The Worst Service Rifle Upgrade; The M16A2 

The UCP uniform and it's effects on our society

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Imagine a Russian saying something similar, but on Ukraine instead of Iraq.

Based fact

All hail God's Flannel!!

I came here to comment this. He’s like one of the best shooters out of all of them I’ve noticed through a bunch of videos

"MICAH!! YOU RAT!"

I do enjoy in his role as a shooter and a comedian.

Literally the best one out there.

Isn't that the point... Tarantino humor

Absolutely gorgeous.

Such an icon

M16A2s and M4A1s with M203 are legit sex appeal

Every unit I went to, I always got the M203.

add the beaten look of exposed aluminum. MMmmm. Chef's kiss.

Pretty much everything McNab said in his book has been discredited by other SAS guys, including his RSM…vehemently.

I rather carry rifle grenades on my person than that piece of shit on my rifle

For some reason the M203 was more accurate or seemed to be. When the m-4 came out. I hit every target I shot at including 300 meters. Until I ran out bullets with the 3 round option. I did know how I was going to use it on the 2 way range after that. I never shoot for numbers. I shot for practice.

Navy SEAL Chuck Pfarrer wrote about carrying a CAR 15 wiht m203 in Beirut (early 80s) and killing many enemy with it. He used beehive rounds for the 203 that were loaded with flechette darts.

I loved my A2. Plenty of accuracy. As a Marine, we still had M79s in my armory in '97 and still used them. We never could get enough M203s.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YWdD206eSv0.html relevant

dutch?

And your OBVIOUS, testosterone-enfused motto was: "If it bleeds, we can kill it!" *smirk😏

I mean you can still say I deadlifted a truck for a confirmed kill

None of the hostages were rescued they were all executed, Anna was apart of the guerilla rebels not a hostage, it's obvious you weren't the sexual tyrannosaurus that survived the encounter with the yautja hunter

How about a weekly annual long SERE course so we can be peek deadly

…in the mountains

Think most of that stuff is classified (the advanced stuff ofc)

Are u gonna pay?

the vast majority of people who watch GT (including myself) would die if we did a SERE course.

I can see it. How would a Bad Company show handle combat, though?

Damn, we need a Bad Company 3

@@scowler7200 Basically just watch Generation Kill and you have your answer.

man.. bad company show would be crazy. stealing gold in a modern warzone with your buddies who all decide to go with it, could be legit. the guy who mentioned gen kill is right

Still should've gone with the M16A3.

@@paleoph6168 the A3 literally looks like an A2 but fall auto? iirc video games get it wrong when they put A3's in with flat top uppers and railed handguards.

​@@paleoph6168 A3 is just an a2 they slapped a full auto Trigger group into lmao

@@paleoph6168 Bruh

Yes. Major sexy

That brass deflector added a lot of entertainment at the range too. Flinging hot brass down shirt collars and the back of web belts on your neighbor.

So its actually the best upgrade hell yeh

Meanwhile C7

We had a lefty with us. After a qualification shoot on the range he'd have blood running down his right cheek and a lot of little crescent shaped cuts. It depended on the size of the shooter and their head position, but with him the ejected case had flipped 180 degrees when it reached his cheek so the hot open end hit skin first.

Wrong handed.

Not surprising on the A1, in Army basic training at Ft Leonardwood in 2001 I was using an A1 that had been retrofitted to an A2. It was an H&R reciever, which I later found out was manufactured from 68-71. Most of the company had H&R and GM roll marks, with only a few getting Colt rifles. We were all convinced the Colt ones were better, but now I'm pretty sure they were all cobbled together and barely functional.

That's American logistics right there

Soldiers who did those things were lack of disciplines. The US had a conscription military in the Vietnam era. It's not weapon's problem. I wish they kept the A1 profile barrel but using the 1/7 twist rifling. Nevertheless, I've got a Colt A2 HBAR.

Only thing I seent it used on was on cases of C rats, you slip the strap twixt the prongs and sorta roll the rifle lengthwise to break the strap, like opening a spam can. Breaking that band wasn't going to bend the barrel. While I've seen A1s with bent barrels, I never saw one used as a pry bar, they tended to get bent when 200+ pounds of trooper & gear landed on them.

Point and click, be it a camera or a rifle

​@@arghanothername I have never meet a really good news/sports photographer/videographer who could not shoot better than your average person.

I’ve got an old picture of my dad on a training exercise wearing that exact set up. It’s a super cool look.

Agreed.

@@OrtadragoonX LOL Your Dad !!!! I can vividly remember wearing that set up everyday for 8 years...Watch who ya call old LOL !!!

I was USAF Security Police and once they had been issued to me, I preferred both the "Ranger" & tac vests. I was issued my first tac-vest in 1992-93 at RAF Upper Heyford, and never willingly went back to the ALICE harness or magazine pouches. I bought my second tac-vest at Incirlik AB Turkey 1994, and wore that one until I was discharged in 1997.

​@@MichaelSmith-kr9qw As a former USAF Security Policeman, I was issued OG-107s in BMT back in 1987. I didn't get my first set of BDUs until I got to my first duty assignment, Clark AB Phillipines in 1988.

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@@nah6430 We used to pour bottles of Break Free into the receivers to keep them from jamming.

Old rifles and machine guns and especially old magazines jam much more, all things being equal. So everyone thinks the new thing was designed better, even if it is pretty much the same.

@@user-wi3yx3gy2o LOL this was in 1985 at Ft Knox..

Our M-60s loved to jam. Yes I said M60s. And we took care of them better than anyone. There were a few that we would send for replacement or refurbishment that they’d send right back as bad as ever in that regard. The 249s were just as bad 5 years old as these 10-15 year old refurbished M60s, mind you. So I’m not making a general statement about M60s. But that’s my exact point. When the 240Bs came in in the middle of my 8 years in service, it was like somebody invented the medium machine gun. It was like they said we didn’t need to shine out boots anymore. I’m sure the soldiers getting issued the M16A2s for the first time felt the same. I won’t compare that to the introduction of the M60 or the M16. Those were two extremes which each go to show that major designs differences really do matter.

A true icon

That 203 is ribbed for your pleasure, and the commies.

Aesthetic value is absolute peak

Very true. Wish it was on more rifles than just the m16 but that would probably bring down the cool points too.

Thank you sir for your service! ♥🙂

I was in the 101st as well and this was my exact same rifle with the 203. I honestly didn't want any other rifle at the time. Most other units in the 101st had m4's. Brings back memories

101st Abn? Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. 2-Bn/327th Infantry Regiment. Alpha Company mortar Platoon. 1979 to 1981.

@Whomagoose I got a t-shirt and a coffee cup haha. 326 engineer bt 2001-2005

Thank you for your service! i can feel this nostalgia too

Lee Harvey Oswald would agree

My grandpa left his M16 for the Koreas to fight over.

Thank you for your service!

20" barrel

Nobody asked bro ❤ from Cleveland

​@@misterbaker9728 I did

@@tinybatmanname9476only from the prone and you don’t notice much after awhile.

So you like him acting like an ass-clown?

They are the Top Gear of the gun world.

I think adjustable sights with a bullet tip was a bad idea. On one hand it sounds cool but its kinda a wolf in sheeps clothing because if you pop out the trench and all your bullets are in your magazine its pretty hard to adjust your sights. I think having no intermediate barrier to adjustment also has its adva tages and disadgantages. Someone else could adjust them. People do funny things fidgeting without noticing esspeically if youre mega stressed in a war. Or you hand it to someone who hasnt handled guns and theyre jjst lesrning and you want them to twist things and click the switches etc. You could mayne bump your own sight adjustment without noticing. The problem with not having fast adjustment is your enemy does and if they can quick adjust theyre on target on you while youre figeting with a bullet trying to adjust your windage. On the flip side if your sights are only adjustable with a bullet tip then you cam hamd the gun empty to someone thats never held one and they can do anything to it except throw your sights out of wack. I like.the idea i just dont think i like the execution. I think about maybe a pushbutton release like the mag release which frees the sight adjustment but then i also think about those videos where people are shooting at a bad guy in a war or conflicts etc and their fingers get shot off. You could tournequet up and keep going for a while but its foing to be harder to do combination lever depressing and sight adjusting. If half your finfers get blown off ans you need to correct for 400m windage and elivation with a numb arm and you have to get a bullet putnof a magazine and play games while the bullets are still flying by its not going to be fun man. Ill really be wishin I had quick adjust with no bullets required or buttons to press.

Routinely outshoots Mike, and guests 😅

Way better than a LOT of Marines I served with for sure.

they tried to nerf him with the vest but he still clapped cheeks

Because of his doofus character I sometimes forget how good Charlie is. He consistently outclasses them both

Im super impressed

when actually admin has 1/6th of GT's subs

​@@maelseveri1006 that's the joke. 😢

I was thinking the same thing .. garand will see a huge jump in viewers!

@@maelseveri1006 I bet you drink Bud Light

@@maelseveri1006 Dont sweat it, you'll catch the next joke. Head high

How many rag heads did you dye red?

Qualified with the A1 on Parris Island in 1985. Got the A2 on Okinawa and loved that weapon. Especially the rear sight. Went from sharpshooter to expert.

What's yalls opinions on the A4? Anything you'd improve if you could?

Damn no way what’s your gamertag

@@spiired6469 Mine? It's not. It's got Boeing in the name...lol

Improvise, adapt, overcome.

@@thesmartestmanintheworld2653 Yeah their trajectories are shockingly easy to predict even without leaf sights. So we figured them out quick.

The ol pretend it's a tater gun tactic?

Meanwhile our M320 grenade launchers come with a laser rangefinder and make it stupid simple to aim it. And we’re field artillery

@@Cadian045 Well this was 14 years ago so that was probably a factor.

As a zoomer, I was desert digi and M16A4s

Thank you sir for your service.

I used this gun back in 2007-8, in Call of Duty. In my experience it’s okay

Will a dummy-thick Ukrainian Jewess suffice?

My man fell for the old Jewish e girl psyop. RIP

@@johndoe8559 Hey, it's his dick.

It's on a patch you can buy

Bcm. I have it!

Better dead than Red.

Looking at the world right now the most of them are in the US

i had a t-shirt that said that in 1985

As I recall from his interview, the Army board was filled with combat vets from Europe/Pacific who said "nervous fingers like pushing buttons and twisting nobs."

​@@Thrainite ye so fuck with the safety a bunch, not your sights lol. Some would argue the forward assist is a similar feature 😂

Mika is on point with his shots this one…

Adjustable flip sights are the best, most adjustable sights are uncomfortable and unreliable in my opinion

A lot of psychological lessons were learned during WWII. One most notably that an ordinary person really does not want to shoot to kill another person, even if they are "the enemy". Since the late 1940s, the US Army then went on a 40 year campaign to train soldiers to shoot to kill without thinking about it at all. I didn't join the military until the early 2000s, but I meet the occasional person from the 1970s and 1980s military and they definitely are from a different era. That's pretty much what I spent my weekends researching on weekends while at university. Reading about lessons learned during WWII, psychological warfare and its use throughout history. That last one is pretty bad if you look into what the Romans encountered during their conquests, it makes modern psyops seem like pussy play. Cold War doctrine and of course modern use of nuclear weapons. Be lucky that you didn't have to grow up during the Cold War. It was pretty shitty.

May i ask why ?

@@tearex8688lose zero

​@@tearex8688 Because the Drill Instructor will PT you until you die.

@@tearex8688 The carry handle is a trap. But in seriousness, you carrying your rifle by the carry handle is you carrying a stick that you can't even fight with. You have to move it, change your hands, then bring it to a fighting position before you are anything other than a target.

@@ekscalybur So why was it even designed that way???

Junk weapon.

@@charleswest6372 You probably think ARs are an objectively bad platform.

That woodland camo stance is impeccable. M85 is true drip.

Seriously. That guy slays.

Interesting fact- there's actually no definitive proof that he has ever existed.

Well that kind of happens when you train everyday with experts. XD

​@@impracticaltactics how so?

He's almost as good as you now, right?

And……

@@youwebz and what

The first Black ops has a full auto with scope and nade launcher m16 in the first mission.

​@@idontwanttoputmyname403 that's the M16A1

All call of duties with an M16 have a 3 round burst in the multiplayer but in the campaign it's full auto with one exception that being call of duty black ops 2 I think don't quote me

Honestly I think that's the only mission where you can equip the M16, the rest of the rifles were M4s. The M16 in multiplayer however was burst only and busted.

​@@RosaRodriguez-nc1ku In campaign the M16 was full auto. In zombies it was burst only unless you pack a punched it.

This. The videos are absolutely amazing honestly. The actual content and the videography are unmatched.

I really need to get one of these things huh

Micah basically won all the challenges this time. He's a super sweat.

Always stayed in the arms room. Was able to hit a doorknob a ~250 pretty consistently with just the leaf sight.

Make ordinance great again

Had the same MOS in the Army. Called 11C mortars. Mostly worked on the M-30, 107mm mortar. Called the four-deuce, heavy mortar. I don't know if the Marines used that heavy mortar. The four-deuce is from the inch measurement of the bore being 4.2".

@@whomagoose6897 When I served in the 80’s, Weapons Company had 81mm. mortars and Rifle Company’s had a Weapons Platoon (that I served in) that deployed the 60mm.

Thank you sir for your service. :)

The vest should have been issued with an extender for the web belt (to fit over the vest).

@@18S_TD Lmaoo.

Bet it makes a comfy pillow too...

Arnies m16 wasn't an a2

@@nigeldean3726 True, but damn they look similar, did not expect that out of a 'My little Armalite'

@@grimreminder5038 yeah it's not something anyone would really notice unless they looked for it or was a complete nitpicker, I've been watching that movie religiously since my dad showed me it when I was like 8 and I didn't notice until I watched something on the guns used when I was like 20 lol

@@nigeldean3726 You're not kidding, even the search engine was a bit mixed up when I browsed for the exact model used, M16/AR-15/SP1, bless Predator Hunting Grounds' heart by going with the M16 as well

@@grimreminder5038 yeah I've never played HG but they clearly love the franchise, they've made that game pretty cool

but OD is so aesthetic...

Well with any camo it depends on your environment. That said, acu was probably the stupidest move by the army and there's a lot to choose from. Im personally fond of multicam since it's what I wore and oddly enough it blends in really well where I live too.

"The M16A2 was what i had, when i wasn't carrying an M9 Berreta behind a desk" reminded me of the "i own a musket for home defense..."

@@sussyman9034 why he's just talking about the rifle he used when he served, and is talking about how he wasn't always out on the field with a rifle.

M9 sucks too.

I agree about the hand guards. The triangle one laid flatter in the support hand. I'll also add that the 3round burst feature was totally unnecessary.

@@johnrolston4986 I vaguely remember that. 2/1 transitioned from the A1 to the A2 in 1985.

We didn't mind the new handguard shape, it was the least concern. We loved the heavier barrel and that the A2 actually felt like a WEAPON, not a toy. Plus, you could plink all the day long and hit 500. So damn easy with that rifle. USMC; 81-87.

JD, USMC 81 - 87 also.

The triangle shape was definitely more ergo. I think they switched to the circular a2 style for ease of production.

I cannot stand the admin guy. I love me some Garand thumb but cannot watch the masked moron. Just too much cringe for me.

I liked it more with just talking

I always skipped the action, gimme the nerdy stuff

Personally I enjoy both styles

Ahhh, a fellow Novalogic game enjoyer 👏🏼👏🏼

SAMEEE

Yep.

Bu-du-boom! Bu-du-boom! Bu-du-boom! The sound of the burst fire m16 in that game is ingrained in my memories.

"We've got explosions!"

I mean the burst mode was meant to be a downgrade. The amount of ammo wasted in Vietnam was astonishing, and 20 round magazines didn't seem to prevent spray and prey, so the 3 round burst was to limit cowboys dumping 30 round every time a leaf moves.

​@@Sun-Tzu- still, better training may have been a better solution than cucking the M16

Old-school Soldier 😮. Many thanks to ya, sir.

@@Sun-Tzu- no the problem was the 3 round burst itself was several parts and more stuff to screw up. Not to mention you'd pull the hammer on a 3 round burst and get only one round. Real soldiers fire on semi regardless. Only Air Force clowns would use full auto.

@@xraystudios3693 Training's expensive, and often impossible when you're using conscripts.

A3 is just a A4 with full auto iirc

​@@lil__boi3027 It's an A2 or an A4 with full auto, technically. The flat top is not relevant to the designation.

A1 is just the A3 with a slanted or 20rd mag(can’t remember), and with a leather hand guard, and no forward assist

A3 is just an A2 w/ A1 FCG

@@skepticalbadger Most likely the flat top/removable carrying handle isn’t relevant for the designation. But sometimes it is considered that the A3 has a removable carrying handle.

If you don’t want an M4, I’ll take it off your hands. Lol

Yeah that Mozambique drill was so clean from his first one.

@@DaHkIpEnCaNaDiAn So much better. It's cool to see someone go from average/new to rather excellent over several months.

Yeah, it's crazy how much Micah's shooting has improved. He's turning into a monster!

I believe that is what the people of the internet call "LARPing"

​@@killdizzle papa thumb had a job at the air force so more like uniform out of work

i too trained with the A2 in Parris Island in 94. Like you, I was no shooter, I had no experience with any firearms and also scored high expert, 241 out of 250 with 3 saved rounds that i didn't get to fire and get added to the score due to the guys in the pits being slow on my target. Even dropped the spotter from my target at 500 yds with one of those rounds. My word as a Marine, Devil Dog. Windage, elevation, breath control, center the arc on target and fire at the bottom of the arc makes 500 with the A2 a breeze. The smell of freshly fired gunpowder at 0430 was a beautiful thing, lol.

I went through Parris Island in '87, and we also had the A2 - of course by then, they were well-used, LOL. It was a very accurate rifle once you got your dope set right. I wasn't a "shooter" and I even scored low/mid-expert out of Recruit Training (~225?) and every other time except one - when I finally found out I needed glasses, LOL.....

@@Ezees23 Luckily, somehow, I scored expert every time, low/mid more often than high expert, it came down to time of year(winter/summer=less glare from sun/more glare from sun). Though I will add that when I got to fleet, they changed the scoring system, then I always scored 41 or higher. My MOS didn't rate qualification with a sidearm as a standard but I did always want to give it a try even though I would have never been issued one.

I went in 09, we were issued some of them A2s I bet, with the original iron sights. The black on some were faded to a purple color , or down to the bare metal. I think they moved to the A4s some few years after.