Therapist Reacts to TWILIGHT: ECLIPSE (Part 1/2) 

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Turns out, a lot of things are just pieces of paper when you think of it

this comment needs to be closer to the top.

@@gufosufo337 like a quality screenplay?

😂😂😂

Accurate

Team Charlie 😏

Nailed it LOL

Team CHARLIE ❤️

Seriously? All writers try to manipulate the reader's feelings, but literally trying to FORCE fans to like a character is pathetic.

Book Charlie is so based for that

So you're telling me that my favourite character from this cursed movie series doesn't actually have the only big flaw he has (that I can remember) in the original source material? Yeah okay, Charlie stays as the best character.

Now idk who I wanna marry Book Charlie or Movie Charlie

Yeah Book Charlie is who I wanna marry

Thank god there is at least one canon version of Charlie I can side with

Accurate, haha!

i watch it only cause i think the implications of the vampire lore are semi interesting. practically indestructible immortal all that. the idea of humans figuring out how to take care of them. its literally cause the actions scenes are entertaining to me. some fo the abilities are kinda unique. i dont watch it for the relationships by any means. probably the closest to healthy relationship in that is carlisle and esme

@@serenaleahy-higgins3 I do it for the werewolves lore! Wolves genes that are active when there's danger close, but go dormant in times of peace is really interesting.

wow and yes

Wow, so true!

I hate how funny I found this

A jellyfish probably has more personality than her😂

🎶 _Do you ever feel like a plastic bag_ 🎶

Do you watch Domonic Noble by chance?

This this is so accurate lmao

The way you put it makes it quite funny xD I think it's possible, though. ***WARNING*** If you're in a bad phase and struggling with depression, this is a summary of my personal experience: feel free to skip it and read another comment If you're not interested. I was so depressed for so many reasons from age 15 to 24 I tried to kill myself twice, with knives and then with meds. But before I started to think suicide was an option (spoiler: it's not, and it took me years to realize I was more than the poor, little, shy sexually harrassed bookworm I thought I was), I experienced severe depression. I really used to scream in bed like Bella did, because the physical pain that came with my growing anxiety and sadness was so intense I couldn't bear it anymore and it was the only way for me to deal with it. The only reason I didn't go totally crazy was because at some point in time I had to work so hard I couldn't think of my problems all the time. I had to focus on my homework and my degrees, in case I recovered. And it helped me. In the books Bella is dedicated to her homework because it helps her dealing with her broken mind. The movies don't show that though x)

American public school system

there are two type of answers:

@@neon-ii2gz Oops --- sorry xD

@@katewalters210 not to be insensitive or anything but trauma-dumping on someone who was just making a joke about bella not doing anything for school is kinda not okay :( like, i suffer from the same things that you do and if i had read your comment when i was in a bad mental space i would've gotten triggered so hard the way you went into detail about everything. really sorry for what happened to you, i hope ur in a better place now!!!

It's why I love new moon so much. Also why I really think she should've chosen Jacob.

​@@lollybirdyearly Jacob, yes. The rest of him? No

I never read the books or watched the movies, but I love these reaction movies. Part of me wonders if Jacob suddenly starts acting like Edward in some unconscious way to force the "imprinting" on Bella, like he can try to become what she wants, which is Edward. Of course, I don't know that the thoughts behind it went that far.

​@@nikolefinger1747that'd be pretty clever but I don't think meyer is capable of that kind of intelligent character writing

Correct. 2 words: CHARACTER ASSASSINATION

I'm into DMC 5 😀

@@OmniArchbishop”BURY THE LIGHT DEPTH In WITHIIIIIIN!”

I am all here for lumberjack bella!! Bi Mommy Lumberjack is forever here to stay. I can never unsee it

the shade is undeniable!

Tied for my favourite line with (the constitution) "is the way one says i love you" 😂😂😂😂

I think that is officially the best burn of 2021

She’s a lumberjack and it’s okay.

No it not..Read the books people!!!its treated as creepy and he apologizes for all his creepy a$$ behaviour and NEVER DKES IT AGAIN

@@doesntmatter340 if it was truly treated as creepy there would be more repercussions than her closing her window for a night. And yes, i read the books when they came out and i nearly throw the book through a window when i read about him f up her car to force her to stay at home. What annoyed me even more was that she didn't ask her dad to drive her to la push and instead stayed home like Edweird wanted and like i said, the repercussions for what he did were NOTHING compared to the severity of his actions. Also, Edward never really changed his ways, only instead of breaking her car, he used Alice to manipulate Bella and always keep her busy to keep her where he wanted her. She had to be sneaky to get away from them

"Romantic gesture" yeah more like psycho controlling freak

@@doesntmatter340 it doesn't matter he never "does it again". If the narrative doesn't show negative repercussions for his actions, then the narrative is endorsing this behavior. The narrative frames it as romantic because the author thought it would be romantic; however, if you have a partner in real life who sabotages your car to stop you from visiting your friends, you have to get help because your life could potentially be in danger.

@@Ysmir. I agree. When I was done reading this pile of crap I turned it into a literal flaming pile of crap by throwing each book into the fireplace. I love books. This would have killed me if I was forced to do this. The truck thing is ABSOLUTELY a horror movie staple. And in this we're suppose to believe Eddy never does this type of behavior again? Perhaps someone needs to read the book again.

I'm actually starting to get a bit worried of Stephanie Meyer. Like ma'am, are you okay?

I seriously do not understand Lindsay Ellis’ video defending this franchise and literally apologising for Stephanie Meyer for the hate this movie franchise got because this is just horrible.

​@@GuineaPigEverydaybecause as much as there are valid things to critique in this franchise, the hype (both positive and negative) that surrounded it initially was too big. The apology video was made for all the misguided hate Meyers received during the hype of Twilight not the valid criticisms.

“Age is just a number” is the dumbest excuse here

I mean I think they could've went with the whole 'forever teenage brain' and not be as creepy if Edward actually acted like a teenager lmao

​@@Overseer2579I'm late but you'll see that skin crawling excuse in most Asian age gap couple it's sickening

and .45 is just caliber

``And marriage is just a piece of paper`` -- Bella ``Garbage person`` Swan

Haha, this commentary is making me laugh harder than this movie!

The follow-up was great, too: Edward: No, it's a way of saying I love you. Alan: So is the constitution where I'm from.

That one got me as well 😂😂😂

Was gonna comment about this but this was the first comment I saw so thanks LOL

Nick Cage gas entered the chat

Yeah, that would be way better!

I’ve always believed Charlie should’ve had a bigger role than he got, he had all the best moments and frankly would’ve made a far more engaging MC than Bella (not that she ever held the bar high…). Local police chief learns the town Doctor is a vampire and goes hunting with his best friend leader of the indigenous werewolf pack would’ve been hella cool. Actual stakes then

Or even if they wanted to keep the teenage girl protagonist, go for someone like Anna Kendrick's character (Jessica?) meeting preferably non-former-confederate Jasper, or better yet Alice. They'd get on like a house on fire and it would be more fun to watch.

@@MortMe0430 Listen, the spin-off from one of the young's vampire POV was better than Twiglight in my memories, so any character is better.

I saw that same post! And having to clean up the messes from their emotionally broken children!

crying laughing I hope? 😆

Sea chickens

I think he said "hi" once.

Absolutely!

@@kohakuaiko OH MY GANACHE!!! Love that.

Well it is kinda tainted by the posessivenes that shines through there...

@@ToabyToastbrot well he IS going full Heathcliff there, so...

That's really sweet, I wish more people could be like him

I actually like it if a guy asks permission to kiss a girl because to me that shows respect.

Consent is hella attractive

I actually ask women I date this too. I know what its like to be touched without consent personally so I wont put anyone through that.

That is so sweet!!!

…. Ew what the hell? As if there werent enough awful characters I cant stand the author steps in too.

💯

I love this response. I might be getting there now after recovering from a potentially abusive relationship.

Not possible...... You need emotions to be an emotional eater

Yeah, what else does he need a pantry full of food for, just something to admire and stare at?

@@donaldlang1871 that's why he doesn't have emotions - he eats them

And I dont think it's even a secret

a recipe for disaster, if I ever saw one...

I want to see John go off for hours on all of it.

I would gladly watch hours of Jonathan going off about imprinting. Maybe a special video after the last movie?

I´d be down

You’re not.

I'd watch it

Someone pointed in the last video that Jacob and Edward should be a couple. And they explained why and it makes so much sense. Futhermore, Charlie should be the main character

Same! They're hilarious XD

This was exactly why I was coming to comment. To add mad props to whomever was in charge of the captions!!!

“Wolfy: ‘I’ve come to warn you’”😂😂

And see, I'd high-five my daughter for punching him and THEN tell him to leave before I finish what she started. Gotta be supportive of her independence, y'know?

I never understood how Charlie was so bleh about that in the movies, and in the books he actually laughed it off. Like, wth

When you hear my shotgun chamber a round, you have precisely until the count of three before you lose your head

Lol in the Bad Lip Reading version of this that kiss they kept Bella's original groans and it was hilarious

EXACTLY!!! I would've offered my child a bat, not be like, "oH gOoD jOb, JaCoB!" No!! As a parent I'd be flipping out, that boy would never step foot near my child again.

Yeah, to an average viewer, they look real pretty. I still didn’t see how bad they looked even after Alan pointed it out 😂. It’s really cool you worked at a flower nursery though! Gives me the image of flowers in rolling bassinets wrapped in pastel swaddles.

@@esanchez1906 My goodness, that imagery is adorable! 🤣 But instead of bassinets and blankets, the little baby seedlings were swaddled into variously sized pot trays.

same with Bella and Edward in the flower field

This is the only way I'm watching any of Twilight - through internet personalities breaking it down and tearing it up. Btw - "internet Dads" - I love it and it feels true! I learn so much from them!

I’ve been watching the movies recently for the express purpose of having full context when Cinema Therapy reviews them. 100% worth it.

I was never a fan of Twilight myself, but, I had a burning hatred for the series when it first started getting big, because of something between my mother and I at the time. I wanted to become a writer, and my mom supported me, but kept getting frustrated because I wasn't making progress/couldn't get anything written (due to a combination of just being too busy with college/life, and because I always have trouble with plots. I can and love to do extensive worldbuilding and character design and development, but I just can't figure out anything for them to DO.), and, with her not being a writer or ever trying to write herself, the constant critism, unwanted advice (from an unqualified source), and her pushing and having a "stop being lazy and just DO it" attitude about my writing was really grating (she's a fantastic mom, don't get me wrong, this was just one time/place where she really fumbled, as parents do. It just happens). But what REALLY pushed me over the edge was when she trotted out Twilight's success. "Stephanie Meyers wrote her book in just 3 months!" Me, firing back: "Yeah, and that book was TWILIGHT!" And she just generally couldn't understand why I would get so upset at that...until she started watching the movies (my mom is a "completionist watcher," if she starts a movie or movie series, she HAS to finish it, to "see where it goes," even if she hates it). She has never brought up the comparison since, and stopped the negative behavior after that, and subtly acknowledged the horrendous writing. So, even today, seeing people humorously rip it to shreds still feels a bit like vindication, lol.

"Internet Dads" : I love it !!! ^^

@@AnInsideJoke Dude, I'm in a similar place with my writing. I have a basic concept of the plot and what the ending will be. Its just filling it all in in a compelling way that's got me stuck. Beginning and end: done. Middle: all a blur.

Why would they do that? I mean there aren't that many scenes with him and he's not that important and they already commented on him enough. He's not the best dad ever. He's making some bad mistakes when it comes to Jacob/Bella. But overall he's a great dad. And I couldn't agree more with Cinema Therapy on this! He's really great but not the best/not perfect.

I feel bad for Taylor Lautner because he actually has really good comedy chops but he was grossly underutilized in these movies and they basically ruined his reputation as "weren't you that werewolf in those horrible Twilight movies?". He's actually a really funny guy!

The only times I would be crying in this movies is everytime Bella is breaking Charlies Heart. Gosh, he does not deserve that!

If Edward and Jacob laid one hair on Charlie in that scene, it shows incredible restraint, respect, and probably a touch of fear on Bella's behalf.

no srsly… but let’s be honest with ourselves here Charlie is the most mentally stable character with a decent amount of screen time in these movies

EXACTLY! In conclusion they all suck

There is a fine line between giving advice because you care about them and being controlling.

😂😂😂

😬😬😬😬 yeaaaaaaaaaah

Pretty much

The author should’ve been in custody, not on the best sellers list

Not necessarily. At least if the imprint is on someone of age or older. But there are several points in the story of which the characters that have been imprinted on are under age, of which then yes it is grooming.

Talk about being in a relationship with him thinking that you're the one That's going to change him. (Looks at Bella)

The best part is that Johnathan is genuinely disgusted at the end of that!

An awkward contented kiss is far better than a forced one.

@@gentlemanlygeeky4088 Absolutely

That's a really sweet story 🥰

@@g.d.graham2446honestly that awkwardness makes it more endearing, and more heartwarming. Rather than the sort of awkwardness, or worse, can happen with unprompted without-consent encounters. You’ll always be able to look back on it better knowing u did the right thing rather than feeling doubt about it. Thats how i think at least, i have no idea how i’d do it im in my masters and still not there

That’s such a cute story

Assault in the third degree, according to the law (in case you ever need to back that claim up with an emotionless point)

Ehh that’s a really weak excuse for an assault. I’m glad not everyone thinks that way. Nothing wrong with going 100% after reading a situation correctly. Some people prefer that

@@5673hfueb you do realise that consent doesn't always have to be vigorous nodding or actually saying "yes"? Obviously if you read the situation correctly go for it, but this definitely couldn't have been read as consent especially as she actively tries to push back. Jesus

@@5673hfueb erm a correctly read situation means there was consent. Consent isn't the same as needing a signed document or something.

@@5673hfueb you never go 100%. That is assault. You go SOME amount of per cent the other person goes the rest.

The one time I actually laughed out loud rather then a chuckle from their other comments 😂

absolutely, and I'm a guy. My first kiss, I asked the guy if he wanted to kiss, and that worked out just fine

And if they disrespect that boundary, get the authoritiesinvolved. At this point, they have shown they do NOT care how you feel and only about themselves and are very dangerous.

The way you explain it is a lot better than other comment. So in principle if someone goes in for a kiss, and you say no, and he backs away, that its alright even if very awkward, but that its clear that no harm has been done because he saw there was no mutual feeling in that moment and just retracted it and respected your boundaries. I just hadn’t seen it mentioned the huge difference between someone going in for a kiss and retracting it, which is awkward but not harassment, VS someone going in for a kiss and trying to continue it without consent which is sexual harassment. Becuz idk it scares me a lot the idea that i could read signals wrong and go in for a kiss, but backing away when they don’t respond, but that still hurting someone’s feelings. I have zero experience i just see super mixed signals here that a lot of ppl apparently find asking for consent unromantic and whatnot, and the cliche that only men take the initiative or first step, which i dont understand why ppl still accept this? Why shouldn’t it be the standard for women to make the first movie in terms of kissing or whatnot, the world would be a lot better that way

I can only speak for myself on this one, but i find it very charming and attractive when a guy asks if he can kiss me or indirectly express his desire to do so. And of course, if my feeling is mutual a kiss will happen. However, if not I will decline and tell him honestly in a regular tone why. Had the role been switch, and I am the one who would like to initiate the kiss, i would do the same as mentioned above. I will either, explicitly show my desire to kiss the other person or ask them honestly. And if he declines, then that's that...there's no need to fear awkwardness, we're only human after all.@@GuineaPigEveryday

a short answer is yes, if you lean in for a kiss and the other person decline and you back away respectfully, then no harm is done. @@GuineaPigEveryday

Oh buddy I feel you. My first boyfriend was like that, and also kissed me without my consent. He expected me to feel happy about it and think it romantic and I played it off as it wasn’t a big deal, but it’s always bothered me. Thankfully, my first kiss with my husband was very sweet and we both consented. I just consider my first kiss to be with my husband instead. Hope you are doing ok!

@@AlethrialTheElvenEmpress yea I had a similar experience, I’m glad your happy with your husband now 😁

Oh yes, i couldn't get past that. The whole I'm gonna be her brother for now but when I'm done grooming her we'll be lovers 🤢

@@Ysmir. and physically she grows really quickly, so is she the age she looks or her actual chronological age?

@@SunnyMorningPancakes the way i see it we are the sum of our life experiences so no matter what she would look like or how intelligent she would be, I'd say her actual chronological age is relevant. Which also leaves the question of when the imprint would change to something romantic and how old mentally she would then actually be...

@@Ysmir. and it really doesn't matter, because the concept is just disgusting. But now I'm thinking is it 16ish when teenagers fall in love? Because I think the majority of people would agree that their relationships at that age are not good examples of a relationship.

@@SunnyMorningPancakes true, but the idea of this kid being only a few years old with an adult body, probably raging hormones and entering first relationships, even if not with that Jacob guy brings the cringe factor to the next level

Exactly. The whole "Edward is mentally a 17 year old permanently" excuse is just the fangirls justifying Edward's actions because they find him good looking.

In what way is he even good looking?

@@LadyPelikan I mean Robert is a handsome guy but his Edward look was horrible tbh

@@LadyPelikan Right? He looks sickly to me, I've never found Robert attractive lol. Taylor (Jacob) on the other hand, hot ;)

I think this was Meyer's attempt to make the age gap "less creepy," but like, when you're working with immortal creatures, the age gap is just part and parcel of the genre. Honestly, it's never really the difference in age that's a problem in these sorts of relationships, it's the uneven power dynamics. You have a person who has only lived for some teen years and are relatively inexperienced in many things versus a creature who has experienced a few hundred years worth of stuff. The older partner knows more, has seen and done more, learned more. It shouldn't matter whether Edward is 30 or 300-his overwhelming amount of experiences, on top of him being an apex predator, makes their power dynamics very unbalanced. So, trying to "fix things" by saying these older creatures have the brains of their last human moment doesn't address the actual problem.

Nope. You are very wrong. If she didn't love him why the heck did she fly over to Italy to save his ass? Why would she even try to save him a second time from the Volturi and not just ask them to change her? Why did she get depressed when Edward left her? Humans don't just get depressed because they cant get what they want. If she didn't love him why even carry his kid which Edward didn't want because Bella was in so much pain. She could have said: yeah we can abort the child. She loves them! She loves her family! Have you even watched the movies? Edward sacrifices a lot because he loves her too. Yeah he got interested of her because he couldn't hear her thoughts and her blood smelling good even though he left for a while. Even with all of that he started to love her. If he just wanted to eat her why didn't he just kill her? Why even waste your familys time to trick a bunch of vampire hunters and save her from a ballet studio. Time and time again he saves her because he cares about her.

​@@marfa.h3526Okay, twilight fan🙄🙄🙄

That... actually makes a lot of sense.

But that’s not true, because he didn’t imprint on her. The whole weird thing was that he was attracted to an egg in her that hadn’t even been produced yet lol. Then fell in love with a baby, and to keep him from looking more like a pedo, the baby had to turn into an adult in 10 or so years

He didn’t imprint on Bella, but her daughter

He thought he was imprinting on her but really it was her unborn daughter inside her

HAHAHAHA

Considering they're both fathers, I think it may cause them to have strokes.

To shreds, you say?

Worse than shreds. Torn down to sub-atomic and flushed to the other side of the quantum void.

@@LordDrail Their thoughts might cause a Higgs- particle to change it's mind and the universe will collapse. Still not worse than the movies. Edit: Ups, I must have slept in on my phone and activated the comments, otherwise I wouldn't have commented "ürt3" on my own comment....^^ Ugh. This is how mentally exhausting these movies are, even if others "take one for the team" and watch them.....it is still disturbing.

Psychiatrist: "Let's talk about pedophilia..."

Wow your English is pretty good. I wish I can learn a new language😕

​@@xblade149 You can, you need only to believe you can, and also find a good tool or person to teach you.

Also your English is pretty fantastic. Keep it up 😁

I mean honestly a lot of English speakers speak it less well than you do - it’s great! I hope you’re finding kinder people who will be supportive

Tu é brasuka tbm? E aí mana, como tá aí?

To be fair, she's Mormon. As someone who was raised Mormon, and surrounded by Mormons while growing up in Utah, I can absolutely confirm she's not okay.

THANK YOU so much for bringing it up. Also none of his decision are justified by that since most of the outcomes were told to him bc of Alice. Especially when he left bella and Alice told him what would happen. He has no excuse.

I never read the whole book, even though I bought it...... I quickly started to remember all the reasons I hated Edward as a character.... Hence why I like Twilight fanfiction sooo much better!!!! Especially about Jasper and other characters, like some of the wolves.

@@AquilaCat Eeeeeexactly. I thought this stuff was the gold standard to aspire to when I was mormon. *shudder* *barf* I wasn't ok either. I'm so much better now.😊

@@rrosefam we escaped the BS!

I like to call that a retcon to save herself from MYTHOLOGIZING PEDOPHILIA AS THE ROMANTIC IDEAL!!!!

@@CinemaTherapyShow Oh totally, I don’t disagree!

@@CinemaTherapyShow Well Bella is an adolescent so that's definitely not pedophilia. But that doesn't change that the imbalance between them is gross.

@@amurape5497 ephebophilia. Semantics. It's still borderline grooming and extremely possessive and manipulative.

@@hpnut4ever Stephenie Meyer also doesn’t understand a lot of things. Sadly, a person can be more mature than their actual young age by having had too many adult experiences. This is FACT. Brain development isn’t all there is to it. Edward absolutely should have had the maturity of an adult as that’s just plain what happens with adult experiences.

This ✓ I was looking for this comment 🤣 I was like that's BC right there ❤️

20:18

@@kittycat6524 I should take a trip to BC sometime in the future.

Thank you so much!

Hey, some of the series was actually filmed in the US...in Oregon.

I swear, this sounds like the Hinata/Naruhina fans that say Naruto owed their “byakugan princess” for “loving him” for so long. Ignoring the fact the datebooks labeled her as ‘infatuated’ with him instead of ‘in love’ and Hinata really hasn’t done anything for him except stalking him from afar.

@Stumpanelli She only tried to save his life once and she just made things worse by making him go apeshit.

@@firefly5934 ding ding ding! i’ve never seen many people talk about this part of naruto and honestly, it made my day for some reason hahaha

@@firefly5934 Honestly the whole village was already destroyed. I don't know if in that context things could have gone worse unless everybody died.

@@susiem.2068 If it wasn’t for Minato’s failsafe, then that would’ve happened. Kurama was literally telling him to destroy everything and tempting him into releasing the seal; thus setting him free and killing any remaining survivors.

Oh my God that was spot on 😂😂😂

Hahaha yeah but it's so sad only people who know a little about psychology get it xD

i cackled

Ikr!!

Agreed LOL

I always thought they were saying "Mike" never understand why they were saying that but that's what I heard as a kid

Really wish there were three blank lines at the start of this comment. Probably cost me laughter at the same because a surprise is gone since it is the top comment and shows as soon as you open the video.

YES. My first kiss with my current boyfriend was one where he asked for permission first. And it was genuinely one of the most romantic encounters because of it. Three years on and he still asks permission for certain things, and it is super-hot.

Yes! My first kiss with my husband he asked for permission (and then proceeded to hug me first when I said yes). That kiss is probably one of the big reasons I fell so hard for him. We've been together almost 11 years now and I still think about that kiss. :)

Honestly, how you experienced that kiss sounds so romantic. Seeing fireworks makes it even better. You're so lucky. My first kiss was romantic too but damn, yours might take the cake. Haha

@@jtseld5112 Awwwww!!!!!!!

Too cute ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Do vampires have the wood to fall for her? Or are we talking about the stakes now?

@@antalbojtos4413 , Edward is "wooden" (in the adjective sense of stiff, akward, dull, etc) and she's making him fall for her.

@@Hermititis Ohh, that makes sense. Was thinking of an entirely different kind of wood.

@@antalbojtos4413 , funny! Another thing...I'm pretty confident they actually said "tracks" (as in "makes sense, fits, etc"), because they are comparing her to a lumberjack. So if it makes more sense, the quote is, "She's wearing flannel, which tracks, because she's making a piece of wood fall for her."

So yeah, he was a pederast all along.

Reading the last line, I can't help but think of a quote from a show ( which I won't name just in spoilers case ) "I do love your mother but.. she's more like a pet to me"

Further proving the pedo angle and creepiness

@@Nwoknu BRO WTF 💀 NOW IM CURIOUS WHAT SHOW IS THAT I WANT TO KNOW

@@Missyisbored The show/cartoon "Invincible"

OHMYGOD YESSS!!! 🤣

Yes!!

I DIED

“He needs to keep the pantry stocked” 😂

Haha, it's extra hilarious, because it's likely true! 😅😉

Read that as he said it 😂

Idk, it's the last string cheese, I feel like more weapons would be involved

@@drunkpunch7334 probably 😂

How could we ignore that!

You'll be extra glad if you listen to the commentary track while watching _Twilight._ No one hates that movie more than the people who were in it. Especially Robert Pattinson.

Same lol. It's like FINALLY I CAN SHARE MY HATRED lmfaooo

@@Kiss_My_Aspergers I heard R.Pats eviscerates the films in his DVD Commentary, love the cheekiness.

@@elizabethbetts3834 *eviscerates - but yes!! It is amazing.

Bad examples are good in their way. They tell us what not to do

I mean, Ron's better than either of those guys.

Now I kinda wanna read a Twilight x Harry Potter crossover...

@@annarose2714 I disagree.

@@breezymango4113 welp, I agree, Ron didn't stalk people and didn't kiss anyone without their permition. Not to mention he learns to be a better person (like when he cared about house elves during the Battle of Hogwarts, asked Hermione for a dance in the last book instead of watching her dance with Krum and getting jealous (sadly, movie makers hate Ron so it's not even among deleted scenes).

@@_Juliette_00 yeah I heard one one of the writing directors was a Hermione fan and shipped Hermione. God I hate how Ron was undersold. My movie only fan friend hated Ron. And then I got her to read ONE HP book and her favourite character is Ron. Just goes to show how much damage the movies did. Edited for grammar .

Facts haha 😂

Agreed!

Jonathan’s commentary is top-tier

I picked up on the Mormon mentality immediately when watching this. I am astounded they made a movie blatantly promoting religious beliefs. On top of inadvertently or advertently telling young girls this type of abuse is acceptable let alone something to aspire to.

He's basically saying "I'll make her want me" and doesn't even care what she wants.

Well, now she seems to have grown to a normal spoon or a fork, since she seems to rebel against their abuse a bit

Nah. A teaspoon has depth.

Lol don't insult my boy Ron like that....

Because Bella is a fictional version of Meyer and Twilight is just her pathetic fantasy about being fought over by 2 guys.

It’s the flip of the incel thing to be honest. It’s in most of the romance novels too (shades of gray etc) normal boring-as-paint woman just stumbles around and super rich mysterious man instantly falls for her because “she’s not like other girls”.

I cannot XDD

Oh, just wait. I can already hear the sheer disappointment coming from these two when they review the final dual movie (Breaking Dawn Part 2 specifically) on the subject of imprinting.

I've read so many stories that have true soul mates that honestly the imprinting didn't bother me. Although in those, the bond doesn't usually occur until they both come of age.

@@chadfalardeau5396 My problem with imprinting really isn't the ages. I mean, yeah, it's weird that Jake imprinted on an infant, and it's kinda messed up that (in the movies anyway) he immediately pictured her as an adult. But my biggest problem is that it's not a consensual bonding. A wolf imprints against their will, even if they're already with someone. The person they imprint on basically has no choice. They'll either fall in love with the wolf, or have to deal with an overprotective guard dog forever. There's no choices.

It's basically the same thing as "soul mates", and by its nature it conflicts with concepts like destiny and free will. It would have been interesting to explore that aspect of imprinting and see how it affects the characters and their choices, if done right.

@@singingwolf8997 I haven't read all of the books or watched all of the movies,, but I have a question. If the wolf imprinted on someone and that person rejected the wolf and decided to be with someone else, the wolf has no choice but to stick with that said person even though they rejected the wolf and is with someone else, right?

So Bella is an anime protagonist

He's a relationship therapist. How many people do you think he had to treat precisely because they'd modelled their idea of perfect love on Twilight? (That's a rhetorical question.) That movie isn't just bad, it's outright dangerous as it pushes young, impressionable people straight into hands of narcissists, gaslighters, domestic tyrants, and other creeps (as only such people behave like Edward or Jacob IRL). Any psychologist worth their money would burn this franchise on a stake.

I hate it too

@@Mordring what they said

I know right? Back when I was a kid, I modelled my relationships (ya know, middle school crushes, around 13-14y/o, very innocent first love) after this! I was possessive and obsessive and only when I was 17 realised how wrong and toxic I was. Now I am in a good and healthy relationship and I’m genuinely happy

Imagine how many teenagers end up idolizing this relationship because of the lack of understanding and critical thinking 😬

Exactly, I realise now I was team Edward for all the wrong reasons! Not that there's many right ones to be honest lol - i feel it also makes us underestimate our worth within the relationships we have and our self worth, having relationships like this to look up to when we're all young and don't know any better.

You never really do we dont fully develop until 25/26. We dont know any better before that mainly because at around a young age we try to find out what love is for us. Especially since we dont know what it actually is; you have to also remember that because of still developing young people are very impressionable. That's why its illegal to date or have sex(there are other factors) with young people, you can teach or groom them into whatever you want(like a fresh canvas or clay) and they wont know any better. This isnt to say that they dont know anything, it's just all that's around them is media and the small group of people, so most dont have practical life experience to know any better. Its also why its sometimes dangerous to consume certain media a certain age until you are ready to do so.

yaknow what that’s called? ✨growth✨

I love the idea of using Jono for Jonathon, thank u for this gift

@@giggabiite4417 he mentioned in one video that his stepson called him something like that, and I felt so awkward referring to him as Doctor or Jonathan since my cousin and two of my best friends are named Jonathan. XD

Some twilight scenes are just memes aren't they?

@@user-te7ws5sz1f All twilight scenes are just memes. Books, movies, anything. It's like Shrek, but bad.

I can't remember if, in the books, if Charlie obviously should have known that the kiss was noncon?

@@ChinSunnieEven fucking Shrek has better character development than Twilight.

@@later.4802 Twiligh has no characters/personalities, so that would be hard, they are just lumbering cliche's of fictional characters.

like hes maybe mirroring what shes going after...i mean it doesnt make sense any other way...he tried sweet and kind and said FUCK IT

Worked for Edward 🤷‍♀️

@@lulubellpop13 ik Jacob imprinted on Razmatazz, but if we have to go back to the time that movie came out, was he trying to imprint on her??? like the imprinter becomes what the target wants?