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The WORST Signature Pokémon Move of Each Type 

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Most Pokémon's signature moves are great, or at least useful. But there's a handful of signature moves you would never see used. We look at these in this video going over the worst one of EACH TYPE.
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0:00 Intro
0:50 Normal
2:56 Ghost
3:49 Grass
4:33 Water
6:32 Fire
7:29 Bug
9:24 Ground
10:09 Rock
11:17 Poison
12:42 Psychic
13:58 Fighting
15:14 Flying
16:35 Ice
18:14 Dark
19:45 Fairy
20:41 Steel
21:31 Electric
22:52 Dragon

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@SeaOfPixels
@SeaOfPixels 2 месяца назад
Ice Burn should fire in one turn under harsh sunlight, and Freeze Shock should fire in one turn under electric terrain.
@Maaarrrrk
@Maaarrrrk 2 месяца назад
Or how about Freeze shock should fire in Snow
@jpraise6771
@jpraise6771 2 месяца назад
Brothers...the glories of this world is great, but do not forget the eternal, everlasting glory of kingdom of the righteous king, Yahweh. Righteous God, in your grace, may these lost children return to you. Amin!!
@lookatmyzombies9377
@lookatmyzombies9377 2 месяца назад
Lol I used a fused Kyurem for the first time the other day and was surprised to see Freeze Shock was a 2 turn move considering the base damage
@respectblindfolds7411
@respectblindfolds7411 2 месяца назад
One idea that you could also do is have the freezing air from their charge turn empart some defensive bonus. You can do a lot with it, though the evil answer is to automatically freeze anybody that makes contact on that turn.
@strangevol5264
@strangevol5264 2 месяца назад
@@jpraise6771dummy you misspelled “amen” you’re going down
@Borgdrohne13
@Borgdrohne13 2 месяца назад
Technically the worst fairy type signature move is Light of Ruin, because nobody can use it.
@olafmikoaj3121
@olafmikoaj3121 2 месяца назад
Dude Topsy-Turvy on bulky Malamar is so fun to punish sweepers. Like it turns them from dangerous threats to little pupies that can't git you much.
@astoron8398
@astoron8398 2 месяца назад
mfw gen 7 marshadow tries stealing all my superpower buffs just to get hard punished
@SaffronSeal
@SaffronSeal Месяц назад
​@@astoron8398 Fr! I remember that lol
@paevepailbrack6899
@paevepailbrack6899 2 месяца назад
love the footage of kinesis missing and then immediately hitting a focus blast. So funny and must have taken a bit to record
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 2 месяца назад
Might have taken 12 tries
@Missiletainn
@Missiletainn 2 месяца назад
"It's pretty much Just Kecleons Color change ability." ... No? Conversion 2 changes you randomly to a type which resists the last move which hit you. Color Change changes you to the type of the last move which hit you. They are EXTREMELY different.
@CobaltPerseverance154
@CobaltPerseverance154 2 месяца назад
They have the same use. (For the most part) make you resistant to the last move used against you, even if it really doesn't work sometimes.
@BHox01
@BHox01 2 месяца назад
​@@CobaltPerseverance154 only like half the types resist themselves though? And god forbid you get hit by a ghost or dragon move...
@CobaltPerseverance154
@CobaltPerseverance154 2 месяца назад
@@BHox01 I know, that's why I said that it really doesn't work that well. Plus, you can't get hit by a ghost type move turn 1 with Kecleon due to the base normal type it has. But after you can.
@av2279
@av2279 2 месяца назад
@@CobaltPerseverance154 For the most part? Only 9/18 types resist themselves. That's half, not "most."
@CobaltPerseverance154
@CobaltPerseverance154 2 месяца назад
@@av2279 Not for the functionality. For the use. The way they function is pretty different, but gave similar purpose.
@quaintdacraftyyt7038
@quaintdacraftyyt7038 2 месяца назад
I'll have to say as sad as it is, Zoroark's Night Daze/Bitter Malice is kinda pointless to have on them as it goes against their whole gimmick of disguising as other pokemon. The moment you reveal it, you may as well have had the illusion break.
@Cupcakele
@Cupcakele 2 месяца назад
It would be really cool if there was a way that those moves could also be disguised if Zoroark was under illusion. It would be so hard to implement but it would be way cooler
@greatmind179
@greatmind179 2 месяца назад
I kinda wish Zoroark gets a hidden ability that makes it better or better signature moves that work with illusion.
@av2279
@av2279 2 месяца назад
What if they did double damage if the illusion hasn't been broken, and then broke the illusion?
@dc_dachi
@dc_dachi 2 месяца назад
⁠@@CupcakeleI’m not sure how this would work logistically. If Zoroark used Bitter Malice and it disguised itself as an Ice Beam that OHKO’d a Flutter Main for super effective damage, the jig would be up. You’d know immediately that your opponent has a Zoroark out.
@hotdog4121
@hotdog4121 2 месяца назад
@@dc_dachi Well Night Daze and Bitter Malice could just be disquised as Dark Pulse and Shadow Ball respectively.
@kylekonopka8292
@kylekonopka8292 2 месяца назад
Roar of Time actually has a use in Pokémon go. It makes any timed item you use last longer
@turtlenator6249
@turtlenator6249 2 месяца назад
It think the ONLY reason Shelter is what it is in SV is because you can only get Acid Armor while it’s still Sligoo. But in that case, just allow Goodra to remember Acid Armor…
@Skullhawk13
@Skullhawk13 2 месяца назад
They reverted recalling prior evo moves? Wow
@turtlenator6249
@turtlenator6249 2 месяца назад
@@Skullhawk13 Think it’s more of that if you got Goodra in PLA, it can’t relearn Acid Armor. Still dumb though.
@maxspecs
@maxspecs 2 месяца назад
Isn’t Shelter +3 defense tho?
@oodogla
@oodogla 2 месяца назад
​@@maxspecsno
@rjd-kh8et
@rjd-kh8et 12 дней назад
Shelter should raise Defense and Evasion by one stage each to match its effect in Legends: Arceus. Regardless of what Smogon thinks of evasion, it's better than being a clone of Acid Armor and Iron Defense with less PP.
@Arthion
@Arthion 2 месяца назад
Shell Trap is slightly odd, whilst it has -3 priority on paper, it actually fires immediately after the opponent if the enemy makes contact with Turtonator, which can actually potentially allow it to even act earlier than it would with its regular speed. For example, if the enemy used Extreme Speed on Turtonator, then Shell Trap would essentially become a priority move. That said if it could be triggered by any offensive move it could be really nasty, alternatively if Shell Trap reduced damage taken it could also be more useful.
@lipika2841
@lipika2841 2 месяца назад
Imagine Turtonator paired up with Drought Ninetales in doubles. & Ninetales used Quick Attack on it to immediately activate its Shell Trap, but unfortunately the move only works if the enemy attacked the user, not the ally.
@zoroearc2582
@zoroearc2582 2 месяца назад
I would halve the power, but have it hit all opponents in double battles, be triggered by any damaging move and deal double damage if the triggering move made contact
@Arthion
@Arthion 2 месяца назад
@@zoroearc2582 It already hits both opponents in doubles
@zoroearc2582
@zoroearc2582 2 месяца назад
@@Arthion didn't know that, thanks
@Arthion
@Arthion 2 месяца назад
@@zoroearc2582 Biggest problem really is a) getting the trap to trigger and b) needing Turtonator to survive the hit, since if it get 1-shot it doesn't really matter if they trap triggered or not.
@vbarreiro
@vbarreiro 2 месяца назад
Shelter was incredible in PLA. It boosted defense and obscured you, which is to say, rose evasion, so it was actually really really good and carried me on my Giratina encounter (which is arguably the hardest fight in series history)
@lookatmyzombies9377
@lookatmyzombies9377 2 месяца назад
I was playing a rom hack the other day and they made a final boss trainer have a lvl 105 legendary. It was a good surprise but reminded me of PLA because it's one of the few instances in pokémon where the trainers break the rules
@edmg7
@edmg7 2 месяца назад
Was it really that difficult?
@wumpoooo
@wumpoooo 2 месяца назад
Well it was an 8v6, and the speed system meant that you would get hit at least once by every single pokemon, including beefed up giratinas. It was only hard so long stayed at equal level, you could easily overlevel and take him on without too much struggle, and the free mythical were nice
@edmg7
@edmg7 2 месяца назад
@@wumpoooo I can only speak for myself, but both times I played PLA I wasn’t overleveled and I beat Volo and Giratina without much difficulty. Edit: no legendary or mythical Pokémon on my team either
@howdyimflowey4341
@howdyimflowey4341 2 месяца назад
​@@edmg7Same, don't really know why people consider it that difficult
@matigamer329
@matigamer329 2 месяца назад
Fun fact about Chatter: before gen 6 it didn't have a 100% confusion. Instead in gens 4 and 5 you could customize its sound and increase its confusion rate depending on how loud it was. The thing was that a lot of people used Chatter to say really messed up things like the n-word. So it was banned from competitive.
@levistokes3960
@levistokes3960 2 месяца назад
I used to love that. And would just scream into the DS and make it really loud so it had that increased chance.
@The_Jho
@The_Jho 2 месяца назад
Simple buff for roar of time, if it kos with the attack it skips the charging, good old gen 1 mechanics
@lipika2841
@lipika2841 2 месяца назад
This should be the norm for pretty much every recharging move.
@cadetjones9205
@cadetjones9205 2 месяца назад
​@@lipika2841 Thank Arceus, y'all aren't balancing the game.
@nicolasromani3523
@nicolasromani3523 2 месяца назад
@@cadetjones9205 fr, one Choice Band or Choice specs and we would have all sorts of tanks nuking everything in sight with no drawback.
@ChrisWilliams-ur7fn
@ChrisWilliams-ur7fn 2 месяца назад
​@@cadetjones9205 People that ask for this would end up complaining about it almost immediately if it actually happened. It would dominate the meta.
@cadetjones9205
@cadetjones9205 2 месяца назад
@@ChrisWilliams-ur7fn Porygon Z alone would have them crying if this change happened.
@ronnycrawf2441
@ronnycrawf2441 2 месяца назад
I think grimmsnarls false surrender is a decent shout as it’s just an 80 BP dark move that can’t miss. It has access to darkest lariat, throat chop, sucker punch and foul play which all have better secondary effects, are stronger, the same base power or are priority so it would pretty much always prefer those options.
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 2 месяца назад
That is a good shoutout. Good to go against minimize/double team or evasion abilities. But if you are playing competitively you would likely never see those types of moves.
@otozinclus3593
@otozinclus3593 2 месяца назад
14:56 Triple Kick actually was used as a Niche option competetively in gen 3, to break through Subtitute Tyranitar
@javontehendrix86
@javontehendrix86 2 месяца назад
I used technician hitmotop with triple kick and it got me through many play thoughs
@TheFireHawkDelta
@TheFireHawkDelta 2 месяца назад
Electric has a ton of good signature moves because whenever Gamefreak wants to make an electric physical attacker good, they don't want it to spill over into making electric physical attackers good in general. So they get a signature move, becoming one of the few electric physical attackers allowed to have good STAB. The same thing happens with 100% accurate rock moves.
@Frank_Erz
@Frank_Erz 2 месяца назад
Kinesis is forgettable that they forgot to give it to the Abra line until Yellow, even though it does exist in the games before it.
@BucketBoysOfficial
@BucketBoysOfficial 2 месяца назад
Don’t worry Dipplin, I get confused sometimes too 😢🫶🏼
@CobaltPerseverance154
@CobaltPerseverance154 2 месяца назад
I think Powder should be the worst bug move. It was signature to Vivillon (Cutiefly gets it now too) and what it does is, if the target uses a fire type move, it prevents the move from coming out and deals a monumental... 1/4 of the targets health. Talk about underwhelming. It's just so niche and not worth it.
@TrixterTheFemboy
@TrixterTheFemboy 2 месяца назад
I've actually had great success with Topsy-Turvy on Malamar in Singles, using it when you're predicting an enemy to setup can be huge, especially against slow setup mons like Dondozo.
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 2 месяца назад
It’s such a cool concept of a move. Would be nice on a prankster mon to counter setup
@hexbug101
@hexbug101 2 месяца назад
Also comes in clutch on gen 7 playthroughs against totem mons
@edmg7
@edmg7 2 месяца назад
What kind of build do you use?
@markalexander5707
@markalexander5707 2 месяца назад
I had a similar thing with Gen VII Ubers. Geomancy Xerneas was such a massive threat until you reversed those stats.
@phillipclearman859
@phillipclearman859 2 месяца назад
Malamar! Turn that Dondozo into Don Bozo! (Sorry I watch too much Yugioh)
@piralos1329
@piralos1329 2 месяца назад
Fun fact, for a time in gen 7 topsy turvy was used in balance hackmons, in order to counter some of the stat boosting nonsense you could get up to, esp w/ Z-Geomancy!
@FranXiT
@FranXiT 2 месяца назад
Matt... give malamar a focus sash and Topsy turvy, switch it into a mon that is setting up (or sacrifice a mon to let it in for free if you wanna be super safe) and you have a guaranteed setup killer. It's great.
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 2 месяца назад
As long as there’s no hazards on the field😬
@FranXiT
@FranXiT 2 месяца назад
@@MattBudYT dude cmon you can hazard control with a different mon (or 2)
@_testrunning
@_testrunning 2 месяца назад
It is also great to cheese Ultra Nekrozma in a normal playthrough (or any other totem pokemon)
@drunkidiot8364
@drunkidiot8364 2 месяца назад
Aways wondered why barrage is a normal move, my bro eggie is the only one who knows it and they didint even make it grass or psychic type
@AwesomeWizard1
@AwesomeWizard1 2 месяца назад
I think that gen 1 waterfall was probably a worse signature move. It was exclusive to seaking (& goldeen) of all pokemon, & it was outclassed by surf. I'm presuming you didn't put it in the list because many people don't even know that waterfall existed in gen 1.
@thod-thod
@thod-thod 2 месяца назад
Topsy turvy carried me in totem fights
@HeavyWalrus2
@HeavyWalrus2 Месяц назад
Writing this strategy down for my next playthrough
@RobinZur
@RobinZur 2 месяца назад
silk trap actually has one of the best secondary effects of non status protects but isn't useful on spidops. shame it's exclusive
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 2 месяца назад
I'd argue the defense drop from Obstruct, Attack drop from King's Shield, and Burn from Bulwark are all better on their respective users. If Spidops had a bit more speed it would be better.
@FarmerTome1
@FarmerTome1 2 месяца назад
Waterfall, while a pretty good move now, and widely available to Pokemon since Gen 2, deserves an honorable mention for Water type. Only the Seaking line got it, and it was just weaker-Surf that they learned in place of Hydro Pump. It was Special damage and didn't flinch back then either
@falsnamae3511
@falsnamae3511 2 месяца назад
Topsy Turvy has one major use case: In Pokemon Sun/Moon Nuzlockes, you can fairly safely break down totem pokemon with it, as it will invert their Totem Boost, which in late encounters means inverting two omniboosts into omni-fails. Which you may say is completely niche... But hey, it's better than Kinesis.
@localnekonia6830
@localnekonia6830 2 месяца назад
Focus sash Malamar with topsy turvey is incredible in national dex seeing how much set up sweepers there is in that tier
@Kotatsu_Kevin
@Kotatsu_Kevin 2 месяца назад
Extra info for why Fairy Lock is the worst: In a specific version of Sword and Shield, Fairy Lock would crash the game if used. At first people thought it was because they had called it via metronome (myself and my friends included) however what was actually the case was a weird bug where Fairy Lock would crash the game if there were battle animations turned on, and while you can turn off the animations in a regular playthrough, online battles like singles/doubles had the animations turned on permanently, this bug lasted quote a while but was fixed in a later version update
@kalosianporygon
@kalosianporygon 2 месяца назад
Land's Wrath makes me want to watch a video about overshadowed signature moves.
@VIsForVentus
@VIsForVentus 2 месяца назад
7:30 Powder Signature move of Vivillon (Learnable in ONE game by ribombee and lost access to it after instantly so I say it counts as a signature move still) 100x worse than silk trap and you can’t say otherwise That or attack order simply because Special attacking vespiqueen is objectively more viable than physical
@PKshockwave
@PKshockwave 2 месяца назад
I disagree with your ice type and rock type options. Tar shot isn't great, but it has utility by lowering accuracy and making them be hit harder by fire moves. To me, if you're going to say roar of time is terrible because it's a hyper beam variant, then Rock Wrecker from Rhyperior I feel is the choice. As for ice, I'd say Ice ball. I know it’s not exactly a signature move anymore based on your criteria, but still
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 2 месяца назад
Rock wrecker isn't a bad choice. I think I didn't really look at it because it was a signature move for 1 generation and then Dweble/Crustle had access to it by level up since gen 5. Ice ball wasn't considered since a few lines had access via breeding in the same generation while others via level up a few generations later. Still a solid choice though if we are counting moves that were once "signature".
@BlackcapCoder
@BlackcapCoder 2 месяца назад
In pokemon detergent (a mod of insurgence), the cubone line gets the ability "bone zone" which doubles the power of bone moves, and also make them ignore immunities. It makes cubone somewhat viable. Trick-or-treat is problematic in doubles paired with curse: If a non-ghost type uses curse they don't get to select a target, because the move targets the user. They can then become a ghost type before the move is executed, but ghost-type curse requires a target, so what happens? The behavior has been different in every single game, including crashing the game!
@asanchezdem
@asanchezdem 2 месяца назад
"It makes cubone somewhat viable" bro never heard about Thick Club
@BlackcapCoder
@BlackcapCoder 2 месяца назад
​@@asanchezdem​it stacks with thick club, so it's pretty much a free belly drum on switch in
@shanerpressley
@shanerpressley 2 месяца назад
Triple Dive does not have a heightened crit chance but I'm assuming you meant 3 hits means more chances to crit? I went to Bulbapedia so quick when I heard that
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 2 месяца назад
By "additional critical hit chances" I mean that 3 hits give you more chances to crit than just 1 hit. Although I think having a higher crit chance per hit would make that move sweet, poor mans surging strikes.
@katzuma7641
@katzuma7641 2 месяца назад
Imagine if electrify turned any move used after into an electric type move
@YoursTrulyHero
@YoursTrulyHero 2 месяца назад
But doesn't sparkling aria help fight flame orb guts pokemon?
@herpderp1013
@herpderp1013 2 месяца назад
The flame orb would re-activate at the end of the turn
@lucasallen792
@lucasallen792 2 месяца назад
if primarina is faster (probably isnt). otherwise, in addition to doing nothing at all to reduce the incoming damage, also removes the burn chip damage
@midi5467
@midi5467 2 месяца назад
My thoughts regarding all mentioned moves: Barrage: would be forgivable if Exeggcute was found much earlier in the games they appear in Conversion 2: would have made so much more sense if it was given priority Trick or Treat: in generations without Tera, i can at least see utility in this when your ally is 4x weak to fighting Forest's Curse: i unironically like this move due to Grass' immunity to powder moves Sparkling Aria: i adore Primarina, so it hurts that their signature move has very little utility. Liquid Voice also makes for far more powerful sound-based Water moves on Primarina Shell Trap: i mean, it may catch your opponent off guard when they're not expecting it... but they're expecting it because you're using Turtonator Silk Trap: Spidops is the problem here Bone Club: currently playing through Pokemon Blue... and yeah, this move misses A LOT. and Cubone/Marowak aren't nearly fast enough to get those flinches Tar Shot: this one at least makes sense in Raid scenarios Purify: definitely needs reworked... at least allow Pyukumuku to recover even if their ally isn't status'd Kinesis: should either have better accuracy or lower opponent's accuracy AND evasion. May as well also make it a weak damage dealing move on top of that Triple Kick: like you said, it needs a slight BP boost, especially since Hitmontop has that Technician to power it up Chatter: i don't mind it due to confusion. But Chatot doesn't really have the stats to stand its ground even if we buff this move Freeze Shock/Ice Burn: should either have a greater chance of status like Beak Blast OR have an additional chance of causing freeze kinda like Tri Attack Dark Void: yeah let's just revert its accuracy to 80% now that Smeargle can't use it Topsy Turvy: yeah I got nothin' Fairy Lock: at least increase to 3 turns... let Klefki's influence be felt after it faints Shelter: due to its name, i thought it would also serve as a Protect variant... so maybe it should! Electrify: yeeeah i don't have a lot to say. It's already redundant as well as incredibly situational. Roar of Time: um... it's not sound-based?? I never knew that! Let's make it sound-based
@yab01keef67
@yab01keef67 2 месяца назад
I mean roar of time isnt actually a roar. Thats just the naming. The actual move is just a big laser dialga shoots and has nothing to do with roaring
@AI-DreigonGPT
@AI-DreigonGPT 2 месяца назад
Topsy Turvy is in gen 9
@midi5467
@midi5467 2 месяца назад
@@AI-DreigonGPT oh you're right. Don't know how I missed that
@pariahdark1892
@pariahdark1892 2 месяца назад
@@AI-DreigonGPT I thought it came in around Gen 6.
@AI-DreigonGPT
@AI-DreigonGPT 2 месяца назад
@@pariahdark1892 yeah but this is also in gen 9
@nevenpatrk9661
@nevenpatrk9661 2 месяца назад
Wait is Sparkling Aria even a signature move anymore? It was in Gen 7 and 8 but Lapras can use it via breeding in Gen 9. Edit: While Freeze Shock/Ice Burn is bad, I'd argue that Glaciate is worse.
@wooptyfrickendoo6203
@wooptyfrickendoo6203 Месяц назад
Glaciate is absolutely not worse. It's just better icy wind which is already a half decent move. Freeze shock and ice burn are basically unusable
@Prince_Eva_Huepow
@Prince_Eva_Huepow Месяц назад
And touch 1 mon compared to Glaciate glaciating the entire opponent's field​@@wooptyfrickendoo6203
@Prisoner-gk6lr
@Prisoner-gk6lr 2 месяца назад
Sabrina, the mad lad, loaded most of her Pokemon in Yellow with some of the most baffling, worst psychic moves, including either flash, kinesis or psywave. Since her AI was random, it was pure chance if Sabrina fired a powerful psychic or the mentioned lesser moves from her Abra-Kadabra-Alakazam line.
@jakubklemenski7380
@jakubklemenski7380 Месяц назад
Shelter actually obstructs the target in LA giving Goodra an evasion boost
@francescoantoniocrisconio194
@francescoantoniocrisconio194 2 месяца назад
*casually forgets glaciate is a signature move of base Kyurem and it's horrendous*
@awesomeocelot7475
@awesomeocelot7475 2 месяца назад
If a Pokémon can learn a signature move via breeding Bulbapedia seems to still consider it a signature move so
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 2 месяца назад
Yeah that’s why I still counted a move like Sparkling Aria.
@awesomeocelot7475
@awesomeocelot7475 2 месяца назад
@@MattBudYT gotcha. I know that Decidueyes’s (both of them) and incinaroar’s signature moves are better.
@ktrikoukis1462
@ktrikoukis1462 2 месяца назад
Bro how do you only have 4.38K subs, this video popped up in my recommended and I could have sworn you have 100K from the quality. Keep it up 👍🏻
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 2 месяца назад
That’s the dream! I just started 4-5 months ago so trying to work my way up. Appreciate the comment
@ktrikoukis1462
@ktrikoukis1462 2 месяца назад
@@MattBudYT with content of this quality it won't take long, keep up the good effort and you'll make it
@jackferring6790
@jackferring6790 2 месяца назад
Here's a idea to buff Roar of Time: make it so both the user and the target have to recharge for one turn. It works thematically and could be useful in doubles or with Leftovers
@Skullhawk13
@Skullhawk13 2 месяца назад
Or just make recharge moves work universally like megaton hammer.
@astuteanansi4935
@astuteanansi4935 Месяц назад
Or give Dialga the ability to skip all chargeup and recharge effects. It's the master of time, after all. It's criminal that it never got an actually good ability that fits its flavor
@FranXiT
@FranXiT 2 месяца назад
I feel like Smelling Salts might be far worse than Barrage, however it's technically not a signature move. Still tho. It's so insanely bad.
@thod-thod
@thod-thod 2 месяца назад
It’s 70-140BP and on many different lines
@josephdavis9234
@josephdavis9234 Месяц назад
Back in the day, I did double battles with a Gourgeist and Snorlax. Normal/Ghost Snorlax with Curse, Recycle, and Figy Berry is devastating.
@warmwater9509
@warmwater9509 2 месяца назад
so like fun fact about chatter: it actually was the reason chatot got banned from tournaments for a while. If you're wondering how: you could record a sound to then have it be played when chatot used chatter. I think we all know where this went.
@naturelulI
@naturelulI 2 месяца назад
"I think BDSP is good."
@Skullhawk13
@Skullhawk13 2 месяца назад
@@naturelulI*DS explodes*
@Voliharmin
@Voliharmin 2 месяца назад
What a video! Like and sub for you, with high quality videos like this one this channel will grow.
@RegrowRed
@RegrowRed 2 месяца назад
In gen 3, conversion 2 has use for trapping both magneton and dugtrio using porygon2's trace ability and becoming immune or resistant to their stab moves, though its still super niche
@kennethaninon6913
@kennethaninon6913 2 месяца назад
Magnet Bomb should've been included, since it only learns on Magnemite line & Probopass, to which all have very low Attack stat & Magnet Bomb doesn't fit them due to Magnet Bomb being Physical & said Pokemon have higher Special Attack than Physical Attack
@Asm0d3u5
@Asm0d3u5 2 месяца назад
Lots of interesting moves!!
@mikaelcrucible
@mikaelcrucible 2 месяца назад
the point you made on topsy turvy is spot on considering it has its uses in the balanced hackmons format to counter a lot of contrary abusers!
@mettatonex7221
@mettatonex7221 25 дней назад
I think it's important to consider the original context of Shelter. In Scarlet and Violet, it's just Acid Armor with less PP, but in Legends Arceus, it provides Goodra with a boost to both Defense and Special Defense, Obscures it (temporarily raises its Evasiveness), and raises its action speed. All of this is... frankly fantastic for a single use of a move.
@darylchua2168
@darylchua2168 2 месяца назад
The one use I found for Trick-or-Treat is to pin Ghost type onto a tank about to set up Curse and watch it half kill itself for free.
@ashemabahumat4173
@ashemabahumat4173 Месяц назад
I remember one time where I domed an OU tier leader/mod in gen 7 with Turonator, dude didn't know it got shell smash and he had no answer after I had something else chew through it lol
@heyitsnyixie_1559
@heyitsnyixie_1559 Месяц назад
Shelter was actually nerfed because in Arceus, it rose both defenses AND rose evasion. So even if you could hit the thing, it wouldn't do much damage.
@eliasoak3296
@eliasoak3296 2 месяца назад
Trick or Treat was top teir for a moment in VGC. Paired with Tyranitar it removed its fighting weakness and allowed dark attacks to hit for weakness.
@victorlinares4137
@victorlinares4137 2 месяца назад
11:23 that milestone got destroyed great vid
@BlackKoiRecords
@BlackKoiRecords 2 месяца назад
I subbed! This is the content I enjoy, great work! I just wish Game Freak enjoyed it as much as we do. 😔
@felman87
@felman87 2 месяца назад
1000 likes! Yes, we're getting best signature move!
@Tacticalcupcakes
@Tacticalcupcakes Месяц назад
Throat Spray on Primarina is based with Sparkling Aria Though by your criteria it wouldn’t fit since Lapras gets Sparkling Aria as of Gen 8
@thesuperthingymabob8209
@thesuperthingymabob8209 2 месяца назад
I actually used triple kick a lot in colosseum but colo is kinda known for having limited options lol
@benji7449
@benji7449 2 месяца назад
Silktrap should not only just lower speed but should've trapped them from switching as the move name
@BluMNBafnGaming
@BluMNBafnGaming 2 месяца назад
Tripple dive can also activate polosands water compaction ability 3 times for a +6 defence boost ontop of triggering a weakness policy and with wugtrios high speed it’s a realy good suport Pokémon for polosand
@WillDawg01
@WillDawg01 2 месяца назад
I had one of the trolly-ist Umbreons in gen 6 and 7 thanks to Trick or Treat and Snatch.
@jeanquiquampoix8836
@jeanquiquampoix8836 4 дня назад
Z-trick-or-treats gives +1 to all stats and was quite fun to play with in low tier single ^^
@marcosdheleno
@marcosdheleno Месяц назад
in defense of electrify, you could use it on 2 turn/charge attacks to lessen the blow. of course, you would still need to be faster, but i can see it being useable in certain situations,
@Thunder-Sky
@Thunder-Sky 2 месяца назад
just hearing what fairy lock does, the only use case I can think of for it is to use perish song, switch in klefki on 2nd last turn, and then prankster fairy lock on last turn
@hydrochlorination
@hydrochlorination 2 месяца назад
I've found great success in 1v1s using a gimmick stall porygon2 set with conversion 2 on it. Most pokemon tend to run choice items, so resisting whatever move it uses can go a long way.
@Epzilon12
@Epzilon12 2 месяца назад
Topsy Turvy seems like it would be great in a format like Balanced Hackmons, given the extreme boosting moves available
@GrayBeans
@GrayBeans 2 месяца назад
A interesting use in doubles could be having a faser heavy hitter with guts and a toxic orb and cleansing and healing it after they swing for damage so they dont take damage and you heal damage? It may work honestly, especially if toxic orb reprocs every turn (thats my thoughts on purify atleast for a use) if I am wrong feel free to correct me its like 3am and I am listening to this to go to bed so I thought id leave my comment before I forget lol
@doorbox788
@doorbox788 2 месяца назад
sadly even with trick or treat you cant give any pokemon an 8x weakness, as the only two types that hit ghost super effectively are ghost itself and dark, and neither of those two moves can hit 3 types super effectively either
@doorbox788
@doorbox788 2 месяца назад
however with forest curse you could hit something like a scizor with it and watch it melt even faster to fire attacks
@jasonbarry3301
@jasonbarry3301 4 дня назад
Tar shot is for switch reads. It leaves your opponents incoming mon in a position where even if they could have easily tanked a fire attack now they cant and if they stay in and kill your mon they have to face your next pokemon at a speed deficit putting them at tempo loss at best and leaving an opening for you to set up at worst. It’s not good but that’s what it’s for.
@wyattbehm3994
@wyattbehm3994 2 месяца назад
lapras gets access to sparkling aria making it a not so signature move
@andrewmurphy5532
@andrewmurphy5532 2 месяца назад
I actualy used poltergeist gorgiest on my most recent radical red randomizer, along with shadow sneak mimicu, it was actualy low key a broken af strat
@thod-thod
@thod-thod 2 месяца назад
What about Kyurem’s 65BP glaciate?
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 2 месяца назад
That’s better icy wind which is a popular move in VGC. Targets both opponents lowering their speed 1 stage each.
@TheBT
@TheBT 2 месяца назад
Mythical Pokemon are no longer banned in VGC, they were made legal in the post season in 2022 between Worlds and S&V. They are just not allowed in the current formats, the question is will they be legal when Restricted mons are legal.
@darkwarrior03352
@darkwarrior03352 16 дней назад
Any move that disables the opponent in some way but only for one turn, I automatically consider to be bad moves. Like Protect, yeah you are protected from the next move, but you are also wasting your turn to use this move, so really all you did was make the battle take longer.
@rykermeinel6153
@rykermeinel6153 2 месяца назад
P2 very, very rarely uses Conversion 2 in gen 3 to counter trap Dugtrio and Magneton. Dugtrio it can trap anyway with recover spam or ice beam, but conversion 2 can make it easier to come out at 100% health (also 2 crits can ruin your trap) and adds the potential to trap magneton which you normally can’t threaten, but can sit on certain sets forever as a ground type. I’ve seen a cursed set with Conversion 2/Flash to sit on and cripple Dug/Mag and allow trace Gardevoir to come in and set up on after…
@elijahdekuyter6810
@elijahdekuyter6810 2 месяца назад
Topsy turvey is what holds some BH meta games together
@MooseKINGstudios
@MooseKINGstudios Месяц назад
I honestly didn’t even know Barrage existed until Sword and Shield.
@khushboogarg3423
@khushboogarg3423 2 месяца назад
Truly Epic❤
@BucketBoysOfficial
@BucketBoysOfficial 2 месяца назад
Now this is deep 🙏🏼
@PhilLeeVGKing1
@PhilLeeVGKing1 4 дня назад
i could see a potential use for sparkling aria: to use against pokemon with flame orb guts. but it would have to be faster, and i'm not so sure about that base 60 speed...
@619Slipk
@619Slipk 2 месяца назад
Look at that triple dive animation I ain't got all day Place it as the worst just for that lol
@ohno5559
@ohno5559 2 месяца назад
This would be an Unown sweep if the move didn't have to be signature in the original generation lmao In BDSP, Unown is the only pokemon to get Hidden Power, and even though Hidden Power isn't a bad move in a vacuum and Unown obviously needs it, Unown is just never useful under any circumstances. So from a certain POV, Unown's Hidden Power is the least useful signature move of every type. I typed this before finishing the video so I sure hope it isn't mentioned or I'm gonna feel like a chump
@gnammyhamster9554
@gnammyhamster9554 2 месяца назад
In gen 1, kinesis has a niche for aiding against other kazams and chanseys
@aaronlucas8105
@aaronlucas8105 2 месяца назад
Would forest’s curse or trick or treat give a Tera Pokémon an additional type?
@kattgaming5163
@kattgaming5163 Месяц назад
Does toxic web hit both opponets like string shot? if thats the case it would actually be extremely good in doubles if another pokemon got it
@seangunnell9451
@seangunnell9451 2 месяца назад
Actually, I don't mind Roar of time. Also, Silk Trap at least protects from damage. I know an even more useless signature bug move. In gen 6, Vivillon had a move called Powder and all that did was if the opponent was about to use a fire type move on that turn, it would instead attack the opponent instead of Vivillon. Sure, it would turn one of Vivillon's weaknesses against the opponent, but it literally does nothing if the opposing Poke'mon doesn't use a fire type attack the turn Powder is used. And yes, Powder did let Vivillon go first, even if the opponent was faster.
@Prince_Eva_Huepow
@Prince_Eva_Huepow Месяц назад
Trevanant would have to Forest Curse the opponent to hit it with its super effective moves, mostly Poison Jab, Aerial Ace(?) & Infestation. A bit hard to achieve sometimes when those moves are mediocre at best, so I understand your choice
@MotorcycleCheetah
@MotorcycleCheetah Месяц назад
As someone who loves Primarina, I really wish Sparkling Aria was more like Pollen Puff with it’s Heal Mechanic. It’d damage a foe but if used on an Ally it’d heal their Status condition. I feel like that’d be infinitely better. But as someone who doesn’t use The Liquid Voice ability, I use Sparkling Aria on Primarinas who aren’t on Water Absorb Teams. I don’t trust Hydro Pump. omo
@sc9573
@sc9573 2 месяца назад
wait sound based moves hit through substitute? when did that happen
@AceAviations2
@AceAviations2 2 месяца назад
I'm not sure that Chatter deserved to be on the list, considering that it was BANNED in Gen6 PU. I'm 100% serious about this.
@wwijsman
@wwijsman 2 месяца назад
Funny, Topsy Turvy is now being used in VGC by some people and they are having success with it.
@ninomitchell2039
@ninomitchell2039 2 месяца назад
Honestly the only time I've seen trick-or-treat be decent was in doubles with a curse staller (mostly snorlax). Even then, it's niche and you need to jump through a couple hoops with even a small gourgeist
@thisisausername9356
@thisisausername9356 Месяц назад
As someone who saw it first in PMD and got obliterated by it, It's so funny seeing that it's just awful in the main games
@huntersnyder4358
@huntersnyder4358 Месяц назад
Has anyone tried Cell Battery on a physical Boltund with Electrify? I get that Intimidate exists and that also triggers Competitive, which is the superior option, but I want to watch someone try making this work
@stormRed
@stormRed 7 дней назад
Would be fun if Ion Deluge could make an opponent trigger lightning rod.
@Tylerthemusicophile
@Tylerthemusicophile 6 дней назад
Forest curse is a KEY move on my doubles team
@johancito16345
@johancito16345 2 месяца назад
I mean, if a pokemon like volcarona or his past variant had silk trap then the move would be pretty busted imo
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