivvi is remembered as the terror of Block Constructed for a reason. Turns out that legend design was something that took awhile to get to the same point we have now.
I love the Magic Pro Tour and I've always wanted to make a video like this, if you enjoyed it let me know I'm looking to make more things like this every now and then!
While I'm still very much excited for Bloomburrow spoilers, I hope you don't mind a bit of a detour from our present into Magic's past.
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- This video features the songs 'Title' and 'The Void' from the game 'Orb of Creation', used with permission. Thanks Marple for being awesome.
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@HungryOnPlane
@HungryOnPlane 18 дней назад
Holy smokes, this video did a LOT better than I thought it would esp. since the channel is very much still growing. I'm glad there's an audience for this type of content and I'll certainly be making more in the future (I already have some ideas cooking) but just want to note that as of right now esp for newer subs that it's going to be more the exception than the rule as far as content goes on the channel. That being said the appetite is clearly there so I might have to effort the next one sooner than I thought!
@gogodr
@gogodr 18 дней назад
I can't imagine the amount of research that went into making this video, but the delivery was really on point and really easy to digest. Not only that, great work on the editing giving visual aids and transitions for pretty much every single point.
@SeedSnatcher
@SeedSnatcher 18 дней назад
I'll be honest, I don't really like Commander content. I came in with an open mind after reading your channel description and this was a great video! There's not really a lot of history of competitive Magic stuff out there so I look forward to more.
@Draco9909
@Draco9909 17 дней назад
Here before 1k subs 8D
@violet_broregarde
@violet_broregarde 15 дней назад
cut to the chase faster on your next video please
@joe.5103
@joe.5103 12 дней назад
Big fan of competitive mtg history. Also, I disagree with the comment about cutting to the chase. The video had a good tempo.
@Pachitaro
@Pachitaro 17 дней назад
Me: "This eldrazi are crazy! It's gonna be so hard to play against them!" A fuckin bird: 🗿
@billlong4586
@billlong4586 19 дней назад
They will let Nadu live until summer ends like hogaak probably.
@Krythavar
@Krythavar 19 дней назад
i hope they start restricting cards like they did in timeless. worked really well for the meta
@WitherFang
@WitherFang 19 дней назад
​@@Krythavar They will not, so just abandon that idea.
@NateBullock-ow6on
@NateBullock-ow6on 19 дней назад
​@@Krythavarwhy don't you whine a little bit 😢
@davidbeckbeef
@davidbeckbeef 18 дней назад
About until Bloomburrow drops
@m1xxx3r
@m1xxx3r 17 дней назад
unless they get serious slack they'll wait till next ban period which is at the end of August
@Billchu13
@Billchu13 18 дней назад
I remember convincing my brother that Lin Sivvi could activate her second ability from the yard
@donbionicle
@donbionicle 17 дней назад
You are an evil, evil person. Well done!
@RoseGoldenPetal
@RoseGoldenPetal 19 дней назад
To quickly correct you, it wasn't 20% of Nadu decks at the PT, it was 25% as there was a 4 Color Variant Nadu list there too, Bant Nadu covered 20.2% of the field while the remaining 5.3% of the Nadu decks ran the 4 Color Variant.
@vctrsigma
@vctrsigma 19 дней назад
I saw the same in the list, but he did say "more than 20%" even though he could have just as reasonably said more than 25%
@HungryOnPlane
@HungryOnPlane 18 дней назад
@@vctrsigma I did know the number was higher but wanted to keep the same consistency as the graphic on screen I was referencing. This was actually a very intentional bit of scripting!
@GutsyTen42
@GutsyTen42 18 дней назад
I was listening to this and thinking "Man this sounds like Pastrytime" and then you mentioned your time in league of legends 😂
@Seltaeb_
@Seltaeb_ 19 дней назад
We should just ban all 3 mana spells tbh. That seems to be the throughline.
@NateBullock-ow6on
@NateBullock-ow6on 19 дней назад
Why don't you whine a little bit 😢
@animalchin5082
@animalchin5082 19 дней назад
We've suffered for too long from 3 drops like Teferi or Oko
@Seltaeb_
@Seltaeb_ 19 дней назад
@@animalchin5082 rift bolt has been a manace too long!
@FableErrejeDMR
@FableErrejeDMR 18 дней назад
@@animalchin5082 uro
@Nr4747
@Nr4747 10 дней назад
Nadu ticks literally every single box for a ban-worthy card: Extremely heavily played (x), warps the meta around itself (x), strong combo card (x) - in a resilient shell (x), strong card even without the combo (x), repetitive and/or annoying play pattern (double x), causes tournament issues due to monopolizing too much game clock (x). They will ban this card once the Hasbro suits are sure that all boxes of MM3 have been sold and the impact on the secondary market is considered not too heavy anymore.
@FirstLast-dh8ks
@FirstLast-dh8ks 18 дней назад
I find magic tournaments very hard to watch. they don't show you the decks being played and it seems like they just assume everyone is deep into magic and knows everything.
@TeamGentlementlemen
@TeamGentlementlemen 17 дней назад
I haven't watched a tournament since like 2012, but they used to have really good commentary for the star city games tournaments that would explain every card being played. I wonder if there's anything like that today.
@Josh-bn4ki
@Josh-bn4ki 17 дней назад
Isn't that true of almost every sport though?
@alexpoobum
@alexpoobum 17 дней назад
thats how i feel when i watch flesh and blood now, i want to watch and learn the game but no idea whats happening, dont know the cards etc
@halihalo21
@halihalo21 17 дней назад
@@Josh-bn4ki ? Magic has over 20.000 different cards. How on earth can someone know all off them. Yes on tournaments there are mostly only metadecks but still if you cant read the text on the card you have no idea whats going on. Most sports are easy to understand just by watching it.
@Bsweet117
@Bsweet117 16 дней назад
Maybe dont watch real magic if you're a casual
@BigNonsense
@BigNonsense 19 дней назад
God I adore historical magic content like this. Really appreciate your hard work.
@HungryOnPlane
@HungryOnPlane 19 дней назад
Thanks bud
@ryanquinn1257
@ryanquinn1257 19 дней назад
I feel crazy Stockholm syndrome, but I really feel without Nadu this modern format would be real fun. One Ring is the next boogie man for basically giving a freebie turn and crazy card advantage for all the free spells, but I feel after that storm is easy to hate out, tron can also be hated. I feel after Nadu and One Ring the format could be reallllly fun.
@kaipography
@kaipography 19 дней назад
One Ring is problematic though as no one is sure if/how it can be printed. Price has doubled in a year, and there’s no word from WOTC addressing this. UB could be the reserved list of the 2020s and “Beyond….”
@ryanquinn1257
@ryanquinn1257 19 дней назад
@@kaipography yea. I wish IP wasn’t a problem because I find the card and flavor interesting. I also think it’d be cool to actually get it restricted for such a flavor win, but doubt they’d introduce that Pandora’s box to modern. I agree One Ring should probably go if reprint avenues cannot be figured out though.
@vitaminstorm9429
@vitaminstorm9429 19 дней назад
​@@kaipography its insane that people think you cant reprint the one ring. They can easily make a universes within version. They've done it before, and they'll do it again
@ryanquinn1257
@ryanquinn1257 19 дней назад
@@vitaminstorm9429 it’s a very big, rich IP. It’s one of the hardest IP’s to come back to the table and renegotiate deals with amongst what they have used so far, so yes I do think in this instance it’s not as easy to just “reprint as universes within” copies. They also renegged the promise to do such after the stranger things secret lair / promising universes within versions of them.
@swolegolisopod7340
@swolegolisopod7340 19 дней назад
​@vitaminstorm9429 ye I saw someone mention printing it but swapping in the mirari for universes within flavor and that honestly fits perfectly
@nikolaskohl4269
@nikolaskohl4269 19 дней назад
Really awesome video! I think what makes Nadu feel different is that it's not just wizards making mistakes like they did with Necro or Skullclamp, but it's like they are just throwing out insane cards and letting the community do the playtesting. We've had the incarnations, Ragavan, Thoracle, Jewled Lotus, The One Ring, Oko, and all of these things could have been fixed before they were released, but once they are in packs being sold, and it's much harder to solve problems because players have already built decks and these are the chase cards. It's not Nadu really, it's that there will always be another Nadu in a set or two.
@N4chtigall
@N4chtigall 19 дней назад
By looking at the WotC actions in last months/years I wouldn't be surprised if they did that on purpose just to sell more packs. The amount of crazy strong, obviously problematic cards in recent sets is astounding. Not even mentioning the power creep. And the worst thing is that they aren't going to stop: yesterday the Bloomburrow trailer dropped and guess what? Even more strong, power creep cards that will make other cards completely obsolete due the sheer power.
@fromryuk7785
@fromryuk7785 19 дней назад
​@@N4chtigallhate to say it because I enjoyed 20+ years of 40-60 card format magic but these days the only format I even have decks built for are beginner teaching decks built from left over bulk commons and uncommons that I would teach new players with then donate the deck to them(haven't run into anyone lately but did give a few away like this.) and commander. It's a lot easier to swallow a powerful card effect if it's limited to one. And while you can make a commander deck hyper focus on 1 combo with tutors and everything, it's usually better to build a deck with multiple combos. That allows for a more dynamic game to play out since you may not be winning with the same win con every single time. Unlike 60 card magic where you build the deck around a couple Cards with 3-4 copies of your primary combo cards then engine support cards to protect, speed up the combo, or counter.
@ekteboi4179
@ekteboi4179 18 дней назад
Agreed! Also just looking at the speed with which increasingly obscure sets are coming out, the cash grab element of it is pretty obvious.
@captainbarbossa289
@captainbarbossa289 17 дней назад
It’s a side effect of having absolutely no time to play test anything between sets. Nowadays, there’s a new product coming out every three weeks. There’s no time for r&d to properly playtest everything, and instead having to rush it out the door as quickly as possible. As long as this type of design continues, there will indeed be another Nadu every other set or so.
@nikolaskohl4269
@nikolaskohl4269 16 дней назад
@@N4chtigall Yep, agree 100% It's just that it's such a short sighted way to push sales. The thing is, magic absolutely depends on old cards, nostalgia, and players brewing with their old favorites, because at the end of the day, magic is fundamentally worse at being a card game than most other card games. When they keep printing stupidly power crept newness, and as players keep having the outcome be, it's not as fun to play my old favorites anymore, it kinda ruins the one thing that magic truly has to it's advantage. Just the fact that other games have no land flood/screw and they balance in other ways that don't depend on sheer luck in every single game, that's why magic desperately needs to not disenfranchise current players and to not powercreep out the older cards.
@Uri6060
@Uri6060 18 дней назад
Love the video! Would love to see more bangers like this ❤😊
@Thrillford
@Thrillford 19 дней назад
I saw this video appear in my feed and immediately recognised your voice. Excellent work and amazing production quality!
@ilovestarcraft12345
@ilovestarcraft12345 19 дней назад
Same!
@alphacanios
@alphacanios 17 дней назад
I just found your channel, and that intro really pulled me in, got an instant subscribe as that title screen rolled around. Looking forward to seeing more magic coverage from you!
@user-sp9po5qi9q
@user-sp9po5qi9q 15 дней назад
Love these videos. I've watched the Enter the Battlefield documentary style videos multiple times as well as every Inside the Deck vid about MTG Pro Tour history. This stuff never gets old!
@heddysteve7078
@heddysteve7078 19 дней назад
Subscribed, Awesome video would love to see more these.
@HungryOnPlane
@HungryOnPlane 19 дней назад
Thank you! For right now the channel will still be a mix of the current MTG/Commander content and stuff like this but I do want to do more of these in the future.
@Mightypi
@Mightypi 19 дней назад
Regarding nadu, its transparently far to good. It was carefully made to be this strong, its to push packs
@Snow_Fire_Flame
@Snow_Fire_Flame 18 дней назад
Hanlon's Razor goes here: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
@tylerberg4832
@tylerberg4832 14 дней назад
@@Snow_Fire_Flameya inconceivable they would want to sell packs right ? Yuro oko and nardu were all made to sell packs
@profozpin227
@profozpin227 День назад
​@@tylerberg4832While I would normally agree, Nadu is printed at Rare and not Mythic Rare. Nadu is currently half the price of a pack as a single, and it was a similar price a while ago. If it's meant to sell packs, it's done a pretty horrible job.
@darkjackl999
@darkjackl999 16 дней назад
man when you cut to the LCS footage and i recognized your voice from the intros it threw me for a loop great vid
@rezanajdi6165
@rezanajdi6165 19 дней назад
Great video! If I may offer some feedback.The music was a little loud around 7:15 and it made it hard to hear you. I hope it on sound like a jerk, I’m excited to see more from you in the future.
@HungryOnPlane
@HungryOnPlane 19 дней назад
Oh np! I did a pretty good look at the mix for this video but missed this part for sure. Thanks for the feedback!
@ARTificialDreams
@ARTificialDreams 17 дней назад
Excellent video! Good luck with the channel!
@johnnycaralta
@johnnycaralta 18 дней назад
The one thing WotC hasn't changed is their incompetence when it comes to play testing cards that are blatantly broken.
@Joshuralize
@Joshuralize 18 дней назад
They actually have changed it, because they used to have an entire team devoted to competitive playtesting that no longer exists.
@johnnycaralta
@johnnycaralta 18 дней назад
@@Joshuralize Apparently that team was terrible at their jobs then.
@maximillianhallett3055
@maximillianhallett3055 18 дней назад
@@johnnycaraltaYou ever heard the phrase “don’t throw the baby our with the bath water”? Having a team is better than not having a team.
@johnnycaralta
@johnnycaralta 18 дней назад
@@maximillianhallett3055 I never said it wasn't. I just said they sucked.
@Ninjamanhammer
@Ninjamanhammer 18 дней назад
​@@johnnycaraltaconsidering how bad things are now I think they did a pretty decent job.
@thomasgallegos3845
@thomasgallegos3845 18 дней назад
Im surprised you didn't mention Eldrazi Winter (PT Oath of the Gatewatch). 6 of the top 8 decks were some flavor of Eldrazi, and it was a standard set that sent things into chaos for that modern PT. Also it was a pretty stacked top 8.
@HungryOnPlane
@HungryOnPlane 18 дней назад
I'm guilty of being less familiar with post 2010 PTs esp but excited to learn more about the more recent era. In fact now that you mention it maybe that PT would be a good video idea...
@thomasgallegos3845
@thomasgallegos3845 18 дней назад
@HungryOnPlane it would be a cool comparison video just showcasing another format with a crazy oppressive archetype. If you do a video on it I'll definitely check it out!
@lseths
@lseths 17 дней назад
I am a little surprised the video didn't mention Pro Tour Eldrazi given it getting 6/8. That said, I don't think the Pro Tour itself was that bad (my biggest complaint about it was actually that they banned Splinter Twin shortly before it, which I think was unwarranted and was only done to try to shake things up). Yes, Eldrazi dominated, but Eldrazi was a brand-new deck that was on no one's radar prior to the Pro Tour. A new deck doing so well was a surprise. The format might have been miserable after the Pro Tour (until they banned Eye of Ugin), but in the context of the Pro Tour itself there was some excitement over a new deck no one expected doing so well. And that's why I think Nadu was a lot worse. People knew about Nadu going into the Pro Tour and already didn't particularly like it, and then it dominated and made people dislike it even more.
@carnagejon
@carnagejon 15 дней назад
Eldrazi winter was awfull. No reason not to play the deck. It was everywhere...
@KoolMan685
@KoolMan685 14 дней назад
⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@HungryOnPlane Yeah eldrazi winter was my first thought when i saw the title. I think it’s even better for a video conceptually because the main card that lay dormant, eye of ugin, saw very low level of play before being unleashed, much like Eldrazi flavor wise, after the introduction of eldrazi spells with very low CMC such as thot knot, reality smasher, and endless one (who was just free 2/2’s first turn of the game and still a great top end card). That deck was brutal and hard to watch as the play patterns were rarely interesting but you knew that the deck winning was inevitable, again just like the eldrazi themselves. When BFZ first came out and the deck started popping up i wondered if wizards did it on purpose to just replicate the idea of how unbeatable and unrelenting the eldrazi were haha
@oliverhudgins-di7oi
@oliverhudgins-di7oi 19 дней назад
This is such a good video, I wish you got more views for such a good video
@oliverhudgins-di7oi
@oliverhudgins-di7oi 16 дней назад
Well sometimes wishes do come truw
@Ariamaki
@Ariamaki 17 дней назад
I wonder why they had Nadu's ability cap to triggering twice per-turn Per Creature rather than twice-per-turn period? It'd be a little more awkward to format but WAY more sensible.
@Laguzrick
@Laguzrick 19 дней назад
Great video! I don't watch the pro tour but I heard about the Nadu situation; so seeing a video pop up in my recommendations about a pro tour that's supposedly worse, definitely grabbed my attention and I'm glad I watched it. Keep up the great work, I look forward to more content ~
@jasonsok
@jasonsok 17 дней назад
I really appreciate the effort you put into the video and can tell your passion for the subject. Hope to see more like this
@eavyeavy2864
@eavyeavy2864 15 дней назад
Last
@JalebJay
@JalebJay 19 дней назад
I thought you might have gone for Elves as they had 6/8 in the PT of Berlin. It was a deck that took long turns as Glimpse drew into chains of more elves, and games were decided on if you would accidentally deck out, or just hit your opponent faster than your opponent could set up.
@HungryOnPlane
@HungryOnPlane 18 дней назад
Elves is REALLY interesting 'cause it was omega busted for sure but there's more interesting storylines about that PT I'd like to save for future things. Also any excuse to get the wild late 1990s ESPN coverage in a video LOL. Also I think the appetite for Elves in retrospect is a lot more palatable now whereas Rebels is universally terrible.
@Mira.kel7876
@Mira.kel7876 17 дней назад
Just subscribed hoping for more pro tour history vids ❤
@yasec4731
@yasec4731 19 дней назад
Great video can’t wait to see more!
@dylanfife5444
@dylanfife5444 17 дней назад
I didn’t realize this was pastrytime until you started talking about your league casting career. Good to see more of you!
@wrenn2694
@wrenn2694 18 дней назад
This is fantastic, more discussion about ban, broken cards, top 8’s and competitive magic please!
@Hdtk2024
@Hdtk2024 19 дней назад
Its not a disaster for wotc because it sells packs.
@KK-pm7ud
@KK-pm7ud 19 дней назад
It's a feature. Not a bug.
@XsumerianX
@XsumerianX 18 дней назад
How am I just now hearing bout this channel? Got a new subscriber with this video. ❤
@datmuhq6821
@datmuhq6821 19 дней назад
Randomly finding this video, thinking huh i know that voice and then realising why had me confused. Looking forward to more MTG content from you!
@SadToffee
@SadToffee 16 дней назад
if it's not too disrespectful of your time, I'd love to know how you got in to the professional casting circuit. as someone who has casted a few small events for some games as an amateur I've always looked on at pro casters and thought about being in that position.
@ahegao4915
@ahegao4915 19 дней назад
Just when I had uninstalled League and reinstalled Arena, who should come along but you! Liked, Subbed, and looking forward to more! Keep up the awesome work, Pastry!
@marcelukawski1346
@marcelukawski1346 19 дней назад
Love videos about the history of competitive magic. Keep up the good work!
@RetroPokemonDepot
@RetroPokemonDepot 19 дней назад
Awesome video! I totally forgot about how the Legend Rule affected these mirrors. How dreadful!
@Heavy_Play
@Heavy_Play 18 дней назад
What a great history lesson. Absolutely loved the video style!
@peterschanner
@peterschanner 18 дней назад
I was just about to comment that you sounded exactly like pastrytime. Good caster voice translates well over to good youtube voice, good job!
@draconocor1309
@draconocor1309 17 дней назад
Really great video. Well presented and and edited- I think the music could be a little quieter but other than that this is great.
@thomasohara5926
@thomasohara5926 День назад
You know your format is absolutely fucked when a mono-blue prison deck running Gush and Daze is a scrappy underdog, jesus christ.
@drillmachine7
@drillmachine7 15 дней назад
Nothing will be worst than Atlanta pro tour in 2016 when an Eldrazi block deck dominated Modern format.
@BlazinTre
@BlazinTre 19 дней назад
More pro tour content! I'm new to Magic and stuff like this is FASCINATING!
@canman87
@canman87 17 дней назад
"... THE best pro tour finals match of all time..." *Shows finals from Chicago 1999* My man 🤝 That match is mind-bogglingly good. I also love that line that Randy pops off in the lead-in to game five: "Bryan Davis is trying to become the third consecutive rookie to win Pro Tour Chicago, he's also trying to become the first person ever to win the finals five games to zero." Legendarily savage roasting 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@youngcyanide1046
@youngcyanide1046 19 дней назад
I know it's not the pro tour, but the mythic championship that was 69% Oko has made pretty much any other tour watchable for me. At least almost 3/4 of the matches aren't pretty much mirror matches.
@HungryOnPlane
@HungryOnPlane 18 дней назад
Oh boy Oko honestly deserves his own video. Might be the card that ruined the MOST amount of things.
@youngcyanide1046
@youngcyanide1046 18 дней назад
@@HungryOnPlane Oko, Uro and field of the dead made for a very... ruined first few months of Eldrain
@alexcorbett9414
@alexcorbett9414 12 дней назад
Heard the voice at the start and did a double take; when I heard the LCS shouts I couldn't believe that one of my favorite casters was doing a MTG video! Instant sub, hope you keep doing content like this!
@FoxTashikata
@FoxTashikata 19 дней назад
It’s crazy too because there’s a At Home Nadu deck on arena too thanks to a silly Alchemy card that reduces equipment cost by 1 and automatically gives you equipment.
@SnackCakes
@SnackCakes 19 дней назад
How do you have under 2k subs? Your editing, script, and topic are A tier
@antonioarrendol2655
@antonioarrendol2655 18 дней назад
Bant Nadu would still be as boring if the ild legend rule existed, because it'd still chain into the most boring win turn possible.
@Vijudo
@Vijudo 18 дней назад
Pastrytime talking to me about magic the gathering? This is something I never knew i needed in life and I'm all for it
@kornkobb420
@kornkobb420 17 дней назад
Love the shout out to the GOAT at the end. Very classy! You've got my sub for that!
@LegoLynden
@LegoLynden 17 дней назад
How do you have less than 1k subs?? What a well made video fam. Thanks!!
@HungryOnPlane
@HungryOnPlane 17 дней назад
Road to 1k looking good though 🫡
@shadowofseattle1338
@shadowofseattle1338 10 дней назад
Nothing is worse than Nadu! I cast witness protection on it when my opponent was tapped out with nothing but it, a bristly bill and a llanowar elves on the table... He proceeded to draw 5 lands on my turn, flicker nadu, and proceeded to draw 8 more cards on my turn He literally got 5 fucking lands on my second turn... because for some bullshit reason if you flicker it, it keeps going forever
@damienreave
@damienreave 17 дней назад
Hey Pastrytime, I thought I recognized your voice! Great to see you doing new stuff, loved you as a league commentator and this vid was great too. Are you a fan of Orb of Creation? I immediately recognized the iconic song as one of my favorites from that idler. Not sure if you took it from that or if its just copyright-free music that both you and Orb used.
@damienreave
@damienreave 17 дней назад
Forgot to mention, its the first song used in the vid, if that wasn't clear.
@HungryOnPlane
@HungryOnPlane 17 дней назад
👋 I am a big Orb fan indeed, there's actually two tracks from the game in the video!
@targetplayer
@targetplayer День назад
This was my third PT and first constructed PT. This exemplifies how awful the format was: I ran a black-green deck heavily metagamed against white creatures, including four Massacre main. 2BB, Sorcery, all creatures get -2/-2 until EOT, you can freecast if you have a Swamp + they have a Plains. Game ONE in a day 2 match, I drew an opener of Forest, Rishadan Port, 3 Massacre, 2 other spells. On the play. Unknown opponent, closed decklist, no scouting (at least for or by me). I KEPT. I drew another Port on turn 4. I drew my first Swamp on turn 6. Freecast two Massacres to wipe their board. I won the game. I went on to win the match.
@noesunyoutuber7680
@noesunyoutuber7680 19 дней назад
14:10 - Man, you can see from the footage how exhausted Eskeland was by the end. He doesn't even look that excited to have won the Pro Tour, he's just like "thank Christ, I don't have to play against any more Rebels."
@HungryOnPlane
@HungryOnPlane 19 дней назад
And he only lost to it once at the event LOL
@bigbojangles4585
@bigbojangles4585 19 дней назад
Quiting modern was one of the best decisions of my life.
@Corroderptor
@Corroderptor 17 дней назад
Me too man. It’s actually crazy how most of my interactions outside of work were solely to beat their 400$(minimum) deck and buy-in with mine. The reward is more packs/store credit to continue the cycle and bragging rights to no one who has an actual life.
@bigbojangles4585
@bigbojangles4585 17 дней назад
@@Corroderptor Yeah I mostly draft now at fnm's. I bought into the format because it was supposed to be nonrotating. Boy did I get fooled lol.
@tomasvalerio6043
@tomasvalerio6043 10 дней назад
You should try premodern
@bigbojangles4585
@bigbojangles4585 10 дней назад
@@tomasvalerio6043 I have been enjoying watching Premodern on youtube but haven't really looked into the price of decks and I am not sure where I would even be able to play around me.
@tomasvalerio6043
@tomasvalerio6043 10 дней назад
@@bigbojangles4585 well if you wanna give it a try there’s an online webcam community or the Mtgo community as well! As for the price of the decks, you can get good ones for cheap if you want or of course you can go for the juicy stuff… that’s on you! What I’m trying to say is money is not a problem to enjoy the format and be competitive in it
@ogolthorp
@ogolthorp 19 дней назад
I think also a big reason is that there’s so much redundancy, and a lot of times, disrupting the combo still means you’re behind on cards. Nadu doesn’t require you to go all in like many other combo decks do.
@MusicoftheDamned
@MusicoftheDamned 18 дней назад
There's something hilarious about a Stasis deck being the "good guy" relatively speaking.
@philipmorse-fortier5499
@philipmorse-fortier5499 4 дня назад
When you started showing the old video, I knew it was going to be Lin Sivvi. The legend rule was such a problem.
@HopefulAgnostic
@HopefulAgnostic 18 дней назад
Holy shit its Pastry Time. Wow I had no idea you had a youtube channel and this was just in my recommended.
@forerealz
@forerealz 17 дней назад
I got curoius when you showed the LoL clip in this and did more digging. Pastrytime I adored your Lol casting and am happy to follow you in this endeavor. I played Type 2 back when Rebels were a menace, and it was rough. I do agree that this PT deck archetype was indeed supremely dominate.
@nitiratp
@nitiratp 17 дней назад
I was 16 when I opened a Rishadan Port and remember being disappointed that my rare was a land. And I loved my Rebels deck, I was lucky enough to get a Lin Sivvi too, and was the envy of all my friends ^_^
@PowerfulSkeleton
@PowerfulSkeleton 12 дней назад
Nadu isn't an accident. MH3 is explicitly a pushed product intended to rotate a non-rotating format, as were the first two. These crushingly powerful cards aren't a whoopsie from Wizards, they're why you're buying packs.
@thibaud1330
@thibaud1330 12 дней назад
Bruh who let the intern design a legendary card ?
@ZeHamberglar
@ZeHamberglar 16 дней назад
I would put any caw blade era pro tour up against pro tour rebels, but I'm so happy to have a video about lin sivvi's effect on magic.
@TheSoykeith
@TheSoykeith 12 дней назад
In my opinion, the only thing worse than being broken, is being broken and boring. That is why I don’t like Nadu decks.
@JohnSmith-cw5hs
@JohnSmith-cw5hs 6 дней назад
did not even realize this was Pastrytime when i clicked on the video!
@muchochucho9778
@muchochucho9778 19 дней назад
holy shit the LAST thing I expected after clicking on this video was to hear pastrytime
@ffxivguild-mahiko-san
@ffxivguild-mahiko-san 4 дня назад
I knew I knew that voice - hey pastry.
@warmonksLoL
@warmonksLoL 17 дней назад
love how everyone who is in the league ecosystem that came from mtg are my favorite people in the scene
@dustinseth1
@dustinseth1 18 дней назад
I give plenty of grace for missing cards in such large formats. However, it’s clunky design. Creatures EACH gain the ability, and it triggers twice each turn? That’s such an unnecessary headache. I blame the abomination that is commander.
@JRChiossi
@JRChiossi 19 дней назад
You clearly didn't live through the Tolarian Winter
@admazzola3569
@admazzola3569 12 дней назад
" wowww a nadu + shuko deck. daring arent we ?? "
@jaykorner1391
@jaykorner1391 2 дня назад
I disagree. Nadu was the worst from the simple fact they had 20 years of knowledge before printing that shit card
@sepeterson86
@sepeterson86 13 дней назад
Worst of all time is an exaggeration. Bad is more accurate.
@7upac
@7upac 19 дней назад
Nadu, ring, necro, bye bye
@CenJohan
@CenJohan 17 дней назад
The 1999 pro tour season does contain my favorite final match of Magic. The legendary Brian Davis/Bob Maher match wherein Davis is the only player ever to go 5-0 and lose.
@HungryOnPlane
@HungryOnPlane 16 дней назад
Shh don't leak the future videos!
@lulu1997master
@lulu1997master 18 дней назад
Oh shit, a professional MTG commentator has a YT channel? With news and old school documentaries? Informed and well-edited too!?!? Dang, gotta sub early.
@thevaultwalrus
@thevaultwalrus 7 дней назад
As a Rebels player i think it was at least fun to play and didn’t take 20 minutes to win
@rtvandle
@rtvandle 17 дней назад
As someone who resides in New Zealand, its difficult to find someone who doesnt know a person who has been to antarctica. Currently they have 28 jobs going mostly in contruction and labourers. People go there all the time
@iwanomorgan6557
@iwanomorgan6557 4 дня назад
I'm sorry for being ignorant. So, which format is Nadu more balanced on? Commander or Modern? I feel like the former is alright for the Simic birb
@profozpin227
@profozpin227 День назад
It's more "balanced" in commander for sure, but I will note it's currently extremely popular in competitive commander tournaments. There is still a ton of diversity in commander tournaments though. Despite this I wouldn't be upset at all if they banned it, because oftentimes the combo win is extremely slow to actually play out due to "technically" being non-deterministic. It's certainly not the best card in commander, but it's definitely not particularly fun. Another thing to note, it's almost impossible to build it "casually" which seems to be the primary goal for a lot of commander decks.
@winter945
@winter945 19 дней назад
Heh, it is a small thing but at 8:30 you have the set symbols mixed up, nemesis was the axe and prophecy was the crystal
@HungryOnPlane
@HungryOnPlane 19 дней назад
LOL no one has to know. It's funny because I know for a fact in the edit I swapped them because I thought they were in the wrong order. Should've trusted my instincts...
@evans7665
@evans7665 19 дней назад
its cool how in this one and like take affinity as an example, the winning decks were decks built to beat the clear best deck.
@Drecon84
@Drecon84 17 дней назад
Well, now I want to play Orb of Creation again...
@owenkeith1188
@owenkeith1188 18 дней назад
For me, 2016's Pro Tour Oath of the Gatewatch was the worst. 6 copies of Eldrazi in the top 8 (other 2 were affinity).
@crouchek
@crouchek День назад
Small correction, the 2nd set in masques block (Nemesis) had the Weapon logo, not the Gemstones logo, You got them in the wrong order at 8:30
@user-mh6ut4vl8o
@user-mh6ut4vl8o 18 дней назад
The fact that it doesn’t die to lightning bolt kinda already seemed broken to me tbh
@anarchond
@anarchond 16 дней назад
I dont think Nadu is the problem. Its the free enablers that are the problem in my opinion. Everyone disagrees but Shuko is stupid and should absolutely be banned first, nothing else plays it and they only use the equip effect and nothing else. If Nadu took another turn or two itd be dealable
@inflatablefish921
@inflatablefish921 18 дней назад
the moment you said "another three drop" I knew this was going to be about Lin Sivvi
@DesArthes
@DesArthes 16 дней назад
It's not Lin Sivvi fault 🙂. Problem was bad legendary rule.
@ryanrichard2736
@ryanrichard2736 16 дней назад
Nadu is the crossroads of KCI and Hogaak and the WORST part is WotC DESIGNED it this way
@luistoraya3760
@luistoraya3760 16 дней назад
Yugi players: “first time?”
@tante8074
@tante8074 19 дней назад
I already knew which top 8 you were talking about before watching the video hah
@WorldofSoupS
@WorldofSoupS 19 дней назад
I wonder if the results would be different if there werent so many hate cards for ruby storm clogging up decks and sideboards
@LucianDevine
@LucianDevine 3 дня назад
I think PT Berlin gets a pass, because while there were 6 elf decks in the top 8, they at least had some variance in their win cons and their sideboard tech. There were 4 Predator Dragon variants, 1 Mirror Entity variant, and 1 storm variant if I remember correctly. We also saw a variety of endings to the game. Game 1 was naturally a race, because sideboard tech wasn't in the deck yet, but even some of the game 1's were interesting. One semi-final game 1 ended with a 118/118 Predator Dragon hanging back to block a 116/116 Predator Dragon so that they could deck their opponent. 1 Game had a guy going infinite, only to be hit with a Brain Freeze, which led to a funny moment where they had to try and think of what the storm count was. A couple of games ended with a player building a board and icing their advantage with Ethersworn Canonist. Then you had LSV winning some games on the back of good ol' Thoughtsieze and a couple of attacks. Another thing that I like about PT Berlin was the featured QF match of choice, LSV's storm elves versus the artifact prison deck designed to slow down the elf decks. Kenny Öberg was the initial "hero" of the top 8, as I saw it anyway. His final 6 matches to get to the top 8 were 5 elf decks and a fairy deck. When he lost to LSV though, LSV became the hero, being the only elf deck in the top 4 that didn't use Predator Dragon. He was also faced the most top 8 elimination games of anybody, at that time, to win that tournament, going down 0-2 in the QF and SF before rallying back to win each match 3-2. So 6 elimination games in 2 matches before winning the finals 3-0, PLUS he made the top 8 on tie-breaks, sort of making him the underdog, and who doesn't love an underdog story?
@CarloGoiff666
@CarloGoiff666 15 дней назад
I'm 40 years old. Mercadian masques was my introduction to mtg. There were no spoilers back on those days and black was and still is my favorite color, so when the moment came i chose to build a black mercenary deck over a rebel one. Yeah :/
@tomasvalerio6043
@tomasvalerio6043 10 дней назад
Eldrazi Winter entered the conversation.
@hudsonsin
@hudsonsin 19 дней назад
Glad I clicked on this video, lesson is Wizards will always print more busted cards (or change the rules to fit it) 😂
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