The Worst Superhero Date Is Kind Of Amazing | Astro City 

Very much agreed, he brings an interesting twist by combining the common tropes of orphaned and out-of-time.

you'll probably love the invincible comic. One story from start to finish with 144 issues.

​@@ProjektTakuLegitimately my favorite superhero comic as a result of that. It's legitimately epic and more often than not actually brilliant

I honestly have never cared if the classic DC or Marvel characters ever aged but it's cool to see in a creator-owned series. Another appeal for me about AC (as well as POWERS, INVINCIBLE, IRREDEEMABLE and others) is a whole superhero universe (mostly0 contained in one book!

For the most part, I agree. But the moving in real-time does bother me sometimes. Particularly with the delays. I mean, Astra is now in her late 30s. Roscoe became Jack-in-the-box 27 years ago Sometimes it just feels tragic, to get attached to these characters and then only see them through small glimpses for the rest of their heroic careers

@@MrThomasC22 I do understand what you mean, but I really feel the opposite, that I love how Astro City feels like a novel that way - a character can fascinate over a few pages and never be seen again, but still have a lasting impact on myself as a reader.

The flash can outrun ninja's, but can he dodge talking about having kids and pressure from the in-laws?

I'm glad that the last Flash story I read a few months ago was the modern era giving Wally a break and just writing good Dad stories. I hope DC can avoid trying to ruin him long enough for us to get a longer good run of him. Or for someone else to get a chance at being Flash

What is the comic

It is a fairly interesting idea to ponder. Not some psycho villain masquerading as a hero, she's simply a hero with biases she can't help and it causes you ponder whether or not she is actually correct, instead of the story deciding it for you. She says she consciously decides to save women first, but also states that its only if everything else is equal. Is she right since she could probably save both? Or not so since she is actively prioritizing someone more personal to her, a woman (in a sense its the question of "would superman save lois lane before he saved some random window wiper?"), over someone she seemingly has less of a personal relation to, a man, and potentially, intentionally letting someone die over personal beliefs? Does that even matter since if she rescues the man first the woman dies and if she rescues the woman first the man dies, and then it becomes about the message each rescue and death represent. Or is that even right since she's choosing lives over what message they could send?

The new series follows up on that, and it's pretty good on that; I don't know if Busiek was aware of trans-exclusive radical feminists at the time, but my god, her group gave such strong vibes. Not to go into detail but I like the resolution of the story, felt like finally letting go of the unhealthy ideas of the 90s and Second Wave feminism (according to WV patrons a female hero having being in relationship was bad, apparently)

"understand where she’s coming from and why she thinks that way," No I can't.

'I'd LIKE to save the world, but I can't DO that and not save the men as well...." Yeah, that's borderline psychopathic. Reminds me of the old Green Lantern/Green Arrown scene where an old geezer accuses Hal of not helping SPECIFICALLY black residents of Earth.

@@ProjektTaku Defiantly makes you ponder. Really this makes me think that there are times where the message does need to take a backseat. If everything is about sending a message you don't always see situations for what they are. In beginner first aid your taught in triage to save those who you can save as safely as possible. I would choose the woman but that's because I know I can swim, I was taught how to get someone out of water and know CPR. I can at least try to fix drowning. I can't fix a guy mid fall. The desire to send a message can also backfire. Messages only work if people get the one your trying to send. deliberate saving a women when it may have been more convenient to rescue a man, and chauvinists will cry out sexism and use it as a example of straw man feminists being real. Your not getting sexists to change their minds by doing that at best, actively hurting the feminist cause at worse. Maybe you help a woman you save realise she isn't invisible anymore after rescuing from drowning. People aren't going to suddenly feel empowered by a conscious choice to choose a minority in a weird situation. I sent this to a friend. As she points out the issue isn't with the answer. It's with the question itself. Its a the trolly problem. Everyone is talking about witch track instead of the true hero answer: You throw the switch as it goes over the split to derail the train and possibly save everyone.

If you’re invited by Lois on a date, you know something’s wrong with you. Lois doesn’t go on dates. She just gets married.

The topic is bad dates, not bad engagements.

​@@dallasgrey4247Early and often.

Lois Lane is in Astro City: Local Heroes #2

@@MakiPcrthat one made me sad

Agreed. Well said.

Idk, I think Superman & Lois is a better example. That Clark is very humanized and he does get mad at points but never overly so and he, at heart, is a big softie who just wants the best for his kids. He has a grit to his superman that leads to him feeling real but also powerful and awe-inspiring. Plus bonus points for adapting the fleischer suit, atom man and Bizarro was a very good parallel to Clark.

​@projekttaku1753 My issue with Clark and Lois is that it never actually feels like Lois and Clark, it's almost always Lois and Superman. Sometimes Clark and Superman don't even feel like a singular person.

@@aiakumu3579 I'm confused, are you talking about the old "lois and clark" or "superman & lois"? Anywys I think they balance the regular clark kent dad stuff with the superman stuff, plus clark and superman not feeling like a singular person is a mainstay since reeves and All-Star.

Superman/Woder Woman by Charles Soule had that.

It really is very good.

I've always been a fan of Anderson's work,he's under-rated for sure.

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If it helps, I didn't get it until I read this comment.

I was coming to the comments to say something similar! "Grown up" is _exactly_ the right term, since "adult" is so often misused. (As is "mature".) And, while I don't mind "adult" or "mature" comics, I am far more impressed by the still-too-rare people who use the medium to tell stories for grown-ups!

Reminds me of the flex mentally quote. "Only a foolish adolescent could confuse pessimism for realism"

Ah, Flex Mentallo; the man, the myth, the leopard print shorts! @@patrickmoler8025

The most recent Astro City collections are published by Image as "Metrobooks". This story is in Metrobook #1, and if you liked Sasha's reading, you'll probably love the whole series.

What's so bad about the silver agent story?

Silver Agent is my favorite Astro City hero, and we waited so long for his story to be told, I guess I had high hopes. It's been years since I read it and I remember thinking it was convoluted and kind of "meh"@@galactic85

I think I agree. I think it was a bit disappointing how it all came out, particularly when we got a number of references before we got the actual story. I *really* thought it was going to be a comment on McCarthyism....

The Incredibles is/are a great FF analogue.

Astro City has the feel that Busiek wrote it to make the point that telling superhero stories for adults is not about cursing, sex and ultra violence. That you can have emotinal depth in the stories while being surrounded by bright colours and the absurd hijinks of silver age stories he grew up with.

Honestly, I'm not sure it would adapt well to either. It is something that is very firmly rooted in its own medium, and as a loving homage to Superhero comic books it works best as that.

I'm out anytime someone says, "you simply must." Regardless, she covered them both in a video 2 years ago titled "Astro City Confession." You simply must watch them.

@@hotspurre And even if it _could_ be adapted well, there's no guarantee it _would_ be! Hollywood's notions about comics have improved over the last decade or so, but they're still pretty shallow in some ways. I'd worry that they'd try to turn it into something more like _The Boys._

I think it’s a deconstruction but also a reconstruction