The Xerox Thieves: Steve Jobs & Bill Gates 

There are RU-vid videos showing that Apple Lisa was not a copy paste product of Xerox , but a massive and evolionary leap . Steve Jobs saw xerox product and told his team to make the new OS and tools . He called upon Bill gates for Word processor . On the other hand Microsoft was a copy paste product of Mac OS .

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That could've been the downfall of apple had steve not come back.

Yeah

yep, it's also true at the Country scale 🙄

It's so true.

COMPLACENT mamagement always kills any company.

Interesting. On one hand while it might've been interesting to see Xerox do well, if they did use it properly, they could have monopolized the market and we wouldn't have seen computers as diverse and widespread as it is today

Exactly they were too blind to what they had, they could not see the potential of their products: 1. GUI made computing faster, easier and more reliable by at least a factor of 100x 2. Networking made it easier and faster to share information! 3. Need I even mention OOP the grandfather of modern programing languages like C++ & Python? They essentially created the modern internet nearly 2 decades earlier than the US Military imagine what the world would be like today? It boggles the mind!

@@DarthAwar and it was ruined because people are blinded by profit

@@DarthAwar no, Al Gore invented the internet! Climate changevis real and will make Gore billions once we take responsibility!

Jobs never wrote a biography

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It's happening to Microsoft now lol

It's happening to Microsoft now lol

@@williamhendrix2053 Microsoft irrelevant now? You're crazy. Since Ballmer left, this is a different Microsoft

@@MagnusAnand 1. or how to sell the idea (marketing)

I worked for Xerox in Dublin, Ireland for over six years. I enjoyed my time there but again there was a lot of potential innovation that was stifled. I worked in tech support and a five part training programme had been designed that would have made their support people industry leaders and a lot of us were looking forward to the training. In the end, the training costs were deemed too high and the programme was axed. It would have been a case of spend the money now and reap much bigger rewards later on but it was scrapped anyway. In relation to the GUI, I remember talking with some people from the IT department where I now work in local government. They were complaining that computers are too simple nowadays and reckoned typing in commands to do even the simplest thing should never have been done away with as it would mean that only people properly au fait with computing would use them. Basically, it was tech snobbery on display. I asked them to imagine two computers were offered for sale and both could do exactly the same things. However, one would only do them by commands being typed in while the other machine used icons that a user could point a mouse at and click once to achieve the same thing. I asked them which one did they think would sell more - the lack of response said everything.

I was born in 1975, so I grew up around the tech explosion of computers in the 80's and 90's. What many people don't understand is that, prior to the GUI, computers were only used by techies at special careers where complex computer calculations were required. And using a computer was a matter of writing a code at a prompt. Something only a techie could do, with formal computer training or, at least, a 'nerdy' tech interest to be self-taught. The GUI meant that ANYONE could use a computer. You didn't need to know codes to type in to serve specific functions. Jobs and Gates realized the potential for computers to be everywhere in every day lives of people...whether in business or personal. Whether for business or personal...computers simply needed a GUI in order for ordinary people to use them without specialized training and experience!

I know, I was like, what just happened?

I think you are new here, this happens everytime 😂

TIME TRAVEL, DUDE!

I didn't realize how true this statement was until I experienced it myself.

@@avinier325 😂😂😂

They were. Bill Gates employed them, so they got in early at Microsoft and are probably some of the world's wealthiest now.

You Mean PARC?

They're already honored everytime you use your new Mac OS or Windows.

Yeah

False

Oh they risk these days, but on your retirements. Hell they gamble with your money all day long.

If I hear a name with "gold" in it, all questions are answered, before I can ask them.

It didn't have a lead programmer like Bill Gates or a visionary like Steve Jobs. It was inevitable these two alphas took a huge chunk of the Alto meat and got their companies million dollar fortunes.

Just like Blockbuster, Sears, Kmart. Run by a bunch of idiots. Netflix's came knocking at Blockbusters door to be joint partners and was laughed away. All these companies having the means and funds for new Innovation and just dont use it. That's what makes companies like Amazon so successful because they dont just stuff the money under the mattress.

Wilson in Xerox case you have the wrong bigotry. Ursala Burns is incompetent black woman and Ann Mulchey was an incompetent white woman. All CEO and upper management regardless of identity were overpaid and incompetent

Stop telling me the obvious 'WIMP' (see what I did there?)

Maybe that was the inspiration for the name Windows

@@Coryiodine no it was going to be interface manager but the marketing department said to name it windows

Liar!

Nike - just do it

he was right

No he didn't. You made that up.

He used to say that but in fact He was excellent in Copy/Paste of others work ! 😀🤣

First I doubt the authenticity of that quote, since Einstein put a lot time into his theories. Second, you miss the whole point. Lots of time went into Xerox's team's idea of a GUI, including Psychology, and this idea required thousands of combined hours of "hard work and perspiration" to become workable enough to appeal to the public.

TierZoo it's pretty cool to see you here. I love your channel and this one

It's good to be back! :3

glad you're back :)

Glad to see him back, he fits this channel perfectly! So casual, you know?

I binge listen to both your channels lol

It's like when you buy some old comic books for a few bucks at a flea market and they turn out to be rare first editions worth thousands. That doesn't mean you are a thieve.

You have to wonder why they'd shelve such data! Years ago I was reading up on specifically the MICROCHIP... after 250 pages of reading, I stopped... the 10's of thousands of different process'/manufacturing etc. to produce a single Microchip was mind-boggling... made me wonder... who conceptualized all theses process' coming together in fruition.... apparently it's a toss up between 4 different sets of people.... hhhhhmmmm.... I think, something else is going on, and isn't being discussed... Like, why would XEROX shelve such information, waiting for the new young breed to come in and take it from there.... hhhmmmmm.... doesn't add up MIKE! Something else seems to be going on COVERT, that isn't discussed in the Media, or at the scholastic either... What do you think Mike? Have you done any research? Does it make sense to you? You're taught in school you evolved from Apes with an accidental chromosome fusion at 2/3... and the people were going around in horse and carriages not to long ago... Then, magically someone(s) figured out how to put together 10, 000's of manufacturing process' to produce a MICROCHIP? Just the MICROCHIP, Mike. There's not ONE source for the MICROCHIP.... don't you find that ODD? Just a bunch of people(s) claiming they were the first.... Wernher Von Braun was asked why the Germans were so advanced technology-wise... and he stated, "WE WERE HELPED"! Or, so claimed! I've got a degree from University, and am older... and no longer believe much of what I was taught in school... The evidence empericially, and through life experience has taught me something else is going on MIKE (and like a game-show isn't being discussed)! Sad Truth is Mike, everybody in the game LIES till they DIE, or disappear (must be a hanging going on - eh)! ARE YOU A FAKE AS WELL?

My reasoning is that the problem with the PATENT process with the MICROCHIP is that none of them were the creators of it... hence, none of them get to claim it! Do you understand.... It's like Conor McGregor's/UFC's M-- A-&SON -- i -c game(s)!

Did he? I didn't see the him paying Xerox part

@@HUNKragor the share

Cooper Miller Good.

GameworldCEO Same

and the greatest of all go full chinese !

@@dvsh4756 hahahaha😂😂😂😂

Same with comedians

Yep..Wonder which all paintings of Picasso are real and what all techniques are his own, for him to say that

Deepa Singhal then there are greater artists than the great that steal from them 😒😒

And killed an Olympic Wrestler.

Mateus Escobar dupont did not invented it ...nazi german did... Like the apollo moon landing and rokets... Wake up people We live on Nazi and military tech...

Mateus Escobar You left out all the poisons they “invented” and all the lives said poisons have destroyed. You dolt!

@@nebaicita It's not Nazi-Technology. It's Deutsche Technologie. A Technology which was invented under Labour-Party Government in the UK is not Labour-Technology but British Technology. Also we don't say Labour Britain did invent a technology but Britain did. Same goes for Deutschland.

nebaicita after wwii, the US took most of the German scientists.

My thoughts exactly! It was a great film about the Apple/Microsoft rivalry.

Bill paid (though not all that much) for the DOS code to run Windows. They were not stealing.

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I'm tryna subscribe to the GrandlineReview, which will result in me having regular One Piece content uploaded straight to my RU-vid feed.

@@enamseptember1417 Do it! I believe in you!

The people have spoken ;)

Business Casual Im so glad that you are doing the voiceover again! I wasnt sure if i was going to be subscribed with the other voice-over! Thank you!!!

Thanks for returning!

Voidtex its Crypto.

who is crypto?

fingerdog Crappy analogy...stealing an idea is kinda different from stealing a physical object, especially since Jobs compensated Xerox

FingerDawg it says right in the video that apple compensated xerox

It's more like, you buy some antique chair from someone who don't know it's true value for 10 bucks, and then auction it for a million.

I see your point. But....If you bought a Picasso at a garage sale from an ignoramus, would you share the profit when you found it was a Picasso?

Oh, I didn't know he compensated Xerox.

Interesting! Care to expand on #3?

RobustFilms1 this is some magic shit! How the hell did he make it?

He learnt on Skillshare, the first 500 people to use my code get a free month!

The fact that he animated it in 60fps also helps make it look more smooth.

After Effects

u high? me 2

It's a trap

omg

with the original voice-over coming back, so did the easter egg

Just about to comment this~

doublen987 how?!?!?!wtf?!?!?!?!

It's quite an accurate film as these things go - most of the stories were compiled at the time or shortly after and don't suffer from 'interviewing the winners and telling their side of the story' that modern works often do.

Innovation rather

Gee, too bad his keyset never caught on. Somebody ought to put it into production. I wonder who might be able to do that?

@@RussellNelson Yes, I hope someone eventually puts it in production.

ashVGF *segue

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I cringed when he said gooey. It’s Gee U (you) I (eye). Just the letters pronounced.

LOL!

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He had 2 chances and blew them both, the first is obvious when he purposely ignored IBM. The second was to sell CP/M after the lawsuit to match the price of MS-DOS, instead he wanted $200 extra dollars per customer. Yes it was the superior product, but not a $200 premium.

andreasl33 it's not 3D. You cut the subjects (some transparency/eraser tool), you clone image parts to fill the places where the subjects were (and he even blurred so he didn't even had to do a great cloning) and then you overlay both images and shrink one faster than the other. Or just move with different speeds. I know I'm making it look easy and it actually takes some time and there are other techniques to make it even faster (he could have just used a fake background... You don't know the original photo so you don't know what was actually behind, so why bother with all the cloning etc etc?) and I wouldn't be surprised that there was already some automatic tool to make this kind of "3D animation" but this is really all that is: just cut and make 2 layers move in different speeds. Videogames do it for decades. It's called parallax effect ;)

Apple and Microsoft also stole the GUI from Star.

@@johnthane7837 By the way Apple and Microsoft is able developing and makes good progresive.

The mouse itself predates Xerox PARC. Apple wanted to pay for a license to use the technology but as they didn't own the legal rights to the mouse, they sent him to SRI. According to Douglas Engelbart (the inventor of the mouse) Apple was the only company who ever paid for it.l

What do you mean we don't know? It was developed in Xerox's R&D center named PARC!

Bill and Steve never gave anyone anything. They're takers.

Says Mohammad.

@@onetwomany9634 Ok kevin

@@1pcfred Wrong

Thank Parc and his employees.

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