The Young Sheldon Finale Solves A Huge Big Bang Theory Plot Hole 

Which show did you like more, "Young Sheldon" or "The Big Bang Theory?"

In TBBT, Sheldon once mentioned how the liquor store owner cried and cried for his father's passing, insinuating his dad was a major alcoholic. It would make a lot of sense for the owner to be his dad's friend and therefore cried during the funeral.

The inconsistencies in the way Sheldon portrayed his father is like witnessing a car accident. Different angles reveal different faults of those involved.

I think the combination of him being a child, having no social skills, and the way his mother reacted (anger against George) along with genuine care for his mother (to the point of going against his own beliefs) may have skewed his perception of who his father actually was.

No one ever considered that Sheldon’s judgment of a person’s character has always been incredibly flawed? He doesn’t understand people well. It was never complicated.

He also needs his wife to point things out to him too. As he talks about how his father always did things he didn’t enjoy because Sheldon enjoyed them I just wanted to reach into the tv & knock on his head “Hello? Anyone home? That’s what you need to do for your kids!”.

2 theories:- 1. Sheldon was writing his memoir as a public figure and therefore becomes the unreliable narrator. It could be that he romanticised his Dad for the public. It also fits how Mary remembers him in TBBT. 2. Sheldon is the type to get mad at a beloved dying in his formative years which causes resentment and skews how he remembers his Dad

Sheldon processed the loss with anger. If people recall episode of the bird he temporarily fostered, when it flew away, Sheldon screamed across the street, pissed, "Come back here so I can love you!. That's a piece of context how he handles his father's death.

Kinda figured they were going to do that to the afair George had. I'm glad they did. The rest is no big deal. Most kids have their parents wrong. Intill they're parents themselves.

George doing the vulcan salute brought instant tears to my eyes. It was so heart breaking yet touchingly beautiful.

his perception about his family throughout was always skewed even in the big bang show. everyone who met his sister and brother acknowledge it was nothing like how he described them. even how he describe leonard and howard make it sound like they are idiots. so it not jus this dad, it just his perception is narcissistic and toward the end of the show is when he really grew up and admit his own flaws.

This is very much the theory I went with on the inconsistencies between Young Sheldon and TBBT. Now when it came to Mary's viewpoints in TBBT, it could be safe to say that she went through a similar form compartmentalizing her memories of George just as Sheldon did in order for her to cope with his death. It would give another deep connection between Sheldon and his mother and it also makes sense when you imagine the level of grief that Mary was going through when George died and dove even further into Christianity. Of course as we know most of the stories about George in TBBT do have some level of truth to them, from a certain point of view.

I was not a huge big bang theory fan, so I really had no desire to watch young sheldon when I heard it was being made. I am so glad I gave it a chance. It has so much more soul than I thought it would. George and Mary are certainly among the best TV parents ever written

Sheldon really describe he's dad in not a good way until he matured when he meet Amy and got married that's when we knew he's not the young Sheldon anymore 👍💯

There is something that resolves a lot between TBBT and YS. How can a character have 7 years of development and end up in the place of immaturity where he starts in TBTT? Through trauma. In 2 episodes they were able to make a clear difference that brings Sheldon closer to TBBT and away from YS. Bravo.

The finale of Young Sheldon was actually one of the best sitcom finale's ever. Even better than many drama series. It was incredible seeing him 'groundhog-day' that scene with his Dad play-out over and over again complete with the Star Trek: II overtones. I shed a tear a couple of times.

George Cooper, without a doubt my favorite character from the show

Tbh it makes perfect sense. Sheldon has always been unable to understand or interact well with “normal” people. And, let’s me honest, is often kinda a stuck up jerk. I just think this goes to show that Hseldon, as he became his father’s age, realized that he was unfair and wrong about his father. I know I sure see my father differently now than I did as a teenager.

Sheldon thought his father had cheated on his mother and that greatly affected the way he thought of him. When he walked into the bedroom and caught his dad with another woman, he lost some respect for his dad and that is why he focused on the bad instead of the good. He would forever remember his dad that way. Sadly the other woman was his mother dressed as a German barmaid.

Adult Sheldon on TBBT did actually show a couple of times how much he really did care about his dad. The first was when Howard’s mom dies, he makes the point of saying that when his dad died, he didn’t have anyone to help him through it, but Howard has all of them. The second was when he shared a beer with Bernadette’s dad while watching football on TV. These two incidents show that Sheldon loved his dad a lot more than he had previously let on.

The actor who portrays Sheldon's father makes an appearance in season 5 episode 11. The Speckerman Recurrence. In which he plays the character Jimmy Speckerman former high school bully to Leonard.

He wasn't abused at all sure he was an drunken but he was the best loving father and husband

Ma Ryan never lost her anger at George for dying, instead of dealing with her grief she ran to the church to hide from it. She was stuck on the anger phase of grief and as such to the small things of George grabbing a beer after work, or not understanding Sheldon, the earlier issues that they were resolving, the reasons and resentments that she had for being angry at George before the happy times at the end were her justifications for hanging on to her anger. By ignoring the place where they were at at the end of their time together she could stay angry. So the stories she told the derogatory way she spoke about him is all of her unresolved grief.

For a little while I was starting to think the writers were going to leave out the part about Sheldon’s father dying suddenly, even though everyone knew it was coming. And the way it was setup was very well executed. Plus we get a glimpse of what that experience was like for Sheldon and why he was the way he was in the beginning of the Big Bang Theory. He wasn’t necessarily selfish or cynical or antisocial, he was just very emotionally unavailable after his father’s death. Plus I believe that Sheldon focused on his father’s shortcomings because of how angry he was, given the way his father met his end.

I feel like the answer here is very obvious. When they wrote TBBT, they didn't know that there would be a spin-off about Sheldon's family and childhood. The way that Sheldon's dad is described in the series adds to the laughs, there's nothing deeper to it. When they were making Young Sheldon, though, they couldn't very well spend seven seasons with an unlikeable or even abusive father. That would give the show a very different tone. So they wrote him in a way that would work for Young Sheldon. There's nothing as deep as Sheldon's way of processing grief or him being an unreliable narrator. They just needed a likeable dad for YS. It's fiction after all.

Sheldon is just trying to figure out his feelings.

Fun fact: The actor who plays sheldon's dad in "young sheldon", also plays Leonard's childhood bully in "big bang theory".

So his mother told him about the cosplay act, to show him that his father never cheated?

YS is more heartfelt and charming than TBBT

Sheldon didn't depict George in a positive way on The Big Bang Theory because he died when Sheldon was 14. That's how I see it. He didn't have friends to help him, which he mentions to Howard when his mom passes away.

I’m not surprised. Every time a person from his family was seen on TBBT, they were never as bad as he claimed. He described his mother as basically a religious zealot who hated science. However, it always seemed more like she was a religious person who loved people and only debated science when he tried to use it to disprove her faith. Additionally, he described his siblings as mean spirited bullies who were constantly tormenting him. When in reality, his sister was a kind and loving person who only lashed out when she felt that she had no other option. Moreover, his brother was a good natured, if occasionally absent minded, man who looked after his emotionally destroyed mother after his father’s death. All the while, Sheldon was convinced that his mother was perfectly fine. Also, Georgie mentioned that he was always having to apologize for his brother to people who didn’t understand his behavior. Basically, Sheldon badmouthed his family when HE was the problem. And now he’s acknowledging that.

I liked throughout the show how Sheldon’s narration didn’t always line up to what was going on. Usually for laughs. But it’s a good way of showing that the show was the “true” version of events while Sheldon’s narration was just how he saw things from his point of view

I can completely understand the "plot holes" with regard to Sheldon's memory of childhood events. My wife and sister-in-law often tell very different stories of the same event in their childhood. As others have said, different points of view yield different memories. I think YS did a fantastic job of filling in the "plot holes" that were in TBBT. One major difference (besides the fact that actor that plays Leonard's bully ends up playing Sheldon's dad) is, of course, Meemaw. Annie Potts does a great job with the character, showing both the raw, rough-around-the-edges grandmother that loves her little Moonpie. I think that the Meemaw character on TBBT was hard for fans to like, probably due to a lack of character development at the time.

When Amy questioned part of what she read in the memoirs, Sheldon confirmed that his perspective was subjective, so it is clear that the line he drew in the series was quite ambiguous to be considered 100% reliable.

Now we just need to know why Mary kept up this idea that George was such a piece of crap. I dont think she ever said one good thing about the man in TBBT which makes you think that he was a terrible father and husband the whole time and her reliance on faith was almost an escape from him for her.

The finale show was so sad , it was hard . 😭

The last two episodes were great. I was surprised at reading posts where people criticized them, for various reasons. I thought they were both well done and set all of George and Mary's children on the paths we would see them on in TBBT

Such is life. I am the youngest of four children. We each have our own memories of every major event, good and bad, that differ. Perspective. None of us wrong, we just had a different view.

There are many inconsistencies in Young sheldon that don't match in Tbbt. 1. Sheldon's first kiss. In the big bang theory when asked if Sheldon kissed anyone he mentioned he gave mouth to mouth to a nun. But we know that he had his first kiss with Paige 2. Sheldon was asked by the girls if he learnt dancing and he said that as a Texan he had to learn dancing , although Mary Cooper was against Missy dancing.

I'm curious, when older Sheldon and Amy are seen, how many years have passed since TBBT's finale, and what prompted the narration/ I'm assuming he's writing his own novel, but was that established from the beginning or just mentioned in the future scenes? Probably overthinking this, but just curious

I've known multiple people that held on to a childhood anger at one or both parents, if just 1 it is usually the parent that is the same sex as the child. Then after being a parent for years, sometimes even matching a parent's final age, they finally see it from the parent's perspective, that they are flawed people doing the best they can, and so was mom or dad, or mom and dad.

Heck I'm still trying to figure Penny's last name. But I'm glad mysteries have been answered regarding the Coopers.I love Big Bang more, but Young Shelly was a worthy prequel.

I think that’s what they planned on doing with the show. Showing people how human Sheldon actually was. Yes he was a genius, but he was still a young kid who didn’t know how the world worked so he’s mind began to make thing ip to fill I the the feelings he couldn’t understand or comprehend.

I kinda wish missy has better life in tbbt tbh.

I think the biggest glare of the two shows is that Sheldon's dad was leonard's bully. lol

Did he die or go undercover at Leonard's high-school and ended up being his bully?

the actor who plays Sheldon's father made an incredible work, i think that this was the reason to change the story line

When we were watching clips from the finale, I commented to my mom that I liked better YS because of the portrayal of Sheldon's family. And my mom said exactly that Sheldon had grown up, as a person, and being a dad changed his perspective, because that's what happened to her. She always thought my grandparents were mean to her, but when she had me and my sis, her perspective changed.

Simply put, Sheldon is more human than he wanted to be.

Will they ever produce a new tv series where the male figure me husband or father is not cast as a buffoon or something like that can’t he just be a good man??

How to enjoy tv? stop overthinking, it's just fiction. Enjoy it.

So I never watched this show or a whole lot of the original so I could be totally wrong but I read an article the other day saying there was a hint in the final episode that he did cheat. I guess it was in reference to how another reacted to either hearing about his death or funeral

That ruled!

I find that this is common in most media, people don't think someone could be misremembering or lying unless there is a massive sign above them saying "LIAR!"

You know either way these 2 stories wind through the events of life after all the seasons we watched, the truth is we had fun watching and enjoyed the characters. Thanks to Chuck Lore and his teammates for all the fun times. Do Georgie's story well please.

People called the fact that Sheldon on TBBT portrayed his dad, or other members of his family way worse than they were in reality a 'plothole' but it isn't really. These are just natural inaccuracies that were created as a side effect of one thing only: because Young Sheldon & TBBT are TV shows of two different genres, and the writing required for each of them, is different. Remember what the TBBT Mary said about Georgie and Missy on The Big Bang? That Missy & Georgie are both dumb and unsuccessful, which also, is clearly not true. So the Big Bang version of Mary, just like the Big Bang's Sheldon, also 'lied' or 'portrayed' her two other kids inaccurately. Why? Because The Big Bang is a sitcom, Young Sheldon is a normal family drama. If you rewatch TBBT, Sheldon or Mary, saying on the Big BangTheory outrageous, exaggerated things like 'George was a hardcore alcoholic' and Missy&Georgie are 'dumb' is always part of a joke, in the context of comedy, like a punchline, exactly because Big Bang is a sitcom, and the sole purpose of sitcoms is comedy. So was an exaggeration, not a lie, and it's perfectly understandable why. The Big Bang Theory came out first, and it was a sitcom - a very specific genre, it's all about jokes and comedy, and exaggeration is like the fundament of every joke in comedy. Young Sheldon aired years after the Big Bang, and it was a simple family drama show but not a comedy or the specific genre of comedy that a sitcom is. Therefore, on Young Sheldon, everything is more toned down and 'normal' because it's not a sitcom, the jokes and laughs are not needed every minute, and this is why certain situations feel quite different, but these are still situations that Sheldon described. Yes, it was exaggerated, and certainly, Sheldon's father is not as extreme and didn't make mistakes as severe as Sheldon said he did, but again - that's the different formulas for different genres. Young Sheldon was always planned as a warm, nice family show for entire families to watch, so they couldn't really portray George as this awful, hardcore alcoholic and cheater, so they wrote a tamed, 'nice' version of him on Young Sheldon. And because Young Sheldon aired years after the Big Bang, they couldn't simply change how Sheldon described his father on Big Bang either, that was a problem. The creators assumed the viewers are smart enough to understand the difference between a sitcom and a family drama show, and wouldn't hold it against them or these characters. This is why when I watch Young Sheldon, I can separate the two in the sense, that I get that the comedy part of The Big Bang had to come from smth, as this was a sitcom, and came first, while Young Sheldon was a typical family drama, and aired years after TBBT, so what was done was done.

I like these recon because it makes sense, and it also makes sense with Mary cracking jokes I still remember when she says “My husband always said you have to give Shelly some time” “Sounds like a wise man,” “No he would fight a bobcat for the last piece of liquorice” One, I don’t think we ever heard him call Sheldon Shelly, that was always her thing. And we know George would never do that. Even in the final episode she said she hated him for leaving them (him dying) so if that just her giving another jab at him I don’t know.

Sometimes when something reminds me of a difficult memory, I will try to gloss over it by making a joke out of it, or playing down the importance in some way. A lot like how every time Sheldon thinks of his dad, it hurts so he feeds that into what he says, making his dad come off as a lot worse than he really was. But the anger isn't at his dad, its at the pain of the memory.

I've cried so much in the funeral episode...

Damn I don't want to let this show go, and just after watching the last two, my feels got smashed again and thought about my dad passing away when I was 7 and I never told him I was sorry and that I love him.... SUch a great show! Just loved how they had each member of the Cooper family deal with his death and Georgie stepping up and Missy's anger, but also regret maybe for not taking him up on the offer for a ride to school. Also, poor Wayne, dude was rekt. Proves that George was a stand up guy and amazing father. Not to mention, Missy recollecting one of her fondest memories of her and her dad alone together. So sweet.

I would not say that. That is young Sheldon fixing The Big Bang Theory I'd say that's more so young Sheldon fixing itself.

I genuinely dislike how the show ended.... George dies and we get old sheldon.. like i know he is suppose to lack the emotional intellegence but man i just wanted some what of a resolve or something to happen.

"Hello, you handsome American boy toy."😂🤣🤣🤣🤣Omg, I can't!😆 LMFAO! Who woulda known Saint Mary Cooper woulda had it in 'er to be so down bad, ba ha ha ha HAA!!!

Honestly...the show should had been The Cooper family...all the characters shined...

I have one issue with this plot line. If I remember correctly in TBBT when adult Sheldon tried to ask his Georgie for his wedding, the one said something like: "After dad death, you went to Germany and I stayed to support our family". But the YS shows something completely different? Firstly, Sheldon went to Germany way before George's death, and it's not shown if Georgie was actually mad at him for leaving to Caltech.

I always knew they would round it out well. They changed all the characters despite what Sheldon described them as because frankly the family Sheldon described in Big Bang, no one would want to watch that because they all hated each other. No kidding they changed it dramatically to make them more lovable and fun to watch. I like how they decided to round it out. It even gives context to how Sheldon was in Big Bang sometimes. He's been processing the sudden death of his dad for years. And I'm happy Amy could give him some pointers too. 😊

In the finale, adult Amy tells adult Sheldon that "our daughter wants to take acting lessons", and Sheldon replies that they should never have let Penny babysit. What's the name of the daughter?? We know they had a son named Leonard.

I mean its not a stretch the way he always describes his mother and siblings, and basically everyone around him. He usually embellished the truth quite a bit about characters we already know.

how do you figure it was the nick of time.. the timing was PERFECT! a major character "killed off" in the final episodes was the best, it SUCKS to continue watching a show after that is done... either it does NOT work or it takes time to adjust to it.. ie blacklist, ncis etc....either of which i continued to watch after liz left (i gave it a chance) and same with ncis to many main people left the show

Sheldon was amusing in the first 2 seasons, then he just became an absolute arse.

I think #2…in BBT Sheldon was mad at Tam for a long time.

Other than the last couple shows... the whole season felt like a setup for a Georgie show. I wish I hadn't been told they were doing a show for Georgie. It kind of painted my entire attitude going into watching the season.

_Subjective retelling_ 😂 I gotta start using that euphemism to justify bullshitting.

I didn’t feel like the plot hole was that big because, even within the scope of just TBBT, we saw him denigrating people all the time. If he was talking about someone who wasn’t around, it often wasn’t complimentary. If he WAS complimenting them, it was often back-handed and condescending. Sometimes, the joke was seeing how overblown Sheldon’s criticisms were. So the idea that his father was another person Sheldon talked about in an unfairly harsh tone and wasn’t the caveman Sheldon made him out to be took ZERO getting used to.

Young Sheldon has to be one of the best sitcom, way better than TBBT. The final episodes with George was really very sad and tearful. Made me cry. Also lifted the series more up. Another powerful moment was the hurricane scene where George was covering Misty by side of road.

Its also that a dad from the 1980's would have been exactly like BBT described but when they made Young Sheldon its written by millenials and they only have modern day parents to go off of for reference so its watching a sitcom from that era with modern day people.

Another plot hole, big bang theory, Sheldon never mentioned Georgie having a child.

I think it was a good call to show he was writing his life story this whole time

I have to admit, I'm having a little trouble picturing a son of Sheldon and Amy playing hockey. Where did that come from?

All children in the same family grow up in a different home, with different parents.

How weird would it be for Lance Barber (George's actor) seeing a funeral for himself.

the plot hole is he never went to harvard and went to east texas tech in young sheldon.

I knew exactly how Young Sheldon would end. Sheldon from time to time mention that his dad passed away young. My question was when it would happen. George's passing also cleaned up a point whe Sheldon ask George Jr to come to his wedding. Jr said then, when Sheldon went to TX to ask Jr if he would come, that he was always taking care of their mother. And this showed how & when Georgie started doing that. The closure explained a lot of things. Young Sheldon did what a lot of series fail to do and that is telling how it ends. Not just ending the last episode.

There were many striking inconsistencies that could never really be corrected.

Sheldon tried to hide his pain by making up another story on his father.

Sheldon has a tendency to point out other people’s flaws, so it makes sense that for a very long time Sheldon didn’t really look at his father’s positive traits, until his own children came along and grew up.

Does it tho?

very nice video, but your last point is wrong. Sheldon in TBBT talks about George Sr's mistress trying to buy his love with toys. It's not that Sheldon saw it wrong, it's the writer's attempt at changing George Sr's story. It's much nicer but still a plot hole

I can’t get over what that white box thing is behind the door is that a tall building ?

They didn't just humanize the character, they showed that Sheldon only had one good parent and that was his dad. His mom was an absolute nightmare in Young Sheldon.

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Georgie & Mandy's First Marriage could reveal that Georgie takes an IQ test on a lark, scoring higher than even Sheldon. The elder brother could believe the results wrong or choose to keep them to himself. Possible explanations could be not wanting to show up his brother or the fear of the stigma he believes follows genius. Either way Georgie is a genius in his own way.

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I liked that for all the season, the show was teasing us about with whom George was going to have his affair until the ciosplay revelation, nicely played writers

Maybe creators wanted to "fix" the profile of Sheldon's father, in Young Sheldon show...

Young Amy!

We never saw missy beating up sheldon or George sr shooting a tv like Sheldon said he did.

It was actually Amy who solved the plot hole.

For someone with a supposed eidectic memory this doesn't explain why there's differences in the 2 shows.

I still only see that guy as Leonard’s bully, not Sheldon’s dad.