I was thinking about this last night & happened to see this comment today, wow.. 👀 I think when we are healthy, we can recognise conviction but when unhealthy, everything can seem like and/or become condemnation..💭
“We want so badly for someone to tell us it’s okay or it’s not ok. Having the responsibility to decide for ourselves is like paralyzing...that way if something goes wrong and someone else told me, I can blame it on them. I can shirk responsibility” 🤯
For some, to decide for themselves is difficult when their taught that the Bible/God has the concrete answer to all of life's critical issues or questions. So in theory they'd think there is an okay or not okay answer. I think one of the bigger issues is laziness, gullibility, and blind faith. Very few ppl want to study to show themselves approved..
Nobody else sees the irony in that statement......They spent like 20 minutes telling us if it's ok or not ok......Then tells people they need to take responsibility for making their own decisions.....I mean y'all got a whole podcast (series even) telling people what to think.....Maybe it's just me...
As a fellow brother in Christ and a pastor, I'm glad you all took reasonable positions and articulated them well without compromising biblical convictions or confusing folk. Great transparency as well. 👍🏾👍🏾 Also, thank you for not bashing pastors. 1. It ain't easy. 2. Most of us are doing the absolute best we can with what we have and are 3. Seeking to learn to be better at leading God's people. I will be sharing this with my preacher and pastor friends to consider.
I love how well spoken she is about the critical issues (with a Christian-focused perspective)!!! I know my personal convictions, but she is one of the FIRST people that has spoken very well without trying to sway people one way or the other.
Love what she said about knowing that you are a sexual being BUT that all things have their proper time and place. Anything (even good) outside of the proper time and context can be lethal.
“God is sex positive.” -stopped me in my tracks. I had to pause the whole video and sit and chew on that. It was soooo GOOD! This is the kind of language that should have always been used when speaking of these things. That one sentence broke something in me and birthed an entire shift in my thinking concerning all things sex. Wow, just wow!
Ri Child God CREATED sex, therefore it is pleasing in His sight. It is not meant for shame or condemnation, but freedom and pleasure. Which He is not against either. Nowhere in my statement did I say “sin is okay”. Neither was that the narrative that was expressed in this video had you been listening with an open mind. Prayerfully you will have a similar revelation concerning sex and become free in believing God is PRO-sex.
"By getting the opinions of other people, we are allowing them to act as our Holy Ghost, and so we don't have the opportunity to develop and grow our own intuition; the Holy Ghost; that whisper; that push that says, "No, that's not for you boo.That's wrong!" ---- I literally got chills when you said that!
Kevin is a harassment claim waiting to happen! "That's a WHOLE coo-chie!" Somebody take that pillow from him! Lawd, lemme turn this volume down lol! Thanks for this topic! The less stigma around sexuality in the Christian community we have, the better and more empowered we'll all be. And, I see yall with the special effects! Come through technology. :-)
N Ca If your joking I think we must be careful in todays society of throwing around that term and if your not joking I think of how sensitive our society has become even towards great black men.
LOVED THIS!! What’s mommy doing on the ceiling fan 😂😂😂 Anyway... years ago my pastor talked about shame and guilt and I thought I’d share. Shame is of the devil, his way to try to keep you from going to God and confessing your sins and seeking forgiveness. It makes you feel like you’re stuck and too far gone to be saved. While guilt is a good tool to help you recognize your sin and bring you back to the feet of Jesus. I always think about this when I’m feeling ashamed of my sin... I stop and realize the devil is trying to keep from reconciling with God.
@@LuvKitKatt this is PERFECT!! absolutely conviction is real & it’s not always “guilt”. Also masturbation IS a form is sexual immorality contrary to the beliefs of many. Masturbation just as fornication opens you up to demonic spirits and gives spirits access to your body such as : late marriage / no marriage/ divorce/ infidelity (yes it affects all of this) , reproductive issues including miscarriage, sexual dreams with demonic spirits that bind you to spirit spouses, etc… we must be careful how we conduct ourselves. And God CAN deliver you if you seek Him for deliverance. Now, in the marriage bed… be led how you please 🤷🏽♀️ but outside of that carries many consequences. Seek God and not man, He will reveal it to you.
Listen, I 100% enjoy The Love Hour, even when some of the guests are "questionable" to me. This show!!!!! 💞💞💞 To have a sho'nuff believer speak as she did about sex was so refreshing & truly liberating. More than any other guest you've had, and there have been some wonderful guests, she really spoke truth without being judgmental. Loved it!
This was my EXACT thought!!! She wasn't trying to sway listener's one way or the other, but she truly allowed her light to SHINE in a non-judgmental way!!! Sometimes people find it hard to speak TRUTH on mainstream platforms, so this made my whole heart HAPPY!!! ("A sho'nuff believer" is the right term, chile!!!)
"we always wanna condemn whats not for us as if its not for everybody" "We try to impose our feelings on everyone else" I'm so happy Kevin said that and they discussed how whats for you doesn't have to be for everyone else. This is SUCH an amazing lesson in life for so many people.
Masturbation is a personal decision. I didn't even know this was a religious topic. Some things you do or don't do in private are nobody's business to judge or bring their religious expectations upon you. I have issues with most societal and religious expectations.
I get it, so I was just thinking out loud. They did address it in the video, however because I'm not a religious person but grew up in the church, masturbation was never discussed in church when I was young.
Double lifestyles are DANGEROUS!!!! My parents are also my pastors (have been my whole life)... and my favorite thing about them is that they were CONSISTENT in and outside of the church!!! Now that I have my own children, I seek to lead the same life at church when I lead and at home before my children. I do not want to confuse them now or later with hypocrisy or inconsistent lifestyles!!! TELL THE TRUTH lol... you cannot tell someone what is right and then they see you living the opposite... God is not pleased lol
Agreed! My dad is my pastor, moms first lady and I have seen them for over 20 years now (since saved) REMAIN CONSISTENT. Wholeheartedly agree with you!
You done outdid yourself with this weeks podcast! You know I could see you developing curriculum or leading workshops to help teach churches how to have these convos since you're so good at asking those in-depth questions Liss. 👀👀👀
THIS is ministry! God was on display all up and through this. So many times I kept saying, “Mmmm, say that again!” So grateful for each of you coming together with all of these individual experiences and personal testimonies and perspectives, so refreshing! Especially as a believer I am stuck replaying this over and over and over because it feels like someone just took a flashlight and journeyed into the dark, uncertain areas of my heart and mind concerning sex and illuminated so many parts of my thinking that hadn’t ever before been challenged or clarified. You two are right in the vein of truth with this. Awesome guest, she spoke so carefully but also powerfully about how people view certain things and gave so much insight about sexual individuality while also demasking how we can sometimes allow various outside influences to dictate our personal sexual viewpoints, freedoms, & choices. Whew! This just keeps getting better and better 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Read romans 14 the liberty of the law. We put our own conviction on other convictions that are not law. When the Bible is silent we should not place our personal convictions on others. Although in the text it not talking about sex but I can hold true to other things if you feel something is sinful don’t sin against your yourself but don’t put you your personal feeling on other if the Bible is silent on the subjects and those of us who believe other wise should t try and convince someone to sin against themselves. Sorry for if any typo hope this is understandable
@@KhalilahBall Yeah, it's really good!!! Soooo much good stuff and thoughts!!! I'm sitting at my desk - working, trying to listen, trying to respond to a hot topics, etc... lol hahaha
Erica did a great job. It's not easy representing God in these kinds of environments but she did great, while not being judgemental. But in this day, it seems like no matter what she said, she would be criticized. If Erica went and said, yes it it wrong, everyone would be on her back about it. Now she said, it's between that person and God, and folks still are mad at her! Thank God, He is the only one that matters in the end !! Stay encouraged Erica !!
I appreciate this woman of God for seeming like the homie or big sister. She out here laying it out here plain and understandable. She operating in her ministry.
1:03:08 THAT IS ME! I present myself sometimes at this over the top extrovert person to protect the real shy introvert me on the inside. When people really get closer to me and my real shy quiet side is revealed they think something is always wrong with me
I love that Melissa mentioned to talk to God about it. Just because other people do it, doesn't mean that it's ok and vice versa. It's our questioning to God and His response that is the answer.
You can question the pastor, and you should. please do not take his word as the final say. The final say is the Bible period. You can question anyone who contradict the bible
AUTHENTICITY!!!! I said something about this in the book club the other week talking about Burnout!!!! Authenticity is one of the keys to LIFE!!!! We all deserve (and those in our lives deserve) to deliver our authentic selves 100% of the time!!!
Every time I have "given in," I felt *lonely* and guilty afterwards. Also one time, I felt separation from God; I could sense it. And acts that cause separation from God is the definition of sin. Do not be decieved. I don't care what anybody says, I know that masturbation is a sin.
Sex is right and good within the confines of marriage. However, porn is clearly wrong and evil. It boils down to lusting for people we are not married to. Its not a preference, its a sin.
Married people create porn and watch what they created so by your logic that is evil porn within the confines of marriage🤔 don't try to justify your judgements just live your life
Vakavaka Boomshakalakalaka “... lusting for people we are not married to.” I think he’s talking about a different type of porn in this case. You also sound dishonest. I’m sure you know what context he was referring to regarding porn. You act like people who watch porn are married people watching their own content.
Come on saints! I love that y’all are helping build stronger marriages through intimacy! Women are taught to always have a yes in our spirit but this is the first time I’ve heard any real information to make it easier to give that yes. Men, get on your skeeball game!
Whew Melissa with a Word! Let the Holy Ghost lead you. There will be a time when we will worship God in spirit and in truth. The only way we will get there is by studying and knowing for yourself.
GOT TO KNOW FOR YOURSELF!!!! I mean, in reality, we can't even use this podcast (or what ANYONE else says) to guide us through this life... work out your soul's salvation with fear and trembling!!!
@@antoinycemathisAmen you must know the word for yourself and apply it daily. Salvation is a personal walk that's not easy but If you choose to be kept God will teach & show you he is faithful to do and keep you.
how do yall even deal! Kevin is hilarious! and great segment! getting approval from other is for the birds! I'm finally understanding that now. I'm almost 40! Jesus! thank you for deliverance!
I struggle for many years about masturbation. I'm so grateful to the Holy Spirit concerning my sexuality. He teaching me what's right for me. Thank God for freedom
Yeeeeeessss for this skeeball reference!!! I agree 100%!!!!!!!!!! (We're all different, but there are so many options that God has blessed us, husband and wife, with!!!!!!)
Loved this. When you're truly in tune with God's spirit, what He tells you is the same thing He'll tell anyone else about any situation. He isn't the author of confusion. Just as in the old testament, all of the prophets had the same revelation from God. Each individual's experience is what made them all unique.
Ultimately the Word of God is our guideline because every spitit have to be tested even our own. Besides the Word of God says that: Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counsellers there is safety.
Ultimately the Word of God is our guideline because every spitit have to be tested even our own. Besides the Word of God says that: Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counsellers there is safety.
I literally had to pause the video and breakdown shame, condemnation & conviction. Also, when Brittany said that you could be sexual without having sex, I felt like she was talking to me. This interview was a whole word!
I love the discussion here! Some very good topics of discussion because people who grow up in church definitely have a challenging time being intimate with their spouse once they do get married. Thank you for debunking these truths. This has been a major concern and point of shame in a sense in my marriage, and its good to know there are ways to successfully move past those teachings as long as we do it together, in love, and being considerate of one anothers comfortabilities until we become completely open and free from shame in these areas.
Kevin is preoccupied with eating in this segment....... LOL!! Side note: When Josh finds a wife, Lort have mercy! Lol The true, open, Christian information that he and others who may be living in condemnation is PRICELESS! Brittany is THE BEST.....EVER!! Thanks Melissa lul
Love the Red-Yellow-Green activity!!! We'll have to pull that one out!! Freedom is soooo powerful - learning the WORD and learning your (and your spouse's) body!!!!
I loved this episode! Christians can rarely have an honest conversation about sex. I think that it's awesome to let people know that some of the church folks you're following are doing some of the things they told you NOT to do. I heard TD Jakes say once that since the bible doesn't speak on masterbation, that he wasn't going to talk about it. Not sure if that's still the case with him. I also heard Juanita Bynum say that in order to masterbate, your mind has to go to certain places when you're supposed to keep your mind on 'things that are lovely, things that are pure', etc. Bottomline is it's a personal choice and it's between you and God. That's it. Thank you for your ministry!!!
This is good stuff y’all!!!! I love healthy, analytical, fact-full discussions!! However, I want to point out that the role of the five fold ministry “Pastors, Teachers, Prophets, Apostles, Evangelist” are ordained by God to edify the body of Christ, period!!! So for the people in the back...I think we gotta be a tad bit careful that they don’t misunderstand or misinterpret these ministry gifts importance! They are necessary and shouldn’t be diminished or negated in anyway!!!! Our same bible has multiple examples of how we should be taught and the way it should be done. At the end of the day, saints we gotta read our bibles for everything, about everything, Period, Pooh. And we also gotta be in a place of good teaching and yet mature to a level that sometimes the folks over us will say stuff that ain’t right but they aren’t exempt from error! But the Holy Ghost on the inside of us is our teacher (and much more) and will help us...let’s not fail to forgot His very important role in navigating this walk!! I just don’t want us to think we should navigate this walk alone because stupid stuff since eternity has been said over the pulpit.
First time here and Brittne is very good at her profession and I like that she was able to talk seriously about thing that are normally awkward to say.
The point about voices blocking out the Holy Spirit is so true. God help us. And let us also pray for the church because the church is Blessing many but also confusing many. So much duplicity.
Kevin FREDERICKS!!!!!! Man I hollered this episode.. I don’t think I’ve ever laughed out loud so hard at a video! Liss again you are SO SO beautiful!! 💕
Here's what I get from the Bible, old testament seed spilling aside, all New Testament. 1 Corinthians 7:3-8 Reiterates that we are made man for woman. That our body is not our own, that we belong to our spouse. Therefore it is our spouses duty to please us, not ours. 1 Thessalonians 4:3-5 Tells us to posses our vessel in sanctification and honour and to not give into lust as people that don't know God. Matthew 5:28 Tells us if we so much as look/think on another to lust after, we have committed adultery in our heart. If we are depending on ourself to meet our needs, then we are not trusting in God to meet our needs. I say this as a man that sins, we all sin and fall short of the glory of God. I know it gets hard, especially when our spouse is upset and holding out, just this year I slipped up in this department and had to repent. But we must put our trust in God and trust that he can calm those urges and sustain us.
I did not think I would be so pleased, but I really appreciate what she has said so far. I really was expecting her to say it's ok. I am the " I'm not going to do this because it's not enough for me" person.
Why my stupid self start applauding Kev on his skee-ball comment like he was running for a touchdown? Man this show is so helpful to me as a man because I get to see another guy getting to be curious!
I was chatting with this older lady and she said oral sex was a sin within a marriage.....Oral sex is not a sin. Its a personal preference. She's right some messages are taken from personal preferences and got people jacked up
Let me tell you how this podcast topic was EVERYTHING for me!!! Growing up in the church, I’ve found that there are a lot of “no-no” conversations and topics. Sex being one of them. I have evolved so much. And this podcast highlights A LOT of what I have been thinking. So glad a believer decided to minister to the people in this manner. Because like y’all said, all ministry doesn’t have to look the same.
