I find it ironic that the reason he gave for not being licensed is that he had to wait for the process to complete and expects that to be fine with the defendants. Then, when the defendants have their own process that governs the payment, the plaintiffs demand it immediately and to bypass it.
@Marilyn Willett Nobody is benefitting. The house is not done. Even if it were, how is it her fault he misrepresented himself? He passed the test and he knew he had to wait until hearing back to be fully licensed. Then, he ups and demands full payment before the job is completed? They wouldn't be here if he had waited.
@@marilynwillett804 you're dead wrong.i am a licensed building contractor. It's so unfair a person can do"handyman work" but expand what that means and do so much more, and contractors like me lose customers to them. If it's ok. Then why aren't there "handy law people" or handy medical people" who just feel like " I'm just bandaging and sowing!" I'm hourly rate is challenge do people who will happily work for $100 a day. They shouldn't get a penny.. They should be fined highly. Plus I have to pay $ 350 a month for liability insurance. And pay guys workers comp at &.35 on every dollar I pay out
@@TooLooze plus they are liable I've damaged things in people's homes before. Hit a water pipe once. Had to use my liability insurance. You think handy guys will do that.?
She's surprised he's suing for labor done because they're all veterans? How can the organization exploit service but decides to withhold payment? If being licensed was so pertinent it's on the solicitor to verify licensure. 🙄
😂😂. First thing I thought. Exactly the comment I was looking for. Glad I'm not alone. I know people wear more casual things to court now a days but it's just such a weird pick.
As a former contractor it sounds as though they were hired as laborers, not a general contractor. The defendant knew they weren’t general contractors and if that’s how she treats people I’m not surprised they can’t find a GC. Sounds like a great organization though.
My husband was licensed and insured to do jobs up to $30,000 and he didn't have to take a test to be a General Contractor. In NC , in early mid 2000's not sure if changed since 2010, there were 3 levels. In level 1 you could build up to $100,000 level 2 up to $250,000, 3rd level was unlimited license. I know u had to have $17,000, $50,000 and $100,000 in bank when got license and had periodic checks to assure that amt is in bank cash accessible when you renew yearly.
what a darn shame. Those guy's should have been paid for the work they did. Never agree to do ANY WORK FOR ANYONE unless there is a written contract for the job your doing.
There is a huge misnomer that "Not for Profit" or "Non-profit" means the people don't make a profit. All a "Non-profit" status is an IRS classification. If your business is deemed to be "for the public good" you can get "Non-profit" status. The IRS has a list of approved businesses but will take applications for any business. For example, if you decided that squirrels in the park needed more nuts and you wanted to go into business to raise the money and have feeders installed in there, you would probably qualify for "Non-profit" status. Don't get me wrong, I think what these people are doing is really nice and more importantly, it's needed. But a lot of non-profits act really high and mighty where in actuality they are raking in huge profits and paying no taxes.
Agreed entirely. It’s hard to determine from the outside how much employees of a nonprofit should be paid, but when they might be making 6figures and stiffing a couple of veterans for their hard labor, it really begs the question whether they’re serving veterans or serving themselves.
Nailed it.!! Yeah two I can think of are Good willy, The army of salvation-station,ranking in da bucks like a mug!! Yet the return to the folks trying to get back on their feet...next to Nil. totally insincere BS. I however do want to say as well respect to ALL THE VETS, this is not aimed at you all.
Whi put in the initial wiring? They hired someone who didn't know what to do correctly. Wow! They don't seem to hire people with licenses. These guys deserve to be paid.
I’ve been an avid fan and watched since Peoples Court since inception. Judge Wapner, Rusty, Doug and Harvey were integral then and now. I love Judge Millian and her trust bailiff and friend Douglas. I was elated when Doug Lewellen returned.
Hopefully they do right be each other. They’ve all served our country and in an attempt to serve each other there was some miscommunication that led to this court case
I'm so glad that the defendant takes the time from her life to do things so that our veterans will live their lives in a more comfortable fashion which is so what they deserve for keeping us safe
@@dinahbrown902 Safe from being invaded during the war. I appreciate our men in service as well as our veterans ❤️ Thank you for your message have a great day
@@dinahbrown902 In a way it's a financial gain for someone I'm sure but at least some one is doing something to help out veterans. I know a few who would have benefited greatly from this project. So you see I do appreciate what they're doing. Thanks for your message and have a great day ❤️
The judge is absolutely right. I lived in Pinellas County Florida for 6 years. It's extremely hard to become a licensed contractor. They actually do police stings all the time to round up unlicensed contractors because there are a ton out there that don't want to go through the process of actually getting their license.
Terrible ruling, guess it was out of her hands. Sorry for these guys, not getting paid. This defendant looks like she ain’t thinking about paying them fools!😅
Defendants knew damn well these guys were not licensed. If it was important they would've asked to see the license. They needed work done and were willing to risk it.
Did you build them in Pinellas County? Each county has their own rules. Were you the homeowner or were you building for someone unrelated to you? Homeowners can usually do their own work.
@@nunyabiznes3901 I'll concede this one. I was the homeowner in both instances and a county east and north of Pinellas. He was working for a third party.
He’s right about that licensing process in Florida. When I tested for my insurance licenses those contractors would be in there stressed out with humongous folders.
Why doesn’t a person who passed the exams, paid whatever needed to be paid and filled in all of the necessary documents get the license that he now arguably has a legal right to within a decent amount of time OR (if that for some reason is a time consuming process) get a TEMPORARY license for this ‘in-between-time’?? When somebody has invested time, effort, money into obtaining a license, it is only JUSTIFIED that he gets to profit from his investments once he has done all he is required to do!
When I got my Realtor license in Florida, there was a long delay in taking the state's qualification exam in Orlando. But I didn't sell any houses before I got my license.
Poor guy's do the work they were asked to do then they were screwed over by charity on a technicality. They should go back and undo their work. This should have been sorted out, out of court.
@@KyTy-yb3vl They're the kind of containers they use at construction sites to be used as offices for the foremen. They're often smaller than trailer park homes, which are built as homes. These things were build to transport meat products, and now we're forcing our vets to live in them...
While churches rake in millions of dollars and do nothing.except buy their mansions and their yachts and 400k cars and our goverment who promises to take of them gives billions away to other countries that hate us.those 2 things need to change and we would start seeing a difference in our society.
And because he wasn't licensed the wiring and some other work will need to be redone, and everything will need to be closely inspected and possibly done over. You can't do electrical work without a license.
Why didn't she dismiss without prejudice and allow them to re-file when his License came through. The charity is exploitative and should do the right thing and if the work is to code - they should be paid. I'm sure some licensed Vet somewhere would survey the completed works pro-bono and facilitate a win-win outcome for this case.
@@miriamkivlehan3498 The issue remains that he still has no license whether he passed the exam or not. For example, in my state when someone passes the test for their concealed carry permit, they aren't able to lawfully carry until the permit has been issued.
@@labradoriteatheart I read it just fine. The point remains that since the work was done PRIOR to him being a licensed contractor he cannot ask the court to enforce the contract. It’s irrelevant if he became licensed after the court case.
Yeah, these guys got screwed. Was the judge having a bad day? Why was she so hostile towards these guys right from the start? Her tone and body language said it all. The case wasn’t even about a contractor license but about payment. The defendant knew they not yet licensed but hired them anyway. Compromise is a valuable tool any good judge uses in cases like this but the judge had some sort of agenda. Shame on her.
The Judge was annoyed because she thinks they should have sorted things out outside of court. She also doesn’t agree with the law, but her hands are tied.
If any general contractors are watching this video, they should *volunteer their time to help build tiny homes for our veterans. *Volunteering will give you a tax deferment
What u don’t understand is, if it was for them personally, no problem. If they want to get PAID to construct in their Florida county… they Must Have A License!
Plaintiffs made an error in judgement (doing work before the license was approved) but the non-profit made a moral error. Seems clear that once they realized the plaintiffs weren't licensed, they cut a third off the top of what they'd agreed to pay and told them to take it and be happy about it. I'd love to see what those three NP directors were making in salary (non-profit means the company makes no profit, not that employees/staff don't make profit). Ironic that a NP based on helping vets looked to cut corners by taking advantage of vets.
Interesting. I’ve seen her ask both parties if they knew the contractor was unlicensed and when both say yes, she awards the unlicensed contractor money for work done. She said you can’t cry about the license afterwards just because you’re upset. So is this different because the defendant thought he had his license??
How the defendant stuttered when asked if someone was living in it🤔 I think they had no intention of paying the plaintiffs. Some of these organizations seem legit , bit are actually very shady!
A handyman can do the work without a license since there is nothing structural. They are making a bigger deal about the license than it really is. I am a license contractor.
My husband is a Pinellas County contractor. He does tile and marble work on floors, backsplash, and bathrooms mainly. He just found out as of July 1, 2024, he no longer needs his contractors license to do flooring, but anything else like plumbing and electrical does in fact need to be done by a licensed contractor in Pinellas.
Just because he did his part. He still hasn't got his license in his hands. So in the real world he's not a licensed contractor. It's a shame veterans fight for our country to come back injured. And all they're offered is a tiny home 300 hundred and something square feet. And made out of freezers. I think it's sad. God bless everyone of you that fought for America. And thank you a thousand times over !! 💜❤️💙💚🧡
How long can you wait to get paid for work you have completed? These guys performed a service and should have been paid. It was on the "director" to make sure the paperwork was in order and she didn't do that. Her "board" should be concerned about that as well.
I absolutely agree. Many of them receive nothing but a hard time. There are so many new class action lawsuits regarding military soldiers contracting all types of incurable diseases it's horrific from contaminated water, exposure to chemicals etc etc. It's downright disgusting how poorly they're treated when they return home.
It's sad they they say the helped vets but used those old men and they are vets too smh just trying to make a living and they shouldn't have to at that age and with that status they definitely should be tooken care of I hope they do pay them something lf you let them work while they had no license then you didn't care so don't start to care now smh pay the ppl
I feel for the plaintiffs but they gambled. They knew if they were not licensed and doing work for something like this they might notget paid because of certain rules you have to have in place. If this was under the table sort of thing fine...but for a non-profit...rules have to be followed.
5:30 Yes judge, that work can be done by an unlicensed handyman... I know because I've done this type of work in my own home. All you need is commonsense and RU-vid!
You can do work in your own home. You cannot represent yourself as being a licensed professional contractor working on someone else’s property. Two very different things.
@@nunyabiznes3901 I truly understand that. The judge comes across like you would need special training to do the work. It's the same thing as replacing a toilet. It's not that difficult!
yeah... so I think the defan knew they had no license. some people do this... hire non licensed then refuse to pay on the grounds that they didn't know they weren't licensed.
He should have waited for his license to come in the mail. The date on the license would let him know if he can then sue for non payment. He has 3 years to sue.
It's sad that this judge who I used to respect is now railing against regulations that keep people safe. Yes, sometimes they seem ridiculous, but regulations start with people being harmed. So there's that.
Y don't u respect Judge Milian ... She did say she'd like them to be paid but Florida law prohibits an unlicensed contractor being paid.. She stated therefore her hands were tied.. But she gave them all she could..$s for shopping. Impatience has it consequences the plaintiff should haf waited out the tedious process til he had his license then he could haf worked for the NFP Organisation and gotten paid...
What people need to understand that if a non license contractor does a job in your home an it needs inspected the state will force you to remove all the work an fail the inspection. Plus liability is at play here on the work they do. Do your homework don't go by word of the mouth. They have to show you there documents an you can look them up if they are legit. Any person refuses please kick the to the curb.
IN MY VIEW Both sides were wrong. The woman stiffing the workers from paying them for the work they did. She hired two men WITHOUT contractor licenses. The guy who wants to be a contractor wants to make his own indepentant contractor rules BEFORE he is licensed.
Just the way she acted at the end & her response to Doug told me she didn’t intend to pay them from get go! Do the right thing lady you & your board need to pay those gentlemen! I just wonder what really happened with the first guy they brought in to to the job. Karma is a biatch!
6:04 In Texas the electrical work can be done by someone as long as it’s checked by a licensed electrician, especially connecting the wires to the outside box.
@@labradoriteatheart but what if he doesn't approve? All the best to you!! (a contractor might give another licensed contractor a break that a handyman wouldn't get.)
I have regulars at a restaurant I work at who are brothers they are older and one is mentally handicapped,they come in every week with there matching Hawaiian shirts and they’ve been doing this for 3 year since I’ve worked there they are absolutely adorable
While the plaintiffs was in the wrong for coming across as licensed, and can do the work, what I find equally wrong, was the defendant taking advantage of the situation and saying that even though the work was done, she's not paying because the "contractor" wasn't licensed. I've never agreed that I should benefit from another's errors. Pay the guys, and halt the project until the issue is cleared up, and call it a day.
No thing is a bunch of c***You gotta have a license to be Carpenter All is money for this state You should be ashamed of yourself lady not paying them.
As a disabled Army Veteran, I find it disgusting, disingenuous, dishonorable, deplorable shite, that folks find it so hard to give back to us. When we selflessly gave of our lives and family lives to stand for freedom for everyone, regardless of political, race, creed or religion. WWII Veterans came home to be given new houses. There shouldn't be a single homeless Veteran. In the days of the greatest generation everything was donated, from labor to materials. SMFH
Selfless people don’t make demands and then insult people when they don’t get their way. It’s not our fault that our taxes get wasted. We could easily help our veterans properly but the government would rather waste our money on nonsense. “But voting!” As if that magically would solve where our taxes actually go. It rarely does. Blame the government, they’re the ones in charge of where our money goes.
