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I feel like the writers didnt care about the main couple, and thus did not make us care. Friends to lover is such a great trope when done well, they could have given us flashback of them as kids, make Colin work more to convince Penelope, having her reject him at first, you could have seen him fight for her more, spend more time with her...Like honestly, they were so many ways they could have made their story better, but they choose to spend lots of times on mostly useless storyline. Dont get me wrong I enjoyed some of them, but the main force of Bridgerton is supposed to be romance, not plot or social commentary. When they try to do everything, everything end up being average imo.
to be fair, theres only 8 episodes. but ur right, if they focused less on the side plots and more on the lead couple i think the polin story could be so much better
Yeah! My thoughts exactly. I was so excited to see the bridgertons also interacting more, like maybe Ant giving Colin advice concerning Colin's feelings towards Pen and maybe Kate teasing Ant for his not great advice or Idk Ben making fun of Colin because Pen is enjoying time with her suitor, because of what Colin said last season and now feels towards her or how he helped pen get a suitor in the first place... The series is called Bridgerton for heaven's sake. Give me more hilarious and sweet family moments. Not some unnecessary side plots I could not care less for. And it's one thing for Pen to forgive Colin relatively fast, but couldn't Colin at least get scolded by his family for his careless words?? Sure Colin was a bit jealous, but were is the sweet suffering that eventually pays off nicely in their lovestory?? Colin basically just gets what he wants after ruining Pen's proposal... he did nothing to earn Pen.
I completely agree..there was no flow in the story..they could have done soo many things to make this the best season but they made it worse than season2
I love Polin, but in this season the leads are underdeveloped. We didn't see enough of Colin's depth as a character and he's realization of his feelings towards Penelope. They had some cute scene's together but the direction and the pacing didn't do them any justice, to me they didn't feel like the leads of the season. I hope for part 2 to be better for polin, i was so excited for them.
Also, what is Colin's occupation? A man is to realistically have a vocation and a home in oder to have a wife. Is he going to marry Pen and live at home with his family? I honestly wonder the same for Benedict. A man is supposed to have his own household and an occupation acceptable for a gentleman.
I feel the show makers did not have enough confidence in putting Nicola as the face of season 3. Just how Pheobe and Simon fit right into the pop vanity and the showrunners acted as hypocrites luring us in for a Polin love story and yet there was less of pen’s lovestory and hell lot of Mondrich drama, Marcus drama, Collin’s - let’s make him look like the new rack in town- drama, cressida’s struggle drama, Prudence and Phillipas pregnancy drama ……OMG And so much of Francesca & Benedict with their side love trajectory Did the showrunners really not consider how in love are we with Pen’s character! There was hardly any depth in the colin tutoring her to charm, hardly any time to give couple of more shots for that. We get the pen already burnt for collin in the last 2 seasons and this was collin’s turn to feel the burn… but did he burn enough? What was with the unnecessary naked brothel scenes, we get polin wasn’t going to have nude scenes, but that’s not what we are looking for! Stop pushing nude scenes down our throats just for the sake of it! Now coming back to pen & collin- they have been friends for ever. The could have shown it evolve into care and temderness and longing from collin’s end to pen feeling in her gut that collin might have started seeing her differently. Some shots of them interacting with each other between crossing the line and yet not! OMG- that carriage scene could have been a gem but it was so damn rushed. Like one moment they are friends and the other he is reaching her up the skirt🤦♀️ Like seriously? Pen deserves the same vanity and attention ! I only have a jibe with the show runners for not giving pen even 4 full episodes to have a good plot development where as the previous couples had a whole season for them! Nicola, you rock!
Yeah…….they low key kinda didn’t make them the main characters so that when people don’t really like them they will like the other characters. But I love them……they should have made Colin sweat a bit more
Exactly my thought..how could they not see we all love Pen and wanted to see Colin completely fall in love with her..I just did not feel Colin deserved her , there was no build up or a proper story, everything for there for the sake of it
I mean he isn’t really on the same page where emotions are concerned, one helpful mercy kiss and he starts tempting over pen, no real build up to the ‘event’, fingers the girl madly in love with him for ages and then proposes her to marry right after! Really! They wasted half the show time on other characters life, even a 10 minute extra screen time between them in first 3 episodes would have given enough build up time for a convincing passionate carriage play. It just felt like a teen fantasy foreplay in the end that has no head or tail. This could have been the most beautiful love story.
I think some of the lead up to acting on their feelings was sidestepped because of how long they've known each other. Like once the feelings were confessed they immediately acted on it. I think that does make sense for their characters. Still, I would have much preferred to see more care and attention to the buildup. They deserved that!
Penelope wasn’t developed at all in comparison to some other characters, polin didn’t feel like the main couple at all, at times i felt like Francesca was the real protagonist and polin was just there as a side story. We didn’t really get to see them grow and the confession scene was all of a sudden, we didn’t get the slow burn. It was disappointing tbh but i wasn’t sure if the disappointment came from getting too spoiled ir having high expectations for this couple, its sad bc they were my favorite :( i ended up skipping so many scenes that were unnecessary and boring. 1st season was the best one so far tbh
I agree I was disappointed that the season wasn’t exclusively about Polin! Not only was it shorter than both previous seasons but it was also shared with another Bridgerton??
soooo true! *spoilers* and what gets me is that the “ confession “ scene wasnt even a confession 😭 he was still tip toeing over his words by asking her what she would do IF he liked her .. like how r u going to marry someone and u still cant be upfront with them abt how u feel? smh. my fav trope is friends to lovers and as of now, im disappointed. hopefully the next 4 eps will amp things up.
I skipped sooo many scenes as well. Bridgerton is supposed to be light hearted, something to watch and not think about our day to day life. I am not opposed to social commentary in a series, but bridgerton is not one of those series. If it turns out that francesca's future love interest is a women it wouldn't make much sense in the social context of the time. Even though the bridgerton family are open, francesca will have to hide her new love, because it is a women. I really hope part 2 is better, part 1 was a disappointment.
Deborah, I agree with your review. To many plots crammed into these first 4 episodes. The first mistake made was skipping Benedict's story. While they told his love story they could have continued to explain Colin and Pen's relationship. The first 2 season's had flashbacks which explained the back story on the characters. It would have made more sense to include that instead of all the other plots which make no sense. This is poor writing and decisions made by the powers that be. Colin and Penelope are supposed to be the stars of this season. Their story is being rushed, and overshadowed by these other plots. I am very disappointed after all of the hype. IMO, NETFLIX is making a huge blunder splitting up the season. Now it will become even more fragmented than it currently is. I am so disappointed in the writing and editing of this season. They tried to spice up this season by making Colin into a "rake" which is completely out of character for him. Instead it overshadows a beautiful love story.
I completely agree and that carriage scene that everyone is talking about? I don’t get it. It lacked passion to me and was worse than a fake Hallmark kiss.
1. Colin's lessons to Pen were revealed way too fast to the ton = less Polin scenes. 2. The show focused more on preparing for the Lady Whistledown wild goose chase, leading us to watching more of the Mondrich family and Cressida scenes to know their motivation as to why they want the 5,000 pounds reward. What I don't understand is that they could have done both things with equal amount of care and attention: S1-S2 was actually also given 8 episodes only, and the pacing has always been great for each love story. The Mondrich family, the Featheringtons, etc. also had scenes of their own at the same time. Per episode is 50 minutes and some lasts A FULL HOUR. For this season however, each episode are only 50 minutes long. Each. This only means they could have easily added more Polin scenes if they wanted to, and it would only equal to an hour and 15 minutes for a few episodes just like what S1 and 2 did! So it would have been the perfect opportunity to make Colin's lessons last a bit longer; Pen gets to successfully talk to MORE bachelors; a few more Lord Debling interactions, all while keeping the Mondrich, Cressida, Francesca, and Benedict scenes that we see now - they don't even need to remove anything. THEN they could finally do the big public reveal of Colin helping out Pen THEN the moonlight kiss scene THEN the pining THEN the carriage scene.
What I felt was missing: 1.- More lesson time. 2.- Penepole looking more desperate, perhaps using Lady Whistledown as a tool in his favor, until the climax where he has to use her against her (As it half happened). 3.- More intrigue regarding the use of Lady Whistledown. This is Penelope and Colin's season, we should have experienced that stress of writing and publishing gossip. Scenes of her listening, writing and her relationship with the publisher. Maybe a flashback of how it all started. To tell the truth, an arch. This season's trope was friends to lovers. They could have made the motivation of Lady Whistledown was born with Colin, to intertwine the romance with Penelope's double life. Anyway... This season could have been quite intense with Lady Whistledown who was supposed to be the protagonist and this season she almost didn't appear.
@@dindigo. It's just that this was supposed to be lady whistledown season. It was the best time to launch a plot of intrigue with persecutions, revealed secrets, revelations and mysteries with Penelope and Colin in the middle of the hurricane, while the most intimate part of their friendship was revealed. And it's not that this series couldn't do something like that, the first season there were like two duels, three physical fights... I mean, a season with more intrigue and mysteries to put Penelope in front of the drama, like Lady Whistledown, would have been ideal. The problem more than the subplots, I think, was the season division. Instead of having 8 episodes to develop the intrigue, romance and subplot. They decided to take 4 for the romance, and I think 4 to reveal Lady Whistledown. Which is terrible, it should have been a continuous 8 hour sequence.
@@JMTgpro Hits the spot with the 8 hour sequence!! They probably wrote the show with the division already in mind, so it's all deliberately fast. Very annoying.
It felt rushed. I was wondering why they felt the need to introduce or put in unnecessary stuff. Lady Danbury has a brother, and Benedict is with a woman that isn't Sophie. Why do I care? Colin's jealousy wasn't overly built up while he is raking himself everywhere. Overall I still enjoyed it. I just didn't feel the romance. I enjoyed Francesca more.
The Benedict storyline and the Mondrich's were easily the most useless subplots. Why do we care about a family that isn't the Bridgertons, or a love interest that isn't Benedict's main love interest? Same with Cressida's parents.
I am so happy that someone said it. I liked to know to that Cressida is not just a mean person and I also love the mondrichs but why were they coming between the main storyline. For violet, I would literally prefer a spin off where we see her younger self falling in love and paralleled to it her older self falling in love again, kind of like they did for Charlotte. But DON'T INCLUDE IT WHEN I NEED TO SEE POLIN. also, WHY Wasn't there any interaction between Lady Danbury and Penelope, I wanted that so much . This season feels so incomplete and fast. I mean nicola and luke did their best to show the intense feelings but it isn't their fault that the show is pacing them. I believe it when Colin confessed his feelings, I believed it when he was pining for her but the carraige scene should have been episode 5th or 6th. I would have loved to see their first meeting, even though I really liked the way Colin described it. I did wish that they showed Colin being on his travels and then sleeping around. They had immense chemistry but the build up was missing and everything was just because of the actors.
Have done so many re-watches and lady Danbury and Penelope have never talked to each other. And they are like besties in the books. I know it really doesn’t kick off until book 4, but not even a hello is passed between them. Also, lad Danbury has been a mentor to the love interest in season 1 and 2 and even a little in the spinoff because she gives Queen Charlotte the talk and helps he navigate her fears about consummating the marriage. Like she is there all over the mentoring thing. And she mentors the hell out of Penelope in the books. She helps Penelope get more confident. That wasn’t from a man loving her. That was from a woman relating to her and helping her see that she is all that and a bag of chips. Penelope even names her first born after her and they haven’t had a conversation yet? Did the writers read book 4?
I’m with you on the Mondrich family 😬😬 I also don’t care about Lady Danbury’s brother and Violet. Tbh, I only cared for Polin really. It was hard to sit through anything else for me although Francesca was sort of interesting
Exactly!!!! The beef that Lady Danbury has for her brother is being dragged out and unnecessary. In fact, it feels like they have lessened her badassery and have her sitting up under the Queen too much.
I feel ya! My major complaint even though I loved part 1 is there isn't enough of Polin!!! There wasn't enough romance of them getting to know the new versions of themselves. Take about their feelings like they did in season 2.
Also the journal scene should’ve been a place to develop Colin. Was too short. Should’ve been them sitting down and having a really huge conversation about Colin’s writing. After Pen says “You writing is really good”, Colin should’ve responded with shock, like “really?”. “Really. I would love to read more of it should you allow me.” Colin lights up with excitement immediately, “in fact, that I feel is not my best writing.” Pen lights up with excitement in response. “Really?” With the bandage still in his hand, he stands up to grab the journal off the desk and flips the page to his descriptions of Paris, walking down the street and contemplating his purpose in life and how he fits onto this planet. Something that gave insight to his brain without him fully talking about it. Pen reads it, hands him back the journal and asks him “have you ever thought about pursuing writing?” Colin responds with a solemn “heavens no. I do not think it wise to condemn others to such a horrible fate. I only showed you because I know you will not judge. You are the kindest person I’ve ever had the pleasure of meeting, Penelope..” Pen responds with an earnest “you should know I do not throw out compliments just for anyone. Besides, if you do not believe in yourself, then who will?”. Colin stares at her longingly, and is like “Yes, indeed. You are quite right Penelope.” Penelope is like “I should go”. Then she leaves and Colin is left to stare after her
I love that 'condemn others to such a horrible fate' line. It's being self-deprecating about his own writing, but it can also imply that other uses of writing have been overshadowed by Whistledown's writing.
They should have followed more of the book for sure! Could have show flashbacks as well. I love this season regardless but I find myself seeking them more. This season introduced too many characters at once and how it was shot felt rushed.
They shot themselves in the foot with having 2 parts. It didn’t give enough time to make the cliff hanger very believable. I think it needed at least one more episode to really set in that they are in love etc etc. Not to mention, some choices they made, like having people find out about him coaching her and having that result in them not doing it anymore really killed the momentum they had going. I don’t understand the point of doing that? At least have it be a secret for a bit longer, but again, the 4 episode limit made it really hard for the pacing to make sense
The first oolala moment with Colin in the bed with the ladies…I immediately went full Violet momma-bear and shouted at the screen “COLIN BRIDGERTON!!” And yes, the carriage scene…he should have professed his growing love but lifting her skirts, it was a little confusing because this is PEN, whom he admired greatly, so he should have shown her respect by telling her ‘look I want you, but we should do this right - let’s get married’.
I definitely agree that the carriage scene was out of character for both Colin and Pen. Pen who was a wall flower; shy and unsure is suddenly without protest, allowing Colin to finger blast her in a carriage ride.
I find it honestly kind of insulting the way they handled these first 4 episodes. I didn't come in as a die-hard Polin shipper, but I knew they had a pretty dedicated fandom & was excited to see why bc I hadn't read the books. So if /I/ was disappointed, I can only imagine how disappointed some Polin shippers are. They fed us so well in the first 2 seasons in regards to the main couple, but this season so far has given us crumbs. I didn't read the books but I did dive into a lot of explainers on the books so I had an idea of what to look forward to. It feels like all the writers did was try to hit the Big Scenes in the book & didn't really put much effort bridging those scenes together. I hate it because I love Nicola Coughlan and I was really looking forward to her getting all her own season, and I was excited to really be immersed in their dynamic because this is the first season where we've been given the chance to already know and love both characters beforehand. Instead it seems like people behind the scenes got lazy since Polin already has a pre-established relationship. Also this all feels lowkey kind of fatphobic. Because there should be no reason for them to have done Polin dirty like this, not when they have some of the most vocal & rabid shippers. If anything they would've gone above and beyond to cram in as much Polin as possible. But the one time their lead isn't tall & skinny, suddenly they're cutting down on the main couple's scenes? Let's not play like this, Netflix. It won't do you any good.
I agree with your fatphobic comment. I think they managed to do Franseca and Kilmartin so well with such little screen time so the fact that they flopped so hard on polin is sus.
Agreed!!! This must have been an issue. As a thicker woman, I’m offended by the hurried love scene that we’ve been waiting on for over a year. I found these first four episodes disappointing it was nothing like the first two season’s with more calendar development.
It’s a tough thing to tackle I’m sure. Fatphobia and desirability politics from fans are real. Yes it would be the noble thing to do to give them same air time as past couples but would the public have truly received that well? No. I think they wanted to wheel the concept out carefully all things considered
PERIOD! This is the Era of POLIN! And the fact that after the end of each season we barley see the characters ever again.... is actually so disappointing. It sucks that they have a new director for this season because the vibes of the show feels so OFF! Like why introduce so many plot lines when there is a THRIVING established story line!!! I needed to see Pen and Colin talk about their feelings before jumping into a proposal 😭
I hated how there was no bridgerton family in Brdigerton series. The main focus should have been the main couple, 2nd should have been other Bidgerton family members. I also hated how they sent Kanthony away and we didn't find them in any other episode.
It seems Netflix, want the fans of Bridgerton to be subscribed for at least two months. They are so not ashamed when they post the dates on the advertisements.
Hmm, I wonder if the showrunner and producers were aware of the split season when S3 was written and shot? It might've forced them to re-edit in a way that felt less than organic to the storylines and character arcs. I'm withholding judgement until Part 2 airs.
the moment i realised the carriage scene was happening i was soooo upset because Colin did not do enough to deserve that. Another thing that annoyed me was the lessons being over so quickly. I was expecting a little more considering it was framed as like Polin's main storyline for part 1.
The random threescore did feel force and I am not sure if it was purposively or not but it connects to the fact that Colin himself felt completely out of place. He thought that those were the things that a guy need to do to become more manly or be praised. Also, the way he described hooking up in his journal, it felt like he enjoyed it but he wanted real emotional intimacy. I mean when pen reads the part, he mentions how it feels so distant. Colin was trying to mimic the people in his friends group. The problem is not that he was sleeping around but problem us the fact that he didn't really felt fulfilled. This was completely different for Simon and Anthony as fir them sleeping around was more about their internal conflicts rather than wanting to show off
Exactly! I just wish they made it more obvious for us and that they will explore more of this feeling in the second part. Nobody is understanding this enough and it feels off even for the people that got it
I think he's trying to block who he really is, because like Benedict (????), he's more creative and a dreamer than his brothers. He's wanting to be more of a rakehell to block his true self out
Girl you nailed it, you said EXACTLY what I felt watching this season so far. It was rushed and I felt there were side characters in their season (too many side characters get more screen time), no build up for their story even in carriage scenes I haven’t felt that he loved her so much, also in the book the first kiss change something in him while in the show you don’t feel that, hopefully the second part is better than this.
What I hate tho is the general disappointment for this season is being projected into the lead couple/actors, saying that there was no chemistry or that luke newton couldnt act (FALSE both btw) or that they wanted kanthony instead and turning it into shipwars. The criticism should be about the pacing and how we didnt see the main lead often BECAUSE they were good together. it’s literally not their fault that the editing in this show was being so off. I feel like someone meddled lin the editing room a bit too much tbh and it’s really discrediting the actors’ performance.
The ones that say they have no chemistry or the acting was bad are bullshitting. The scene under the tree where pen says that they can’t continue their lessons any longer got me in the feels. The reluctance and confusion Colin faces as he realises he has fallen for her and then the pain in his eyes as he watches her walk away really gave me the heart ache. Even the midnight randevous and carriages scenes, even though a bit rushed, hit the spot. They just weren’t given enough screen time and thus development like Kathy and Anthony did
Yeah those people are wrong. Luke and Nicola are great actors and have great chemistry. Netflix made some weird decisions (like deciding to release the episodes separately) that negatively affected the pacing.
I agree about Penelope and Colin’s lack of character development. Neither of them give main character energy this season. I blame the new showrunner. I disagree with your thoughts on the Mondriches. They bring new energy to the boring and stuffy ton. They should’ve cut Benedict’s scenes with his lady friend. I’m not invested because: 1) We don’t know the woman and 2) What is Benedict’s purpose? Does he still paint? Is he looking for love or simply bored? Save it for next season. They should’ve cut most of Cressida’s scenes. I’m tired of bullies/villains getting redemption arcs. I don’t care that her father is an asshole. She has bullied Pen for years. Spilling a drink on Pen and tearing her dress is something that can cause someone as ridiculed and isolated as Pen to unalive themselves. And for the life of me I don’t know why Eloise is friends with her.
I am with you on the Mondrich family. I do love them and I like the characters and I like how they struggle to fit in once they become apart of the elite class. However, I didn’t like that the mom and dad were constantly thinking about themselves. Their son is a child who just got thrusted into a title that he was never groomed for. Don’t you think they should be way more cautious and understanding that their position is because of him. They don’t mention their son at all after he becomes Baron. They act like they have the title. It really rubbed me the wrong way. Their story should have been more concerned about how to navigate this new world in regard to their son’s reputation within it. No, they could not do everything they wanted. They’re new to society, their son is a new Baron and they should have been way more concerned about the things that they did for the sake of their children. Especially since they were not the ones that inherited the title. 😅
THIS!!!!! They spent too much time on this storyline…it didn’t really make me care about them at all. I totally agree they had the parents act as if THEY were the ones holding the title instead of their young son. The father deciding on whether or not to keep his bar/lounge….who cares!!!
Something I keep forgetting to bring up. The two characters who had disabilities felt like tokens to me. Yes, they don’t need entire storylines but considering people with disabilities barely get representation or proper ones, it felt like a slap to the face to me that they are there for 2 seconds and that’s it. Do agree about the lady danbury and Penelope storyline. They may add that in part 2, but it should have been earlier.
There were two characters?! Who?? I noticed the man in the wheelchair of course. They even zoomed out to highlight it which felt icky ngl. Like “look at us! We represented! We did representation 😊” Who was the other person??
@@Zelda00Gamer it was a blink and you miss it. But in the debutante presentation scene, two women walked away and spoke using British sign language. That would be so cool to see more of.
1. The scenes we could have cut. Cressida’s family life and scenes with her and Eloise after episode 2. 2. Of course, his threesome scenes were unnecessary and odd. 3. A couple of the modrich scenes. I would keep the ones that deal with Bendetict and his arc. I agree, taking these scenes out helps build up more of Penelope’s and Colin’s relationship including him finding out about LW earlier which can also help Eloise calm down a bit.
my guess is that their plans with cressida’s family have direct impact on season 4 (specifically with benedict’s love interest, but i’m just being vague so i don’t accidentally spoil anything) so they need to set that up. if it turns out to be unrelated, then i agree, what was the point
I think the Cressida and Eloise dynamic is interesting, but I think it should’ve been introduced this season and not just *there* all the sudden. If it had been a slow burn of Eloise seeing her as a whole person who has such a dark history, it would’ve been intriguing and we would’ve eventually rooted for Cressida, but they kind of kept her somewhat devious and it’s hard to understand what the hell Eloise is so charmed by…?
Prudence came into the season with a husband and absolutely no explanation and that bugged me. I don’t care about the mondrich family either and I’d honestly rather have learned how prudence managed to snag a husband who seems to really worship her over a poor family getting titled through a death
I totally agree with you! I needed more Polin scenes. I feel like they are just gearing up next season. The main leads feel like side characters. Last season was so good because the will they won’t they tension was ever present and I didn’t feel that here. Colin’s proposal felt out of left field
I agree, but also think Francesca is taking up too much screen time instead of Polin and Benedict… It feels like she is the main couple character and it is odd because we havent seen her at all the first two seasons but have been following Bens self identity discovery. It feels like Ben put aside due to the new Fran actress (I like the actress but the timing is off, would have been better if she was given more scenes of a similar to Hyacinth and Gregory, and eased into the family dynamic) Are they trying to merge the Polin and Fran books?
Well the show is called Bridgerton. It’s about the family. Francesca is gonna have some time as well. They are pretty much developing her character since they didn’t do anything with her for the first two seasons.
yeah, i don't care about the mondrich family. their plot twist was nice and all but i really didn't need to know how his bar started losing customers. i even think francesca had more screen time compared to the main couple this season. cressida and penelope had more time fighting for debling than when it should have been debling vs colin fighting over penelope
I think Colin not feeling right as a rake was on purpose… he’s trying to be like everyone else but it’s not him. It’s not supposed to be him and he had to get the courage to be himself and tell Pen he loves her despite what other ppl think about him… I don’t care about Will and Alice either 😂 it’s like why so much on them? I feel bad because they are a black family but yeah… still don’t care 😬
i agree that was their intention with Colin but it was not executed well, they gave us little to no time with colin showing that struggle or the depths of his new personality.
exacly, and colin's new personality being fake is pointed out in the first episode by lady whistledown and later on by violet, i dont know how people miss this (sorry for my english
They had Colin give a quick little "When you leave home you get to reinvent yourself. I did that." moment and then didn't actually really remember to make it evident if Colin is "faking it" to maybe be more like his brothers or if he "became himself" abroad. So the messages are mixed. His refusal to give the boys any real details about his sexual trysts, even before he began realizing he was in love with Penelope, leads me to believe that it was meant to be the former. But they could have tried harder to drive it home.
I agree. The brothel scene doesn’t bother me that much. it's there to show how fake and awkward new Colin's personality is. But the pace was too fast, we couldn't see well when he understood this about his behaviours
I think the whole point of Colin flirting was because his swagger is fake, he is putting a facade which slowly gets faded away as he is falling in love with Pen evident when whistledown called him faker and violet straight up told him to put down his armour he is wearing to please others and that scene where he said in Will's club that it's tiring pretending to be someone he is not. I think that was the whole point of showing his over the top swagger.
I agree this season is starting off rocky. Too many relationships trying to blossom instead of focusing on the one they let everyone believe it was going to be about. The best thing about season 3 part one was Her Majesty THEE Queens hairstyles! She ate 💅🏽
I think the show runners felt that because we had Colin and Penelope interacting in the past 2 seasons that they felt like focusing on the main couple all the time would be dragging things out. Which is misguided.
Thank you for the realistic review! So many people hate on us who criticize some aspects of the show as if it means we don't like it. We love it that's why we criticize it! We want the best for it.
I really wish they had kept the part where colin was the first one to find out that penelope was Lady whistledown. I also wish kept the friendship that lady Dunbery had with penelope in the book
Yes! I feel like the writers got lazy and thought they could give more screen time to others and less to the main characters because the audience has known Pen and Colin. But that was a huge mistake. We've only seen glimpses of them. Their romance is new to us and to Polin too. Daphne and Simon were engaged after episode 4. Kate and Anthony's story was great after episode 4. So They CAN build up a romance within 4 episodes. It's 4 HOURS yet Pen and Colin were barely there. I wanted to see more of them. And I don't feel the tensions like I was after watching 4 episodes of the season 1 and 2. Honestly, people like the couple because the actors are good. The show just has luck rn, especially with unnecessary subplots. Like what's the point of the Monrichs? They are never gonna get a main story and they are hurting the main characters. It's not worth it. The only reason I can think of is they are some sort of replacement for Daphne and Simon? But they have no real connection to the main characters. Colin is never gonna go to them like he went to Daphne for advice in the book. And what's up with Benedict's hook-up? Like just show he's sleeping around or sth. We all know Benedict and that lady isn't endgame or serious. So why give it screen time? They should have done Benedict's story first if they don't know what to do with Benedict.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I have this feeling that the Polin storyline will be a lot more developed (and consequently, will have more running time) in part 2. Even the actors, when asked, said that their favorite episodes were 5 and 6.
the point is that the authors didn't try to make colin a hottie, his new personality is fake and this is pointed out in the first episode, literally lady whistledown writes this and he gets pissed because it's the truth and later violet says the same thing and then he admits it himself when he is confessing to pen!!!!
@@felisha209 I just said the goal was to make Colin's new personality seem forced, but whether or not viewers liked it or how it was developed is another thing
no they def tried to make him a hottie, in the show and IRL. I hate his new "I'm hot shit" makeover and I feel like it's affecting his personal life. I miss sweet baby colin.
@@michellefiller6802 Are you talking specifically about looks? If so, they did the same to Anthony in his season, and the only problem I see with that is the way some people are treating the actor, making nasty comments about his appearance
@@belxgarcia I mean I think he looks great, but I've always found him hot. I just think he's letting his new looks/fame get to his head so I wish he was still sweet baby luke before his glow up.
I totally agree! And I BEG Colin and Pen's development to be the main focus in these next four episodes!!! I feel like Colin started to feel ATTRACTION and not LOVE for Pen, does that make sense? I wanted to see him suffering because he didn't see all this time that he had a hot, BUT ALSO charming, funny and intelligent woman right in front of him! I believe that in the fifth episode Eloise will tell Colin about Pen being Lady Whistledown and from then on the development will be better, even though he feels betrayed he will feel intrigued by Pen, this will make her more honest with him about her feelings about him and about society, after all, no one has a problem saying horrible things to her without considering her feelings, but she needs to consider their feelings when she is Lady Whistledown??? I hope she is as firm with Colin as she was in the books And what the fuck was Benedict's plot with that random woman? ps: sorry for my english
I liked so far and we still have 4 more episodes. But i do agree they could have given Polin more scenes together because it was so great the ones they did together, the chemistry was so good & i didn't care for Cressida nor Mondrichs. Colin fake Rake person was intentional, though. He's supposed to feel off as a rake because he's trying to be someone he is not. That's exactly what LW/PEN said about him in her writings. He's soft and sensitive, a sweet guy, but he thinks he shouldn't be and pretends to be someone else. So it is supposed to feel odd and unconvincing.
Colin doesn't know that Pen is Lady Whistledown yet, though. The trailer for part two shows Eloise telling Penelope that she has "until midnight" at some party to tell Colin the truth about being Whistledown. So that's still an issue between them. I don't, personally, feel like there was too much Cressida considering her new role as a friend to Eloise and a love rival to Penelope. They had a lot of work to get the audience to at least consider empathizing with her. I was so sad to learn that never in her life has a friend called on her. After 2 seasons and Queen Charlotte of watching the women of the Ton call on each other as friends it sort of broke my heart to know Cressida never had someone visit her as a friend. The scene with her dad made me remember that so many of these women were the products of their parents. Cressida's mother seems like she's ready to just give up on helping her daughter find a nice match. Don't get me started on her father. I liked Cressida admitting that she fell into the trap of women pitting themselves against each other and she started actually doing better. She didn't tell the other women the gossip about Pen even though just 2 weeks earlier she would have been tripping over herself to ruin Penelope with that. When Eloise just bluntly accused her of it (which is understandable but also for someone reminding Cressida constantly about being too cruel, she still struggles to measure her OWN words.) Cressida shut her down & I thought that would be the end of it but she STILL was Eloise's friend. LIKE? The growth worked for me and at first I was MISERABLE at the idea of more Cressida. But they turned me around. The Mondriches can be a compelling story but it didn't fit in this season. Benedict and his affair with the (very agreeable to look at) widow also ... feels like it's not going anywhere. Also it has nothing to do with anything but I have a crush on Harry Dankworth. I love a pretty person who is adorably dumb so he just does it for me. The romance was ... rushed. I did not start part one expecting them to technically be ENGAGED by the close of the first half. After how loooooooooooooong Anthony took, Colin felt like he was doing a marathon with Pen. Season 2 was dragging out the romance, season 3 is rushing the romance.
I agree!! I did NOT care enough about that man and his damn bar tf😭. Like this season needed time to work on the lead couple. I feel like a major reason behind this seasons success is the chemistry between the lead actors because the writing is mediocre at best😭😭 additionally friends to lovers is tricky in the sense that the audience needs a lot more character development to truly love it and they didnt give these characters enough screentime LIKE😃 also considering how interesting penelope's character is they could have easily done an in depth plot into the character's psychology
My delulu excuse is Colin was just dreaming until the carriage ending of episode 4. Like, he would maybe wake up at the beginning of episode 5. - I know this isnt true tho 😢
What if instead of the cliffhanger being a proposal, it was Penelope telling Colin she is LW? The next episode (5) starts with them in their separate homes, looking all sad and pensive and you can immediately infer from that that they are not together. We get Colin talking to Eloise, asking if she knew, and then a flashback to the argument that ensued after the confession. Like Colin is confused, he’s in denial about what he’s hearing from Pen, and it’s Pen immediately jumping in to defend herself. He’s immediately judging, saying stuff like “why would you do this to me? To us? I trusted you?” Pen being like “I didn’t mean to hurt you Colin, I swear it.” And it ends with Colin being like “I never wish to speak to you again.” Most of ep 5 and 6 is spent with them being apart, then at the end of ep 6, there’s a conversation between Eloise and Colin which essentially goes like, “maybe we haven’t been listening to Pen as much, and that’s why she’s turned to LW. Because she felt it was the only way people would listen to her.” Colin has an epiphany, he goes to confess his love for Penelope and Penelope apologises once again, and they’ve reconciled. The rest of Ep 7 and 8 is them thwarting Cressida’s scheme (that has an us against the world feel to it). 8 is Penelope fully embracing her confidence and stepping “into the light” (episode name) and revealing herself as LW with her arm around Colin’s standing side by side. Everyone at first is scandalised, then the queen does the same thing for them she did for Anthony and Kate. And they all lived happily ever after until season 4 at least
The main couple in polin and we spend so much time with others couples…I’m not disappointed rather dissatisfied I need the full season to give a fair judgement
yea theres definitely was so much focus on every character BUT the main leads 😭😭 them marrying should be a satisfactory conclusion to the build up that we didnt see that much of in the season. so while im so so excited for the next part, its disappointing we’re already pass the pining stage that hasnt been done well when its the most entertaining part of their romance ((
omg yes! i stayed up until 3am ET to watch it when it dropped and i was soooo disappointed! I had been so excited these last couple months, but it was not at all what I thought we would get. Not enough Polin, too many storylines going on at once, waaaay too fast pacing. I feel like we didn’t need to focus on so much in this one season, because now there’s not enough space for the main story.
Can we talk about Collins constant hair switching just within the first 20 minutes. I was so distracted by his hair changing 5 times in 1 conversation.
The point of the threesome is Colin pretending to be something he's not, not to prove he's changed rake now. That's what they both have in common, they both have insecurities and are overlooked in different ways. Also I agree we didnt truly see his feelings develop , it wasnt enough pining.
You’re amazing getting out 3 back to back videos right after the season’s premiere. I love to see Black stories but I literally did not care anything about the Mondrich’s plot line! AT ALL! Everytime we came back to them, I was confused on why they were bumped up to almost lead status. I agree they should have just had a throwaway line in Lady Whistledown about them and maybe a cut to them moving in. Everything else wasn’t needed besides maybe showing the 1 scene that there’s some contention about Mondrich still working. Use all that wasted screen time to develop Lord Debling and Pen’s relationship to oppose Polin. Or build up Colin’s personality and growing attraction to Pen. This season is already dividing up attention between Polin and Francesca’s romance. We don’t need anymore pointless subplots.
This season had me yawning and upset. I hated how Penelope was begging and being thirsty and how they tried to make Colin “that guy” when he isn’t. I didn’t like any of the side stories. I didn’t like how Colin proposed like “you gonna marry me or what?” 🙄. He did not woo Penelope like other lead ladies in previous seasons were woo’d. I hated the carriage scene. There was no chemistry. It was more like Colin was lusting after her because he’s just horny, and liked her lips after she begged (🤢) him to kiss her.
I actually really like the mondridge family and their scenes this season but my problem with them is the same as my issue with benedict this season - irrelevant and time wasting. I hope you're right and somehow they link to Sophie
I agree with everything you said. Namely...not enough Polin! The issue with that is this isn't JUST a friends to lovers arc...it also needed to balance out what used to be a very one-sided crush. There needed to be a complete character arc for Penelope where she gains confidence and becomes self-actualized, and also a role-reversal where Colin pines for her, before they get together. The carriage confession was beautiful, but it didn't feel earned by that point.
I FEEL THE SAME WAY I was more captivated by scenery than the damn story. The study/office scene at bridgerton house PISSED ME OFF. They completely left out colin's actual urning to be a writer. I was no excited for that but it never came. They even change the reading of the journal and I literally logged off after.
Yes, I also had hoped they would have concentrated more on Colin's travel writings and Pen reading more of his journals, convincing him to consider publishing them. Hopefully we will see more of it in part two.
same like I really don't care about Cressida and the Mondrich's. I like the feathering tons but just as comic relief once in a while. but mainly I want more Polin, Francesca and kanthony.
While he's proposed it doesn't mean they'll be married straight away. I think he might find out about LWD before the wedding. Also I do think the writers didn't know how to make a side story the main one so tried to fill the void of side story with too many small ones. Benedict could have gone to re find his artistic passion somewhere else this season like he didn't need this random widow story line.
I agree I absolutely love part one the pacing was a little off! Why was every episode only 54 minutes when the first season was over an hour? Perfect example of fast pacing is when she walked away from him at the garden scene episode one he didn’t even show his reaction of being shocked.
We needed more dream sequences to explain he is tormented. I think we should have had one of the brothers seeing Colin come out of the brothel and like talk to him about how out of character that is for him and him saying how society expects him to be this rake. The other brothers did it too so he is just being like them. Then they could say “seriously bro this isn’t you!” And then that could fester into why he feels himself around pen. The muldridge family… it feels like they are developing them as main aspects for no reason. If at the end of season 2 the club had been struggling (which it was) and then they inherited some small fortune.. that would be great. Or they suddenly created the first chain of bars in London then they could have developed and they could have bought a house from their own hard work! That would be a great progressive story. Hard graft = reward. Instead they get handed society on a plate. It would have been so good to have started the season off with the Ton clapping them into the room and lady whisteldown explaining to us how it had happened. Missed opportunity
Yesss! Couldn't agree with you more on everything you said! We needed more colin and pen...too many other storylines. Which is sad because I feel like we have all been excited to see polins story!!
I would say that I am a Polin Stan and wish we had a bit more scenes with them in part 1. However, when I had time to sit with the episodes and rewatch them, it was clear that the story was still amazing. We were waiting for 2 years anticipating this season + they released a lot of clips and photos. During my first watch, my brain was subconsciously filling in details and anticipating moments based on promo (and my multiple reads of the book). This would impact the viewing experiences significantly. When I rewatched it and just sat in the moment, the pace was slower and I saw even more of the character development (Colin & Penelope as individuals and as a couple). I think the long wait impacted the most diehard fans initial viewing because we had so much anticipation. I encourage everyone to do a full rewatch and sit with the material (not just the carriage scene 😉). The longer I remunerate on part 1, the more I have epiphanies about character moments and acting choices.
I so agree with all of this: - having threesomes does not signify an attractive male lead - no focus on the main love story at all, I am not a writer and would have so many ideas on how to make us really feel for Polin, I was most excited about them and I was not feeling it at all, I am so disappointed after all this waiting - no development of Pen as Lady Whistledown and her career - why all these side stories that don't go anywhere, no depth to any of them, couldn't care less about all these superficial plots - the costumes are horrendous, why do we have 60s hairdos for Pen, Kates dresses are so old lady, I know its a fantasy show but why is everyone wearing dresses from eras centuries apart
Yeah it is weird; Queen Charlotte was mixed, and the girl from the first season that Colin was in-love with, was mixed also. But all of the black men are phenotypically black. Which is surprising, because Shonda Rhimes a full black woman is a part of the creation of the show.
I feel like they cramed too may plots and some could have been done in another season. Like Violet's plot makes no sense because Queen Charlott takes place 4 years after this season in 1819. This season is set in 1815!
i didnt read the books, so. from the trailer i was expecting him to be this confident, full of himself even, man, pen to get pissed at him even More, and then him trying to fix it and realize hes in love while at it.... and for it to take time. not her bringing him down a peg finally and making out with him 5 minutes alter like??? it just felt like there were no stakes. he breaks her heart and then what. gives ger puppy eyes once and she forgives him??
Totally agree with you about Colin's "rake establishing" scenes. They are out of character for him and totally random for the show. Why did we need to see these? We didn't! Also agree that we needed more of Colin and Penelope before the carriage scene. We didn't get enough of them at all because they spent so much time with nonsense. Everything you've said here, totally agree with you!!
the go from like 10 to 100 because they KNOW eachother and don’t need to deliberate on their feelings cause once everything is out and upfront they just KNOW
Strictly speaking for the show ( I've only read the fourth book) but it feels like the writers didn't think about the long game, and the long game should've been polin. What would the show be with out Lady whistledown? So Polin should've been one of the last stories told ( end on Polin or Eloise) for those who only watch the show Polin, again you need Lady whistledown. Viewer's need to see Polin play out in the background while the other stories were being told. I didn't see a problem with the side stories, but they didn't give the full attention to the viewer. We didn't learn who Colin or Penelope was in this season if their stories played out in the background then we would've known who they were and we would've been yearning for them.
They said Shonda didnt help write this season. I said you can tell. Still liked the season though. Im glad that Francesca showed up. Her book is my fav
Right! When I was watching certain scenes I was like this could be a polin moment or when there was a new scene I was hoping for a polin moment or a growth moment for Colin 😢
I felt exactly the same. Thank you for putting all my feelings together. As someone who hasn't read the books, Colin doing a 180 felt very weird. I was trying to explain to my husband why Anthony was different because we did have a couple of sex scenes with him during season 2, but they were very brief and felt more like he was just taking care of his needs and leaving immediately. I agree that I would have been more accepting of Colin's had they been a part of his travels rather than something he was doing up until 48 hrs of getting with Penelope.
The storyline that I REALLY didn't care about was the stupid and unnecessary stuff about Penelope's sisters like WHO CARES OMG. I could not care less about them, their relationships, or their fertility. Like they are literally boring and mean bullies, Why would I be interested?! I heavily agreed with everything you said! It was so validating to hear you say everything I was thinking
I really appreciate the honest review ❤ S3 Part 1 is by far the weakest in terms of characters, plot and pacing. I was so, so hyped for it and it didn’t deliver. I’m still feeling so disappointed that certain scenes and characters were not given the attention deserved. This series really fell flat for me. At this point, not too excited about part 2 😑
I unfortunately agree 100% with all of your points! 😅 I loved their scenes together, but I really am thankful for having read the book and being able to fill in the gaps how I saw fit.
I binge-watched all of the seasons up to the release of part 1 and I instantly noticed a difference in feel right when the first episode of season 3. The Colin sex thing is very out of the blue and they try to dumb it down to him being a people pleaser. The pacing is 100% off. The episodes are shorter than previous seasons and they are trying to show too much within the time frame. I love kanthony but we could have decreased their scenes not that their story line is over. And we could have focused less on francesca’s storyline since she will have her time in other seasons (i do really like her storyline though). I wish the period of time where pen is mad at colin lasted longer and she could kind of sworn him off for a bit to focus on herself. I wanted to see her get pinned over and colin get super jealous to the point he confesses first. They then have a conversation and colin works to win her love back. Maybe i just want to see him suffer after what he said about my girl pen but either way that period of time should have been sightly longer. I liked the carriage scene(i haven’t read the books) but i thought it would come in the next part. I was shocked when it happened at the end since it was a big scene in the books from what i heard. Some childhood memories thrown in would have been perfect too. That way we could see not only colin but eloise reaching out to her for once since it always seems kinda one sided. They could have maybe even put in some scenes of little colin having feelings for her but pushing them down for whatever reason to make the piano scene when they were older hit harder.
They changed show runner so it explains a lot - new vibe new camera angles etc. I hated heave make up, acrylic nail in close up shots and some clothing gave me Capitol vibes. Editing also is to chaotic for me and the angles ohhhh why the director chose so unflattering angles!
I think it feels that way because its only the first part, if you go back and watch the first four episodes of season 2 their isnt that much of Kanthony scenes either.
They hyped this season up so much yet there was nothing to make you root for the main couple. I still don't know why they even like each other. I get Penelope has been pining for this guy all her life, but why? Show me, don't tell me. And on Colin's part, what even is his personality? Still don't know. Is his thing now that he is super cringe? Because they nailed that. I thought their arc was going to pick up from last season and him redeeming himself for being a jerk to her, but she pretty much forgives him right away. It would have been cool to see him give her lessons on flirting and getting guys but he didn't really do that? What did he teach her? Be yourself? Okay, and? There was so much potential for sexual tension in these lessons and the ball was dropped. Colin being hot for Penelope happened way too quickly. One kiss, one dream and he suddenly sees her as the hot girl? It's the whole "she was ugly until she took her glasses off" trope and it was bungled up. It needed to be a bit more of a slow burn. Also, how about some flashbacks from their childhood to really show what is so special about their relationship? Because so far it is just a sad girl pining for her neighbor who isn't noticing her, fast forward to he wants to rip her clothes off. They forgot to show us the middle part.
Thank you for saying this! I was watching this with my family and I could not stop complaining about how little screen time the couple that has been promoted this whole 2 years got. Don't get me wrong I was kicking my feet a giggling at the carriage scene and rooting so hard for Penelope but it was just disappointing that the couple got like 30% of the show to themselves.
Loved your review. I saw another RU-vidr state she didn’t want to see the Mondrich family and I felt offended. Now that I’m out of of my feelings, I understand the complaints more. Finally, sis, you are beautiful. I love the aesthetics of this video and that includes the star of it. Subscribed!
I know it’s a period romance, but it’s been really weird since the first season…. There are too many story lines, and it just seems inauthentic. I don’t think they have managed to capture the simple understated magic of that Daphne Simon season. The spin off queen charlottes story was the closest in tone and execution
