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There is a secret hiding inside Blackmagic Camera that you may have not considered yet. Join us on this video as we break into BMD's facility and uncover the truth! Real actual technical content after the skit 👀
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0:00 Mission: Blackmagic
1:42 What's one thing you hear people ask about for Blackmagic?
1:58 Internal Stabilization
2:15 Horizon Meter
2:23 Handy Blackmagic manuals & Motion Calibration
3:26 What does this have to do with internal stabilization?
3:40 Sony and Go Pro offering this already
4:16 What is Gyroscopic Data?
5:03 Can BMD do this? Well, I emailed them about it.
5:33 Blackmagic Forums
6:20 Updating Davinci Resolve to read Gyro data?
7:19 What's the catch? Is it too good to be true?
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@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

What do you guys think about Gyroscopic data and the possibility of BMD adding it in for future updates? Also, be sure to Join our Discord Channel💬 ► discord.gg/3aeNPU7GHu

@sobadaham 2 года назад

I feel a surprise announcement from blackmagic on stabilization

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

@@sobadaham Would be something if we could get that!

@kurtnelle 2 года назад

Black Magic is a bunch of software engineers. They may have the thing already in the BRAW and supported in Resolve and just need to turn it on. It may have been turned off because somebody somewhere may have a soon to expire patent and Black Magic ain't paying dem royalties for a software feature.

@billyoung9538 2 года назад

the crucial thing most people don't grasp with Gyro stabilization is that it requires a high shutter speed or low shutter angle; however, that isn't necessarily a bad thing, because something that hasn't been talked about a whole lot is how this same gyro motion data can also be used to create motion vectors that can add post adjustable camera motion blur. The only remaining factor is object motion, and there are many existing techniques for doing edge based motion vectors that when combined with the camera motion vectors can give one a very convincing post motion blur. In fact it's easier to do this as a computational photography post effect than most of the artificial depth of field effects done by most phones, because in this case we are after soft blurred edges in most situations.

@lipcsey 2 года назад

This would change the game for me... Such upgrade could more than make up for not having an IBIS which some people miss quite a bit. Yes I know the reasons for that but this could take the product line to new heights if marketed right.

@ElusiveFrame 2 года назад

I wish my parents read me some blackmagic manual before bed. The stories are 12 bit rich and beautiful in their rawness.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

hahaha that's a good line right there! 😂😂😂

@CNC-Time-Lapse Год назад

Man, I am learning so much from all these older videos. Thanks for making these, John.

@salawuoluwasegun3754 Год назад

Update: Blackmagic listened and did add this feature. Thanks to people like you for that

@DeadDonkeyProductions 2 года назад

I think its already being lowkey implemented, you can stabilize moving footage without a gimbal really really well in Davinci using image Stabilization.

@ozzythemighty2767 2 года назад

Your always coming with the best subjects when it comes to the pocket4/6k . Thq & keep em coming.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

haha thanks! Starting to really have to dig deep for them now lol

@CanditoTrainingHQ 2 года назад

Damn this is incredible.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Appreciate it! It's pretty interesting right? Would be a fascinating thing to get to play around with if they open the data up for us.

@DISSIRE 2 года назад

You know what would be so sick if companies did? If they replied to these things and explained why it's difficult to do if it is difficult or why they prefer not to do it even if they can. Transparency of vision and goals would be massively appreciated by us, their customers. I left Canon because they never added the 10bit to the C200, probably a simple enough thing to do and I know many others who left them as well. Blackmagic which seems to be pretty forward thinking company should capitalise on this and be super transparent, their customers would love it.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

100%! They've talked about it before. So I just wanted to bring it up again to hopefully get more people interested in this potential feature. TBH, I'm surprised the 12k doesn't have this especially being billed as a VFX camera

@UnchartedWorlds 2 года назад

I private messaged a contact I got at Blackmagic a team and a project manager in Singapore and asked him to see the video and to send it to relevant people in the company. And also that we as customers and community want this. Sign under thus with like or a comment in case people from Blackmagic view these comments.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Don't know how I missed this! Thanks for sending that off to them!

@nickxc 2 года назад

If I remember correctly from an old NAB interview, when Blackmagic originally released the Ursa 4.6K they talked about having an internal gyro that could be used to help with post stabilization. They actually said that was part of the reason they added the .6K extra resolution. Nothing ever seemed to come on it.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Oh man, I think I remember that. That's super interesting. Honestly would be such and interesting idea to add in. Some of this tech will be the future one day

@nickxc 2 года назад

@@FrameVoyager I hope they implement it. I fly my pocket 4k on an fpv drone, and I would love to have a built in solution for stabilization instead of steadxp.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Feels like a very optimal use for this exact thing!

@TimandLauren 2 года назад

@@nickxc your time has come!!!

@nickxc 2 года назад

@@TimandLauren I felt very validated this past week.

@williamabucay3304 2 года назад

This is sooo good! Im so excited! I hope they'll really implement this soon!

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Appreciate it! Hoping so too! Would be at least fun to mess around with

@topicruben 2 года назад

I'm speechless! Thanks man, Great video!

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Appreciate it!

@ErikPelyukhno 2 года назад

Holy crap this was produced so well, how in the heck did I not hear about you before??

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Appreciate it! 😄 I don't know! Those dang RU-vid Algorithms.

@shashivyas3433 2 года назад

New update has it, great news!

@oahusurffilms 2 года назад

Something like this would really be helpful with shooting Surf. Thanks for the video I will definitely be calibrating the motion sensor before I swim out now!

@RudyAyoub 2 года назад

that would be sick

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

For sure! I bet they might implement this in future cameras. Would be a smart tech move by them imo

@Ishai1 2 года назад

Great video. This feature will require an update to the file format itself to include that data in it, so it will definitely require updates to both cameras and software like Resolve (and 3rd parties). This might not always work but it's not like you have to use it. Just like anything, you'd need to test it in your setup to see if it works for the shot you're trying to get. I do have one question though, was that a Microsoft Surface? If you're going to place a product like that in your video, you should get them to pay. Microsoft lovvvess paying for product placements.

@GRANT-W-NEALE 2 года назад

Well done !!

@OCAIOF 2 года назад

Well, that's an interesting video. Thank you, sir!

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Appreciate it!

@Alexanderthetitan Год назад

The past you , has no idea

@FrameVoyager Год назад

No clue... But I figured that the data was in there. Guess I was right lol

@MightyMigi 2 года назад

Too this man called it!!!

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

That I did 👀👀👀

@TommysVerden 2 года назад

I am so excited, I need this. 🙏🏻

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Hopefully blackmagic can add it in!

@ToriTangents 2 года назад

seems like this predicted it XD can't wait o see it in action

@christodec Год назад

is there a complete data on how to stabilize bmpcc4k or 6k gyrodata (how to record and setup properly) and how to post-process and edit in resolve later on to achieve correct results? can we have a link please? thank you

@nes.torfernandez 2 года назад

Wait, are you telling me I don’t need steady x on top of my bmpcc to fly fpv? There’s is a app called gyroflow that use gyro data from any camera to stabilize videos. Does the Blackmagic have thus gyro data build in? It is there anyway to extract that information?

@skydogfpv 2 года назад

I need this gyro data from my pocket 4k! When my pocket can look like rsgo I'll be amazed. Tried on gyroflow with a different gyro source and had a horrible time trying to sync the gyro and footage. Thank you for bringing attention to this topic!

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

No problem! Should be an interesting add if it's possible

@resilienceandflow3095 2 года назад

Which source where you using?

@skydogfpv 2 года назад

@@resilienceandflow3095 I soft mounted an RC flight controller to my smallrig cage

@RuXsel 2 года назад

Love this idea...subbed!

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Thanks!

@RuXsel Год назад

Back!...this vid probably forced Blackmagic to release an update that we got right now....awesome 😆

@FrameVoyager Год назад

😉

@jasonpalma3651 2 года назад

You were right!!!!!!! gyro coming soon

@erhangucel 2 года назад

Great video! Gyro data would be extremely useful, I use Resolve's stabilizer a lot, it's quite good but not perfect. Gyro would help.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

I mean could you imagine that in Resolve? man, that would be a feature

@erhangucel 2 года назад

@@FrameVoyager Yeah, especially with the shots that have movement. Current stabilizer struggles time to time in some situations. This would eliminate many of them for sure!

@TheGuigotz 2 года назад

Well, finally we got it!

@jordanpryce8964 2 года назад

Have your sen what gyroflow is doing with gyro data?

@Damien-og6sk 2 года назад

THEY JUST ANNOUNCED IT! Gyrostabilization now included in Braw metadata!

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

😤😤😤

@LuckyDogProductions 2 года назад

Any experience with the XLR port not working after a BM4K software update???? noting no port abuse, tested on several different microphones and no sound. 3.5 port still works.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

No I haven't had that issue yet

@LuckyDogProductions 2 года назад

@@FrameVoyager I am really hoping it is just a software glitch.

@reanetsemoleleki8219 2 года назад

"Let's look at the user manual." *Pulls out the Egyptian Book of The Dead*

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Don't give me any ideas 😂

@sobadaham 2 года назад

Heyy... I requested Blackmagic after this video for in camera stabilization to pocket 4K without stating anything about gyro.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Sweet! Maybe if we get enough people to ask that would help

@jacksp8de 2 года назад

Seen your videos but this video won you a sub sir. Congrats

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Appreciate that!

@jacksp8de 2 года назад

@@FrameVoyager No problem! Keep up the dope content

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

@@jacksp8de will do! Working on a lot of new stuff! Next year is going to be 🔥

@jacksp8de 2 года назад

@@FrameVoyager Nice! Same here!

@ScottyRoddis Год назад

And now it's available in gyro flow as of a couple days ago. It's just as good as reelsteady.

@MrCoffis 2 года назад

Ive been wishing for this feature since forever

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Same!

@dcfanforlife533 2 года назад

That would interesting but I would be happy ah if they increase the read out speed of the sensor and reduce rolling shutter

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

It would be so nice!

@dcfanforlife533 2 года назад

@@FrameVoyager I mean you can request them this as you've got direct contract 😅😂

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

@@dcfanforlife533 hahaha I wish!

@mariotriforce 2 года назад

Unlikely - but you never know- you would need a sidecar file to grow as it the changes in gyro would need to be recorded every frame and as the sidecar file is generated by resolve not the camera theirs probably no function to record the just reads gyro sensor, gyro data also goes off sync quite quickly +look at skyward sword switch+ so it would be fine in short bursts but it is possible depending how stuff is set up but I doubt blackmagic would have that chip read and write but you never know maby they might make a pocket 4k pro tho I think that's unlikely because of the new studio cameras hmmmmmmm

@Justin_Allen 2 года назад

When they say they "can add it as a feature" I think it really means that it goes on a list, not that "it can be done", or even will be done. I have received the same email on other items and they have never come to fruition.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Oh, for sure I probably should have worded that better. But still, I would think it would be an interesting feature for them to add in. Especially if the Gyro data is already there. Like just unlock it for us and we can go somewhere else to use it. But yeah, I've asked them other technical questions in the past with stuff like this and it took them like days to respond. I got this back in about an hour so I thought that was interesting. Could be nothing but who knows haha

@mtj_zuffa Год назад

they did it!

@FrameVoyager Год назад

Yep! 🥺

@onlinebusinesssidehustle 2 года назад

Hey great watch. What’s the brand? Looks a bit like a Sinn 104

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

😂😂 I wish! It's a dive watch actually. Think it's like a Timex? 😂😂

@MistaFussichannel 2 года назад

I thought about this as soon as they’d introduced the feature of the crosshairs. This is no revelation.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

😂

@stevegreen9474 2 года назад

I'll admit I was dubious, but it's just been announced along with the new camera - gyro data is going to be usable in the next Resolve beta + the new firmware update

@giordanobruno7943 2 года назад

yes sur speak on it.

@dravani 2 года назад

I'm even more interested in having the gyro data in realtime to output to an UNREAL engine - then I could use the BMPCC6K I have to drive a frustum volume ... imagine being able to use this camera with a DJI RS3 Pro gimbal in a virtual set - sending the gyro data and video data back to realtime process live VFX. PLEASE MAKE THIS A REALITY GRANT PETTY!!!!! :)

@skydogfpv 2 года назад

Also can you link to where we can submit a feature request?

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

This is the best place I know of --> www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/contact/email

@skydogfpv 2 года назад

@@FrameVoyager thank you, submitted!

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

@@skydogfpv sweet!

@dennypilot9856 2 года назад

Congratulations on today's update where they did just that!

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Finally 😩

@RuXsel 2 года назад

Now onli if they can manufacture LPE6 batteries for the p4k that last longer..😅kidding

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

I honestly forget they even have internal batteries at this point haha

@deroux 2 года назад

great video but the soda can was a little distracting.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

You must be new here 😂 but thanks! Yeah, the can is monster energy which is kind of a running gag throughout most of my videos. So it usually ends up in a video in some way 😂 but it get how it can be distracting

@laserfliptoboneless 2 года назад

Broooo I completely ignored the manual because I was taught how to use it in university 😭

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

hahaha I mean, I did too when I first bought it and then realized after the first shoot I really needed too ha

@lnz3704 2 года назад

5 months later. . . .

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Still waiting 😩

@RemmyMusic1 2 года назад

the email you got back from BM indicates absolutely nothing that would mean they're adding this as a feature. They said added as a feature request which means it's not even being worked on yet- but rather still in consideration which factors community desire, their own team seeing use, and if its possible code. In other words, probably a 10% chance it's ever added. Thats not to be negative, tis just how these companies work. The jargon they've responded with really means nothing.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

😂😂 oh, I'm aware.

@ari-m. 2 года назад

happily this comment didn't age well haha

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

😂😂😂 nope

@RemmyMusic1 2 года назад

@@ari-m. so am i. Its honestly rare to see today. I could name a dozen companies bigger/smaller than BM that value community feedback as much as their laundry.

@electronicfellows2113 2 года назад

yo, what ISO is your A roll?

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Which part?

@electronicfellows2113 2 года назад

@@FrameVoyager minute 1:57 for example

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

@@electronicfellows2113 oh! Probably 800. I'm using the URSA G2 though so it's the native on that camera

@AnotherCameraChannel 2 года назад

Nice mask.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

haha thanks! Have had this one for a while, just been waiting to use it 👀

@BarivanFilm 2 года назад

wow, I liked you)

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Thank you! 😃

@divisionoflabor3070 2 года назад

Nice reconnoissance work. Next mission: Travel to Japan and infiltrate Lumix HQ and find the real reason behind their terrible AF.

@kolecava 2 года назад

If it's already there and won't add any issues then why not? I don't see it as a problem. Don't want? Don't use it. Specially if it works better in conjunction with Resolves stabiliser.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

My thoughts exactly. Hoping to at least get some people asking for this to be a feature in a new camera of theirs if they won't do it in these!

@waltersegundo 2 года назад

Today it came to reality. For all bmpcc 4k and 6k with the new 6k G2.

@polastories 2 года назад

Just for the masterpiece video you made, they should release the update tomorrow morning.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

😂😂😂 appreciate it!

@colmh8855 2 года назад

Is it also in pocket 4k?

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Yep!

@colmh8855 2 года назад

@@FrameVoyager cool thanks

@stevegreen9474 2 года назад

@@colmh8855 the latest video announcement from Blackmagic includes a bit about gyro stabilisation - the new 4.9 firmware supports it, and the next beta of Resolve will let you use it to stabilise clips

@colmh8855 2 года назад

@@stevegreen9474 cool thanks for the share

@Lefute79 2 года назад

"God bless you all", you to brother in Christ ;)

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

You too!

@jtgarcia181 2 года назад

I’d rather have autofocus :( that would be an epic update (if that’s even possible).

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

haha that would be cool! I really think AF will be coming from outside sources from camera companies in the future. LIDAR has a fascinating future imo

@GUILLERMO.NESPOlO 2 года назад

I was working on serie for Disney + with the Sony Venice 6k the show have heavy use of shots with CGI , talk to the vfx guy asking him if they use the gyro data of the camera for stabilization , and he told me that only small cameras uses this features … also email Sony about and they have respond in the future maybe

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

Interesting! You gotta wonder if this is something that might get added in after it really gets developed and easy to access and use. Because just having the data would be valuable to VFX artist im sure. But I just think it's an interesting technical bit that would be awesome to play around with if they could just open it up for us to look at.

@DronkenDrenthen 2 года назад

Just tell me in the comments. Saves me a long video to watch.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

haha well that's no fun 😉

@Potash_label 2 года назад

Топ

@engageprodutora 2 года назад

Uhuuuuu!! Native in pockets!! And Davinci Resolve!! Assist in 1:39 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xnEFUHm4mvc.html

@willvazquez3218 2 года назад

Thanks for the clickbait. It is not a hidden feature because the feature is not even a feature, it is not usable data. So stop making videos on nonsense and speculation.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

😂 lol ok

@willvazquez3218 2 года назад

@@FrameVoyager Perhaps I was a little rough because I was hoping there really was a hidden feature I didn't know about. You have the right to make videos on whatever the hell you want, it's your channel, and I generally enjoy them. Cheers.

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

@@willvazquez3218 haha no you're good man! I mean it is a good ckickbaity kind of video. There is a precedent though that blackmagic alluded to that they were going to do this years ago but they just haven't done it yet. Plus it's technically a feature they could look into in the future. So the video was kind of a, "go tell blackmagic to do it!" And letting people know that it could be a thing and that the data is there somewhere especially if it's talking to a available feature on the camera. Appreciate all the comments though good and bad 😂