Therapist Murdered After Crossing Boundaries | Felix and Susan Polk Case Analysis 

Good!!! Her mom should have reported him to the police immediately....than her life would have been spared!

That girl’s name? Michael Jordan

@@TheDweeb002 That therapist's name? Jada Pinkett Smith.

Because the parents trusted her. 10/10 parents

ValeriedeMello, loved reading the example you gave! Had something of that happened when Susan was young, then the career of evil Felix Polk would've ended looooong time back. It's obvious Susan was not given the proper guidance by adults in her family. I suspect Susan kept things secret before her Marriage.

Including herself.

@@PoM-MoM Right !!!

I'm pretty sure he chose her for her limitations. That's what predators do.

She stabbed someone to death. Let's not forget that.

@@wheatstonebridge - Someone who was as deserving of their fate as I've ever come across. He started grooming her when she was FOURTEEN and he in his late thirties or early forties. Not only much older than her, but also a THERAPIST to whom she was confiding her deepest fears and frailties. He certainly committed statutory rape on her. He should have been jailed then - and his authority to work as a therapist rescinded. He might still be alive today (and still a swine - although prison time might have humbled his arrogance somewhat - I doubt it though). I personally don't waste any sympathy on people for whom Dame Karma rides in on her broomstick in time for the rest of us to see and shudder. And be thankful that we at least try hard to do the right and not the wrong things. Susan was no saint, herself, but, My God, being the prey of such a bastard for such a long time, from when you were FOURTEEN??? No. He had it coming. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Poor offspring of such an ill-fated coupling. No to mention the 2 older children of the first "disposable" (to that dickwad) marriage.

They were using him for money. It was just a transactional relationship.

Susan’s mother didn’t know. That’s why it was never reported

I am not sure how you can be so sure about so many things even when they are not known to the public. Has there been a trial about their relationship when she was a minor? Did the former wife ever comment on their relationship? Do you have sources that speculate on his intent for committing her? Did he have a diary that gave a list of his motivations why he paid for her expenses? In what way did he torture her, what's your source? You certainly dont need trials to make your judgement of guilt. I find it almost funny that nex to statutory rape you list cheating on his wife 3 decades earlier as a reason why he "had it coming" to get murdered. You do project a lot.

@@stt5v2002 No, Dr. Grande said that he borrowed an enormous amount of money from her mom! $60,000 3:33 -5:30 He was a real piece of work, capable of manipulating all sorts of circumstances and people to fulfill his sense of entitlement.

@@valerieharris2395 that is incorrect. Did you listen to Dr. Grande in the video?

Nothing more dangerous than a narcissist armed with psycho babble

That’s over $14,775 a month in current dollars…wow if that’s correct

Absolutely 💯

Look up Lia Tricomo case out of Seattle

Yeah he groomed and used her when she was a child in a vulnerable state, it's totally possible to me that she maybe saw no other way out from his power, most her life he had been cobtrolling her.

She was literally programmed . this is so very sad .

He was an abuser. She could have left though before he knocked her up not once not twice but 3x! At some point she was okay with getting with the established therapist until the $$$ and perks went away. And as soon as he started playing the divorce game BETTER than her she murdered him. Lol that’s a sore loser for ya.

@@yoshandawilliams6404 yes, there is a lot more evil things not mentioned in the original post. He deserved everything he got. That being said, I do not condone violence or murder. Murdering him is wrong and I don’t agree with it.

@@biblemansings sometimes the victim sails over the edge and when the smoke clears, her tormentor is dead.

I guess leaving his first wife for her was a mistake too.

@ Yoga Dork I hear prisons cells are quiet tranquil.

@@DannyBoy777777 In Norway, yes.

🔥😎👍

She was not only his patient but also and moreover, an underage 15 year old girl when he began raping her.

This comment hit every single last nail on the head! Bravo!

“The first wife got out just in time.” 20 years later…

@@TheDweeb002 Yeah.🙁

I agree. Any person who takes the Hippocratic Oath - an oath taken by physicians to uphold specific medical standards - and then turns around and misuses their authority deserves everything that they have coming to them.

Not every parent are mature enough to see things from a protective perspective

@@aubreybryan5332 what the hell are you talking about. He was her therapist and forced her to marry him.

Absolutely! Blatant Abuse.

From description, he didn't force her to do anything.

Once he had his grip on her it was like he had taken her from her parents. He used his authority to keep her tied to him as her therapist while isolating her from her loved ones. Eventually, she adapted and thought it must be a consensual relationship. She probably never had much of a chance to date boys her age. He victimized her in the worst way. He kept trying to control her. I think she couldn't take it anymore.

sad as hell. it is a shame they brought kids into that mess. but felix was a pedo narc sociopath. no one cares hes dead.

@Pat Luxor Your comment doesn’t even make sense. Are you a twelve year old?

@Pat Luxor Your comment is totally unnecessary and only indicative of your own poor personality.

@@Schiffon whereas calling a cold-blooded murderer a 'victim' is the sign of what, a healthy personality!? You all look like idiots to me haha

Here in Australia they get a slap on the wrist and told to behave themselves.

Because men hate women and want to punish us

Trust doctors! Trust the science! Trust Dr. Fauci! Doctors are Gods among men!

@@skiprockjr.6881 You're delusional for trying to connect this to COVID conspiracy shit

@@skiprockjr.6881 Lol.

THAT'S VERY VERY TRUE!!!! That goes hand in hand with the old saying when someone shows you their true colors, believe them the first time. If someone is willing to start out a relationship by immediately crossing boundaries and not respecting the other person's boundaries, that only means that they're going to continue to push further and further past your boundaries until you've completely given in and giving up on keeping any boundaries set!

As a huge fan and subscriber of Dr. Grande, I personally thank you for that donation and your kind words. Cheers from Vegas!

@@EarlSmith2469 That’s very kind of you.☺️ Also, I wanted to say that I LOVE your banner! That’s one of my favorite paintings!🥰💯 I had that painting as a wallpaper in my computer for years.💕

@@annalisegiovanni7032 That’s a great saying, “believe them the first time.” I couldn’t agree more. Unfortunately people take too many chances in their romantic life.😕

@@rejaneoliveira5019 ~That's a fact! It's a very unfortunate fact that that. Oftentimes people have absolutely zero problem showing their true colors shining bright as could be and it ends up in a situation where someone ends up losing their life....

VERY interesting take...hummm 🤔

If you worked for the school district, isn't the behaviour of the children confidential information?

@@karenking5357 my thoughts exactly. Very very sad.

@@TheDeepWW I did not work there at the time the boys went to school, but the stories were heard. Their behavioral problems have been well publicized in the various books written about this sad story.

Not to mwntion, there is no school employee-student confidentiality. Medical information is protected, and there are various protected types of communication (spouse, lawyer, religious, etc.), but if I'm a teacher, I'm fully allowed to go on TV and say whatever factual information I want about my students. I'd only be bound by slander rules as long as I'm not giving out protected health information. In reality, I'm not a teacher, so I'm not going on TV for anything related to that 🤪

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So sorry love. Hope you found your feet

OMG 😳

Same with me! I told them (Doctors) to F off and left!

So were you ever able to find out if your ex hurt you? And if you eventually discovered that he did, did that help you get a better settlement?

I agree Julie, don't burn out Dr. Grande!

One take videos ... prep work film it .. he can do 7 vids in one day easy but does maybe three days of work for a weeks worth

@@al1040 I didn’t realize he has a chronic disability. I’ve only been following Dr G for around 6 months, maybe a bit longer. I’m not saying he doesn’t look good though, I’m just amazed at how often he works to put out daily videos.

the 900k or 800k subscriber video he talks about his process for creating and how often he works. pretty enlightening if you're into this channel

@@user-dl3lm8vt2j thank you, I’ll check it out. I appreciate it.

So you condone executions without trial, welcome to Germany 1939. By the way, 2 of her 3 sons testified against her.

You're just describing your own feelings. What possible significance could they have?

@@maxmeier532 Yes, let's not condone what she did, but even if her sons testified against her, that doesn't mean that they did not suffer to be raised on such unhealthy relationship, especially from their father's side.

@@maxmeier532 The whole “innocent till proven guilty”or “execution without trial” doesn’t really apply when a victim murders their abuser. They know they’re guilty and therefore there’s no risk of killing an innocent person. That being said, we should always take the claims of killers with a grain of salt.

Sadly difference between what is morally right and legally right, yes it's hard to hear, but both need proof, and if you cannot prove things, as much as I'd agree with the original statement, wholeheartedly, anarchy is also not a social positive, since we cannot see the truth in people's brains.

That is where I confused also. My mom would have buried the skeevie bastard.

She should have reported him to the licensing board, but maybe they were in a state where the age of consent is lower or something.

@@enjoyslearningandtravel7957 it’s breaking their code of ethics, you’d get your license taken away for that, indeed. Regardless of age.

@@enjoyslearningandtravel7957 yea even if she's of age it'd be an ethical violation.

@@enjoyslearningandtravel7957 it's apparently documented that he was at times suicidal, depressed, unable to have healthy relationships and bonds and just in general mentally unstable. So it's not as surprising perhaps that he wasnt able to adhere to an ethical or professional code.

I agree. He had it coming to him. Anyone who kills a sex predator has done the world a favour.

@@sharonjensen3016 yep

Extremely well put! I agree 100%

Well, I blamed her mother who knew from Susan herself that the therapist was sexually taking advantage of her and therefore was abusing his position of trust but did NOTHING! She just called him to express her dissatisfaction and tell him to stop sleeping with her daughter. That's it? You don't report him ? You don't prevent your daughter from going back to that counselor? Her complacency is staggering and her attitude as a parent rather irresponsible.

@@deniseshore9637 You may be right !

When the authorities won't do anything to stop predators, what choice is there but to play judge and jury?

How could you possibly know whether she saw another way out?

Seems she went into flight or fight mode. She divorced him but he was still allowed to stay in the home . So sad when I think of the years of fear .

Sure, if it’s “found.” If you think this isn’t still happening you’re naive.

My cousin committed suicide in the 1992 at the age of 32. Her family was not able to prove it but it was highly suspected that she had an affair with her psychiatrist. If that were true, it really makes you wonder about that doctor. She was quite ill and he took advantage. You wonder what would be the motive/satisfaction?

@@peggypeggy4137 I am so sorry for your loss.

@@PaganGrace Thank you.

Actually if you go to a lot of survivor circles, Susan's story is still pretty common. The issue is a lot of boards' don't listen to survivors and rarely act unless they have another therapist willing to advocate for them or if the media picks up on them.

@@vl4394 okay

@@LDiamondz Yep. My own ancestors on one side were Sephardim, but that doesn't change the facts. Such fixations within that group are not an outlier. I am convinced there is a genetic predisposition towards a certain clustering in trauma response.

@@vl4394 Really? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that. As soon as Dr.Grande said he had desires for his sister, I knew this case was going to get really ugly. I was wondering why you said he was Jewish and nothing more. Thanks for the information. 👍

He is more dependable than Uber Eats !

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@@annalisegiovanni7032 Hope you had good weekend as well.

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It’s my go to for sure

Dr. grande is going to break out in the main stream television I’m sure

Yeah poor wittle murderer.

She had many chances before the last which was murder. She could not have gotten involved with a married man in the first place. People give to many excuses for minor girls that defy their parents advise. Looks like the girls have all the rights in the world only because they are minor. More responsibility needs to be given to minors as they approach the age of consent. It is illogical to think that a day before the 18th birthday one has no responsibility at all and in 24 hours is an adult fully responsible. In my opinion both got what they deserved.

@@ioanaanaoi8232 I would watch you around kids and teenagers! That being said, your last statement is correct. That's why older men and women should not date teenagers. Which is what 18 and 19year olds are! The human brain is not fully developed until the age of 25.

@@ioanaanaoi8232 I will think more of this idea in a general sense. It is logical. There have been cases where minors are tried as adults. For example, in cases of teens committing premeditative murder. However, I am not in agreement in this case (for reasons mentioned in my earlier comment).

@@ioanaanaoi8232He was her therapist. He used his position to manipulate her.

@@Blissfulnessence if she was his only underage female client I would agree that he bears the full responsibility to manipulate her. It is obvious that he had many other underage female clients that were not inclined to have sexual relationship with him. She bears some responsibility for what she got into. Playing with fire you get burned. My point is she's not a victim that had murder as the only option. My previous comment was regarding giving her credit for the crime as it was her only option.

In complicated cases I'd be inclined for a JUDGE trial. A jury trial is a CHOICE for the defendant, and not always a good one. AND she "defended" herself? No. Not recommended.

He's not the first authority figure to take advantage of someone younger and more vulnerable, nor will he be the last. It's still going on, and those who know stand by and do nothing to stop it.

I heard that story too but I thought the victim was a probation officer. Horrible for the woman's boyfriend.

I'm probably missing something. What part is the boundary the murdered therapist crossed? Taking a phone call during session?

@@deborahsunflower939 Yes

@@deborahsunflower939 Yes.With a psychotic person in the room

@@albertarose6821 As I recall it was a social worker. I had just finished my social work degree so it stood out to me. I think her first name was Robin.

I don't remember that. That point alone was evidence that should have screamed. Funny how what she came in to therapy with doesn't get mentioned. Polk was a specialist.

He should’ve just give it to her everything she wanted, but he played her the same way he played his first wife. He is responsible for his own death, she was the monster he created. Sad case.

I don't blame her. Do you

Looks like a sad picnic blanket

@@woadxqueen666 what? yall are wack as hell. gingham is really popular rn

Someday you`ll be banned from Twitter for this racist comment!

What even is this comment?

While respecting his wardrobe boundaries, your comment is quite funny!

Wow! You were 13 and he wasn’t a minor? Seems totally inappropriate like a grooming kind of relationship, I hope he has matured and the relationship is healthy now. I could see how there is resentment.

I guess all those girls when I was in high school bragging about their 20 year old boyfriends are victims now, pathetic

“Although he didn’t have bad intentions, I think back to my 15 year old self and sometimes feel angry” There’s a confession there somewhere. Hope you find peace

@@danparish1344Before my Dad was a Christian, he attempted to marry me off to this one specific man who was 21 and actually my father's boss that's a long story of why my father wasn't lost but he really admired this young man and thought he'd make a good husband for me which he thought I needed an older man he comes from a family of 13 being the youngest of 13 siblings the last five kids are the only ones that survived so I'm 71 meaning that two of those five were girls and they both married three times the first marriage they were 13 only they were I don't use the word forced but encouraged to get married and their third husbands were extremely successful cause you know they fortunately had common sense they just were kids when it all started ended up with oh my gosh success in every way they were stay at home wives but your husband had good success they had lots of kids grandchildren great-grandchildren and eventually everybody got into church I'm a family because we come from a long line of I'm just preachers from 1640 from Wales. MANY thru the "centuries!" this is the way country Pope thought if you come from Kentucky and Tennessee you didn't mess with your sister but you definitely got married young you know how to family I was actually picked on because I did not want to get married at age 20 by this time my father is associate pastor had was actually in the middle of attending seminary in Dallas-Fort Worth area... but my sister married at 16 and nobody understood why I wasn't married first and honestly I had many proposals and I'm not bragging because all I live was very unhappy most of my adult life several divorces I didn't grow up till much later in life always looking to appease my father from a distance I always wanted his approval but the only thing is I never did want to get married part of that was because I should say I did not want to get married young I'm talking about even 20 was too young for me but when you have the opportunity to date a lot of guys then you start wanting a different flavor and I was a virgin when I got married so it wasn't like I was as wild thing but I just couldn't settle for you know a good person and there were many that crossed my paths there was one person I wanted to marry when I was 16 that I had left up in Ohio when we moved to Texas for Dad to attend Seminary but my father wouldn't let me marry him at the time because he wasn't a Baptist I know ridiculous but somehow I ended up marrying the bad guys I'm not trying to air my dirty laundry I'm saying depends on your generation but there still are those I should say most of them have passed on a lot of them wanted their children to marry young and have lots of kids.... and I'm very sorry that she endured so much and again there's no rhyme no reason for murder except for self-defense and then that is not even considered murder in Scripture I know it's crazy but I just thought I would share to you another real life story that's similar in the because I got myself into those bad situations of a very manipulative narcissist who one of them the strongest of all my husband's meaning emotionally stronger really use my Christianity against me yet he married me because I was a Christian too further his own career as family had bookous of money here in Texas family business that's extremely well known but I could only handle 4 years of marriage and two of them we didn't even live together to the four years and even though we own five houses and three sailboats I ended up with none of that when we got divorced it gave me a mere $20,000 in $10,000 increments so a month apart I got a I never even got to keep my wedding ring so he literally came up to the office where I worked on a day he know the doctor wasn't there and I was the only one in the office and he fought me for my wedding ring until he got that ring off my finger and he was 6'4 and I'm five four yeah crazy stuff happens and who knows what have happened if I could have even withstood living with him like for years anyway it was my life story then LOL

@@sbFreakinxRican oh yeah! And we have 2 daughters ,21 and 14....so when he looks at our children...it hits him... And I have found peace..we both have..and I know that even without words. He's acknowledged the error.

Exactly.

When was he ever "useful" to her? He groomed and manipulated a teenager, essentially molded her into the woman he wanted her to be, then married her.

In US it’s illegal to benefit from a crime

@@Dulcimertunes I don't know if it's true but wasn't there the father who killed the rapist of his 4 years old daughter and faces little charges or no charges? I believe it was in the US..

Athena, sorry you had to go through that.

As if that would work.

lol. Same here!

No, please, let him be free over here. Once you go to tv you lose yourself. Dr. Phil is an example, after couple years Dr Phil only though about money and views, horrible, horrible. I watched probably two or three years, could not take more, and I didn’t watched everyday.

lol. We'd all think he lost his mind, if he did that! Funny idea, though. 🤣

@@LDiamondz good april fools joke

Probably didn't have any poison on hand.

Her case is most for a series, I suppose. The whole family actually had some issues.