The WORST "What If" in NBA History! 

Omfg Duncan and Wallace defensively

Good lord.

@@ballinsoro4633teams would’ve scored 50 pts a game

As a magic fan, I have PTSD from this

@@Buttington_Headersontake it this way at least you don’t have a legacy of drafting busts like the Trailblazers(no offense to the Blazers fan base)

They would have made the finals from 2001-03 if they were healthy. They beat the 76ers in 01 and the Nets 02-03

He did say he regrets leaving Vince back then.

Allstar games?

Tracy McGrady was with the Spurs for the 2012-2013 season. He only sat on the bench though lol. He could’ve won a ring too

@@JD-iu6rvYep. If he was in at the end of game 6 of the finals, I bet he woulda blocked Ray Allen! Or at the least got the rebound from Bosh so they wouldn't have had the opportunity at all...😅

and think they could have had a big 3 years before Boston with TMac, Duncan and Grant Hill. I wonder if they stayed healthy if this would have moved up the super team era to the mid 2000s instead of the 2010s.

​@@robg8203nah he was trash

That’s foul 🤣🤣

😂😂😂

Mike had game won rookie of the year could shoot the lights out had handle could pass loved mike in orlando

andyhoops did a vid on him

Good playmaker could play 1-3 effectively along with the shot

probably because they were both primary wing scorers, they occupied the same role. hill was more of a slashing point forward, not a dynamic go to scorer and while duncan was a 1st option his role was as a 2 way post player not a wing scorer. think of it as the way people have an issue with tatum and brown or pg and kawhi, I don't have an issue with it and I think all 3 could work but I think that's the concern. Imagine MJ and Drexler as a pairing vs like MJ and Hakeem.

@@cm8152yeah hahaha that’s why Kobe and Shaq along with Bron and AD mesh so well

⁠@@cm8152The funny thing is Mj, Drexler, and Hakeem could’ve been the same team. Now that right there is a “What If”.

​@@ebenezeronilei would not want to see this mainly clyde and mj on the same team. Jordan and Hakeem would've won like 25 rings

@@SolaceMcflyClyde and Jordan is the Celtics’s Js. But Hakeem and Jordan would’ve won from like 89-98 or something like that.

Doc did confirmed in an interview.

I feel like that's the same for every team he's coached. :D

Didn’t McGrady make it out of the first round as a reserve on San Antonio?

​@fortynights1513 ironically yes😭

Idk, one thing about this is one.. they got Timmy lookin like white Kobe or something 😂

Same!

Bro literally no one cares

@@Raft-Rider because you dont suffer from it. If ine person can rest better, it matters.

Hakeem's first title would be in there. Sure the second one was a lower seed, but he had no Drexler.

Nah, you don't deserve a ring. You earn one. If they didn't get it then they didn't earn it.

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Mookie blaylock

It was very well known here in Orlando and around the nba Duncan didn’t come because of that. I have a older cousin who played for years and he said that was the gossip around the league. That’s also when player empowerment starts to happen because of that.

I know just say steals and block like bro shut the hell up with this stocks bullshit

I think it came from fantasy bball tbh. I’m a massive NBA nerd, have been for a long time, and the first time I heard ppl use stocks was in fantasy bball. 9 categories H2H, you set a lineup for a week and whoever wins more categories wins the week (can tie) then the records work just like FFB. The 9 categories are FG%, FT%, 3PM, ASSTS, REB, TOV, PTS, STLS, BLKS. So ppl would say stuff like “I need a guy that gets a bunch of stocks” etc. I pretty rarely hear it used outside of that. PS: VORP is pretty useless, a lot of those single advanced stats are. They’re all flawed and you have to know how they’re flawed, and kinda use them as just another piece of info while putting together incomplete info. Stuff like BPM, VORP, pretty bleh stats. Catch all stats are usually quite poor too, relying on stuff such as EPM or whatever isn’t a great idea. TS% is great, it’s way better than just looking at a box score, but you have to know what average is especially for a small guard vs a C etc. But I see ppl making fun of players or saying their trash bc their FG% is like low 40s or whatever. In reality if you’re a C who takes almost all of their shots at the rim, of course your FG% is gonna be high. And if you’re a 3P specialist (or just someone who takes a large amount of 3s) your FG% is prolly gonna be low. But if you take 15 shots a game and 9 are 3s, and you shoot 38%, then 2-3 are midrange jumpers where you’re quite good like 45%, your FG% might be really low. Even if the rest of your shots are at the rim and you’re a good finisher for a guard. But maybe you average 7 FTA and shoot 85%. Like I saw a lot of ppl sht on FVV for his FG%. He’s always around 40% FG. And he’s not super efficient, he’s a bit below average TS%, but you’d think he was the least efficient player ever. In 21-22 he was 55.2% TS. 40.3% FG. But he was 37.7% 3P on 9.9att, 87.4% FT on 3.4att, his 2PA were assted 22.5% of the time, 3PA assted 59.5%. So he is creating the majority of his shots…and he always has a super high asst to TOV ratio. Usually 3:1. Also gets nearly 2stls a game. There’s a reason he was an All-Star in 21-22. There are better examples, FVV isn’t super efficient, but his shot diet is insanely tough and he takes a ton of 3s. I also just happened to think of him bc he got so much hate for the 2y max deal. Ppl online legit talk about him like he’s Dillon Brooks on offense or something lol. But ya basically any advanced stat just needs a lot of context. I like on/off data, if your team is infinitely better with you on the court that likely means something. But even that is cloudy, it can depend so much on who you’re playing with and against (vs bench players? With starters or an elite superstar? Small sample sizes can lead to 3P shooting luck playing a large part, etc) and plenty of other factors. Sorry for the tangent. Just wanted to rant about advanced stats for a minute, even as a huge nerd ppl treating EPM or some other catch all stat like it’s gospel annoys me. They’re all just tools. You have to know how to use them, along with watching basketball, and parsing through the obvious flaws of them. Bc they are all flawed. You can cherry pick advanced stats to make an argument for whoever you want pretty much, as long as they’re even kinda close. Again sorry for the random tangent. Have a good one.

@@BOnYTB this is the kind of energy I need in RU-vid comments sections. Have a fantastic day

@@leonbrumett6155 😂 🙏

As a DET fan we are already down bad enough, only won one ring back then despite making like 6 CF in a row or whatever and losing in 7 to SAS in the Finals bc of Robert Horry and some other dumb stuff. If they drafted Bosh or Melo or Wade or even someone just solid instead of Darko, there’s at least another ring. If you took Ben they don’t win a damn thing, that’d be sad. So I’m sorry you can’t even have this hypothetical 😂 go hypothetically steal someone else’s guy. You guys got CHI to gift you so much for Vucevic. Literally DET got like John Henson, Brandon knight, some other scrub, and a couple second rounders for Blake/Reggie/Drummond etc. Can’t really start a rebuild with less assets without trading all of your picks like BKN. I mean seriously 2 2nds for their best players. Blake even had an unreal season in DET after that horrific trade for him, but somehow they decided it was a good idea to let him play on one leg vs the Bucks when they had a 0% chance. Obv got swept, who would’ve guessed? SVG is a good HC but why did they let him have GM privileges also?Sad. Blake had a legit T10 season then he was cooked. I’m a UoM fan too and I’m jealous you guys got Franz he’s awesome. I’m joking but I’m really just bored/can’t sleep. I’m assuming you’re an ORL fan. If so I wish you the best of luck, fun team.

And even Mutombo, being 7' 2" with long arms and great positioning, was just too skinny to do anything but flop

@@crashlight54 Mutumbo didn't flop Shaq just bodied him.

@@markgonzalez4199 He flopped a little. Not as much as Shaq says he did, but there was some floppage

@@crashlight54 Maybe, I don't remember it that way. Shaq just seemed to big and strong for him to me.

Duncan by far

@@boubacardiallo5945 seriously? I didn’t watch 2003 Duncan (too young), how much of a carry job was it? It seems like Spurs had a competent roster (+ far better manager) so this is surprising to me

Yeah, it's a funny story to think the plane cost the Magic a dynasty, but when you hear Duncan credited Pop to flying out to the Bahamas and bonding with him before he played a single NBA game, I don't know how serious Duncan actually was about leaving.