The WORST Thing in Honkai Star Rail...  

or the four star ones you get from the forgotten hall

I think really the only bad one in there is Nihility, it's trumped by Sampo's signature. I have Sampo's signature on him funnily enough, and they have an almost IDENTICAL passive - key difference ? The herta store 5-star only gives the DoT boost for 2 turns, while Sampo's sig is permanent. People call the 5-star his best-in-slot because it's shiny and a 5 and provides about 100 more atk, but you can make up for that atk with his relics anyways. Better to take that 100 atk loss over biting your DoT in the ass.

@@CoffinsApricity I don't have sampo's signature, so I've got the 5 star herta cone on my Guinaifen. Seems to do decent enough.

@@KiranasOfRizon It's decent enough, it's just the DoT boost only lasting 2 turns is a huge letdown when Sampo's sig has it permanently.

@@CoffinsApricity I agree with you, except your suggestion that you can make up for a light come lack with relics. Why aren't you wearing those relics anyway? No, it's simply that the atk loss is an acceptable trade for the DoT boost. But yeah, I hear the Nihility one isn't popular, although if you have all the rest, you may as well buy and SI that one too, you know?

Yah and theres also a word "Flexible" which was his point. Hes basically just speaking from experience since other hoyoverse games also has signature weapons whereas its not as restricted as it is to just one character.

"Im not talking about how good they are for the set character. Im talking about how inflexible they are." Now read it again and again until you get it.

​@@raaaanndyyyy but that's why the whole counter to that point is defining the word SIGNATURE.. it means the item should NOT be flexible.. that's why you have 4 stars.. weaker items but more universal.. what's the point of creating multiple strong items if one of those is universal..? Just use the universal one then and never use the others.. that's how things should be.. you can be really really good in one thing but suck at the rest.. or you can be mediocre at everything.. variety becomes obsolete if one thing is really really good at everything..

Signature should be a perfect fit for their respective 5 star but not completely niche for the other characters. Sparkle's light cone is good but literally can only be used on her.

​@@raaaanndyyyythe only game that has those is genshin from mihoyo hi3rd signature stigma and weap are exclusive to the chara

exactly. The casual creator didn't even know its his new bis😏

me who put it on literally every single nihility character and play a crit dps build 😅

My welt has not even 150 cd or 70 cr and his skill is at like level 4 or 5 and I'm hitting some pretty decent numbers, I think the highest I got was 70k total

Yep this lc does good on my welt

Yep my 60/201 crit ratio Welt be looking clean, Acheron can rot with GNSW 😅

Exactly, i dont get it why they are expecting a lightcone to be generalist when they are made for a specific character ? 🥴

@@Kross_Vik because there are Genshin, where a lot of characters can use different signatures and be happy

@@danifit24 Yeah but in this case, Genshin is the one that weird. GGZ and Hi3 all have restriction on sig, I would say Genshin actually bad at balancing Sig weapons and their restriction and now it can be used on most characters. Sig weapon is supposed to berestrictive, the whole argument cause Genshin exist is invalid cause they are the only one that have flexibillity. Good on Genshin, but if most 3* food place is average, and then one 3* food place is actually better than the rest, it's either: 1. It's not comparable to other 3* food place, or; 2. It's supposed to be compared to other 4*/5* food place. TL;DR Sig weapon supposed to do that, it's not a minus point on other games, but more a plus point to Genshin.

​@@danifit24 genshin still stuck at 180 resin, shut up man 😂

@@danifit24Genshin is such a bad example. Yes they weapons are much more flexible but than you have examples like homa staff who is the second best in slot for every character that wields a polearm. Also you should consider that Genshin has a complete different weapon banner System. The possibility that you get a signature weapon you don’t want is much higher than in starrail.

Sushang can definitely use it. Her SPD boost is huge. She can easily reach 160

@@PureLunari yep exactly!

Alot of hunt characters require high speed into their build, and with the glamoth planar set , the high speed benefits them alot since the glamoth set gives a high damage bonus at 160 speed , granted it is difficult to get a build like this and still have optimal damage because just like crit speed is rare, but still ,seele LC isn't as inflexible as the guy says.

I was just about to say this. Don't know what bro is on when making this, but Seele (Sushang, Yanqing, Dan Heng, Dr Ratio) and Silver Wolf's (Welt, Pela, Acheron) LCs are actually pretty flexible. Not to Jing Yuan's degree, but still flexible.

Half the harmony in the game have speed boosts, I agree with his point but Seele LC is a terrible example, Topaz and Jingliu much better examples of inflexible Cones.

First time ?

The pain is Realll

I had a double crit piece that was going to be for Ratio and it rolled into Effect Res. All of it.

@@adenlaible7066 Lol, I'm not even surprise. That's a Common occurance at this point 🥹

@@CVdesu Oftentimes when I got a double crit piece it had a tendency to roll (and only upgrade)BE or EHR rather than ER. Or anything else for that matter. That honestly generated a lot of PSTD. If I saw a crit piece with BE or EHR, I would almost immediately scrapped it. My Ratio has so much Break Effect and EHR that his Summation is almost acting as the hard carry for how bricked he is.

TRU

No, pull only right characters and cones can get you through all the levels, y’all lack self control when pulling every character while complaining. So either control your hand or pay up

It's free to win not free to win by not doing a thing

It actually costs 0 bucks to win in this game as well….. So yeah, free to win is also true.

Free to Play F2P/Free to Pay F2P

"This nihility Lightcone is the signature LC for Acheron... But I can't use it on Kafka because she doesn't scale with Crit damage"

@@Jan-bk2qv It's also funny how wrong this video is because Seele's LC is literally the Jing Yuan LC of the Hunt path given how it's the BiS for everyone except Dr Ratio and Topaz (who can still use it for the godly permanent crit rate boost).

​@@Jan-bk2qvBro forgot Welt :(

listen to the video first nro

@@gloomy9728 it's literally only better by a couple percent and it's good on as many character as it's bad on

The hunt and destruction ones are decent second options, the others tho are straight up garbage

@@wraithhe nihility one is good for blackswan

​@@wraithhe preservation is pretty good and nihility is for pure fiction dot characters I don't see anything bad about them

@@wraithhe The Preservation is working pretty good for me on Fu Xuan. Her light come is probably better, but I saved up on jades cause it feels pretty good. Went for Boothill's instead.

Just use 4 star weapons that are literally made to be worn by those 4 stars? How's a 5* signature for the other character makes building 4* characters any harder lmao. Argenti's LC is barely any better than QQ's signature 4* for crying out loud.

​@@Tiberium9000 Argenti LC is actually better simply because it lessens the need for crit grinding. Got the Argenti LC for Qingque and it's been a massive boost to her damage

@@MrWasabiTrash i never said it's not better. And you really need less crit grinding simply because it has 36% CD? Lol. You really think that's a lot? It does help, but it's nowhere near being as impactful as you say.

​@@MrWasabiTrashHis e1 = 40 CD, its better, than LC. 36% CD not worth 60-70 pulls

@@Tiberium9000 base stats r a thing lol

it's even easier to get them than the characters, since you hard pity earlier and you're 75% to get the rate up weapon

@@Datbombboody its 75 25 for genshin weapon banner too

and also because they are not visible on the character you are not compromising their design if you don't have the signature one (or if it's not matching the character well)

@@nt0027 yet no fate point system

@@nt0027 Genshin has 2 rate-up weapons in its weapon banners. making it so that after you win the 75% you also need to win a 50% to get the desired weapon, so the true odds are 37.5% not 75%.

And if they add more standard LC, it'll be a pain to lose a 50/50 and get some random LC that you don't need

Uh huh... yeah compare these cone to genshins "Signature weapons" and those are more flexible compared to HSR.

​@@sbenkenchin6452 idk man there are some REALLY niche weapons, most "generalist" weapons are only used because they have absolutely stupid amounts of crit rate/crit dmg

​@sbenkenchin6452 and they are very inflexible in HI3 them being flexible (not even all of them) in Genshin means nothing

​@@sbenkenchin6452 Lil bro really tryna say Genshin weapons are more flexible than Light Cones lmao

​​​@@kurimiaisukurimuA lot of the 5-Star ones absolutely are though. Every Polearm character can get great value from Staff of Homa, Staff of the Scarlet Sands or Primordial Jade Winged-Spear. Bow characters have Aqua Simulacra, Polar Star, Skyward Harp, and Hunter's Path (and Elegy for the End for support). Claymore characters have Beacon of the Reed Sea, Wolf's Gravestone and Redhorn Stonethresher. Sword characters have Primordial Jade Cutter and Mistsplitter Reforged (and Key of Khaj-Nisut for HP scaling characters like Nilou, Furina or Kuki). And finally, catalysts have Kagura's Verity and Lost Prayers to the Sacred Winds.

I have Sparkle und her con. But she wear Bronya con(for energy regen). Her con I give Hanya e6 and she become a monster. Dmg Boost Action point Atk% boost Speed boost (ult + artifact set) Crit boost (con and relics) I use her more then Sparkle :D

He's a clown fr And this is why I avoid all communities except the HI3rd one and the "genshin" Star Rail players

But 5 star weapons in genshin are usually always flexible and works on more than 2 characters and even in some cases can be used on other 5 stars of the same type

@@juandalepringle2686 ok there is no way you left this comment during Arlecchino's premier.

@@FrostyPeppercorn ahh yes because one weapon that released now TOTALLY means all weapons in genshin are bad. Could i perhaps redirect you to missplitter? Aqua simulacra? Itto’s weapon? Staff of homa? Kaguras verity? Elegy of the end? Engulfing lightning?

@@FrostyPeppercorn you want me to keep going?

no a lot of 4 stars and free 5 stars light cones are good, yes its not optimal but thats why theyre called BEST IN SLOTS.

Legit what i was thinking. Although perfect for jingliu, it still stacks up.. On the damage the enemy does to your team.. meaning if your team gets hit three times, Boom.. maxed out.

​@@BlueToadPersonnope it's not good on anyone but the crazy marastruck lady

@@Scope34 you can literally give it any destruction character. Jingliu uses it the most efficient way but it is a decent LC for other characters

@@rxptar it's worse than the f2p option "fall of an aeon" why would you pull a 5* lc when a free one is better?

@@Scope34 Because you might have multiple characters???? We can, at this point in time, only have one copy of the Herta LCs.

What is the TikTok bill? It sounds like im living under a rock, sorry about that

@sauceycoriander tik tok is gonna get banned in 9 months, unless they sell it to an American company.

@@sauceycoriander I think they're banning TikTok in the US or something. I'm a little late, so you might already know.

Pela just becomes a DPS with Acheron's lightcone lmao

​@@exoticbutters1760with Welts to. E make 50k dmg lmao, but you need e6

@@metrol0g Welt also hits like a nuke with Acheron's lightcone

one time i saw some 110% crit rate dr. ratio build an he wasn't even on his sigature lightcone he was using a s2 copy of seele's lightcone

@exoticbutters1760 Dr. Crit Ratio

There actually is an argument that can be made that Bronya’s signature could be better for sparkle than her own signature lol

@@loppedoffhead1 and this argument is completely wrong, Sparkle LC S1 Crit Value for the party is 55,5, besides looking way less than her own Crit Value buff, it is actually 35% of her total Crit Value buff.

@@RafaelAraujo-by8kb Bronya’s signature can provide a 10% energy regen buff on top of the buff for the next ally taking turn(which is almost always the ally that sparkle buffs) when sparkle uses her skill. But ofc this lightcone option can only be equal to her signature if you are using heavy sp usage teams, like Dan IL or QQ.

@@loppedoffhead1 i main QQ and IL and I tested both LC, Bronya LC isn't even near of Sparkle LC on Sparkle for both IL and QQ cuz they have much more Bonus Damage% than Crit Value, SP generation of Bronya LC is nowhere near changing bad SP results, better just play right SP than be dependent on a inferior LC. Bronya LC just works on Sparkle, its a little good addition, but DDD S5 can do better im most of scenarios.

I mean they have to give you some reason to pull for them

@@darkfox1861 that reason being a lack of f2p options that even come close to it? hsr already releases 2 new characters, the pulls are barely enough to guarantee 1 you cant risk going for a lightcone just because acheron has 1 f2p accesible

@@roxas5071 I mean if you like the character go all in for them and just don’t care to much plus there’s the herta shop light cones which are really good plus their flexible

@@darkfox1861 not a single herta shop lightcone fits acheron blade's other accesible options are even higher at like 30% worse