@@PoundShopScooterMan Tory Private Polling recently shows they could lose over 200 mp's plus Labour's Private Polling is NOT showing a 20% voting lead!!!!!
I do find it deeply unsettling that Steve Coogan's coming portrait of Savile in The Reckoning will be broadcast on the BBC when they were complicit in normalising his behaviour.
My late mother was a nurse in the Deva hospital Chester. Savile came there and she was instructed along with another nurse not to let Savile out of their sight for one second this was in 1974. She thought something was strange then.
I have three older sisters who were in their teens when I was born. We used to get some 'Top of the Pops' here in Australia on TV. They asked dad whether they could go on TOTP to see Jimmy Savile, who was extremely popular there. Dad was alarmed and said no way, there were rumours about that he liked young girls and boys....sexually. This was about 1972. Dad was right.
After living in Leeds for a year in 98 I got to know a guy that had grown up in Roundhay not far from Jimmys flat. He would tell me back then that you could see Savile drinking tea on a pavement table of a tea shop every school day afternoon opposite a school at finishing time. Without prompting, other people told similar stories. I was drinking in a Leeds city centre pub on the day of the funeral and many of the old boys in there including the landlord were quite vocal about how he was a wrong un. What weirds me out is my Dad is a freemason in Manchester and when I said this to him. His reply was why didn't they say anything and its always gone on. My Dad noticeably changed when he became a mason. I was shocked that my dad didn't say the usual response he was monster . He appeared to be excusing him and had a very casual approach to the matter. I know it's not fair of me to speculate but it looked like my dad knew more about what these characters are about or get up too. I cant help thinking that my dad in his quest to better himself has been groomed into thinking that this behaviour is how the wealthy and powerful behave . I personally don't understand why contemporary people in his position were not immediately investigated.
@@Oooo-bi7bi it was acceptable in those days to sexually assault kids and young women. If we said anything we were told to shut up and we knew it would be us victims who would be in trouble. It wasn't until recently all this has come out. It wasn't just Saville but country wide. I'm from Staffordshire. I was a teenager in the early 80s and most men in powerful positions were at it. We had a teacher, a yts co ordinater, a man who ran a shop I worked at all did it and got away with it because we didn't dare to speak out.
@@memememe-cq7yb I’m 49 so was aware of this culture. The little east Lancashire town I grew up in. The actor who played Len Fairclough in coronation street used to go to the Saturday swim day. My mum still has the signed photo he gave us. It turned out he was abusing kids there. I get what you’re saying and I am personally shocked and confused by my dad’s reaction and words he chose. It’s screwed up and I hope things are going to change. According to my middle class girlfriend I met at uni. I was physically abused in my upbringing. I had to explain to her that I know it’s not considered right. But at the end of the day if someone attacks me I know how to fight back.
They arent cancelling her but try to cancel people who speak out about child mutilation (tranny psycho reality shift creep nonce stuff) people like graham L (guy who wrote I.T crowd and father ted) or the guy from gimme gimme gimme , jordan peterson (sent for social media sensitivity training) and the list goes on.
I think Savile was one of the worst kind of monsters out there. Serial killers usually kill a type, whereas Savile would abuse anyone he could whether alive or dead. The worst type of psychopathic mind, children, old ladies and even corpses. How he became so vile is beyond imagination. I call him Jimmy So Vile..
@@Lennonlover06 He was very likely a scapegoat of Evile. It is thought by some experts that the odious recording of "the ripper" sent in to the police were actually Evil's voice attempting a slightly different dialect. Also, the cassettes used were not readily available, except to DJs.
Rubbish. The man responsible for the tapes was found and convicted. Stop peddling lies and rubbish, too many people on here are gullible enough to believe it. @@NarcHark888
The Jimmy Savile nightmare is so disgusting and disturbing. How does a man with no medical training, or experience working with psychiatric patients end up running hospitals? How is this even legal?
Alleged connections in high places. Margaret Thatcher, the present King and many more. Wasn't Savile also alleged to have given marriage guidance advice to Charles and Diana?
I must admit that whenever Savile came on any TV screen, I walked out of the room. I thought he was incredibly weird and creepy. His clothes, hair, jewellery all made me shudder…….I often said to my mum, when I asked for her to change the channel, that if someone told me he’d eaten a baby I’d believe them! My feelings were very strong…….I never met him of course but as Savile got older, he became even more repugnant to me. My heart breaks thinking of all the women and children that were damaged by him.
It's one of my early memories of my mum and dad sitting on the sofa watching Saville on top of the pops. My mum said to my dad there's something really creepy about that bloke.
@@bloochoob The worst ones are born royals or those that strive for high political status. Though the royals may be the worst ever. Been this way since civilization was a thing.
I was in my village in Devon walking past a local grocery store and saw his Rolls-Royce parked outside, I knew he stayed at the caravan park and knew it was his car as it had his personal number plate and at first I thought I might see him but all of a sudden this fear washed over me, I gripped my daughters hand tight and hurried away with her, not wanting to see him. This was my Mother's instinct working on all levels.
He visited sidmouth too...his behaviour was overlooked. Plus he was known to jog the devon lanes...I often wonder if he was connected to the Jeanette Tate case. And didn't he also have access to Digby at Exeter...they dont report that..
You don't casually wander around a Nation with total impunity and total silence doing what Savile allegedly did for so long without having a high degree of controlled. aggressive protection. And Savile had the air of someone who knew he had the 'leverage' to be protected. Savile was no loner. He was just a single card in a deck of "Nod, Nod, Wink, Wink, Say no more, say no more."
They could have put him in prison while he was alive but chose not to. Why? because he would have pulled so many people at the top down with him, and he knew that.
Jim'll fix it. What's a fixer? Someone who sorts stuff out for other criminals. Savile's crime of choice was child abuse. His TV show was him telling everyone what he was fixing for his fellow sex criminals. Many will have been in high places all looking after each other because they all need it kept quiet.
My mother was a nurse at the LGI hospital and Savile was well known for his abuse. Nurses were told to be in pairs when he is around and they use to say to the patients pretend to sleep as Savile's about. She and a colleague also saw him in the mortuary a lot without the need or requirement to be there.
I remember a joke a few years after sutcliffe was jailed that said 'the rippers escaped, police are looking for a man with a geordie accent'. This sums up the ineptitude of the police at the time
It had nothing to do with any Geordie, that was put to bed years ago. They convicted that guy from Sunderland (not even a geordie) and he was sentenced and had since died. You're clearly very behind the loop
I think it had a lot more to do with corruption than incompetence. Sutcliffe was clearly on the square and knew the masonic distress code 'will nobody help the widows son'. Those are magic words when you're being arrested. If you don't believe me the next time you're about to get a ticket for traffic offences just put your arms in the air and say is there no help for the widows son and I 100% guarantee the next words you'll hear are, oh it appears we've made a mistake sir, drive safely and have a good night. Try it if you think I'm joking. This was how Sutcliffe, who was first introduced to these ppl when he was a grave digger and was procuring body parts for these ppl. Thats when he will have made his masonic oaths. And that's why he was questioned was it 7, or 9 times (?) During the enquiry and every time was just 'overlooked' and why when a detective took his suspicious about Sutcliffe to Dickhead Holland he was basically dressed down and told not to bother barking up that tree. If they were truly intent on catching this man they would have been glad of any insights they might have overlooked but no, they only wanted to cover it up. No police force is that useless, but many are that corrupt, especially when their true loyalty is not to the law or the ppl, but to their brotherhood.
Yes typical wait until they die and start looking into into - because its safe as he is not alive to name others involved in abuse - utterly disgusting.
My sister used to work at a large hospital in Hampshire back in the 80s, whenever there was an event that Jimmy So-Vile was invited to, all of the younger members of staff were told not to attend and no younger family members either. Jimmy turned up one night and the first thing said was, "Where's all the young ladies then.?" This means that even back then his behaviour was well known.
OMFG - look at the tshirt he's wearing for through the keyhole. 'I am an animal and I'm going to eat you!' WOW! Just wow! He truly was protective evil.
I was walking along a street near my house thinking of the "Ripper" as everyone was then. Being an ex hippie, I suddenly thought what if we asked the universe for a clue as to his identity. Nothing came through. Years later I was driving along the same street and realised it was called Sutcliffe Road. True story and nothing but coincidence.
50 years of allowing that sicko to abuse children...Disgusting!!!! course he was capable of abuse torture and murder and what do you think he was doing in the morgue..He obviously had a fixation on dead bodies hundreds of people kept quiet he must have felt very powerful as he continued to destroy lives
If you didnt know who Jimmy Savile was and someone showed you a picture of him at the same time telling you that youre looking at a serial killer, no one would question that. The ‘13’ victims in the sutcliffe case has always concerned me.
But there are so many looking weirdos now and that sends a signal to me to be wary. Once at university I warned my daughter about a male youth with Red , green , blue hair : tattooed and body pierced. But my daughter , 'oh that's jim , he's lovely. '
In my home area of Bournemouth,Saville had two clubs and lived there too. Amongst local young people who went to those clubs,Saville was universally hated.He used to swan about town on his flashy bicycle and was shouted at and had missiles thrown at him.He might of had friends among corrupt local councillors but everyone else in town hated him. Perhaps they knew something that powerful people were not willing to admit.
If you look like a creep, act like a creep publicly and privately....your a creep. Numerous people said he was creep. Dozens of professionals in tv and private businesses said he was a creep. But everyone was shocked when it came out in the press that he was a creep?
King Charles III best mates with So Vile. The guy was untouchable. I saw him in the flesh as a 10 year old in a marathon he was running. I was waiting for a bus at the time. Only having seen him on TV before I was shocked at how small and skinny he was and the fact he was basically running in pajamas smoking a cigar made me think, this is not how normal adults behave.
It's mindboggling how Savile got away with his hundreds of crimes. Even as a child the man gave me the chills, I couldn't watch anything he was in. And time and time again, I've seen others saying they always knew he was a wrong 'un, even as children. So how did the grown adults surrounding him not smell something funny? I can only conclude that Mr. Savile had extraordinary protection, and that the conspiracy was wider than we know even today.
My father was a policeman, in 1975 he was on a course in Wakefield, the normal rank and file policemen,all doing courses for their sergeants exam knew about Savile..the higher ups prevented any action being taken.
The reason they never got Sutcliffe earlier despite all the evidence against him was the police’s standard practice, almost a mantra, of looking for evidence to ‘ eliminate from the enquiry’. It was a sentence written in stone in police work. Never mind all the evidence that points towards a persons guilt, incriminating evidence, they were looking to eliminate a person. Sonya Sutcliffe gave him an alibi and off they went. Despite all the other evidence against him. I don’t believe Savile did any of the murders but I do believe Sutcliffe murdered many more than 13.
The police went totally astray when they relied on the murderer being a Geordie. Many more lives were put at risk by this man from the North East (I don't remember his nickname) pretending to be the culprit.
@@marilynkennedy8236 ….started off as Wearside Jack….when the hoax was revealed it was the Geordie Hoaxer. You’re right about the repercussions costing further lives. But honestly the police in charge were so incompetent, so unable to accept expert advice that he wasn’t a Geordie, it was always going to be down to a combination of luck and good work from a constable that caught him. He was caught with a prostitute and arrested but not being a Geordie wasn’t considered a Ripper suspect. But because he was caught with a prostitute they wanted the ripper squad to eliminate him. That much was protocol. When the copper who arrested him came back on duty for his next shift 12 hrs later he discovered Sutcliffe was still in custody and the copper wrongly presumed he must be a strong ripper suspect but the truth was the ripper squad were so inundated with work they hadn’t got round to sending a detective over to ‘eliminate’ /interview him. So this copper went back to where they arrested Sutcliffe with the prostitute and searched the area and hey presto, he found the rippers ‘tools’, a hammer and a knife hidden in bushes. He took them back to the station and when Sutcliffe was informed of this the conversation went something like…… ‘ how can you explain we found these near your car’? ‘Ok I know what you’re getting at’ ‘What do you mean, Peter?’ ……‘ it’s me……I’m the ripper’. Then after a few hours a jubilant posse of the incompetent police in charge gave a quite repugnant press conference all puffed up with self congratulations that almost scuppered a trial there and then. A man is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law but they claimed they had pretty much caught the ‘ripper’, they crowed they were ‘ delighted, absolutely delighted’.So much for a fair trial under British Law, even for scum like Sutcliffe. That wasn’t the worst of it, when asked if this ‘suspect’ ( guilty party) had a Geordie accent, Ronald Gregory, Chief Constable of West Yorkshire, the man who presided over the Ripper hunt debacle, contemptuously replied ‘ I don’t know, I haven’t spoken to him’. I just wonder how Doreen, Jacqueline Hill’s mother ( Sutcliffe’s last victim) felt hearing that smug remark. It was cruel to say the least.
@@billbailey7193 Thank you Bill for your marvellous , knowledgeable message about the Ripper. I realised after I posted my message that the nickname was "Wearside Jack". The first policeman to lead the investigation was George Oldfield wasn't he? Because the famous message on the tape was "Hello George, I see you are having no luck catching me". Said somewhat ungrammatically in that strong Geordie accent. Then Ronald Gregory had to finally take over after Oldfield failed spectacularly. I agree it was a total fiasco from start to finish. If it hadn't been for that young policeman finding him unexpectedly, how long would it have taken them to catch the Yorkshire Ripper? There were some things that come to mind immediately, and that is when they checked those serial numbers of the money that was found. It was traced back to Sutcliffe's firm as having been paid out in wages. Another thing was how life-like that Photo-fit picture was, how accurate. How did they miss this when they had already interviewed him more than once. By the way Bill there is a programme on next week all about it. You probably know that, as if there hasn't been enough programmes already. I wonder if we will learn anything new?
@@marilynkennedy8236 …..I’m reading a book at the moment that claims he was responsible for at least another ten murders. I think Sutcliffe, who was getting prosecuted for drinking and driving and going to lose his job, had given up and was going all out until he was caught. Yes those previous clues, all the photo fits that matched him. He actually had a conviction for carrying a hammer /weapon in a red light district a few years before his first canonical victim. After they knew he used a hammer no one cross referenced previous convictions with such a weapon. ….But every bit of evidence pointing directly at him was shelved after that tape. Did you know even John Humble, Wearside Jack, in his alcoholic state, even he realised the damage he’d done sending them down a dead end and he rang in anonymously to say it was all a fake but although the call was recorded it was never followed up on. But they were getting so many hoax calls it’s no wonder. I didn’t know about that programme coming up I’ll keep an eye out for it, cheers
@@billbailey7193 Thank you Bill for your message. The Ripper programmes are on ITV at 9pm on Wednesday and Thursday night next week, the 23rd and 24th Feb. Apparently they have new evidence to suggest that he started his serial killing career earlier than first thought, in 1968. That would have made him only in his early 20s wouldn't it? I didn't know that Wearside Jack expressed any remorse for the damage he did to the enquiry. Like you say it was so bogged down with hoax calls and paperwork, it hindered the investigation tremendously. In these days of computers and DNA it would be a different story. It would be interesting to find out how the case would have gone if it was in 2022. Are you connected with law enforcement at all, you seem to have a lot of knowledge about it?
I was a student at Trinity and All Saints Colleges at the time. Near Leeds Bradford Airport. We were terrified to leave the campus except in groups of 4 or more! Our nightly excursions into Headingley to purchase our fish and chips were always a cohort of at least 6 of us!
If Savile had the keys to Broadmoor, then given his perversions and connections,access to the local mortuary would've been no problem. Guess who worked as a mortuary assistant local to Savile??? As a sidenote, Savile holidayed with Freddie Starr and..wait for it...Frank Bruno. Big mates,like a father to him (Brunos words).
On Bruno's This is Your Life,Frank mentions that his Black&Decker was 'working on holiday' in a private joke to Starr.Regarding my former comment I'm not sure this holiday joke included Savile.@@barrybark3995
11:12 It's interesting that his regular meetings with the West Yorkshire police, at his Friday Morning Breakfast club, was completely omitted in the new BBC drama "The Reckoning". It seems that the BBC want us to believe Jimmy did everything alone, without assistance and we know that is not the case. Victim testimony states that there was another man with him when he abused the boy scout for example, but the BBC drama "The Reckoning" suggests Jimmy was alone. The BBC is still covering up it seems.
The higher ups in media are also in the child abuse game.. Like the royal family, and everyone else with power.. Big business man, political figures. They are all doing it. I hope someday more people wake up, and figure this out.
@@markc2494 Well, it's 100% true that Paraic O'Brien talked about Jimmy Savile's "Friday Morning Breakfast club" with West Yorkshire police on Channel 4 news. And it's 100% true that this wasn't included in the new BBC drama "The Reckoning". You can watch this for yourself. There's video of the boy scout testimony that states Jimmy was with another man when he was abused. But it's all just testimony into cameras. I suspect the real truth is that everyone at the BBC is in a secret society and they're all covering each others backs - like a mafia family.
The truth about Savile will terrify anybody. Just look into Savile's connection with procuring children for politicians and celebrities at Elm Guest House. And his connection to an infamous Jersey Children's home. Then add his close friendship with Ted Heath and Heath's yacht into the equation, trips on the yacht with Heath & Savile for the boys were one-way only, into international waters, brutally SA'd & then murdered, their bodies weighted down & thrown overboard. Lord Mountbatton was killed by British spies imbedded with the PIRA on the orders of MI6, that was to do with silencing him as he told close associates he was being blackmailed by 2 men who he'd abused at an infamous boy's home in Ireland. The boys were 'disappeared'. Savile was also known to associate with Sidney Cooke & Lennie Smith, the 'Wolf Pack'. Only 10% of he truth about this monster has been revealed. Sadly those who know and can prove it are almost all deceased
They all knew what Savile was but they turned a blind eye out of fear of losing their jobs, especially the women. Back then women had very little power over their male colleagues. Not like today anyway. As for Savile being involved with Sutcliffe, I really don't think he was because he had no interest for older women. He liked underage girls. Sutcliffe primarily targeted sex workers. I definitely think Savile had the power to eliminate anybody he saw as a threat though. I remember he said something very disturbing about silencing his personal executive on This Is Your Life. And some of the people that knew him said some odd things about him in the video tapes on that show too.
I believe his oldest victim was 75 and he definitely was involved with prostitutes and abused some adult women in general too. So he definitely didn't rule out abuse of adult women. However, you are right that he mainly focused on underage girls or those only just over 16, the man thrived off his power over the vulnerable. A huge thing for Saville was targeting those who had less chance to defend themselves, so the younger the better in his warped mind. But I think he targeted women and girls of any age at Broadmoor, as long as they had something that made them vulnerable. It could have been their age and size, a cognitive disability like brain damage that incapacitated them from shunning his advances. Heck, even his disgusting necrophilia in the morgues probably stemmed from the power to take advantage of a woman's body without any fightback whatsoever. He was an absolute predator and opportunist, through and through.
There was actually 2 Ripper victims found outside Savile's flat, one of them was right outside, the other was found in the field at the side of his apartment block. Also, way back in the day there were an aristocratic family in Yorkshire called Savile, and they owned at lot of land, as a result a lot of Parks, roads, avenues etc are named Savile after them, one of the Ripper victims was murdered and found in a Savile Park, others were found either on/in, or close to roads/avenues named Savile. I might add, Irene Richards body was found even closer to Savile's flat than depicted in this video, it was right up at the side of the apartment block, years ago I looked into the murders in relation to Jimmy Savile, and it looked like his name was stamped all over them.
As an American i was disgusted at the news clip in the beginning of this. To tell women not to try to protect themselves with anything is wrong. That is telling them just give your life and maybe if they scream enough and the killer just stands around long enough the police will catch him.
It does not tell women not 2 protect themselves..it states clearly they risk arrest...plenty of problems in america with people protecting themselves..usually a massacre annually there..now thats disgusting
@@pleidiolwyfimwlad2104 No whats disgusting is that no one cares about what happens when you give a large pool of people psychiatric drugs. When there is no way to create a test pool large enough to find all the types of adverse reactions, that could have any number of serious repercussions. Both myself and my mother have worked with people with psychiatric problems and have seen what happens when things go wrong with medication. Hence the suicidal and Homicidal thoughts warnings on those types of medication Therapy is much more expensive. Clearly you haven't seen the cdc numbers that state over 500,000 to over 1,000,000 crimes are stopped each year (depending on the year because this study was over several years) just by brandishing a weapon. That doesn't get much media attention. Doesn't fit the gun control narrative
@@pleidiolwyfimwlad2104 Oh no I say don't limit anyone's natural right to defend themselves or anyone who can't defend themselves. Like I wouldn't sit and judge how a cat will defend itself and its kittens. Say that cat shouldn't have used all of its claws or it can use its claws but not its teeth. No. It's that animal's right to fight with any and all weapons it has, and i would want no less for a human.
Great bit of detective work which I'm sure those that should and those that do ,know already this whole shady timeline and every bit of association between those involved .keep digging.
One it wasn't a 'penthouse'. This was Yorkshire not new York. It was a crappy little house on Roundhay Park and it was his mother's house not his. And two victims were found close to it. One survived. Best to try and do a bit of research first.
@47fortyseven47 they hadn't discovered dna in the 70s..you're about 20 years out. They took a teeth print off him, which neither rules him in or out, that said the police believed for a long time (until they caught someone they could blame it all on) that there were at least 2 different men involved. They believed this almost all the way through and many of the police from back then still believe there was. They have also checked Saviles movements and can place him in the west Yorkshire area for everyone of these murders.
Peter Sutcliffe was a weakling and a coward. A coward, because he would strike when his victims ' backs were turned, a weakling because a 14 year-old girl fought him off, and that is probably why he used a hammer, because he wasn't stron enough to take down another person. Savile was very fit, despite the cigars, and he liked to do things in plain site. If he did kill, which would not suprise me, to be fair, he would want the victims to see him and he would want to watch the victims' faces. But no way was he responsible for any of the Ripper murders. The only reason Sutcliffe got away with it for so long was because the police in charge were so absolutely blinded by their own predujices and were not able to listen to their own teams because of the very old-fashioned top-down command structure. And the facts that the "elite" in the UK, meaning famous people, in many cases, were able to do whatever they wanted, and if anybody did complain or call them out, they were ignored.
Sutcliffe was no weakling. If you read anything that’s ever been written about sutcliffe they nearly always speak to friends and associates of him before he was caught and they nearly all say o Peter was very strong in relation to his size he was a grave digger in his younger years. Being fought off by a 14 yr old girl if that’s Tracy brown your referring to one of his early attacks before his first killing then the reason he didn’t kill her is because he was disturbed by an approaching car he ended up throwing her over a dry stone wall.
There is a definate criminal reason for saviles friendship with Peter Sutcliffe in broadmoor. People like saville cultivate these friendships for a reason because there is something to be gained from doing so. The fact that saville also cultivated friendships with senior police officers shows there was something he was conspiring with them. I wouldnt at all be surprised if the truth was that saville commited one of the murders attributed to the ripper. All of his curated friendships with the people involved point to this being a possibility.
Peter Sutcliffe is on record as saying he didn't like Jimmy, Now that's something when a convicted murderer says he doesn't like someone 7:20 is utter bs
@DM-87 that's all the more concerning that he said he didn't like him. Why? Because these 'friendships' that jimmy curated for himself were not based like normal friendships for you and I based on mutual respect but often involved having incriminating information on the other person that could potentially put them in a worse position than they are in and thus manipulating them through coercion into doing your bidding. Sutcliffe wouldn't have appeared cooperative with jimmy saville because he necessarily liked him but because savile could have made life difficult for him in broadmoor at his will. There could have been many more things that Savile knew about Sutcliffe that could have had him threatened with transfer to a regular prison where he would likely die and out of broadmoor
@DM-87 there has also been talk that sutcliffe was not the actual ripper and that many of crimes he is supposed to have comitted had been done by somebody else. I wouldnt be surprised if this was the case and sutcliffe went down for them all and was used some way by the people in power who he was at the mercy of. For some reason sutcliffe was first at a prison on the Isle of Wight for 3 years before being sent to broadmoor. Is this a normal place to send prisoners? There is always something about islands that these types of abusers love and I would wonder if there was some nefarious reason as to why sutcliffe was sent there before being transferred to broadmoor
Seems that West Yorkshire police have a great deal to answer for....failing with Peter Sutcliffe, failing with Jimmy Saville...why should that be ? What's going on ?
I would have thought it highly unlikely Sutcliffe would have been a mason as he was a working class lorry driver. The Freemasons don't let lowly people like that into their world.
Had Savile been charged with anything when he was alive one can only imagine what names he would have given up. Having kept company with the likes of Gary Glitter and Rolf Harris, I'm sure he would have been part of a ring of likeminded men. However, given the ineptitude of what would have to be the worst police force ever in existence, The West Yorkshire Police Department, he obviously had nothing to worry about. The only reason Sutcliffe was caught was by sheer luck.
Utter nonsense..Leeds city police from my 77yrs experience of living here had always a very good if dubious reputation ..we had a cult figure in Dennis hoban as a detective celebrated in the current TV series whose record and commitment have become legendary ...once merged with west York's police ,things became more problematic ...I hazard to say even after then,our clear up record for major crimes compared favourably to elsewhere....it was I think recently judged outstanding by national assessors,
I met Saville briefly in the late 80’s, when he visited what was back then a famous restraint in West Yorkshire, (I was employed there). I can honestly say that looking into his eyes was like looking into the eyes of the Devil.
Always said Suttcliffe wasn't the only ripper, as for the police I would have knicked Oldfield and Holland for wasting police time as they took the piss with the tape! We know Holland love setting up people, Oldfield a control freak, bad pairing there.
@@vinny9708 Him and his sidekick Holland bent as they come, wish Oldfield had still been alive and Holland to see if anyone would bring a civil case against them and have them prosecuted. We all know a few officers made good money from these cases so I wonder if Oldfield and Holland were on the take too?
To be fair; Hindsight is a wonderful thing. It is very difficult to say this because of what we now know; but the fact is Jimmy was a highly intelligent man (IQ: 147)....ergo;...he knew how to shield/protect himself by formulating friendships with the right people, (politicians, police chiefs etc). What appears obvious now was unthinkable then. It is NO accident that he went undetected.
@@janheard3826 He was an accepted member of Mensa. You are right Jan, he didn`t come across as highly intelligent. That was Jimmy`s act. That is how he managed to hide in plain sight for so long. It was a deliberate ploy. But there were occasions when it was clear how clever he was. There is footage of him on YT answering questions from a group of students. It is un - scripted. Yet Jimmy answers every question in a manner that the most skilled politician could only dream of. It was all but impossible to pin him down/catch him out/ or for him to give anything about himself away. I know it is hard to give credit to someone guilty of what he was guilty of; but make no mistake, mentally, Jimmy was as quick as greased lightning on steroids.
@@jimred5700 Jim, I’m a member of MENSA (admittedly I only scraped through with an IQ of 133 but that’s still in the top 2% of the population). I’m exceptionally good at logic problem type questions but pretty awful at anything too mathematical and I’ve never been able to do mathematical calculations in my head..I have to work it out on paper. I’m only mentioning this as people seem to think if one has a high IQ you must be some sort of genius which is just so not the case. My son has an IQ of 148 and he’s amazing at some things but is certainly no genius. In my opinion Jimmy Savile had a limited vocabulary and I would only believe he had an IQ of 147 if I saw him actually do an IQ test in front of me. Sharon Stone lied about being a member of MENSA for years before it came to light that she wasn’t.
@@janheard3826 that might very well be why he was so undetectable and in turn what made him so intelligent. If you can allow yourself to come across as a bumbling, foolish eccentric then it's another shield to hide behind. I have no doubt he was highly intelligent which is why everyone was hoodwinked by him for so long. The charity works, the relationships with papers, politicians, police, royalty - no coincidence or mistake, just more shields to hide behind. But, what this man did was abhorrent, evil and sadistic... and normally everything that comes before a 'but' is bollocks.
@@BrutalWisdom_ I know , it’s mad. I actually met Johnny Marr but it was pre all the Savile stuff going mainstream, I’d love to have asked him about the songs meaning. “ The leeds sides streets that you slipped down “ hang the dj!!!
Then again there's this lyric; "But there's panic on the streets of Carlisle Dublin, Dundee, Humberside." Many places mentioned. I like the theory though. Morrissey also says; "On the Leeds side streets that you slip down Provincial towns you jog 'round." Perhaps a nod to all the charity runs Savile did.
I remember, as it were just yesterday, watching Savile presenting Top of the Pops back in the late 60s, early 70s. Even back then I figured this man had another personality, another life. Weird, eerie, haunting, spooky!!!!!!
They bloody well didn’t. Savile sent people to shut you up. He got You sacked. You’d be in serious trouble for speaking up. And many people DID speak up. He was protected, there’s a difference. No one turned a blind eye at all
Sutcliffe always denied 1 of the murders,addmtting the rest. The other poor woman was killed by his friend Saville, body found not far from Saville flat in Leeds.
@@plipertyplap4899 but Sutcliffe did admit to Irene Richardson’s murder as his confession when arrested would testify to that,the only murder he did put any resistance to was that of Marguerite Walls then he finally admitted to it.
@@plipertyplap4899 Sutcliffe might have murdered 1 or 2 more but not the 20+ that Chris Clark in his book The Secret Murders said he did,even Keith Hellawell said Sutcliffe might have done up to 10 murders/attacks but all done within the confines of Yorkshire
His very body language was totally obnoxious. The way he lounges about the office at Broadmoor as if he owns the entire institution. But then whose fault is that ? The people who put him in the "so called job" and gave him keys and carte blanche to go wherever he wanted to. With a house thrown in as well ! Who knows what went on in that house !
Also those ridiculous clothes Saville was wearing he regularly had his shirt buttons undone and that stinking cigar he forever had dangling from his mouth he really thought highly of himself and superior to everyone else he was an absolutely horrible creature
Roy castle . ...now that was a seriously creepy individual .. .. . . . take a look at David john Hill from slade . . .This guy has a notorious reputation dating back to the 70s (you wont see him on TV connected with anything til he is dead!) . . . .. .
@@krishnan-resurrection714 so strange cos ever since i was a kid, whenever I see the Xmas slade music video I have always got major nonce vibes from him 😬
@@tanztummitternacht4236 ...yeah ..chilling ... no doubt a lot more will be revealed in the coming years .....i bet so many are part of that 'game' .. ..
The questioning of Saville in that murder case is not surprising. I myself was questioned, along with every other male over 15 in my area at the time, after a murder close to our homes, back in the early 80s. His flat was so close he basically HAD to be questioned, as every other male there would have been. Wouldn't SURPRISE me if he was involved, but the questioning is par for the course imho.
"Business men and Business ladies!.Always make sure your passengers do up their seat belts so they can't escape when you feel them up! Now then now then how about that then..."