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Trade away their good players and get something for them. I dont mind watching a losing team of younger players and adding some pieces in a few years to compliment them.
Bo’s lack of pitch recognition and absurd BABIP have finally led to their inevitable result. Vladdy has never and never will live up to the hype. There’s multiple reasons for this, but most come down to the fact that he’s a fat DH in his early 20s. Springer was a signing that was supposed to help jump the Jays into contention, accepting that he’d decline horribly by the second half of his contract. Bassitt and Berrios are overpaid and will only become more overpaid as they age. Because the Jays can’t develop pitching they’re only going to continue to overpay for mid rotation types. But the biggest problem is that the rebuild failed. Of all those hitting prospects that were supposed to be the core the only two to pan out are the flawed Vladdy and Bichette. You cannot build a team around two homegrown players, and these two aren’t exactly Rutschman and Henderson.
I don’t want Ross Atkins or Mark Shapiro to have a job if they blow it up I already don’t want them running this franchise any further into the dirt they just don’t know what they are doing and don’t deserve the decision making power
the issue has been their inability to develop pitching from within. this has made them spend a ton on the rotation and leaving little behind for the lineup. realistically yes vlad and bo have underpeformed but the lack of support cast just makes it worse. the springer signing was always going to be an albatross. currently all the money has gone to the pitching staff and what this team needs is some big money bats that they don't want to pay for. a retool with a new gm is needed, bo is going to walk regardless because he wants a trea turner/xander bogarts type of deal. which i don't think makes sense unless he moves to 2nd and keeps his unreal bat to ball instincts.
It's so difficult, but given the division they're in, I would tear it down and start with a new core of prospects. If they really tore it down to the studs and got as much as they could, I would think their rebuild would only take 2-3 seasons
@@jalen8709 True but I think Bo wants to test free agency so he goes eventually anyways lol. A contending team like Atlanta or LAD could use a true SS and another good bat
In fairness to Vladdy, he seems to have turned it around. In the past month, he's slashing ..386/.465/.511 He's still looking for his power stroke, but that's a launch angle issue. He's hitting the ball, and hitting it hard again. Now it just needs some air, and we're really in business.. Or he could start hitting it right into the ground again.. Baseball is weird.
I’d say over the course of a full season, not typically. Don’t have any stats to back it up off-hand, but IMO over the course of 162 (esp for a SP who has more innings and therefore more data than say a RP) that ERA and FIP will converge.
You could argue that the AL Central is the toughest division in baseball. Only division where three different teams have an eight-game winning streak or longer
If I’m the jays, I’m taking this season off. Trade all the pending free agents who are performing (Garcia, richards, kikuchi), and maybe another replaceable guy like varsho. Keep the core intact, get some young talent and depth to bolster them.
I think you take the whole team and sit them down. Give them the "we have this many days till the deadline, if you guys wanna win and take a shot at this, you have that many days to convince me." See where it goes and evaluate how the guys react. Thats how you find your ballers.
As a Canadian i can confirm, there are no jays fans, just bandwagoners who only somewhat care when they're winning and don't pay attention when they're not.
Toronto sports franchises are about earning MLSE dollars by selling the illusion of hope. They don't actually ever care about being good, as long as sales are ok they are happy. Toronto franchises are born to treadmill.
We gotta blow it up keep bo yeet gurerro jr, springer, mini bat catcher, bassit, trade romano to the o's. Get some young pictchers for GJ then get guys who can run and hit make this a small ball team.. with lights out rotation
This years Jays need consistency and 2 or 3 arms in the bullpen. I don't have stats in front of me but I've seen too many games this season (and previous too) where the bullpen can't hold a late inning lead OR you watch the bats scratch away to to comeback just have the bullpen give up a couple of runs in the next half inning. Swanson hasn't been good. Cabrera hasn't been good. Romano hasn't been good. We need arms and the bats to be more consistent.
cant see this Jays team ever beating the Yanks or O's in a 7 game series. The yanks got a ton of guys in their walk years, and O's it's all dependent on whether they'll pay their guys, but if they do, they'll be a force in the American league for the rest of the 20's. And if the Yanks lock up Soto? Think the Jays oughta tear it all down and rebuild long-term like the O's, just with more money
“If you do nothing you’re gonna watch your biggest stars leave for almost nothing or fade into the twilight of their careers.” Angels: who’s talking about me
I've been a Jays fan since 2006 and this is the saddest state I've ever seen this team in, from so much potential a few seasons ago with a fun, hard hitting roster to just this pit of doldrums where it feels like scoring more than 5 runs in a game is a major accomplishment. Is it the analytics nerds possessing too much sway with how the team operates? Is it incompetent management on the field (pulling Berrios still makes me upset)? Is it the players losing their passion with too many energy guys traded away for the sake of run prevention? I have absolutely no faith in this front office to either go all in or correctly conduct a rebuild, but hey, the Rogers Centre renovations went off without a hitch, and that's what really counts, right? It's a difficult time to be a fan of this team. Blowing that 8-1 lead to Seattle really broke this team, huh.
The Jays really need to blow it up and retool, and it all has to start with the guys on top. I don't trust the current front office to be able to turn this ship around. Gausman, Bichette, Kikuchi, Jansen, Berrios, and Yimi could all fetch some pretty pieces, but I have no faith in the front office to capitalise on that The Jays have Clement, Jiminez, Barger, Martinez, Schnieder, and Palmegreni, who all occupy the infield, so trading Bichette makes sense as he's said he wants to test free agency. Personally, I'd like to see Vladdy stay. If he starts elevating and pulling the ball, he's one of the best hitters in the game. Unlike Bichette, he stated that he loves the Jays and would like to stay. The outfield is a complete crapshoot. Outside of Varsho, they really don't have anything valuable in the system. I don't think any team would want to risk trading for Springer, so he can stay in right. Schnieder could probably start in left. There's not much to say about it. Other than that, I personally don't think the Varsho trade was bad. They traded for a platinum glove level outfielder who has pop. I don't blame him for last year. I think it's mostly on the Jays staff as everyone else sucks and the few hitters that don't have said they don't listen to them. Outside of Tiedemann, the pitching depth is ugly. Yariel is a question mark, Pearson is cooked, and I personally can't name a single pitching prospect above AA other than Tiedemann and the guy they got for Espi. I really don't think anything is going to change. No one's getting fired outside of Schnieder and maybe some coaching staff. They're going to promote Mattingly to manager and make some dumbass moves and deal the only legitimate prospects in the org. I miss the 21 team so bad. It felt like that team could overcome anything. If only the front office was aggressive with acquiring some legitimate bullpen arm that year. Instead, they stuck with Chatwood, Dolis, Hand, and all the other bums in that bullpen. That team was the best shot the Jays had, and they didn't even make the playoffs.
The rebuild failed. The rational thing would be to cut losses and restart…but they wouldn’t. It’s only going to become much worse from here, I’m afraid.
@@SwaguPepe7 I mean I was with the jays 2018-2019 when they were trash. It’s gonna be another quick real build cause we have something the Ms aren’t familiar with which is a top 5 payroll limit.
This Jays team is the least fun team to root for for that I can remember. Just zero good vibes. What the hell happened to the atmosphere from 3 years ago, when they were having fun and easy to root for? Everyone on the roster seems miserable now.
I have been a fan of the Jays since 1989. I haven't hated a group of players , coaches and from office like this until now. Atkins is #1 on the list. People should stop going to watch this garbage.
@Phoenix114 yea, that's why I actively cheer against the blue jays. I live in canada and just want to watch other star players play. That's mainly why I watch it to see other teams.
I think having Gausman is bouncing back nicely. Berios and Kikuchi are fine. Manoah seems to be turning it around but too early to tell. Bassitt is Bassitt. Having 3 of our 5 starters being able to eat up a lot of innings in good but they need to be comfortable with the bullpen that's coming in to replace them. If they're not comfortable, then they try to do it themselves and tire themselves out. The bullpen is our biggest problem, in my opinion.
