There's Only 5 Aces in MLB... (Here's Why)

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There are a lot of great pitchers across Major League Baseball, but there are very few that are true aces. To call yourself an ace you have to do it all as a pitcher, and even as pitching continues to get better, finding those guys that have everything you're looking for is as difficult as ever. It takes a lot to be a pitcher that your team can rely on to carry them deep into games every five days, and turn to in the biggest games of the year, and right now, there are only five pitchers that deserve the title of ace. Let's get into what it takes to be an ace, the guys that have earned the right to be an ace, and what the guys that didn't quite make it need to do.
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@crazydreamgirl208 3 месяца назад

My guy used a lot of Pablo Lopez footage for never having mentioned him in any category

@Susbus69 3 месяца назад

Yeah he’s a top 5 pitcher in the league This year he’s winning cy young

@toms7114 3 месяца назад

He tips his pitches, at least he did in the 2 games with him that I watched.

@user-eo3gz7ve3y 3 месяца назад

He sucks

@redavis6581 3 месяца назад

@@user-eo3gz7ve3yHe's elite when he can be, but I couldn't trust him in the playoffs.

@adamwiggins8290 3 месяца назад

He used a lot of Strider footage when true baseball fans know Fried is the ace.

@adamwiggins8290 3 месяца назад

This guy would think Maddux wasn't an ace because he also pitched to contact when it was needed.

@TheConnorJoeTrade 3 месяца назад

Or glavine

@rcapogarcia 3 месяца назад

Literally exactly what I was going to comment. He does have a point as to why the K is preferable.

@Shan_Cox 3 месяца назад

@@rcapogarcia With a man on 1st with less than 2 outs, I'll take a 4 pitch at-bat for a double play rather than 10-11 pitches to strikeout the next 2 hitters. Pitching to contact isn't terrible. Fewer pitches to get the out keeps your pitch count down. Maddux pitched complete games with less than 100 pitches all the time. High volume strike out guys are at 100 pitches in the 7th inning. I know there is an inherent risk in the batter hitting the ball, but guys like Maddux and say a Max Fried induce weak contact.

@rcapogarcia 3 месяца назад

@@Shan_Cox Agreed, but when you think of the best pitchers high Ks guys are usually the norm. Maddux was and is somewhat of an outlier. Contact guys are usually not as dominant.

@bordomsdeadly 3 месяца назад

My exact thought. This man is an idiot. Groundball pitchers can be aces. A double play gets more outs than a K

@brianontiveros-kersch2412 3 месяца назад

"These guys are more worried about throwing strikes than throwing something that's hard for the batter to hit, as a result they can give up a lot of contact and balloon their ERAs" Also puts Spencer fucking Strider as a true ace despite him throwing so many strikes that it lead to an ERA over 4 last year.

@dominickleonardi 3 месяца назад

I agree with your 5 picks as aces but to say Logan webb isn’t an ace because he pitches to contact with one of the worst defenses in the league is batshit crazy.

@kokkari37 3 месяца назад

Yup! And 0 run support!

@stevenkaufmann7970 3 месяца назад

Ya to say the guy that pitches more innings than anyone the last 2 years while being top 10 in Era is not an ace is laughable at best. This guy knows absolutely nothing.

@MrIllMind 3 месяца назад

Also said he needs a sinker…

@timothyniles1220 3 месяца назад

I agree

@kevinandrewsphoto 14 дней назад

Said he needs a premiere pitch. But his change up has been one of the most devastating pitches the last 2 years.

@bmac4 3 месяца назад

The definition of "teams top pitcher" feels misleading when teams have had multiple aces at once, looking at the 1990's Braves with Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz or the 2-headed monster of Schilling and Johnson on the 2001 Dbacks. Also Logan Webb is an ace lmao if you wanna say his style "relies on defense" too much keep in mind he placed 2nd in CYA voting with one of the worst defenses in MLB who led the league in errors by a big margin.

@SmartrBaseball 3 месяца назад

Totally agree on the "teams top pitcher", an ace is a top pitcher and a team can have more than one ace. As for Webb, like I said I think he is a really good pitcher, but we can disagree on him being an ace or not. Giants D was terrible with errors, but was still 12th in team Def according to fangraphs, and most of their bad defense according to advanced numbers was from the outfield, which doesn't matter as much to a high groundball pitcher like Webb, C and each INF spot ranked no lower than 13th in MLB.

@KingMinosxxvi 3 месяца назад

Logan Webb is definately and ace!

@bmac4 3 месяца назад

@@SmartrBaseball To me he fits more into the mould of a Maddux than a Johnson, but he's still an ace. His control is still stupid good, given he led the MLB with the best K/BB ratio and still has excellent FIP even better than his RBIs. Having Pat Bailey helps but the Giants infield is generally average at best defensively, they arent making him worse but they arent carrying him the way the Dodgers infield does.

@nickbovi 3 месяца назад

@@SmartrBaseball Any team that has to have Wilmer Flores at 3rd base 22 games out of the year with an .848 fielding percentage is really bad defensively. Brandon Crawford was also nowhere is his usual badass self defensively, plus the bad outfield which still counts even with a ground ball pitcher like Webb. If you don't have Logan Webb as an ace your definition of an ace is pretty suspect.

@tjboylan20 3 месяца назад

Don’t forget about the famous “Four Aces” on the Phillies in 08

@carsonblythe8604 3 месяца назад

Logan webb is still the most underrated pitcher in baseball for not making this list. definately an Ace, would like to have him over Gausman and gallen and strider rn. More innings and no difference in ERA with the worst defense in baseball as a groundball pitcher. By far the best ground ball pitcher in the league, he has no comparisons for innings with 216 pitched. 2nd in cy young and projected to lead the league in pitchers war. Dude is an ace on a trash giants roster and I am a giants fan. the fact that he didnt get all mlb team SP or an all star is literally criminal and the league should be embarrassed.

@ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 3 месяца назад

Bro plays in nl west which is a pitchers haven besides Coors. He's great but a sinkerballer and not as electric as gaus

@dominickleonardi 3 месяца назад

@@ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507he pitches in a pitchers ballpark for sure but he also has the worst defense in the league as a ground ball pitcher

@froddo420 3 месяца назад

Nah Webb is better than gaus

@kokkari37 3 месяца назад

100% right! Don’t forget he gets zero run support also!

@diegojimenez2989 3 месяца назад

Cheater

@DrAnarchy69 3 месяца назад

I’m shocked you didn’t include Corbin Burnes as an ace. I’m a Yankees fan and I shit my pants thinking about him pitching against the Yanks

@SmartrBaseball 3 месяца назад

I wouldn't be surprised if he was absolutely elite again this year, and if he is like I said he's earned ace status again, I just don't like his Ks/BBs getting noticeably worse the last couple years, but he could easily prove me wrong.

@user-fx2bx1gz4c 3 месяца назад

@@SmartrBaseball Burnes numbers stack up favorably against Gallen, Gausman, and Wheeler over the past 3 seasons. I think you're suffering recency bias on Burnes. It's different for Alcantara who tanked, but Burnes still had 200Ks on the nose and 191IP with a low-3s ERA and a sub-4 FIP. It just seemed like a down season; I'd encourage you to go look at Verlander's baseball reference page. He had down years at the same age for inexplicable reasons. Baseball's finicky. I only think there is 1 ace in baseball (Cole), but to be consistent, I think it should to be a 1 pitcher list or a 6 pitcher list. I'd even say Burnes would be my #3 if I had to rank them---behind Cole and Strider but ahead of the other 3 guys you named.

@SmartrBaseball 3 месяца назад

@@user-fx2bx1gz4c Burnes numbers combined over the last three years are great, but like I said in the video it's that they've been going down, this year will answer any questions though. I can absolutely see him putting up great numbers again, and then it's no question he's an ace, but if they go down again I'm hitting the panic button.

@jeffreyjurney2013 3 месяца назад

Burnes was lights out in the 2nd half last year.

@SmartrBaseball 3 месяца назад

@@jeffreyjurney2013 He was definitely better second half, walks were still a bit high for my taste, but hopefully it's a sign he gets back to 2021-22 Burnes, I'm rooting for the best version of him which is absolutely filthy.

@Percyripped 3 месяца назад

7 min in and he has yet to name 1 of the aces.

@andyfletchxr 3 месяца назад

the list starts at 9:43 ridiculous

@PMBilson34 3 месяца назад

Definitely took too long to get to the main part. I'm sorry, I don't want to be mean. You explained what your list was, but over explained it. Then you did your list. Awesome. Then you explained what your list was again. Trim it, and you have a great video. I could be being hard on you, but I I enjoy things like this. Hearing people's perspectives. However when I'm not feeling like I get the information quickly enough I feel like my time is being wasted. Lucky for me, I know when to skip a video.

@king_supreme1102 3 месяца назад

Boo hoo you had to listen to rationale and information 😭😭. This isn’t tik Tok pal, go over there.

@Percyripped 3 месяца назад

@@king_supreme1102 he does this to lengthen his watch time dummy. Its a common practice in social media. So you defending it and making it about attention span shows your complete ignorance to the actual situation going on.

@pigpotty 3 месяца назад

@@king_supreme1102the first ten minutes isn’t information though, it’s just extensive fluff that can be summed up by saying “Aces are the best at getting batters out” on top of footage of double plays and sac flies

@adamrobinson7842 3 месяца назад

So based on your definition Greg Maddux wouldn’t not be an ace pitcher? In what world is only strikeout pitchers aces

@n1trodj400 3 месяца назад

@wingracer1614 3 месяца назад

Maddux also struck guys out. And walked NOBODY. Well except for Bonds

@bordomsdeadly 3 месяца назад

@@wingracer1614Maddux’ best K/9 ever was 7.8. Se struck guys out like every pitcher strikes guys out. But he wasn’t a strikeout pitcher.

@wingracer1614 3 месяца назад

@@bordomsdeadly Not saying he was a K god, but he did K more guys than most people give him credit for. For instance, he struck out WAY more guys than Glavine while also walking about half as many.

@cubsfanman-nx6pg 3 месяца назад

@bordomsdeadly strikeout rate now is also a lot higher than it was then

@rodneyhewitt2772 3 месяца назад

Dont sleep on max fried. He had injury trouble last year but other than that hes consistently around 30 starts a year, strikeouts,walks,and era all being near the top of MLB. I fully expect him to have a cy young type if season

@ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 3 месяца назад

Not strikeouts tho😂 he's a sinkerballer stop being a dumbass braves fan and see he ks less than a batter an inning

@MrBookertjones 3 месяца назад

Max Fried is the ace on the best team in baseball

@ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 3 месяца назад

@@MrBookertjones didn't know he was a ranger?

@wingracer1614 3 месяца назад

came here to post this. Yeah he missed most of last year but once back, he still looked like an ace and has been an ace the previous several seasons.

@wingracer1614 3 месяца назад

@@ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 He could be next year. Probably a Dodger though

@ephrimko5239 3 месяца назад

I agree with your point about pitchers who pitch to contact, but numbers strongly suggest that Logan webb is an ace regardless of his style. 2021-2023: 92 G, 556.2 IP 3.07 ERA, 3.00 FIP 23.2% K, 5.2% BB, 0.6 HR/9 14.2 WAR Those numbers rival or exceed most of the five true aces you named in this video

@bordomsdeadly 3 месяца назад

Maddux pitched to contact and no sane person would say he wasn’t an Ace. This man just thinks he can residue a term

@dominickleonardi 3 месяца назад

Not to mention the giants defense is pathetically bad which really effects his stats as a contact pitcher.

@livinb450 3 месяца назад

Dodgers fan here. Every time the Dodgers face Logan Webb, it’s a tough game.

@T_K7 3 месяца назад

I for one am really hoping that knuckleball George Kirby has teased every now and then can become a real pitch for him. He could pound the zone about as much if he pleases if hitters have it in the back of their heads that a legit knuckleball could come out at any time.

@SmartrBaseball 3 месяца назад

I love this haha I can only imagine facing that as a hitter, that would be terrifying!

@chirwub 3 месяца назад

he only did it once. but he should definitely throw his gausman inspired splitter more

@unkledoda420 3 месяца назад

Throwing a good knuckleball is really really hard, otherwise tons of guys would use it. If it's a really good knuckleball it's effective as hell but if it's not thrown perfect it's like throwing batting practice.

@MrBendylaw 3 месяца назад

@@unkledoda420 Smoltz used to throw one every once in a while, and it was hilarious.

@chirwub 3 месяца назад

i like kirby the way he is. he'll be the first pitcher to throw 200 innings with only 2 walks

@jxgilly 3 месяца назад

stopped watching the video the second he talked about kirby not throwing balls lol

@thewetpen 3 месяца назад

@@jxgilly Me too!

@lorimeyers3839 3 месяца назад

Interesting no mention of Nola. I know he’s had a few rough seasons since his career best 2018 season (including last season), but I’d consider him a 1B. He’s among the most durable pitchers in the game, walks barely anybody and has a nasty arsenal despite only topping out around 92-93. He’s struggled with the long ball though. Hanging watermelon curveballs. I think Nola is gunna have himself a very good 2024.

@coachleif 3 месяца назад

Nola was one of my guesses too, not knowing exactly what his recent stats were. It feels like he's been that 1B for a prolonged enough period of time he might qualify or be close.

@lorimeyers3839 3 месяца назад

@@coachleif yeah, he had a hard time adjusting to the pitch clock last season. Struggled. 4.46 ERA in 193 innings. But he made a few adjustments in late September (he realized he was standing at an angle on the mound in order to face the pitch clock and incorporated a slide step) and his last 5 starts were 2022-esque. Plus the looming free agency situation. I really think he can still win a Cy Young and will.

@unkledoda420 3 месяца назад

Bkake Snell has gotta be the most unimpressive 2× cy young winner i can think of.

@RandomXbox 3 месяца назад

1.89 ERA, 21 wins, 221 SO, 217 ERA+ one season 2.25 ERA, 14 wins, 234 SO, 182 ERA+ the other Why is that unimpressive

@geezushasrisen 3 месяца назад

@@RandomXboxHe played in two of the most pitcher friendly parks imaginable with two good defenses to bail him out.

@RandomXbox 3 месяца назад

@@geezushasrisen ok how come no other pitchers on the padres were doing it then

@legoindianajones9736 3 месяца назад

@@RandomXbox he isn't consistent he has had a lot of just mediocre years

@geezushasrisen 3 месяца назад

@@RandomXbox Cause while Snell has stuff, the most consistent thing about him is his inconsistency. Put him in Yankee Stadium and that 2.25 ERA is gonna go up sky high; especially when you’re walking 200 guys a year.

@1TightMinute 3 месяца назад

Ace is the best pitcher in the staff. That’s how it started. Managers would say I’m leading with my ace. Which is putting your best card forward. Around the 90s I noticed people started calling certain pitchers “true Aces.” Which meant legit studs. That’s now how we use the term ace as it’s seems the true part got dropped off and people just call really good pitchers aces. However, every staff still has their number one guy.

@Weremoogle 3 месяца назад

Agreed. It's the best pitcher on the team even if he's got a 4+ ERA.

@kennethtaylor2087 3 месяца назад

Gerett Cole is probably the most dependable pitcher in baseball today if you need a win he will definitely keep you in the game to give the offense the opportunity to win the game.

@0ucandoit0 3 месяца назад

Isn’t Gerett cole poop in post season? Get he’s a gun during regular but not really an ace or dependable when it matters

@nickdrago7390 3 месяца назад

@@0ucandoit0 Dude he has better career stats in the postseason than the regular season. Postseason ERA of 2.93 WHIP .94 Regular season ERA 3.17 WHIP 1.08

@zacharykai6317 3 месяца назад

@@0ucandoit0 gerrit cole was great the rest of the yankees were just ass

@Ryan-cb1ei 3 месяца назад

@@0ucandoit0 Completely not true. He had 1 bad post season game, wild card against the Red Sox. He’s phenomenal in the playoffs. Nobody talks about how good he was in the 2020 playoffs particularly.

@elyfel1183 3 месяца назад

An Ace is a Elite Starter who you trust, who can put you in position to win (low FIP/ERA), getting outs (K-rate), and racking up innings. Gerrit Cole Kevin Gausman Zack Wheeler Spencer Strider Zac Gallen I think Sandy Alcantara, and Corbin Burnes could make a comeback... but otherwise, I like the list. (Oh... you did mention them. Lol.)

@BendyDH 3 месяца назад

genuininely thought you were just giving the TL:DR of the video lol

@treystiemsma7329 3 месяца назад

I think that Castillo is in there for being an Ace, Pablo Lopez needs a definite shoutout, and Strider still doesn’t convince me 100% of the time, but he’s on the braves who make up for his weaknesses

@CoopSensei 3 месяца назад

Great Vid Bro, You got my sub. God I just love baseball YT. And this is the kinda of stuff, i wanna see with spring on the way

@mrkoolio133 3 месяца назад

I liked and subscribed the minute you said “THIS IS MY LIST I DO WHAT I WANT” 😂

@hardstyle4life13 3 месяца назад

Dude this video was fire keep it up

@rhearn64 3 месяца назад

Astros fan here: totally agree with you on Framber Valdez. Love the guy to death and boy is his stuff good, but his propensity to melt down/give up the big inning, as well as his refusal to walk fewer than 3 batters a game, deservedly lands him as not an ace.

@N8R_Quizzie 3 месяца назад

I definitely knew that Gausman would make the list, we played him in the playoffs and he was so dominant. Crazy good.

@acekelly2024 3 месяца назад

This guy's understanding of baseball is comparable to my three-year old nephew's understanding of quantum mechanics.

@timlett99 3 месяца назад

An ace to me is someone that could be the guy on a contending team and theres a lot of them. Obviously guys like Cole are aces because they're the best pitchers in the league lmao but to say someone like Logan Webb isn't is silly, he easily could be main or 1A pitcher on a legit contender

@maxmeadows9218 3 месяца назад

Great vid, loved the info and citing stats after every talking point as well as using the videos of the best pitchers. (I would say webb is an ace though...)

@Gen5Master 3 месяца назад

Where would you put Aaron Nola? Personally I feel he falls under the inconsistent grouping, seeing how he did last year specifically to years previously, but I am curious as to what you think about him?

@cejannuzi 3 месяца назад

One of the problems is so many guys look like aces--but only for a short while. There are very few guys who are ace-like year after year.

@dadbod12 3 месяца назад

I would imagine the part of Burnes's regression last year was partly due to his frustrations with the Brewers. Now that he has a new home on a team with a lot of potential, the Orioles. The Brewers have been on a slow decline, and that can play i pretty big factor in one's performance. Now that he has a legitimate chance to make it deep in the playoffs, don't be surprised to see those numbers swing back in the positive direction. The Orioles's park is also a little more pitcher friendly than the Brewers is.

@coreygilliam8533 3 месяца назад

Great video bro.

@freshtendrills5969 2 месяца назад

This shines more light on how truly incredible the Braves rotation in the 90s was. Three Aces. Three hall of famers. In their prime, for over a decade.

@jasonainsworth7810 3 месяца назад

Kirby turned himself into the Ms staff ave last year. Pitch in Seattle, Kirby is going to win multiple Cy Young awards. After thinking about Smell based on this video I cant really argue with that. Last time I saw predictions for the 24' season Kirby, Castro and Gilbert were in the top 10 for best odds at winning the Cy Young. Very much holding out hope they figure out how to bring Snell home that would be 4 TOP 10 PITCHES WITH VERY REALISTIC CHANCES TO WIN THE AL CY YOUNGE.

@cmk921 3 месяца назад

Very enjoyable video, thank you! It is Corbin BurnEs, though. Mom was an English teacher, here to help. 😂

@SmartrBaseball 3 месяца назад

"I don't believe you" -Ron Burgandy

@cmk921 3 месяца назад

@@SmartrBaseball No, my mom really was an English teacher

@arealconservative8712 3 месяца назад

You've got 5 aces? Well, I've got a can of Wilkins coffee. *shoots*

@ChairmanMeow1 3 месяца назад

I completely agree with this. The biggest component to me is health. You cant be an ace without durability. Aces can go out there tired, without their best stuff, and still go 7. Big reason Cole is my #1 by quite a bit right now... and also a reason I believe Corbin Burnes should be considered an ace. Also, Gausman isnt an ace to me at all.

@prickly10000 3 месяца назад

Actually there are only 4 Aces and if you have 5. You are Cheating

@ltarmenia4ever 3 месяца назад

Constructive criticism: Name the 5 aces first real quick and then go into detail like you did early in the video about why some of these other players wouldnt be considered aces based on your qualification criteria - which I thought was spot on. Some great easy analysis here for sure. Love to see it man.

@zachansen8293 3 месяца назад

Before the video even loaded I'm like "The quadfather better be on the list"... and there they are (both of them) front and center in the first second.

@benkelly7499 3 месяца назад

I'd say there's a lot of pitching out there right now with Ace potential, but very few of them put it all together for more than a year or two at a time

@FrankACai 3 месяца назад

Hihi this is Frank from Taiwan. I would like to share this to our Sox fan club. It would be splendid if you agree.

@MikeAmend84 3 месяца назад

The Cole interview kills me everytime 😂

@De_La_Soto 3 месяца назад

What do you make of guys like Bradish and Merrill Kelly? 1B type of guys or 2 at best?

@axe2grind244 3 месяца назад

As you saw in the playoffs, Merrill Kelly is an absolute bulldog.

@Mostillist 3 месяца назад

merrill kelly is the perfect number 2 bradish is a 3 starter

@therealbs2000 3 месяца назад

6:00 wait, 101 for Loc+ is league average, but 97 is at the bottom of the league? please explain

@danielrivera9002 3 месяца назад

I'm sorry but I'm pushing back on Strider. In order to be considered an ace you really do need to do this for about 3 years straight. Yes his stats are phenomenal but he only has one year under his belt. And how many wonderful one and dones have we seen over the last I don't know 50 years?

@SamsungBurner 2 месяца назад

Excellent video. I was disappointed that Burnes did not make the cut, but I'm an Orioles fan so I'm biased about him

@lexiescalderon5639 3 месяца назад

Even though Sandy alcantara struggled in 2023, he’s a literal ace, I don’t see how anyone can say he’s not an ace

@DerikAasansLevelUpTravel 3 месяца назад

Sandy Alcantara had an off year last year, but he is an ace. Love this video.

@monkeeee 3 месяца назад

I wish I could hear a pitching conversation between Gallen and Strom

@gradyjones7017 3 месяца назад

By this guys logic Greg Maddux wouldn’t be an ace but Kevin Gausman would

@user-qo9ws5uc6r 2 месяца назад

No Nathan Eovaldi when the guy has been there every time his team needed is wild.

@ROFLBOB24 3 месяца назад

I grew up in the era of Randy Johnson and Greg Maddux being known as aces. Tossing around the term "ace" is revolting imo. I'm not really sure I call Gallen an ace, even though I'm a DBacks fan. He needs to have more control early game, teams tend to jump on him early. He does have this incredible ability to give up 1, 2, maybe 3 runs in the first inning and shut down the next 6, but I get a little nervous when Gallen starts. He's not a Gerrit Cole/Zach Wheeler level guy IMO

@unkledoda420 3 месяца назад

Good list. Personally I wouldn't include Strider until we've seen 2 full seasons out of him. If other guys don't make the list for not staying healthy the past 2 years I can't include him either since he hasn't been in the majors for 2 full years yet.

@stevethereve4652 3 месяца назад

good video!

@ParkersFranks 3 месяца назад

Took forever to actually get into the video we came to see

@JesusFather-op8iw 3 месяца назад

The braves one thru four this year are either former or potential aces: Strider, Fried, Morton, Sale.....it's coming together this year....

@TheConnorJoeTrade 3 месяца назад

I feel your anger😂😂

@kylejohansen689 3 месяца назад

Ohtani of 2022-23 was an ace, no doubt about it. You have to remember that he was pitching every 6th game, not 5th, so that impacted his innings. If he wasn't a hitter the Angels wouldn't have been using a 6-man rotation.

@gertobrown7777 3 месяца назад

the catcher framing the ace would effect their numbers would it not?

@Theshoeguy613 3 месяца назад

Strider is the only one i disagree on. I’d replace him with burnes or even fried despite the injury last year

@Falllll 3 месяца назад

It seems weird to gatekeep the term for guys who had a down year, but then throw in guys who haven't had many years of dominant performance just because they otherwise fit the term.

@appleplays753 3 месяца назад

Where's Max Fried? I know he was hurt a lot in 2022 but the years before that he has been really good.

@williamabaker12 3 месяца назад

Where's Max Fried?

@realisticthought1781 3 месяца назад

Fried is great, but hurt too much

@Shan_Cox 3 месяца назад

Who's winning NL Cy Young this season? Spencer Strider or Max Fried?

@acgonzales7 3 месяца назад

@@realisticthought1781 Fried's starts since becoming a full-time starter: 2019: 30 games 2020: 11 (Covid season) 2021: 28 2022: 30 2023: 14 recency bias is blinding you people calling him injury prone.

@adamwiggins8290 3 месяца назад

@Shan_Cox who do you want on the mound in game 7? Strider or Fried? Give me Fried.

@Shan_Cox 3 месяца назад

@@adamwiggins8290 That's like picking a favorite child. I'd be perfectly content with either. Max has more experience but Spencer is Spencer. For the sake of answering your question tho, I'll say Spencer.

@mrpolichi4949 3 месяца назад

4 minutes in and he’s telling Justin Steele to throw sinkers, an immediate sign that you literally don’t know what you’re talking about 😂

@AG-20 3 месяца назад

This is great content. Keep it going. Maybe make a video on the young pitchers that have the stuff to be future aces.

@SmartrBaseball 3 месяца назад

Glad you liked it, that's a really good idea, probably have to do that at some point, appreciate you.

@kokkari37 3 месяца назад

Let’s be honest, Webb is looking for run support more than that swing n miss pitch!😂

@michaelburgess3779 3 месяца назад

Verlander had a monster season, he missed time bc of injury… Mets should have kept him for this season

@cubsfanman-nx6pg 3 месяца назад

As a cubs fan I know that if Steele is starting then im much more confident in our team to win because I know hes gonna go out and pitch a good game That's what an ace is. To say only 5 pitchers provide that to a team is wild.

@vancelubben5300 3 месяца назад

White Sox had FOUR Starting pitchers with 200 innings or better in 2005..What a special season that was!!! ❤

@rossreynolds4835 3 месяца назад

As a beting man, an ace is someone I can count on to win the game or keep the game very low. In that aspect there's alot of aces

@ewetyube 3 месяца назад

Framber is always near the top of the list in "in zone balls". His control is better than the numbers and better than you think. I believe that in 2023 he had a game vs Seattle with 18 in zone balls. No other pitcher last season had as many as five in a start. If you look at in zone dBalls (pitched) and out of zone oStrikes (faced) the same teams are always on the top of that list; Oakland, Houston, Baltimore, Tampa, SD, Colorado. Basically Houston and teams that face BOS, NYY, and LAD.

@davidpurba404 3 месяца назад

Great content dude. But maybe less meme cut would be great.

@jordanherbeck1038 3 месяца назад

This is brutal. Im wondering if it’s rage bait?

@WHOOOOOOOOCARES 3 месяца назад

Tim Lincecum was def an ace for awhile. I really want to see how Skenes does in the big league.

@Jahwobbly 3 месяца назад

Next week, we'll start an argument over the definition of the word "good."

@courtneyvaldez7903 3 месяца назад

Personally, I find it hard to consider someone an “ace” if they don’t consistently pitch through 6-7 innings. A starter shouldn’t have comparable innings totals to a well-used long reliever. The reduction is innings pitched is entirely on the analytic emphasis on making every pitcher throw as hard as possible and “load management” becoming a norm earlier and earlier in their pitching lives. This is a choice. Baseball is doing it to itself.

@tristonwebb7045 3 месяца назад

14:55 as part of braves country, we can attest that spencer is extremely unlucky. But also. There’s a bunch of measly 1 run or late extra runs that scored bc the braves offense produced and strider shoved and they lead 7-0,13-2, etc etc and the team just takes the out sometimes.

@adamwiggins8290 3 месяца назад

Braves country knows that Fried is the ace anyway.

@TheBeast-iq4mz 3 месяца назад

His ERA was only 3.86 because he had 2-3 really bad games

@UGAfan1227 3 месяца назад

@@adamwiggins8290 A team can have multiple aces, but Max Fried is definitely the better one. Over the past 4 seasons he has like a 2.66 era I think.

@jacobbutler5489 3 месяца назад

As an Astros fan for 27 years, Framber is good, but so inconsistent that I can't trust him, and he can't be called an ace when he pees his pants in the playoffs.

@qspice6413 3 месяца назад

I think one that is really important to keep eyes on with very limited injury history and continual improvement in his performances is Freddy Peralta. While definitely not an ace right now, he is absolutely emergent as one. Also, at least spell Burnes' name right...

@lilboyblue226 3 месяца назад

Ohtani's GS numbers look much better when you remember he was in a 6 man rotation. I believe his availability is just fine.

@libra3655 3 месяца назад

I wholeheartedly disagree with Spencer Strider. The video starts with talking about pitchers making clutch strikeouts. And then the video cites Strider getting unlucky with getting rocked with guys on base.

@samright4661 2 месяца назад

Strider added a curveball NL is in serious trouble 😂

@friggy1899 3 месяца назад

8:58 It is an unfair comparison for Ohtani when you say “only rodon has had a season of 30 starts,” when Ohtani will never have a season of 30 starts because that’s just the nature of being a TWP like him

@natallen1667 3 месяца назад

Do you worry about Gallen’s strikeout numbers falling off after April 2023? It really felt like he was unreliable after that dominant beginning

@scottdobson1276 3 месяца назад

For me, a true ace is a guy you can count on to go 7 when the pen is over worked, ( in addition to the other results)

@jameskaihatu6209 3 месяца назад

George Kirby threw his first and only knuckler to Corey Seager. But, yeah, he's nervous about throwing strikes.

@munaclassic4020 3 месяца назад

And out of the 20 I believe 3 belong to the blue jays( Bassett 200, berries 189.2, gausman 185).

@JacobusOT 3 месяца назад

Luis Castillo probably should’ve been in those honorable mentions too, dudes top 10 in almost every pitching stat

@ForWeAreMany6 3 месяца назад

Ohtani has on average 100 more innings than the pitchers you mentioned while having an above average ERA for a starter. While having the highest K/9 amongst active pitchers. While also serving a team with the worst Bullpen in baseball. On a team that refused to trade him because of 2nd half ticket sales. You also forget he threw a complete game in under 100 pitchers while throwing 88 strikes. Not calling him an ace is an insult to your Baseball knowledge.

@Saxoraptor 3 месяца назад

yeah with the giant's defense logan webb cannot risk close plays like that lol

@mx4159 3 месяца назад

Haven’t watched the full video yet but if he says Strider is an ace because of his low FIP I stg

@adu3830 3 месяца назад

The people complaining in the comments that "this guy wouldn't consider Maddux an Ace" are missing a point I believe. Baseball changes , and when Maddox played he wasn't necessarily considered a "pitch to contact guy" his strikeout numbers in his prime were right around what was the league average mark at the time. Also, standards have changed. Having huge strikeout numbers are hotter right now than ever. A strikeout is always an out (obviously). It's obvious that the league prefers this as well, a Rodon type is always going to get paid more than a Hendricks/Keuchel type of pitcher. This day and age you see more consistent results and longevity out of a pitcher with "stuff" than a lower velocity pitch to contact guy. There is a larger margin for error. All and all it is a well made video that doesn't deserve to get shit on like it has.

@JSO18 3 месяца назад

I disagree about the idea that a pitch to contact pitcher can’t be an ace. So long as they aren’t giving too much damage, forcing guys to ground or fly out is often more effective than striking them out. Justin Steele was elite in this sense-he let up very few home runs, and forced tons of ground balls. So what if he doesn’t strike as many guys out? Strikeouts don’t win games, letting up few runs while pitching many innings wins games. Yes, if he’s in a jam you might rather have someone else out there, but pitchers like Steele don’t get into jams very often.

@imastudd 3 месяца назад

lol strider over ohtani? u high my guy

@calebkunz2011 3 месяца назад

ace pitchers do not need to be stikeout getters. like someone else mentioned, greg maddux is widely regarded as one of the best pitchers if not the best and definitely an ace. Never having a k/9 above 8, with those numbers getting above ten for the strikeout “ace” pitchers of that era

@neematavakoli4350 3 месяца назад

So according to this metric Greg Maddux, Orel Hersheiser, Andy Petitite are not Aces. Respectfully disagree. An ace is a pitcher that the rest of the rotation leans on, pitches deep into games, gets outs and wins games