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Kyrie Irving of the Brooklyn Nets was one of the players left off of the NBA's 75th Anniversary Team. Chris Broussard and Nick Wright speculate on the reasons why Kyrie could have been left off the list, and decide whether it's egregious that he was left out.
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@FirstThingsFirst
@FirstThingsFirst 2 года назад
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@mikepanton
@mikepanton 2 года назад
Nick has been slaying it with his takes on this top 75 list with Kyrie and Dwight
@JonSmith-hk1bq
@JonSmith-hk1bq 2 года назад
He was dead wrong about Reggie Miller. WAY too much emphasis on All-NBA teams and completely ignoring that he was the best player on a moderately talented Pacers team that consistently were near the top of the Easter Conference for several years, made it to the Finals, and darn near beat Jordan's Bulls. The writers in the 90s simply didn't know what they were watching. That's why he didn't have more accolades.
@bryanfoster326
@bryanfoster326 2 года назад
@@JonSmith-hk1bq yeah, but he was more the best player on a very good team, it’s kinda like richard Hamilton on that pistons (I’d say reggie is better but same situation). I don’t know what nick’s take is on it, but people either wildly underrate or overrate reggie Miller.
@TyBeTroLLing
@TyBeTroLLing 2 года назад
@@JonSmith-hk1bq Reggie Miller not too 75
@JonSmith-hk1bq
@JonSmith-hk1bq 2 года назад
@@TyBeTroLLing Arguably. But not for the reasons Nick said.
@bryanfoster326
@bryanfoster326 2 года назад
@@JonSmith-hk1bq I think there’s some pretty strong arguments behind it, but everyone either wildly overrates or underrates the guy. So it’s kinda tough to objectively talk about him
@BurgBoy7
@BurgBoy7 2 года назад
There’s no valid excuse for Dwight not to be there.
@HeeyOk
@HeeyOk 2 года назад
Dude made one shot over 5 years ago and all of a sudden he’s one of the most clutch player 🤷🏾‍♂️
@Marcus-XXL
@Marcus-XXL 2 года назад
He always makes shots like those so it’s overlooked. And yes that’s one of the most iconic moments because he basically changed history and lebrons legacy wouldn’t be what it is today he wouldn’t be compared to jordan anymore. And kyrie was only 24 and was debated to be top 2 point guards in the nba and it went back and forth between him and curry for the past 2-3 years. And after that finals the way he was playing and accomplished so young he was projected to be the best pg of all time. That is the reason he was on the cover of 2k. Its funny cause he was above curry but curry is now already projected to go down as the best pg of all time. It’s funny how everyone opinions changed and the hate he got just because he left lebron. No one is even touching curry now but kyrie was in his best years. Kyrie is had a better year than kd and curry in their best years last year yet he wasn’t the mvp. He recieved hate before he even stepped foot on the court for the Celtics and he still got even more hate even tho he played good. People taking his personality into the reason he’s “not good”. Yes the Celtics still made the playoffs every year and people knocking him for getting angry and not winning a chip but somehow forget that jayson Tatum was a rookie and Jaylen brown only played one year and they still had the best records in the past 6 years wen kyrie was playing for them for those 2 years. Celtics are still in the same situation even tho jayson and jaylen got better with the team getting better too. Kyrie is underrated and people like u need to stop treating him like he’s some average player. If alllen iverson is on this list kyrie should be too. Iverson said himself kyrie better than him. This list is based most on popularity not skill
@CulEdz
@CulEdz 2 года назад
@@Marcus-XXL If LeBron never went back to Cleveland, Kyrie would be known as a better version of Kemba.
@michaeloverton2437
@michaeloverton2437 2 года назад
@@CulEdz that's true
@pleaseshutup7053
@pleaseshutup7053 2 года назад
@@CulEdz if lebron stayed on Miami he would have only 2 rings given to him by his daddy wade.
@mal2541
@mal2541 2 года назад
@@CulEdz you don’t think someone as good as Kyrie wouldn’t end up on a team with another all star or more and be a contending team
@davidyang1160
@davidyang1160 2 года назад
beethoven producing edm tracks had me rolling LMAO I love wildes
@titankiller5287
@titankiller5287 2 года назад
Chris is so right, you have to pick players “per era” not just best, obv players now are a lot more skilled and talented (IN GENERAL) than players back then It’s a curve of course
@bsmoove2800
@bsmoove2800 2 года назад
Stop it then u shouldn't care the 75 greatest that means the 75 best not the hall of fame
@jonathanbatista6135
@jonathanbatista6135 2 года назад
Wrong, then it becomes about assumptions and projecting how great you think a player of back then, would be in today's era. Its impossible to quantify how improved each of those players might be, its not a disrespect to the past, its called evolution.
@bsmoove2800
@bsmoove2800 2 года назад
@@jonathanbatista6135 no it's not the elite big men can play in today's game and still be dominant it's the guards where the questions is at we know for a fact that Bob Cousy Bill Sharman and Sam Jones couldn't mess with none of these guards today
@titankiller5287
@titankiller5287 2 года назад
@@jonathanbatista6135 it’s not assumptions or projections, it’s about how they played in REGARDS to the era they were in The production that they put fourth (stats and accomplishments wise) PER the era they played in I’m not assuming anything when I say Wilt averaged 50, or Bill Russell won 12 titles, or Elgin has the most points in a single playoff game, these are facts, just in relation to when they played
@jonathanbatista6135
@jonathanbatista6135 2 года назад
@@titankiller5287 but no one is questioning those caliber players, we're talking about the Bob's and Kevin's, average players that had average statistics, being ahead of a champion with the greatest handles of all time, I don't agree with the reasons Kyrie or T Mac, or even Dwight was left out. These are generational talents, who would dominate in ANY era
@keithgupton9349
@keithgupton9349 2 года назад
Like most list of this type. There's a decent amount of players on the list that are irrefutable no matter what era they played in. The rest of the list is a popularity contest and very subjective.
@mattmmixes
@mattmmixes 2 года назад
ESPN always releases their top 100 and purposely goes against the popular opinion just to get people talking
@bsmoove2800
@bsmoove2800 2 года назад
Exactly
@petermadash4488
@petermadash4488 2 года назад
@@mattmmixes Exactly. And we have caught on to their strategy. Sadly, many out here still believe in the legitimacy of an ESPN list. These guys stir up controversy just for ratings.
@SB-wy1bm
@SB-wy1bm 2 года назад
@@mattmmixes its isnt even an espn list. I highly doubt the nba did that in this case
@petermadash4488
@petermadash4488 2 года назад
I mean if T-Mac couldn't cut it, Kyrie should have no argument really. That's a HoFer with scoring titles galore. We don't hear no argument about him.
@pleaseshutup7053
@pleaseshutup7053 2 года назад
Never got out the 1st rd. Kyrie has 1 loss in the 1st rd
@northside4767
@northside4767 2 года назад
@@pleaseshutup7053 T-Mac didn’t play with LeBron
@pleaseshutup7053
@pleaseshutup7053 2 года назад
@@northside4767 your teammates add to your greatness. Fact is he didn’t play in enough meaningful games
@petermadash4488
@petermadash4488 2 года назад
@@pleaseshutup7053 What about the individual accolades though? That must surely count more than team accomplishments?
@pleaseshutup7053
@pleaseshutup7053 2 года назад
@@petermadash4488 they have the same amount of all star appearances. And individual accolades are tricky because the bias media voting and they are just regular season when the games don’t mean the same thing. Playoffs are the real games can you say Tracey played his best basketball in the playoffs? And never getting out the 1st rd was their fault and not his.
@SkinsFan902
@SkinsFan902 2 года назад
Nick is spitting 1000% facts
@petermadash4488
@petermadash4488 2 года назад
People can say what they want but Nick Wright is the best debater on sports television in the world. He brings facts to his argument and wipes the floor with anybody put before him other than Chris Broussard.
@matiyaskebede8743
@matiyaskebede8743 2 года назад
There is no context in his argument. Facts without contexts are very misleading. Nick has been saying g Kyrie isn’t really a good player whilst he’s top 10/15 in the league even right now!
@Spidervenom23
@Spidervenom23 2 года назад
@@matiyaskebede8743 He isn't top 10/15 right now in the League, He's like top 20 or top 25 but that's it.
@BigPerc17
@BigPerc17 10 месяцев назад
@@matiyaskebede8743 Nick is the one that always provides context. That’s what makes him good at debating.
@kalisperis
@kalisperis 2 года назад
If Tony Parker is not on the list, Kyrie's name shouldn't even come up.
@DavidColemanKing
@DavidColemanKing 2 года назад
Kyrie way better than Tony Parker.
@katsu_papi
@katsu_papi 2 года назад
Broussard walking straight-up in Nick's "cage" about the MVP voters is hilarious..
@stanleyrobinson8712
@stanleyrobinson8712 2 года назад
Kyrie Irving's a very good player, but a top 75, not yet, he's Injury prone and barely played a full season
@ljpal18
@ljpal18 2 года назад
And not only can he not carry a squad, he's self destructive to a time.
@fortressofattitude665
@fortressofattitude665 2 года назад
Kyrie is a great player foh
@ljpal18
@ljpal18 2 года назад
@@fortressofattitude665 a great scorer*
@fortressofattitude665
@fortressofattitude665 2 года назад
@@ljpal18 naw player you obviously has some bias
@ljpal18
@ljpal18 2 года назад
@@fortressofattitude665 what makes him a great player?
@starkiller578
@starkiller578 2 года назад
If it it wasn’t for that shot we wouldn’t even be talking about this.
@northside4767
@northside4767 2 года назад
Outside of that one finals run in Cleveland, this this isn’t even remotely debatable.
@northside4767
@northside4767 2 года назад
@Jordan Carter Nine guys, Malcolm Brogdon and Mark Price are on the list too, that doesn’t make them top 75.
@felipe5955
@felipe5955 2 года назад
@Jordan Carter I can’t think of one memorable kyrie moment before or after Lebron. He’s a certified bucket but between injuries and other reasons not playing what else has he done?
@bigman7570
@bigman7570 2 года назад
@Jordan Carter I know you didn’t seriously say that KYRIE is the reason the championship came to Cleveland 😳
@felipe5955
@felipe5955 2 года назад
@Jordan Carter Your talking about a bunch of what’s ifs, couldas, and wouldas but it ain’t happen. I’m taking about facts, kyrie hasn’t done anything besides be a good scorers and have arguably the best handles ever. I’m not saying he isn’t an elite player
@willliam1420
@willliam1420 2 года назад
Kyrie is a great individual offense player. He's not a good defensive player, he's a worse team player. On top of all that, he's a nut case
@mbizzle4952
@mbizzle4952 2 года назад
I agree kyrie should be on the outskirts looking in. needs a bit more to become a top 75 ever.
@Gatorfan_Cavon
@Gatorfan_Cavon 2 года назад
💯💯💯
@joshjohnson1082
@joshjohnson1082 2 года назад
What more does he need to compete with guys who couldn't beat this eras higschool players?
@everettacheampong4892
@everettacheampong4892 2 года назад
@@joshjohnson1082 he needs accolades and consistency I my opinion. If your just going off of Pure Skill??, Kyrie would be on this list no question. But with skill and ability accolades have to go with it and his doesn't
@joshjohnson1082
@joshjohnson1082 2 года назад
@@everettacheampong4892 he has accolades. He the reason Cleveland got a chip. But why do acolades matter when talking about old era players? They have empty stats.......they were trash and their competition was trash. You could be from 1970 era and have 20 All team whatevers and still not be as good as q mid tier player now. Skill levels have evolved so drastically between then and now. I just don't understand how guys who just dribbled the ball in a circle get so much credit vs players who put on display skills that are unbelievable at times
@everettacheampong4892
@everettacheampong4892 2 года назад
@@joshjohnson1082 your right like I said if this were based off of skill he'd be in there no doubt. But if we're gonna be honest never at 1 point was Kyrie Considered a top 5 player as a matter of fact his in the 10-15 Range. And I'm sorry his accolades doesn't stack up against , CP3, Russ, Steph Dame etc. Not at any point was Kyrie Considered the best point guard at any point during his Career.
@InvestBetter.
@InvestBetter. 2 года назад
There's an argument for Kyrie. It's just not very good There's a much better argument for Dwight Howard over Bill Walton
@i_chosen_one_ips432
@i_chosen_one_ips432 2 года назад
How so? Damian lillard made the list. Kyrie has had good numbers like him and has even won a championship and is probably the most skilled player in the NBA with the greatest handles of all time
@Spidervenom23
@Spidervenom23 2 года назад
You can even said that D Rose has a better argument then Kyrie. He has a League Season MVP and Kyrie Doesn't. Also didn't his Bulls made to the Semi-Finals of the East twice and lost to Bron.
@davidlewis3208
@davidlewis3208 2 года назад
Lol.. Wow.. Nick was ready for this one! Can't argue with his points at all!
@DavidColemanKing
@DavidColemanKing 2 года назад
His reasons for Dame is ridiculous. Ky has a championship and Dame doesn't. Plus those older guys are not.... THEY ARE NOT AS GOOD AS KYRIE!!!
@tblackmusic7460
@tblackmusic7460 2 года назад
Wildes made great a point about the number one options that fell off the list, while the second fiddle guys off of championship teams make it on there… I don’t agree with taking number one options off, that didn’t win a chip, but carried their teams to play offs and had excellent careers…
@harryo82
@harryo82 2 года назад
Iguodala has zero credibility with take. It's not about image. Aside from one all-time shot in the finals. What has Kyrie done in his career? Never lead a team to the playoffs. Never lead the league in anything.
@pleaseshutup7053
@pleaseshutup7053 2 года назад
You forgot his Celtics years? You know who has never led his team to the playoffs without multiple all stars the chef
@harryo82
@harryo82 2 года назад
@@pleaseshutup7053 Nah, I didn't forget the Celtics. I said he's never "lead" a team to the playoffs. Celtics made the playoffs without him the year before and played better without him when he was on the roster. I didn't forget at all.
@Harun-cd6jz
@Harun-cd6jz 2 года назад
Andre Iguodala played against Kyrie Irving in the Finals so he has credibility. Andre Iguodala was negatively impacted and lost a ring due to Irving's shot. He has no reason to lie for a rival. What are your credentials and what is your credibility? ZERO. Kyrie cant lead a team? Kyrie Irving has been limited due to injuries and has been injured in 3/4 past seasons, what sample size are you saying to discredit his ability?
@pleaseshutup7053
@pleaseshutup7053 2 года назад
@@harryo82 you clearly did forget because Kyrie was on that team the year before leading them to the playoffs he got hurt towards the end of the season. And the year before they had Thomas an all star and year after Kemba and all star. You idiots don’t know anything. But hate
@joeywestside7297
@joeywestside7297 2 года назад
Klay should be on this list before Kyrie and a few others that are actually on the list
@jonathanleggett236
@jonathanleggett236 2 года назад
I know basketball but I have never in my life ever heard of a dude named Paul Arizin someone please educate me 😂
@GoofyFlan
@GoofyFlan 2 года назад
He played before the basketball bounced I think.
@Urbanboy23
@Urbanboy23 2 года назад
Paul George has more accolades and Playoff success than Dame and Kyrie as a Number #1
@abdulmoiz4350
@abdulmoiz4350 2 года назад
How many g7 winning shots pg have?
@duckmeatpigmeat406
@duckmeatpigmeat406 2 года назад
@@abdulmoiz4350 if it werent for lebrons superteams pg eould have reached the finals, cant say the same about kyrie, much less dame lol
@Quentavaise
@Quentavaise 2 года назад
@@duckmeatpigmeat406 you have a point
@bsmoove2800
@bsmoove2800 2 года назад
Paul George is a better player then Reggie Miller
@cmrpromotions5069
@cmrpromotions5069 2 года назад
@@bsmoove2800 dude delete your account
@bryanpadilla8826
@bryanpadilla8826 2 года назад
Idk about all this love for Kyrie. He didn't do anything without LeBron. Even in the East when it's been so weak.
@kamaljames8112
@kamaljames8112 2 года назад
Kyrie hit 1 shot years ago. Kyrie can’t carry a team, can’t lead a team, doesn’t uplift his teammates. He does not belong on that list. Him being left off is very accurate
@Kirbystare1992
@Kirbystare1992 2 года назад
Dame can’t either one wcf appearance?
@Odinson42
@Odinson42 2 года назад
Didn’t realize fancy dribbling was a criteria. Might as well put in the Professor and other street ballers in.
@bigman7570
@bigman7570 2 года назад
😂😂😂samething I’ve been saying, Kyrie just a ESPN highlight reel
@joshjohnson1082
@joshjohnson1082 2 года назад
50/40/90 💁‍♂️
@larrylindgren9484
@larrylindgren9484 2 года назад
@@joshjohnson1082 No. 47/39/88. Numbers for him are empty. He doesn't lead his team anywhere when he's your top dog. Even as terrible as GS was last year. Curry lead that terrible team to a playoff game. When in his career anywhere ever has Kyrie lead a team to a playoff? Never. He a shinny new car without a engine. Oh it looks good but goes not where without a lot of help.
@joshjohnson1082
@joshjohnson1082 2 года назад
@@larrylindgren9484 lebron has no chip in cleavland with kyrie who averaged the same amount of points in the playoffs as the "2nd" best player in history in his prime.........kyrie doesn't have to be a leader. Most guys ahead of him on this list didn't "lead" their team......qlot of them weren't even the top player on yhe team some were like the 3rd best player but yeah let's move the goal post because you don't like the guy for whatever reason. He's a champion and a baller that's better than Tleast half the guys on that list.
@joshjohnson1082
@joshjohnson1082 2 года назад
@@larrylindgren9484 yes. 2021 season he wqs 50/40/90 check the stats buddy
@cel6682
@cel6682 2 года назад
Media Bias and team dynamic effects how players are looked at. Kyrie was better than Steph in the playoffs but no one brings that up.
@antoniocaballero3976
@antoniocaballero3976 2 года назад
Nick Wright has gotten me thinking about why people say Apples to oranges I can name a bunch of ways to compare them. Similar size, both fruits, both have seeds inside of them, orange is a shade from red Apples to bolling balls made more sense
@keithr.4645
@keithr.4645 2 года назад
😂😂 true
@northside4767
@northside4767 2 года назад
“Apples to oranges”, is used when comparing things that are vaguely similar, but a little too different to be directly comparable. “Apples to bowling balls” however, would be used when things are so different that they shouldn’t even be brought up together.
@antoniocaballero3976
@antoniocaballero3976 2 года назад
@@northside4767 Most people use apples to oranges to describe huge differences
@funnywhiteroots
@funnywhiteroots 2 года назад
The show is so good now with Chris Broussard there instead of Brandon
@OnlyOneGodJohn316
@OnlyOneGodJohn316 2 года назад
Why did Brandon leave?
@fortressofattitude665
@fortressofattitude665 2 года назад
Now it’s time to get rid of Nick
@zeewest5597
@zeewest5597 2 года назад
Kyrie, Klay, TMac, VC & D.Howard vs Nate Archibald, Paul Arizin, Hal Greer, Jerry Lucas & Lenny Wilkens 🤔😂
@RocksDXebec223
@RocksDXebec223 2 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣 sheesh I’m taking that first team easy
@zeewest5597
@zeewest5597 2 года назад
@@RocksDXebec223 like cmon 😂 the first team gone smoke teams in the league now prime for prime.
@Ashashashash193
@Ashashashash193 2 года назад
At the time he tweeted Iggy must’ve thought the list was active players not all time
@luv2ruck770
@luv2ruck770 2 года назад
You can't argue Kyrie has a place on this list, if Dwight didn't make the list.
@brendanbloom3366
@brendanbloom3366 2 года назад
If Steph and dame made it than so should kyrie
@ZACKSTACK1204
@ZACKSTACK1204 2 года назад
@@brendanbloom3366 He’s not on Curry’s level career wise, not even close
@brendanbloom3366
@brendanbloom3366 2 года назад
@@ZACKSTACK1204 he is.
@ZACKSTACK1204
@ZACKSTACK1204 2 года назад
@@brendanbloom3366 Rundown their accolades and there’s no comparison
@brendanbloom3366
@brendanbloom3366 2 года назад
@@ZACKSTACK1204 compare their actual basketball ability. Their resumes are circumstancial. Team accomplishments and subjective media voted awards don't make you better.
@Mr_B79
@Mr_B79 2 года назад
I agree w/ Nick, for like the first time in my life.. Now if we made a 75 most potential seldom lived up to list, Kyrie is on that one...
@Qbjohnny13
@Qbjohnny13 2 года назад
I could listen to Nick and Broussard talk ball all day
@RisingSun0401
@RisingSun0401 2 года назад
I'm putting Dwight, Klay, Parker, Ginobili, Big Ben, T-Mac, Vince & PG13 all over Kyrie. This is a non-discussion
@ljpal18
@ljpal18 2 года назад
I would even take Deron Williams over him. At least he lead a team regularly in the loaded west.
@PPM209
@PPM209 2 года назад
Kyrie is top 10 team cancer of all time
@bsmoove2800
@bsmoove2800 2 года назад
He's still top 75 he'll wear out dam there every point guard on this list
@EdKaneInternationalMale
@EdKaneInternationalMale 2 года назад
Hey Nick. What’s going on with the new hairdo bruh!?! 😂😂😅
@jeremiahwilliams5747
@jeremiahwilliams5747 2 года назад
And Ray Allen has the most 3 point makes in history.
@larrylindgren9484
@larrylindgren9484 2 года назад
So? The 3 point shot only came into the lead to 79-80. And now with players only jacking up 3s Allen won't be there long. It's all about jacking up 3s. It doesn't matter if 65% of them are bricks (35% is the league average). Keep jacking them up. You don't win doing it. So it's odd they even do it.
@jeremiahwilliams5747
@jeremiahwilliams5747 2 года назад
@@larrylindgren9484 none of that takes away from his achievement. And your point is?
@MrStopSpend
@MrStopSpend 2 года назад
Kyrie is the people's champ... Kyrie don't care about the system standards. But it's fair to say you can't put him in top 75.. because of all they say. But Kyrie does affect winning. BkN cannot win without him. If we get Kyrie showing up all season it's trouble
@sparks1792
@sparks1792 Год назад
He is not the people champs tf lmao 😂😂😂
@ianbahamonde6679
@ianbahamonde6679 7 месяцев назад
How’s this take age 💀💀he hasn’t won anything since lebrón
@ianbahamonde6679
@ianbahamonde6679 7 месяцев назад
Hasn’t had a single good playoff run
@bxlegenddeemoney6056
@bxlegenddeemoney6056 2 года назад
How is Bernard King not on the list
@artificialintelligence0101
@artificialintelligence0101 8 месяцев назад
Jokic went from not top 75 to top 20 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@gerair23
@gerair23 2 года назад
uncle Drew is TOP 50! I prefer to see a Kyrie game than to see many who are in that top 75 play. It's like when I prefer to see MJ than Magic or Bird. basketball is entertainment and there are players who take it to another level.
@trillboosted5916
@trillboosted5916 2 года назад
top 50 you don’t know basketball bro
@ahmedmeshref614
@ahmedmeshref614 2 года назад
People talk about kyrie not being able to lead a team to a chip. He only had 2 seasons to do so. But i’ve never seen dame in the finals, never seen cp3 win a chip, never seen russ lead a team to the finals as the number 1 option for their entire careers. So stop using this argument please
@kohsmoger1567
@kohsmoger1567 2 года назад
Cp3 and dame never had Lebron or KD on their team.
@CJ22166
@CJ22166 2 года назад
Wildes is hilarious lol
@djaramillo09
@djaramillo09 9 месяцев назад
LeBron not beating the Warriors without Kyrie. Imagine if he never got hurt their time in Cleveland. There’s so many what if moments through NBA history
@bsmoove2800
@bsmoove2800 2 года назад
See this is the problem they make a list calling it the top 75 greatest but then add some of these old players that they know some of these players after them was better players and dare call it the 75 greatest
@jacques8439
@jacques8439 2 года назад
Bro that's exactly what I said because technically if you wanna be real this honestly isn't even the REAL top 75 because they didn't even take anyone off just left the same old players on there just added 25 more if it was really about the REAL top 75 then they would take the players off that doesn't belong on there no more because there might be a couple better players now that belong on the list before them I'm just saying how can you have a list like this when they don't even consider taking some of the older players off that probably/most likely wasn't as good as some of the players that didn't and should have made it
@larrylindgren9484
@larrylindgren9484 2 года назад
You just don't get it. Were you great in your time. The guys from the past were great in their time. Cousy was magical with the basketball for his time. Maybe not for this time but that's not the list. Were you great long enough in your time. Kyrie hasn't been barely good in his time. You can't even say he's be great for even 1 whole year. So yes he shouldn't be on a top 75 player list. It's about who was great for their time. Kyrie has not ever.
@jacques8439
@jacques8439 2 года назад
@@larrylindgren9484 no it's not about that's it's called "Top 75 Players Of ALL TIME'" stop trying to change the narrative none of that matters what your talking about their are a couple of players that should of been taken off for some other players that deserves to be on their more especially if they saying the best of the best which they are because like said it's called 'Top 75 Players Of ALL TIME" so they should put the pure best no matter the era
@longhitter84
@longhitter84 2 года назад
Take out all of those still playing and put them when they're done.
@mikepanton
@mikepanton 2 года назад
The had no chance to win more chips in Cleveland bc Love's contract would have dragged the team down and it was doing before Bron left...unless they chose not to extend him. But still, it's tough to get people to come to Cleveland
@babystephena3773
@babystephena3773 2 года назад
It's a Lebron's team. They will sure find a way to get rid of that contract..
@RJames-uy2mt
@RJames-uy2mt 2 года назад
How was Kyrie the closer when Lebron had more game winners while they played together? 🤔
@i_chosen_one_ips432
@i_chosen_one_ips432 2 года назад
Closing a game isn’t always hitting the last shot. Closing a game would be making sure the team wins in a close game.
@PHRESHIDENT
@PHRESHIDENT 2 года назад
The media hates kyrie and it’s so infuriating. Not everyone will be a opinionless mindless sheep
@dramatish
@dramatish 2 года назад
Si you think he's top 75 of all time?
@hysehauzzzzy
@hysehauzzzzy 2 года назад
Hes the third best player in brooklyn.... chris is crazy
@damauntewalters3
@damauntewalters3 2 года назад
So why is AD on the list??
@albertopineda462
@albertopineda462 2 года назад
kyrie may not be top 75 stat-wise, but when kyrie is on the same floor with dame, curry, and any other pg in the league, he's always getting the best of them
@youngcalimigga
@youngcalimigga 2 года назад
They took him off the top 75 because of the Covid if u look it up
@eleegs
@eleegs 2 года назад
Yes, but also a problem for making sure the NBA screens it’s players to have at least an elementary school education with a 4th grade reading and comprehension level
@larrylindgren9484
@larrylindgren9484 2 года назад
How can he be the the top 75 player list when he's never ever even been said to be the best PG in the NBA. Probably not even top 5. He's not even the best player on the teams he's been on. When he's your solo star the only thing he leads you to is number 1 draft picks. When he's hurt and he's hurt a lot the teams he's on play better without him. So how is this a top 75 player ever? Kyrie is a joke that does keep you laughing.
@T2PV7
@T2PV7 2 года назад
Kyrie definitely effects winning. But only If he’s the no.2 guy!
@bsmoove2800
@bsmoove2800 2 года назад
There's a lot of similar players on the list
@sanoodilon4563
@sanoodilon4563 2 года назад
Even as a number 2 he's doubtful. I personally believe he was great with the Cavs because he was with LeBron. I think no other superstars can win with Kyrie as a No.2. Other No.2s Can fail to lead the team to much. For example i think Dame would be a great No2. I don't think teams could be better without them though.
@T2PV7
@T2PV7 2 года назад
@@sanoodilon4563 solid point!
@ljpal18
@ljpal18 2 года назад
But lebron made the finals the year after they dealt kyrie for nothing. So how impact is he I wonder.
@sanoodilon4563
@sanoodilon4563 2 года назад
@@ljpal18 It was against the golden state warriors with 4HOF in their prime. They were gonna lose with or without Kyrie
@tyyoung8264
@tyyoung8264 2 года назад
Sorry but , I don’t have Dame over Kyrie
@bjensen
@bjensen 2 года назад
The biggest difference is the way carrying and traveling are (not called). Almost all of Kyrie's moves would be whistled if we went by old rules.
@hollywoodunreleased1310
@hollywoodunreleased1310 2 года назад
Yea but u could say that for everyone in the modern era not just kyrie tho
@TheAwgga
@TheAwgga 2 года назад
Kyrie is top 50 players in nba history are you kidding me him and ray Allen I will take kyrie all the time
@nasMFkhan
@nasMFkhan 2 года назад
I fkin love that kw doesn't YELL. Thank you
@memoirsofalegend5472
@memoirsofalegend5472 2 года назад
No way Kyrie over Klay foh
@shak8277
@shak8277 2 года назад
Lil Isiah Thomas 💀💀💀💀
@markbantz9699
@markbantz9699 2 года назад
Tmac was unbelievable before he was hurt!
@AdsackGames
@AdsackGames 2 года назад
As a celtics fan, there is no way kyrie should be on this list
@33corsaire
@33corsaire Год назад
Last I checked “handles” doesn’t translate to winning… Kyrie has proven he can’t lead a team to pretty much anything… He’s very skilled but this ain’t a top 75 most skilled players list…
@Atlas365247
@Atlas365247 2 года назад
Kyrie is in his prime now. 1st 40-50-90 last yr
@rambo410
@rambo410 2 года назад
How about Alonzo Mourning, Kevin Johnson, etc
@debee1471
@debee1471 2 года назад
If you can make a solid argument of being the greatest of ALL TIME at something (scoring, assists, blocks, etc.) like Kyrie can for having the best handles of all time then you should make this list. Although, he just barely makes it on my list
@dkhafre444
@dkhafre444 2 года назад
Jenna be looking like she smoked a fat joint as she just be sitting there listening to the guys talk. Lol.
@CharlesCinco5
@CharlesCinco5 2 года назад
If SAS was on this show and hear Nick's ANALYSIS of Kyrie and the 0 vote thing, I guarantee you SAS would walk out and yell and call his take an analysis
@O4C209
@O4C209 2 года назад
If you've never been considered the best at your position, how you a top all time?
@jessielopez53
@jessielopez53 2 года назад
Give me Tony Parker over Dame
@asura3967
@asura3967 2 года назад
For me it’s simple if dame made it on the list people such as Tmac,Klay Thompson and Dwight Howard SHOULD BE ON THE LIST PERIOD it’s a disgrace to put dame above any of those guys because they’ve all accomplished more than him
@InvestBetter.
@InvestBetter. 2 года назад
Vinc-anity, Bernard King and Dwight Howard should be on this list There was a time, in 1985, where you could make the argument that Bernard King was the best player in the NBA, if we're talking peaks. He was unstoppable when he won the scoring title. He was an early version of James Harden, except he played from the post/elbow, not from the top
@larrylindgren9484
@larrylindgren9484 2 года назад
Before he hurt his knee King was a nasty scorer.
@joeybagodoughnuts1907
@joeybagodoughnuts1907 2 года назад
It’s top 75 “NBA” players not “Basketball” Players. If it was all about basketball then yes but this is about NBA greatness.
@ethanmccabe8740
@ethanmccabe8740 2 года назад
No scoring titles, no assist titles, couldn’t lead a team to the playoffs without another star (and a better one at that), no major award votes. If skills, a single title as #2, and the clutch shot of 2016 gets you into the top 75, then sure. I’d take Dwight over him all time
@dallasINtokyo
@dallasINtokyo 2 года назад
Can we get a barber for Nick? Love you guys
@Bigkool31o
@Bigkool31o 2 года назад
I don’t think Kyrie has the greatest handle ever I truly believe it’s rafer Alston he just held back
@lanafelix8649
@lanafelix8649 2 года назад
Kyrie place in history is there but not among all time greats
@OsirisJames
@OsirisJames 2 года назад
The not so passive aggressive Kyrie Irving hate is real folks. This is a really stupid comparison.
@rohanmart106
@rohanmart106 2 года назад
mans said little isaiah thomas 😭💀
@Darius_Icewood
@Darius_Icewood 2 года назад
Isaiah Thomas was great just enough room for himself lol He wasn't "that great" to have a prodigy of him viewed as a great player lol
@mindyourbuisness8104
@mindyourbuisness8104 2 года назад
Anytime kyrie has been the best player on a team is team is a lottery team. He ain't even close
@7srchoed
@7srchoed 2 года назад
The difference between Kylie and every player mentioned in this segment, both on the 75 list and off of it, I have never seen Kyrie make his teammates better. Rodman, Parish, McGrady, I’ve seen their greatness elevate the play or role of their teammates. Never seen that from Kyrie.
@pleaseshutup7053
@pleaseshutup7053 2 года назад
Some of the old heads should have been dropped
@larrylindgren9484
@larrylindgren9484 2 года назад
@@pleaseshutup7053 But they were great for their time. You can't say well X doesn't shoot 3s like Curry. Well when X played there was no 3 point shot. What were you in your time. Kyrie has never ever been said to be even in the top 5 of his time. So how is this a top 75 player ever when you aren't even the top 5 of your own time. Some players would plug and play from the past easily. Wilt would ruin the NBA now. His skills worked then they'd even be better now with zero centers in the league. As Jerry West said, "if Wilt played today. He'd make a today's NBA centers look pretty foolish." West kind of knows basketball I'd say. Your judge were they great in their time.
@CurtisBallard
@CurtisBallard 2 года назад
A lot of good points. I'm not sure what to think anymore.
@kalleyskywalker5279
@kalleyskywalker5279 2 года назад
Only number 1 options should be on the top 75 list.
@artificialintelligence0101
@artificialintelligence0101 8 месяцев назад
Robert Horry made about 7 of those shots and has 7 rings
@smokeythebear201
@smokeythebear201 2 года назад
While I dont always agree with Broussard (I do more than I dont) I believe he has the best takes in sports. While he is not always the most flashy or entertaining I think he is best at contextualizing situations and giving thorough measured opinions.
@SP-ve1im
@SP-ve1im 2 года назад
Can't believe it. Nick is spot on lol
@edwardashfield1289
@edwardashfield1289 2 года назад
They needed to do a better job qualifying what the list is - it is how good players were in respect to their era. If this was the top 75 skilled players ever it would be almost exclusively dudes from the last 20 years plus a few generational guys eg Jordan Kareem Magic.
@joshjohnson1082
@joshjohnson1082 2 года назад
This right here!!! Dudes on this list couldn't beat my local high-school squad let alone hold a candle to someone of Kyrie's skill level
@thejeffro
@thejeffro 9 месяцев назад
How tf did Dragic get a MVP vote?
@ChroniclerOfJudah
@ChroniclerOfJudah 2 года назад
how do you guys think Damian Lillard deserved to be on this list but not Kyrie?
@youtuber_00786
@youtuber_00786 2 года назад
Kyrie should be ahead of Dame and Westbrook
@northside4767
@northside4767 2 года назад
Not even close
@GoofyFlan
@GoofyFlan 2 года назад
Joe Dumars should be ahead of Dame.
@ronelbertbilog9636
@ronelbertbilog9636 2 года назад
Nick not saying he does not affect winning. He affects winning as number 2 guy..not as The guy..
@mahirwemoses8007
@mahirwemoses8007 2 года назад
Iggy’s been smoking a lot since he got back in Cali
@sikelelambatha5270
@sikelelambatha5270 Год назад
Good thing they didn't put Klay, his arrogant and sarcastic 🤨
@chebarthompson4030
@chebarthompson4030 2 года назад
He never carried a team but he went 2-0 in the conference finals before injury when they were number 1 seed
@ericeiserloh8170
@ericeiserloh8170 2 года назад
I don't know Nick Wright much as a sport's analyst, but I came up with the same egregious snubs that he has: Sidney Moncrief was a tier one player for 6 seasons on both ends of the court, which a lot of guys on the list can't touch. Even more-so Tracy McGrady, Bernard King, Dwight Howard, and I'll throw in another one- Chris Webber. These were are MVP candidates at some point, and a bunch of guys on the list have never come close to that. There are, of course others. If you want to consider Tony Parker, what about Dennis Johnson, the best player Bird said he ever played with, and that was when he was past his prime. What about Big Bob Lanier, or Alonzo Mourning? What about Grant Hill or David Thompson? Most of these guys were hurt by lack of longevity, or in a few cases by having long careers made up of two phases: Pre and post injury. Who has mostly been left off are players who were tier 1 (top 5 or top 10 in the league) for 5 or 6 years for players who were top 25-30 for a longer period, which isn't very satisfying to me.
@bigman7570
@bigman7570 2 года назад
If Kyrie had never played with Lebron and won that championship he’d be Kemba Walker
@bigsr.644
@bigsr.644 2 года назад
Should been 100 that’s how good the leagues has been since the first list. All those guys should be on it including Vince TMac Howard Kyrie Sidney King Parker Manu and I’m missing a bunch they all deserve it. You can’t tell me Air Canada and TMac weren’t better in their prime than half the list 🥱
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