How Microsoft Saved Apple (And Why They Did It) 

Is this quote from The Art of War?

Yeah

Well not really, his enemy is worth 2 trillion today, it was better if he got it from his friends

TheShy Apple could be worth 10 trillion dollars, except for Surface and iPad they aren’t competing that much against each other. Windows has 77% market share against Apples 17%. Apple is more a designer label than a tech company.

@@roadrunner6224 a designer label worth trillions

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Hahahahhaa 😂

It won't happen, his brain works crazy 24/7

Only RU-vidr who could buy RU-vid.

Forest F facts

Segway of the century

except bank password :v

😂

Yep, bc apple phones save ur passwords

A Girl so do androids

Hilarious

ikr lol

Lol

What are non voting shares?

@@aryansaxena4978 When you sell shares in your company, you no longer own it, the share holders do and they get a say in who's on the board of directors, and the board acts on behalf of the share holders. The more shares someone has, the more votes they get. So non voting shares means they don't have any say in who's on the board, so therefore no way of influencing how the company is run.

really

Netscape for life!

most accurate typo i ever made - internet exploder (1999)

Even back then people knew it was a terrible browser

Also funny to hear the same crowd cheer over the MS Office announcement

Nowadays Internet explorer is ded, replaced by Microsoft edge

@@Baer9471 and Microsoft office is the only product why 30% users are still sticking to it

@@eobardthawne6903 I think (almost) everybody in this world uses Microsoft office breh

@@Baer9471 not as the only thing to use windows, Linux has got almost everything except this

@@eobardthawne6903 Linux dude is not even comparable to windows in terms of consumers market share. Also Office is super big and is not only on windows, but also apples and phones too. Office is still super big.

This is true even until today context

recycle of life

Except back then, apple actually delivered on performance with the price of their computers.

@@HelenFire420, *m1 exists*

Apple computer is still too expensive

I've seen that interview

Where is it

They said in a interview that they were good friends not business rivals. They were only competitor

Link?

@@rachitmittal448 Well, they were not friends definitely but business partners from time to time out of necessity. During public interviews everyone suddenly becomes "good friends". Bill Gates even cheated on Steve Jobs by secretly back engineering Macintosh'es OS GUI during 1983-1985. The result was windows 1.0. Steve was madly furious. Bill Gates was no friend of Steve Job, his true personal friends were Larry Ellison, Johnny Ive etc. Steve once said about Bill Gates: ""He'd be a broader guy if he had dropped acid once or gone off to an ashram when he was younger".

Yes bunch of hypocrite babies. They don't like what they don't like, and they like what they like.

In the context of the video, I think he meant that it could be uninstalled and Netscape could be used in its place.

They said "booo" because of Internet Explorer. Not necessarily the partnership itself. Did you even watch the video?

They had a choice.

Bill made a calculated a gamble after Clarke turned down a place on Netscapes board for the son of Satan (Bill Gates in Clarkes words) when turned down started buying removing netscape easr and compatability from computer manufacturers by strong arm or cash and invested in the google start up

liberals..

Idiot

Songmi Lee I didn't know computer brands is a political thing too. Considering the PC has 80% to 90% market share and no political party comes anywhere near that, kind of hard to say that there is any connection between computer brand loyalty and political ideology. Your comment is just plain stupid.

Songmi Lee what does that even have to do with liberala?

Songmi, you are clueless. Plenty of people from different political viewpoints like Apple. Rush Limbaugh has been a long time Apple user. He's definitely not a liberal.

MS also and they still owns the shares of Apple.

its called populism. before 2007 they didnt had quality, but had funboys.

Because of bill gates

Sometimes it takes time to be successful. You may fail today, fret not, just pick yourself up and continue working hard. Don’t give up.

Now 2 trillion dollars

indeed

yes, but it's like a choice you make...you can kill a spider or just take it in your hand and release it outside

Avoid Sherman's hammer.

Patchuchan I love your patchouli picture !

You really hate Microsoft right ?

HAHA. Same happened to me.

same

same

But did you install Dashlane? :)

same here.

Looks like I am not the only one who noticed it lol. Felix argyle

@@rusbunnin3992 :0

Or he can stand up and do a spinning kick like Chuck Norris and make teeth fly to the stars lol lol.

Actually, that would go to Xerox for abandoning the icon and mouse so microsoft could steal the idea.

Idea is not enough. Idea is the easy part.

Maybe I didn't make myself clear. The GUI screen/icons that replaced the dos screen and mouse were already developed by Xerox. They didn't see a need to copyright it for a copier company and never pursued it. Apple was the first to copy it followed by microsoft. This is all old public knowledge.

@@hotbari but Microsoft brought it to the market successfully

Finally, someone. Thank you!

5 months late, but P R E A C H

Actually no. Bill Gates of 90s really was a competition crusher.

apple make software for owm hardware ? really which hardware crapple made ? intel cpu ? hahahhahah

@@anirudhchinta8685 Well you are correct

No one cares

Szymon Pludowski Felix from Re0

That’s his anime gf

Felix sama

Video maker tryna be cool. There's nothing to it

what he did there?

Cat face photoshop. Lol

Indeed

for what reason?

My boy felix

BloodRider 14 Yeah and ibm would still be around selling OS/2

He DID NOT save Apple. This was settlement for an infringement lawsuit. A mere $150 million would not have solved Apple's problems. Gil Amelio and Steve Jobs saved Apple...and the fact that in the 90s Windows computers couldn't do much more than spreadsheets. If you wanted to use Photoshop or advanced programs...you needed an Apple. Windows 95 = Apple Mac 85

Jd Jd and now Adobe photoshop and the whole suite runs better on Windows now, funny how times have changed

Jd Jd I learn how to use photoshop on win 3.1. Granted when I use photoshop 7 apple has the best hardware for photo-editing

Well Steve could have gotten the 150million from other investors

Microsoft owns 49% of Apple, so that they don't have controlling interest, to avoid anti-trust liability.

Snarky Mark that’s crazy. 😮

@@btw-3006 i think that is was meant as a joke

@@btw-3006 The biigest owners of apple shares are the 9 invenstment firms/founds and Berkshire Hathaway, Inc wich technaly you could also call an invenstment firm

If they owned more than 50%, they would run the company as they have a majority of the shares, that is why they have 49% so to not be seen as taking over Apple which would be worse for Microsoft as it would make them look more like a monopoly than they already have been.

I wanna slip right into you 😂

@@lukealadeen7836 Not her fault you're single 😂😂

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you should then see the one he did on jeff bezos, the best i have ever seen

No. People with a clue would still be using Android.

Nokia, Microsoft would have been an alternative, but now Android is just as capable if not more capable than Apple IOS.

Android*

Or smartphone would not exist.

@@TonyRule - Nah, Windows Phone is better

Not so much forgot, but rather didn't want to do the full math :P But yeah you're right with dividends that number gets at least 15% higher, even without reinvestment. Apple stopped paying dividends in 1995 and resumed them in 2012. So had Gates kept his shares he would've reaped 7 years worth of dividends by now.

Business Casual don’t worry I did the math for you lol

Lmao someone has too much time in their hands.

Jakob P --Thanks for doing the math. By the way in the original agreement MS had to divest their shares in 5 years. Also I know Business Casual is telling a story, but telling it like Apple was saved by MS is BS. Apple’s management led by Steve saved the company. Steve simplified the product line and started making great products again. Losses disappeared and revenues grew and Apple became the most valuable company on earth by following these simple precepts. At best the MS investment may have been a psychological boost at a dark time in Apple’s history. By the way you didn’t clarify that The Mac platform was where Office got its start. Apple had Excel (starting in 1986) and other parts of Office long before Windows even existed.

Keep in mind if someone sold that much Apple stock at the time of this video the value of Apple's stock would likely drop.

because the dude is a weeb and wants to let us viewers know

@@gurungmadan Business Casual-chan

so you noticed too

Yes why is it soo

Its Felix from Re: Zero (its damn good one)

@@muqxxt LOL, you don’t know your history. Microsoft was sued by the Justice Department for anti-trust activities. Microsoft needed a healthy Apple so that it could prove there was at least some competition at the time.

@@opensourceguy730 Actually Microsoft was just leveraging their advantage, government always want to sue private individuals

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Business English

lol he's a master

It's a casual way of doing business

True. I repeated those transitions couple of times. Very well done video.

The ending caught me off guard and had me laughing. Good one BC.

Abort, retry, delete.

Steve Jobs was a great businessman and salesman. But innovator...not really. His design decisions were pretty terrible from the beginning.

Tell us what you think Gates innovated, and I will show you why he did nothing of the sort. Everything he and MS did was behind the curve; in a way that was MS's strength - they learned from others. Here is what Jobs had to say :- "Bill is basically unimaginative and has never invented anything, which is why I think he's more comfortable now in philanthropy than technology"

Where did I say I admired Jobs? He was an arrogant and bad-tempered prick, like Gates, and I loathe them, and their companies, and everything they stand for. They both copied or bought their main ideas from others. Jobs was right with that quote though, and was the more intelligent man, and I cannot see what is immature about it. Gates was very immature until he got old - an obnoxious little shit (Google "Bill Gates Tantrums") who said about Job's "Next" computer "Develop for it? - I'll piss on it!". The idea we'd be using Macs today if it were not for Gates is BS. There was a thriving non-Microsoft non-Apple personal computer industry in the late 70's and early 80's until it was throttled by the IBM-Microsoft partnership. Gates only let Apple survive because he did not want to be accused of monopoly - he got away with it too.

@Anish Krishna Unfortunately not. These are mostly examples of existing technology which was nicely packaged and then marketed to consumers as if they invented them. Brilliant marketing, but not much innovation. I would say if you look at the iPhone, there might be some innovation there. But that's the exception and not the rule. Even though Apple didn't invent the smartphone, they were innovative in creating the large touchscreen form-factor which is so common today. They moved us away from the Blackberry-like physical keyboard devices which were everywhere in 2006. But I think that's where the innovation ends. Let's start with the Mac. Apple stole the idea for its user interface from Xerox. Besides that, the actual hardware design on the original Mac 128K wasn't innovative. It was very similar to other PC's released at that time. To make matters worse, its hardware was very unreliable. It overheated because Steve Jobs had the "brilliant" idea of refusing to include a fan for cooling. Most of these systems failed because of overheating which damaged different components, such as the main memory. People had to install a third-party cooling fan. The irony is that If you look at the history of the iPod, you will see that Apple didn't invent portable MP3 players. In fact, they didn't even invent the design for the iPod. This design was actually patented by Kane Kramer in 1979.

Yep! Most people don't know that Apple and Microsoft always worked on projects together. In Apple main building, they had a Microsoft team working on integrated projects. You can see Bill Gates and Steve Jobs talking about this in an interview here on youtube.

detailsmove with dividends its 100 billion. At ~20% tax too

Beastinlosers good lord, I wonder if Bill pondered over these stocks over the years as he watched Apple's astronomical growth

detailsmove Well hes given away like 50+ billion. I'm sure hes rich enough for it not to bother him too much lmao

he's networth will be almost twice of the amazon guy if that happens...

Beastinlosers lmao true that

No it doesn't, it's booed because simply it's Microsoft

The apple fan boys are booing it

Well it was obviously the best at the time

And now it’s being shut down.

Do a more research than just headlines...

Jd Jd Which research ? He's an illuminati and eating babies alive ? zzz

The "philanthropy" was in the way trusts and tax deferrals.

Did you know Steve actually contributed to charities but did it in secret? Might not be as great as what bill did. But steve never sought for charity attention

Ive seen a recent report on this. While billionaires giving away money to charity publicly seems shady and an attempt of virtue signaling. It actually encourages or rather set6s a standard for billionaires. Hes teaching others like him to do what he is doing. If the person brags about giving to charity hes an ass but Bill is setting an example.

lol

Steve, all cars have steering wheels, but no one tries to claim that the steering wheel was their invention.

Why would you need windows on a self driving car

What an enigma

Nah you seen what windows did to Nokia and would you drive a car powered by windows 10??? Nah thanks it probably blue screen on you whilst doing 70 mph on a motorway

alexdiezg then Microsoft would be likely broken up and it wouldn't be the same either

we would probably be still using stylus imate windows phones and very slowly realizing what we could achieve with the technology. competition is always a good thing. so don't feel bad about it :)

My guess about what would it be, Microsoft split, Apple very likely bankrupt as Commodore before them, Ballmer still as CEO of one MS half, crappy smartphones running Windows CE and Blackberries, Android very likely would be more like old BlackBerry than the modern OS that is today, Windows Vista could being a success since we were unable to compare it with a really polished UNIX OS, perhaps Microsoft would be able to kill Google since they kept almost all the points of connection to the internet with Windows + Windows Mobile, thank god we have a healthy competition for our wallets

You wouldn’t have smartphones, mp3s, or tablets. Wether you like Apple or not they pioneered the smartphone, table, and MP3 players of the early 2000s.

MP3 players and smart phones existed before the ipod and iphone there just would be different players and Windows CE would be one of them.

Muhammad syihan Zhafiri Steve Jobs’s turning in his grave right now

back then but not really today. else apple would be worth 1T

@@charlesfernandez8225 this tbh

Apple was always a niche market. MS-Dos machines outsold Macs, and Android outsells iPhones. It is an expensive niche, but a niche. They are a one trick pony.

Gates in his own rights was a genius

Steve Jobs was definitely easier to connect to while Bill Gates badassery was overshadowed by his lanky looks and awkwardness.

timmy D He was such a nerd who revolutionized Personal computers people don't like the nerd they like the "cool guy" Gates and Jobs or Zuck and Musk

He's the most charitable person of all time...

Boshua Borman those " charity " donations were just to avoid paying taxes.

Apple invented a lot of things. The most obvious one perhaps is the graphical user interface as we know it today. Then of course the copy and paste commands, as well as undo. There's a plethora of other stuff on top of that, which of course you would know if you knew how to Google before making outrageous claims.

Citation needed.

Are you still looking for the citation?

Paradoxical Nightmare saw the video this morning and wanted to know what your sources were.

@Paradoxical Nightmare No response, haha

will never forgot how Ms overpowered lotus 123 and that word processor I now forget name. Word even had some short cut keys that give a blue word processor screen like the competition!

@@lolguy-x9n MultiMate ?

@@oratiog9036 word perfect. Was everything circa 1992

Dev1lm4n XD 👍

Omg lol

Why didn't I notice that

I was looking for this comment .lol

Lol i realised it at the last moment Hahahaha

Its Felix from Re: Zero

It's not boss the owner the board of directors decide to give positions of ceo

I hope you misunderstood this video cause if you really think that then i don't know what to tell you bud.

@@dr0wsy327 r/wooosh

korpakukac: You’re too funny 🤣🤣 (I’m watching this on my iPad, btw.) 🍎 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑

They make some of the best hardware around, from phones to computers, not to mention their software is way more stable and better written than Windows or Android Anyone who thinks different are delusional or haven’t owned any Apple device Are Apple products overpriced? Yes maybe, a little

@@sccanj A "little" is an understatement when you consider their price gouge on ram

@@sccanj technically apple does not have better hardware, but because they control absolutely every aspect of their products, they have the best optimization

I couldn't agree more M8.

Well I mean like WCW was entirely bought by WWE so its not the same scenarion but similar yep.

Thing is its a free to download os

TheCrazyInsanity Inc. Apple always had free downloads of their OS. During the time this video was talking about they dropped the free OS upgrade is because they were trying to copy Windows. This made them lose all their competitive edge and annoyed long time customers so it was a disaster.

its a trap

Skythz right

*_Felix_*

referral madness IBM PC from the beginning was more open than Apple computers. Apple even today prefers to create its own ecosystem which isn't compatible with many other third party electronics. IBM before 80s used to create its computers with proprietary components that were made by IBM. So IBM had total control of the reliability and performance. The elevated cost wasn't very important because its customers were big businesses. However IBM PC was intended to ordinary home users and small businesses. So nearly anything was bought by external sources like hard disks, floppy disk drives, monitors, the DOS from Microsoft, etc in order to low the production cost. That made they effort to clone the IBM PC easier and cheaper. Only the BIOS was really made by IBM. But also this with reverse engineering was copied by Compaq. IBM sued Compaq but Compaq wasn't convicted because he made something similar but not the same. With Apple things were difficult for cloning its computers. Apple was creating its own floppy disk drives, monitors, keyboards, data ports, and above all its own complex operating system which couldn't be easily copied or imitated like the much simpler BIOS. Also Microsoft was very friendly with IBM clones. Microsoft could honor the choice and trust of a huge computer company like IBM. Contrary to that Microsoft back stabbed IBM by selling its operating system DOS and later windows to manufacturers of IBM Clone Computers. Microsoft eventually became richer than IBM.

Achilleas Labrou wrote :- "Microsoft DOS and windows was trying to be compatible with every PC compatible computer". That's not how it works. It's the opposite - every PC and other hardware maker (except Apple of course) tried to make their computer compatible with DOS/Windows - they would not have sold any otherwise. With a monopoly, MS could lean back and let the hardware makers do the grunt work of compatibility.

Duke Nukem What you mentioned is true too. That problem continues today. Improper drivers or BIOS is a huge problem. That's one of the reasons I prefer Apple computers. The operating system and hardware work seamlessly. With the exception of the recent Microsoft laptop hundreds or even thousands manufacturers try to be compatible to an operating system and the reverse. It is unavoidably chaotic. Of course prestigious manufacturers of computers are more efficient. But Apple has the advantage.

And dongles, their main revenue avenue..

IBM doesn't give a damn about what the rabble is buying, they make stuff for rockets/nasa and planes, they don't target consumer manufacturer. Yeah in the early days of hardware they were in the game but they developed into other technology areas.

Your comment is the definition of cringe

Well he is a formidable knight and healer of the kingdom after all.

marc bell z

that should be put on his tombstone

Lol