Rupert Spira is so wild! It's like he's hit upon the way to talk in a clear, understandable, contemporary manner about what all the "saints/mystics/buddhas/sages/messengers/wise people friends-of-God" were trying to talk about and point towards. And it is so good because it is so terrifically phenomenological--- just "what we actually experience". There is no "magic" here. There is nothing "supernatural" or goofy. It is calm and sober. There are no "altered states of consciousness". And yet... it totally fits with the literature... and actual experience. Wild, and very, very, helpful and validating and encouraging.
Technically what we consider the normal state, you know living the way we are used to live, is an altered state of consciousness. Most of people are so deeply unconscious they don’t even know they are unconscious… Like a crazy man who can’t recognise he is crazy of course 😅
@@joajoajb lol! Well... whatever all that is... ok! Not to totally change topic, but if you like prog-rock types of things the new song "Friend or Foe" by Riverside is really good to play loud.
@@Alex722 indeed. As a mental health professional, crazy people know they are crazy, insane people that don’t know they are insane. Also true, the line between crazy and mystic is razor thin. Most people call the mystics crazy yes? But are we or are we quite sane and fully conscious rather than asleep in the dreaming? Are we not just simply awake to awakeness? There is such a notable difference between awake in the dream and sleeping and unconscious in the dream. Carl Jung said “god is unconscious.” We are god and many of us are absolutely unconscious too it. I’ve heard tho that everyone will wake up eventually.
In my own words...There is no observer and there is no thing observed, just "observing". There is no experiencer, and there is no thing experienced, just "experiencing". There is no thinker and there is no thought, just "thinking". There is no I and there is no me, just "being"
“I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.” Max Planck
@user-od5fi8we2g your first line is proof of your character. Now your gibberish story will remain unread in eternity until (maybe) someone of the same character picks it up become those words. “In the beginning was the Word. The Word was with God and the Word was God.” A few verses later John tells us “The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.”
Even science says, that life has come up only one time. The core of truth is simple: we are the one life (being, consciousness) in many different forms, shapes, colours and so on and it's not a cotradiction.
Science is also this mystery, there is nothing that isn’t already it, the unknowable appearing knowable swallowing its own tail; chicken egging or egg chickening 😂
@@usr909 Well, coming from Germany, i read this already a long time ago in the well known magazine GEO and recently in other articles. I'm sorry that i have no link in english right now.
@@usr909 I do not really understand you, what the problem might be . For me Science & Spirituality or Non-Duality are different "languages" of the same one truth. There's only one truth and we all do experience it and learn. Peace
Back when i was a teenager and was suffering really badly, I decided to seek enlightenment, I found this psychedelic plant called salvia and strongly felt the urge to ingest a large amount of it. So I smoked it alone and forgot who i was or where id come from, I got stuck in a hellish place for seeming eternity, and finally found the key to liberation. I came back to this 3D world, but I came back with this understanding that the consciousness behind the eyes of all people, it comes from the same place which means we are all really the same being, its just an illusion that makes us appear separate and identification with that illusion is the source of all suffering. I lost the awareness after a few minutes. I had never come across any spiritual teachings at that time, i didnt understand what happened at all or how it could be connected to enlightenment. But years later, I remember. This is the truth.
Marijuana of 18 - 22 % potency was enough to change something in me or inflict some kind of memory that i'll remember such as revealing of what the truth is or that reality breakthrough, but smoking different strains and of many types was a scary mind bending experience even from weed, and THC in such doses is a psychedelic too. The first time actual real weed and not the synthetic stuff did feel like my whole life and collective view of a reality was a figment of staging, or some kind of scripted thing that i revealed what it was like being off stages in the actual reality that weed showed me. Scary, can't smoke anymore, don't like it, and i have transient psychoses. i did smoke a non extract of salvia not feeling anything but if i smoked an extract i would smoke myself to a full retard or schizo, i definitely don't want to do psychedelic or psychoactive anymore, got to take meds before and after psychoactives, but they're not too related as much as actual real life unpleasant experiences, but i would exclude smoking psychotropics herbs as well. however if you use it as a tool properly, it quite of does the part of introspection and viewing the world from a different angle.
Smoking other strains and i suppose i tried one more time the same first strain i smoked, i felt like it was too much and i can't do weed, felt trippy, while Salvia is an actual dissolver of collective view of reality, i don't think i can do that lol.
On other hand, there are people with various illnesses whereas without cannabis, they would either be wheelchair bound or even dead, so i'd i let my hand free and the less restrictions the more people will be saved from these diseases, though rare, but it saves lives. I'm not talking about some kind of melancholy or stress or lack of drive in life, i'm more about physical degenerative disorders that affects the CNS in paralyzing way, muscle, so i'd rather cannabis to be totally descheduled worldwide with restrictions to recreational users, and totally freedom of prescription for people with these illnesses and there needs no 100 % proof of diagnosis or by other words "But your symptoms are not severe enough to prescribe you that" since next day a person may be irreversibly dead.
I came here from your ad “you are not born and you never die”, and I just wanted to chime in; you speak of the difference between universal and personal consciousness, the latter is only a reflex of the former, this denying the existence of individuality as only the self-perception of the mental construct. But this ignores the various subtleties and permutations of the universal consciousness; it is far more accurate to say that this consciousness incarnates first as a ‘soul’, then later and a corporeal being.
The goal is to achieve an awareness of nonduality. An awareness of nonduality is achieved by reaching the state of "no thought". To achieve this, you only need to realize that thinking cannot get you any closer or further away from nonduality. Nonduality is all there is. So, thinking is then realized to be pointless and falls away naturally, leaving an awareness of nonduality.
I may have different points of view across time and space but they are all mine. They can never include another sentient being's point of view. I cannot access the content of another sentient being's consciousness because I am not the source of that being's consciousness. Thus I cannot confirm that there is really only one consciousness. I can't even prove that another sentient being is indeed conscious. I can only assume. The only Being who can say that there is really only One consciousness is the One who is the source of consciousness of all sentient beings. He can say so because being the source of consciousness, He can actually access the content of consciousness of all sentient beings.
💕the consciousness that is aware of this space of unity from all points of view on this beautiful world so happily in this understanding💕Thank you, Rupert!💕
Hm. I am struggling here with Ruperts logical line of arguments. First, he points the questioner to his personal subjective experience to find the one common element there ...which builds the basis for the experience that there is and always was the "same ME" as the subject of all experience. So we rely on our own experience and take it for "true". Fine. But exactly this same "own experience" showed me all of my life that this "me" is separate from all the other me's around the globe. That - of course - we share much common elements in our mindstream. But ...in the end of the day ...I sit here in the warmth of my living room and somewhere else in this city, not far away there is somebody living in the street who has no home. And my "direct experience" is, that I am not him/her. So first we should rely on our own experience and see the truth in it. And second we should deny this same subjective experience when it experiences "separatedness" and take it as "just a belief". So I am left wirh the suggestion to BELIEVE that my experience is just a believe? Ok...fine. But why is the one thing "always the same subject" so easy to see and I dont must make any effort to "believe " it. And the other part "only one consciousness" is - in the same mind/consciousness - nearly Impossible to "see directly" and I have to believe it??
As someone who is "awakened" (meaning my thought activity has reduced dramatically, I no longer identify with my thoughts/emotions/body etc, I have non-dual awareness & partially a sense of non-doership) I think this view is a bit dogmatic. How do we know that this sense of oneness with everything we perceive actually means that our true nature is that ONE consciousness? It could also mean that our true nature is just OUR own consciousness whose borders we also can't find as our own perception is limitless too. Both versions are possible and ultimately nobody really knows I would say.
Yes It’s more like nobody knows 😂 Nobody is talking to nobody about nothing yet believing it’s a somebody talking to another somebody about something. As a result of that phenomena there are other phenomenas arising such as truth or dogma. There is no arriving since mister or miss “no one” never took off to begin with 😂
Consciousness cannot have borders because it is being itself. There is only one being. A limit or border in being would mean that there is something outside being: not-being. But not-being cannot be by definition. You consciousness or being and my consciousness or being is being. There is only being.
Recently i watched a documentary about savants. People with mental capabilities different from the standard. That tells us that our brains have the potential even for telepathy. So, i guess the ability to hold multiple view points of consciusness is something in the future of evolution. All is consciousness❤
Just as you can' t reenter your point of view from your childhood or from 5 minutes ago. In the same way you can not enter a point of view from the others.
But you had observed your childhood consciousness, other people you can't, so as far as law of observation tells you, there's is only one consciousness until you are able to observe consciousness from other than you
The parable of the vine and it’s branches in the 15th chapter of the gospel of John reveals that life/consciousness belong to God but we are allowed to experience it as if it were our own. As I see it, one is allowed the freedom to claim this life/consciousness as one’s own (selfishness) or to believe that it is God’s. One is also allowed to choose to obey God’s commandments and become one with Him and to live for Him and for others or not. May we each make wise choices. :)
Where is the correlation between my perceptions and everybody else! We all perceive a different experience everyday. Just as our bodies and minds are made up of various and multiple complexities, isn't it fair to deduce that perceptions may also come from various and multiple sources.
"There is one Universal Consciousness" is just like there is one Universal Human Speech Alphabetic Law 2018; and it is a law of Nature, and already discovered.
The past you and the present you are the same, that everyone can acknowledge. Now remove your memory of the past, were you still your past at one point although you no longer remember it? Imagine then, that you and i are the same, we just share no common memory of eachother.
i just can't seem to find the logic in: "there's nothing to suggest that there's more than one perceiver". What then gives a suggestion that there's only one perceiver? how do you come into that conclusion?
That is what it is actually! He talks about this in his videos that consciousness is not something that this Body-Mind has rather this Body-Mind is in Consciousness.
Nice. I simplistically liken consciousness to electromagnetism (massless) that provides the spark of light which illuminates experience, and mind-body-matter as gravity that congeals from massless into substance (Higgs boson anybody?). Both occur and co-exist with different manifestations in nature, both describe the behaviious of manifest reality. E = mc2. Theortical mathematical physicist are onto something. Wishing you well, cheerio
That can mean two different things and it’s not explained well which is why there can be a lot of confusion. It can either mean solipsism or it can mean nonduality.
@@epicbehavior Rupert stated that all view points are alike, and that there is only one perceiver. This can’t be solipsism because then the other view points would be different from my view point in that they are imagined by me, and also no one would actually perceive the other view points because I factually only perceive my own and there is supposedly no one else. I can understand the solipsism confusion through, it passed me by as well 🙂 Interpreting this as solipsism requires additional assumptions that seem rather far fetched to me, and don’t really agree with what he said. If he had meant to say that all the other view points are unreal then he would have just said that. If my view point was anyhow special, he would have said that. Reading solipsism into this indicates a kind of conceptual error (in my opinion): I think that I am that one perceiver, and therefore there is nobody else, and everything is me. But that doesn’t add up at all. The one who produces such a confused model of reality is not the perceiver. It’s one of the view points (i.e. this mind). I cannot go and claim to be the perceiver. Either I knowingly am the perceiver, then there’s no questions or confusion in the first place; or I am not, then I needn’t try because it doesn’t become true by thinking it.
There appears to be lots of individuals in a dream, but it is all one Consciousness. There is no one else in your dream. Not being able to see the thoughts of "other" dream characters does not prove separation or otherness. The point of view is dependent on the body or dream body...but it is all one Consciousness.
@@NondualityChannel That’s good because I had a few moments on psychedelics where it felt like solipsism was the truth. After all, if I take a substance and physical reality changes for me and the people around me start acting completely differently, what is happening to their perspective especially if they didn’t take anything?
There are enough most credible reports of great Saints & Sages who were completely aware of the thoughts of their Devotees, one is Ram Das who beautifully reported that his later Guru Neem Karoli Baba did that on many occasions.... One was that on his way to his guru Ram Das stopped in the night, looking at the milky way galaxy above him in the Himalayas as he was thinking of his mother who had just recently died because of her spleen.... Neem Karoli Baba wasn't even his Guru then or physically present but when Ram Das met him the next day Neem Karoli Baba casually reminded him what he had been thinking about and whom as he had watched the stars.... And there are countless further reports.... In fact it's most plausible that a truly self realized master with his own mind empty could easily switch the focus point of his Awareness to another mind and just observe their thoughts as Neem Karoli did with Ram Das that night.....🥰🦸🙏
Way too much intellectualizing and philosophizing in the comments here. I am is before I am that, in all cases. The “world” and all its “contents” cannot be without an awareness of such. One actor playing many roles. What is aware of “me” is whats aware of you”. There is no separation either experientially or scientifically. All experience happens within me.
First of all i wanna thank you for showing my true nature...but what i discovered is that we are not universal consciousness...because i see consciousness a knowing of a object and find place in the body (mind)... as awareness...is the witness of experience...the interaction between body and object and therefore must be outside the body...everything happens in awareness but not in consciousnes...just imagine 2 guys having a fight 1 punches the other onconscious ...at this stage the man down is not conscious of his surrounding but awareness is because it also uses the other body...and that is basicly what we are... a 4,5 billion year old awareness...and there basicly is no we... it,s just creation and perciever...one can,t go without the other...
this is a bit sophistical. First of all, any talk of previous points of view of your kitchen or you as a five year old are based solely on memory, and that includes a "memory" that it was the same "person" experiencing something in the past. On the other hand, the point of view reading this in the now is not based on memory. The person asking Rupert the question and Rupert answering are both in the same present moment, yet they do not at all experience the same point of view. The analogy from past memories does nothing to answer the original question.
memory is just a word to describe our relationship to past experiences through time. but what is it that separates past moments from this moment? is there anything, really, or is time a continuity? was your experience of yesterday less real than the experience you're having now?
@@michaelgusovsky I hope you can tell the difference between a mental picture of what you assume was your experience when you were five years old, and the present moment.
@@danterosati maybe it's better to compare apples to apples? how did the actual living experience (not the memory of it) you had as a 5 year old compare to the living experience you are having now? was it any less real? perhaps you might not remember it accurately, or details may have become distorted or forgotten over time, but that's not the point being discussed. whether or not you remember a day in the life as a 5 year old, it is nonetheless no different from your life in this very moment - it is, in fact, the same life that has never ceased.
@@michaelgusovsky you misunderstand. there is only the present moment, so unless you are currently five years old, that is only an abstraction, a memory picture, not the present moment, the "now"
All are expressions of God. If you haven't known yourself yet, this will be just another philosophy you could argue and debate and if you have had you'll be silent and understand.
@Peter T Very true, in fact I'd say being open is one of the infinite ways to recognize the ultimate knowledge/ jnana. I was just saying from an experiential understanding, when things are not in our experience we will argue about it, philosophize it, but when things are in our experience we will share the understanding and sometimes would remain silent because there would be no reason to sway. We can debate and seek but ultimately our dependence on seeking answers through debating will disappoint us, instead a debate within us will have to be started to know. And that would be the end of all opinions. ✨
Sorry but have to disagree. Billions of conscious entities cannot be experienced by a single super consciousness. Each perceiving consciousness has a potential 360 degree field of view of their surrounding. Mathematically it can only perceive it's own reality and unable to perceive those of other consciousness at the same time.. So you have not proven that there are no other billions of consciousness.
Since it’s ever changing, any claim to say there is no self is also subject to change. Self and no self aren’t two, nothing is, but it’s everything with nothing apart 🎉
