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These 1960s Rich Privileged Teen Baby Boomers DIDN'T Rebel 

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In this video I am presenting clips from the classic 1966 documentary "Sixteen At Webster Groves - Webster Groves Missouri. It was produced by filmmaker Arthur Barron who I was honored to work for on several of his films. Webster Groves is clearly not typical as its teenagers were upper-middle-class and richer. Remember that about 40% of the huge baby boomer generation say that they participated in the activities of the 1960s. This video presents the views of a portion of the 60% who didn't participate and who essentially looked forward to living just like their parents did. I would not call them typical teenagers but they are certainly representative of a group who was just fine in the 1950s.
Many commentators talk about the fact that they would rather have lived during this time and then one of these people then to live in today's world which they see as trash relative to how these people lived. Although I did not spend much time working on this production, I did some film work with upper middle-class white 1960s baby boomer era teenagers and their attitudes and behavior we're not dissimilar from what teenagers felt in the 1950s in the suburban white "American dream" middle class. There were many rebels who looked like other teenagers at that time but were not. I remember a conversation that I had with the producer where he said that in this community, there seem to be almost no rebels.
It would certainly be fascinating to talk to these people today but unfortunately, I don't have the names of any of the people who participated in this film. Hopefully some will watch this clip and choose to comment.

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@smexehcougah3
@smexehcougah3 6 дней назад
I remember that the first time I realized that my parents both lived through the 60s without ever becoming hippies I was horrified.
@marttram2183
@marttram2183 4 дня назад
Why horrified?
@beemayhemful
@beemayhemful 2 дня назад
Why? The hippie movement was intensely selfish/self centered and pathetically short sighted
@kati1017
@kati1017 2 дня назад
Sound like they were sensible! Hippies were icky.
@gregshouse6140
@gregshouse6140 День назад
Yeah your parents sound terrible.. Probably out working hard to support your ungrateful ass.
@JeffyPDiddy
@JeffyPDiddy 5 дней назад
Every middle class and up baby boomer was privileged. They had THE BEST ECONOMY in US history.
@stevepick9527
@stevepick9527 7 дней назад
75 year old here….was 17 in 1966. I got decent grades, but one of the main reasons I wanted to attend college was to stay out of Vietnam. I got a 2-S deferment for four years. I will never forget the first lottery (after my 4 yr deferment) where I came up number 278 so I didn’t have to go into the service but two of my friends were killed in ‘Nam. I remember much of the craziness from 67 to about 72 with all the free love, hippies and tuning out. I was not one of them.. i’ve lived a good life made a good living had kids, and I still think of my two friends who didn’t have the chance.
@caustinolino3687
@caustinolino3687 6 дней назад
If you don't mind me asking, why didn't the two friends have the chance to go to college? Today the biggest barrier is money, but all we ever hear about is in the 60s and 70s you could pay for college with a summer job. I'm guessing the reality is somewhere in the middle.
@midnightspares
@midnightspares 6 дней назад
@@caustinolino3687The 2 friends had the option of moving to Canada for the duration of the war…….but there was also a stigma about are you a man & don’t you believe in fighting for your country. If only citizens knew on a large scale back then that government spin doctors manipulate communities through news programmes & pit neighbour against neighbour so to speak to conform & a line with government narratives to further enrich elites & large corporations which have a maze of links that lead back to Washington. Not much has changed.
@jacobkavinsky1813
@jacobkavinsky1813 5 дней назад
@@caustinolino3687 they died in vietnnam
@mr.a822
@mr.a822 5 дней назад
@@caustinolino3687 they didn’t survived Vietnam because they were caught in a military draft and had no choice under the rules and regulations of the draft, and if they disregarded it, they could had went to prison. Look up Muhammad Ali.
@nobaloneymahoney7940
@nobaloneymahoney7940 5 дней назад
Because they were drafted and all hopes for college webt up in agent orange​@@caustinolino3687
@LuminousPath13
@LuminousPath13 7 дней назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="420">7:00</a> The term “normie” is over sixty years old. I wonder how much boomer slang zoomers are using without even knowing it. 🤔
@finley2003
@finley2003 6 дней назад
Loads
@Jamie_Wulfyr
@Jamie_Wulfyr 5 дней назад
I'm sure. I remember using it in the early 90s and an older head in his 40s (at the time) chuckled and was amused that his generation's slang was still being used. One of my housemates carved "Normies are aliens" on the arm of our garden bench at some point during the same Summer. So yeah,it appeared to already be a generation old when us Gen X kids were using it.
@user-dl9hy5fj6y
@user-dl9hy5fj6y 5 дней назад
We all used boomer slang. Every generation after did. The media REALLY pushed boomer hippie culture on all of us in everything.
@aestroai8012
@aestroai8012 5 дней назад
yup. I'm surprised. But "cool" is over 70! I wonder if gen Y still use it?
@brwdl
@brwdl 4 дня назад
"Straights" is the term we used, '69-'75.
@maggiesmith979
@maggiesmith979 7 дней назад
I'm 73. I live in WV which means I live in the 50's again except with Fentanyl and Facebook. I can't wait to leave. I have no desire to return to the 50's. I was not considered college material in the 60's. This looks like the HS I dropped out of in 1965. I talked my parents into moving. I got a job and went to night school. Yes I did go to college. My parents were shocked but were ok with it. Even today I tend to have friends that are older or younger. I didn't, nor do I now, have anything tin common with these people. I think allot are having cognitive dissonance. Me, I'm doing okay. I guess I didn't have to deal with the same pressures from educated controlling parents others did.
@youngeye60
@youngeye60 7 дней назад
I have to move from California to Kentucky. My uncle lives in West Virginia. Is there any grace to that part of the country? What brings you/has brought you peace?
@janetcw9808
@janetcw9808 7 дней назад
Good for you! I wish you well, an older Yorkshire UK woman now living in Scotland 👩🏼‍🦯❤
@user-hr3tx6uu9o
@user-hr3tx6uu9o 7 дней назад
​@@youngeye60I can answer and I can't imagine living anywhere else. Was I priviledged?No! My mom made me go to work at age 15 in the summers as my parents were divorced. I had one dress that the rich girls wore but I did have clothes. And I wasn't in a clique ( those kids who did lived on the hill section,) but I had friends. My step-grandfather had left me 2 bonds. I had no idea! Was I popular? Yes. But not wealthy. All that helped me graduate from college. Looking back, the rich and pooular ones didn't make it after college and many dropped out. It was the ones who worked hard but weren't wealthy who made successes out of their lives-- even those who took shop in high school made it big! I'm still friends with many from high school and college.
@creepdimensions2405
@creepdimensions2405 7 дней назад
Feels like How I’m feeling in the same boat more or less, I hate my generation and feel like I was born in the wrong era, most beautiful woman and even regular looking woman would view a majority of guys like last minute or bottom of the barrel choices. Here in the states at least. I can’t help but feel like I’m in hell hating my fellow man while also having to take in any knowledge and take advantage of any chance I can get that’s hopefully in line with my morals. I just want to get away from this fucking country, I rather be a stranger in a strange land like Japan since after all it feels like I’m a walking stranger or even intruder in the lives of my peers and my asinine teachers and professors that seem to be only teaching me so I can teach.
@olgierd245
@olgierd245 7 дней назад
​@@creepdimensions2405what makes you feel all of that? Sounds very strong
@raymond_sycamore
@raymond_sycamore 6 дней назад
My dad used to tell me they called them "the ME generation," and I thought they made fun of us millennials!
@deltatango5765
@deltatango5765 7 дней назад
I was born in 1956 and one of the "shop kids". I went to a trade high school and studied to be an electrician, and so glad I did. I actually wanted to be in the electronics class, but it was full. Anyway, they got me my first job, which wasn't in electrical, but electronics, so it worked out in the end. I worked in tech for about 45 of my 50 years, so my time in a trade school was well spent. Even though I didn't have the easy life that these kids had growing up, I managed just fine without college.
@jlrutube1312
@jlrutube1312 7 дней назад
I was raised in the 60s and 70's. I didn't fit in to any particular group very well. My family was not wealthy enough to fit into the rich people's group but also was Christian and so didn't fit into the group that wanted to drop out and party and rebel. We just went to school and church and had friends and watched TV and rode small motorcycles and went on family vacations and had picnics and such. We just lived life and enjoyed it the best we could. So when I see this film about Webster Groves I don't feel like they were my kind of people but I don't hate them either. I probably was just a typical fairly conservative American kid who loved rock music and girls but also didn't want to be a rebel. I got married and had 5 kids and just lived a lower middle class American life. I'm 66 now and retired. I am still pretty happily married but am a little sad about America because I think it is falling apart.
@fasilharer1291
@fasilharer1291 7 дней назад
It would be cool to see how life turned out for those people now.
@marceloz7894
@marceloz7894 2 дня назад
that would be money well spent by these hack streaming services
@zyxwut321
@zyxwut321 7 дней назад
Wow, if there's EVER a case of, "the more things change, the more they stay the same..." Webster Groves is STILL a relatively elite older inner suburb, though it's slightly more diverse now than then. There are so many "Webster Groves" type of communities across the country who basically exist to maintain the status quo as much as possible. Biggest difference is nowadays, most of those types of families don't even bother with public schools.
@Teeveepicksures
@Teeveepicksures 5 дней назад
My fathers side has deep roots there but he moved to CA when he was still a small child. The stories I heard were of opulence until our Aunt Sally started donating all of her Tiffany Lamps to the church then losing the grand old family home in a fire.
@Mrfallouthero
@Mrfallouthero 5 дней назад
This is pathetic, and only serves to differentiate and distinguish one from another. How self-absorbed must a community be to uphold it's "image". I can only imagine what it was like for the first "diverse" families to enter those environments.
@rebeccachambers419
@rebeccachambers419 4 дня назад
@@Mrfalloutheroin this over the edge with diversity craze, it is really very stabilizing living in a community with common values. It’s like marrying someone with common values. We have taken diversity, as with most things, way too far.
@JB-eg1tb
@JB-eg1tb 7 дней назад
"I don't think any 16 year old child should be burdened by the problems of the world" I was also impressed by how well spoken the 16 year olds were in this video.
@jcbulldog533
@jcbulldog533 7 дней назад
They all were well spoken & very mature for their age.. Today's teens I find are not even remotely close to answering questions with that much thought
@hankskorpio5857
@hankskorpio5857 6 дней назад
Thats how people are when states view education as a priority and not a slush fund used to divert funds to the police for toys and politicians for embezzlement and cronyism..
@ikeu6433
@ikeu6433 6 дней назад
@@jcbulldog533neither did bush Trump or Biden it’s not the kids
@In_time
@In_time 3 дня назад
My thoughts exactly every time I see one of these films, is how well dress and articulate everyone was. Looking after their appearance and speaking thoughtfully wasn’t even a “have to” or “try to”, it was just _normal._ It’s devastating to me even as a millennial to know we will never be at this place again. And with the reliance on the internet, apps and ai, it will only get worse.
@mr.a822
@mr.a822 7 дней назад
Watching this, It’s strange that this hs in Missouri projected perfection while most of Missouri, The South & Middle America pride themselves on a blue collar mentality relying on common sense values with minimal education, which is not a bad thing. The parents in this footage felt uncomfortable when asked about civil rights, wars, and the uncertainty of the future.
@mariecait
@mariecait 7 дней назад
I’m a millennial and my parents are boomers. Growing up in the 90s my dad experienced wealth but that lead to him becoming increasingly irritable. My mom left him for his drinking. Just this past year they reunited. Boomers were so focused on image, money and success they forgot the importance of family and love. The happiest homes I’ve been in are not the families with a lot of money. That’s not to say hard work and money aren’t important because they are but coming home to an empty mansion has to be the most miserable feeling in the world. Love grows inside homes where people live and people are able to put differences aside and work together to make a better life. I live alone and never had children because my childhood and young adulthood were spent in deep depression. I never dreamt of a future due to my heartbreak from not having a home to come to. My parents reunited and live together again which has helped heal the hole in my heart. I don’t hold them accountable for the times they grew up and the messages they received effecting them negatively. With age comes wisdom and grace. God bless ❤
@AlhaqqTvchannel
@AlhaqqTvchannel 6 дней назад
I hope you get married and start a family. There’s nothing more fulfilling than being a responsible caring parent. You’ve learned from your parents mistakes and now know what not to do when you have a family of your own.
@llliden7724
@llliden7724 5 дней назад
My heart goes out to you. Late boomer here, widowed young,raised two children on my own. Always tried make my house a home for my kids. Had a good job that was very demanding. My Dad fought 2 wars. WWII & Korean . I was raised traditional middle class but my Dad drank too. Sometimes life was heart wrenching. His anger came out then.
@barcodenosebleed5485
@barcodenosebleed5485 5 дней назад
So very true and familiar. Thankfully no alcohol, but my boomer parents were roommates at best. Not a whole lot to work with when trying to model my own relationships lol. And then I was quite sick as a boy and figured I wouldn't make it to my 30s so thinking about the future seemed pointless. Doing great now and have my doggos. It's been good to learn how to be alone. But I would like to change that eventually. What you said about homes, I think, applies to communities and nations too. We're constantly told myths about how awful people we don't understand or are different are. Often all it takes is a few connections to break those down, a little bit of grace and reflection to find many of our own values reflected back but we're all so busy in our own bubbles.
@SharonPadget
@SharonPadget 6 дней назад
I’m 73. This isn’t how I grew up. Most of the kids I grew up with had working class parents. I lived in the north where there were good paying union jobs. If you didn’t go to college there were still decent paying jobs
@RoverT65536
@RoverT65536 7 дней назад
For me, the sound drops out around <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="600">10:00</a> for about 30 seconds.
@jdee3421
@jdee3421 7 дней назад
Probably a copyright issue.
@RoverT65536
@RoverT65536 7 дней назад
@@jdee3421 , yes, that makes sense.
@beverleypeacock
@beverleypeacock 7 дней назад
@@RoverT65536 I'd like to know what he says though..
@andyk192
@andyk192 2 дня назад
Happened to me too. Probably some kind of gltch when it got uploaded.
@drewpall2598
@drewpall2598 7 дней назад
This documentary reminds me of the 1962 song "Little Boxes" By Malvina Reynolds Little Boxes Little boxes on the hillside Little boxes made of ticky tacky Little boxes on the hillside Little boxes all the same There's a pink one and a green one And a blue one and a yellow one And they're all made out of ticky tacky And they all look just the same And the people in the houses All went to the university Where they were put in boxes And they came out all the same And there's doctors and lawyers And business executives And they're all made out of ticky tacky And they all look just the same And they all play on the golf course And drink their martinis dry And they all have pretty children And the children go to school And the children go to summer camp And then to the university Where they are put in boxes And they come out all the same And the boys go into business And marry and raise a family In boxes made of ticky tacky And they all look just the same There's a pink one and a green one And a blue one and a yellow one And they're all made out of ticky tacky And they all look just the same
@janineyoungstrom8221
@janineyoungstrom8221 7 дней назад
Yes. Norman Lear
@AdamsOlympia
@AdamsOlympia 6 дней назад
Weeds!
@kimfelopulos8139
@kimfelopulos8139 6 дней назад
I think if these lyrics all the time. Decades later.
@janetcw9808
@janetcw9808 7 дней назад
Thanks So Much for your lifetime of work 🙏🏼💗🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🐈‍⬛🧙🏼‍♀️🥃🥃
@faithunseen123
@faithunseen123 7 дней назад
The guy saying he must be looked at as a guest Villan on Batman,,made me smile😂keep these clips coming David,they are great!
@glennalmayer6563
@glennalmayer6563 7 дней назад
This is from 66, and just shy of the Summer of Love. I think the draft and Vietnam had a big effect by 68. I love seeing the creative ways in which the younger people live now. I doubt anyone is being shamed for simply buttoning a top button or wearing the wrong loafers now. Many boomers have worked hard to gain economic and social change and it is sad that has been swept under the rug as far as later generations awareness. I doubt that the corporate hold on information helps them learn about that sometimes. Lol on the car...so true. And most of the boys knew how to repair them. I wouldn't want to go back though.
@enginerdy
@enginerdy 6 дней назад
It doesn’t matter to the kids because when they look out ahead of them, they don’t see a future for themselves. The prospect of having a well paying job just because you go to college and work hard isn’t a guarantee. Try starting your career in a 10 year economic crater. The kids starting now see even less opportunity and they’re not wrong.
@glennalmayer6563
@glennalmayer6563 6 дней назад
@@enginerdy so just give up working on legislation and funding and trying to make it better?
@enginerdy
@enginerdy 6 дней назад
@@glennalmayer6563 that’s what the democrats have done, yes. Republicans never cared about that anyway. As long as the donors are happy.
@glennalmayer6563
@glennalmayer6563 6 дней назад
@@enginerdy true
@AXander1978
@AXander1978 7 дней назад
THREE HOURS STUDYING??? That's why genX was starting to mentally check out of school in the 80s and 90s
@enginerdy
@enginerdy 6 дней назад
He’s talking about in college. But of course that’s bogus, you mix hard ones and easy ones and spend 3 to 1 only on the hard ones.
@handlesshouldntdefaulttonames
@handlesshouldntdefaulttonames 4 дня назад
I put a top level comment on there before seeing yours but i think you're absolutely right. " I live a little south of Webster, even into the late 90's the educational system acted like this was the norm (talking about the professor at 5:30) I cried every single day in elementary school because I got up at 4 to catch a bus at 5:45 and then rode the bus for 3 hours to school (was usually late to 1st class because busses were late) and then was expected to do the same in reverse in the evening PLUS 6 hours of homework a night. I stopped doing homework. Totally shut down in 5th grade." I'm an "elder" millennial, turning 36 this year and it has affected me my whole life. I don't think I've ever stopped being burnt out.
@THATGUY-ir4ie
@THATGUY-ir4ie 2 дня назад
@@handlesshouldntdefaulttonames Elder Millennial..lol. You were around when it was called Gen Y.😅😅😅
@handlesshouldntdefaulttonames
@handlesshouldntdefaulttonames День назад
@@THATGUY-ir4ie No one would have known what I was talking about if I had said Gen Y because we aren't called that. Generations typically get a letter identifier until they've developed their sense of identity. That's why Gen X is still Gen X. They didn't do anything.
@THATGUY-ir4ie
@THATGUY-ir4ie День назад
@@handlesshouldntdefaulttonames What did “Millennials” do that got them a certain identity?
@chris.swearengin
@chris.swearengin 6 дней назад
I’m still young. I’m just a baby to you guys, but realistically, I love learning from this channel, I can’t really relate at that time, but I can take my mind back in time to see how it was and that amazes me. thanks David Hoffman for the video. You have a wonderful evening.
@m.c.5459
@m.c.5459 5 дней назад
Why would they rebel. They had everything. Gen X was the first generation to do worse than their predecessors. They had a reason to rebel.
@stephennootens916
@stephennootens916 5 дней назад
First they did not have everything, other than their cars everything they had was their parents. Second they were under massive pressure to conform. Individualism was squash down and on top of that if you were male without the right connections or able to go to collage your ass might wind up in Nam.
@Yourmission9
@Yourmission9 5 дней назад
Look at all that diversity! These “kids” saying they wanted to be financially successful grew up in the BEST time to do it in. Cost of living was insanely low, and you could work making minimum wage and afford a decent home. Compare that to today’s standards. We’re in the late stages of capitalism in my humble opinion, the sheer level of greed, the corporate income tax being as low as it is, and now the “conservative” politics are turning this country into something unrecognizable
@Nun195
@Nun195 5 дней назад
A lot of the issues in the USA would simply go away if the tax rates were set back to those in the 1950s.
@Torgomasta
@Torgomasta День назад
“We are in the late stages of capitalism in my humble opinion” lmao your humble opinion is a memorized line repeated by every non thinking young person 🎉🎉🎉
@jayalexander3356
@jayalexander3356 4 дня назад
Yeah, "rebelling" was great fun until the hippies realized being dirty, smelly, drug addicted and penniless wasn't as much fun as they thought. So they became the "yuppies" of the 80s.
@3DEditor
@3DEditor 6 дней назад
Rich white Mormons always raised their families with very high expectations and very strict rules.
@reidellis1988
@reidellis1988 3 дня назад
I was born in 1970. I grew up in Provo, Utah and grew weed in my Mormon parents backyard.
@3DEditor
@3DEditor 3 дня назад
@@reidellis1988 you were known as a Jack Mormon or Apostate. Once your bishop found out, you were either disfellowshipped with restrictions of taking the sacrament and holding any calling until you cleaned up your act, or you would be excommunicated from the Mormon cult.
@reidellis1988
@reidellis1988 3 дня назад
@3DEditor My dad was a bishop, and you don't get excommunicated for a drug problem. Adultery is the main reason for excommunication. I am a convicted felon and don't participate, but I haven't been excommunicated.
@3DEditor
@3DEditor 3 дня назад
@reidellis1988 disfellowshipped then, with the risk of excommunication. I'm very familiar of how they run things.
@nielszindel1151
@nielszindel1151 7 дней назад
2024, little boxes on. the hillside, little boxes made of ticky tacky and they grow to go to university where they all protest and cancel anyone who is different and does not think like them. Delia Morris
@ferney2936
@ferney2936 7 дней назад
it reminded me of the song too
@terryowen6759
@terryowen6759 5 дней назад
If these families are truly the wealthy....isn't this still the way it is now for the rich? They live in a different world
@ruth_gordon
@ruth_gordon 7 дней назад
This was FASCINATING. Thank you for sharing this, David 🤯
@Primitarian
@Primitarian 5 дней назад
People back then seemed so much more serious, better dressed and well spoken than they generally do today. And this was the 1960s!
@janineyoungstrom8221
@janineyoungstrom8221 7 дней назад
This was a SEGMENT of the population. Not everyone was rich. I was part of the middle class population as were my friends. Yes, it was a great place to grow up in many way ( class of '66). I also knew of those who DID rebel, early hippies. I mixed with them all.
@izzydeadyet7336
@izzydeadyet7336 7 дней назад
Rebellion back then must have been a real shock to parents coming from the old days! Most of these kids would be children of WW2 vets!
@aeromodeller1
@aeromodeller1 6 дней назад
@@izzydeadyet7336 Most of the "rebels" had parents who questioned things.
@JWF99
@JWF99 7 дней назад
"You label me, I label you!" 🎶 It's cyclical, seems to never end! ☮✌
@exgamerr
@exgamerr 7 дней назад
Thank you so much for your videos and work David Hoffman. I always enjoy watching your videos whenever they pop up in my feed. Keep up the good work!
@tictac9229
@tictac9229 7 дней назад
Thank you for the video 😊
@jennybugsification13
@jennybugsification13 5 дней назад
I'm 47, and you're documentaries have peppered my tv viewing for years. Thank you for yet another amazing peek at the life that was, in a time where those same people are now in power. ❤
@fifthgear93
@fifthgear93 7 дней назад
Oh wow, what I coincidence, I just finished watching your video on Webster Grove from 3 years ago, clicked on your channel for similar content and I see a similar video uploaded right this minute. Definitely watching this one as well.
@fifthgear93
@fifthgear93 7 дней назад
Oh wait, this is a reaupload of the same video. 🤔
@dabzprincess92
@dabzprincess92 7 дней назад
Me too so the comments and 👍 are beating the algorithm
@jmflyer55
@jmflyer55 6 дней назад
Well, anyone who says kids are the same now, and these kids were only hiding the truth, I think is pretty clueless. While 95% didn't believe in premarital or promiscuous sex at 16, todays 12 and 13 yr olds are already addicted to pornography and know more about sexual promiscuity than their parents do. As for their appearance and mannerisms, and their ability to articulate their thoughts, again, what I see in many of today's kids is borderline illiteracy, and a lack of any future goals. I make this comment fully understanding I'm speaking in "general" terms, and today, certainly not all kids fall under the categories I've mentioned, and their ate kids today that excel. I'd just say that the percentage is FAR below what it was in those days. I was also in school at that time and remember! These kids are a fee years older than I am, but nevertheless I still remember.
@hughjass69702
@hughjass69702 4 дня назад
"So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark-that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back."- Hunter S Thompson
@kellygilbert-rios6319
@kellygilbert-rios6319 7 дней назад
Brilliant. Thank you😎
@pacoy5319
@pacoy5319 7 дней назад
I am 71, went through only military schools, as a dependent. I'm grateful...❤
@glosteiger2517
@glosteiger2517 6 дней назад
A weirdo and rebel here. Still happy with that decision. I could never conform.
@conclavecabal.h0rriphic
@conclavecabal.h0rriphic 5 дней назад
Brave weirdos and rebels like you made it far less dangerous and difficult for us weirdos and rebels who came after you. For that I am eternally grateful.
@djinnmagik4817
@djinnmagik4817 5 дней назад
Great documentary David! Thanks for sharing 😁
@nafmav1611
@nafmav1611 5 дней назад
great job David! keep up the good work
@d.b.2812
@d.b.2812 6 дней назад
It would be Nice to see how things turned out for them!
@janineyoungstrom8221
@janineyoungstrom8221 6 дней назад
When we gather for reunions there are no divisions among us. Time has been a leveler.
@Ryan713
@Ryan713 2 дня назад
I grew up next to a town like this. My town was straight up middle class, and we always felt our neighbors were looking down on us, although no one I knew experienced this in a real-life example. My household emphasized hard work. I recently "worked with" a young woman who grew up in that town. Her desire for success and need for expensive items was almost nauseating. Me, I like to have fun, and I pursue artistic endeavors on the side.
@IMBrute-ir7gz
@IMBrute-ir7gz 7 дней назад
Why did the sound drop out when those tuxedoed middle-aged people were dancing? Looks like that school had a pretty strict dress code. Same with mine here in Florida in those days. I certainly don't miss all the hairspray, curlers, and rollers it took to make a girl's hair do those impossible things!
@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker 7 дней назад
The sound of dropped out because RU-vid didn't allow it as I no longer have the copyright license. David Hoffman filmmaker
@billdescoteaux
@billdescoteaux 6 дней назад
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker It sounded like they were playing "Keep On Dancing" by The Gentrys.
@janineyoungstrom8221
@janineyoungstrom8221 6 дней назад
There was not a school dress code that I recall. Certainly not like now. We knew what was appropriate.
@PhilipDrown
@PhilipDrown 7 дней назад
Loved this! Truly!
@lja6214
@lja6214 7 дней назад
Outstanding!!👏 Your documentary mirrored so much of the small town Midwestern views/ way of life in the 50's & 60's. I feel fortunate to have grown up (in a smaller city) in the 70's. There was still pressures but not comforming as it had been. 😀
@Jason-xb3jh
@Jason-xb3jh 7 дней назад
Wow…. That’s a fascinating perspective. It explains a lot about my parents. They came from the group that did not “rebel” also.
@user-xd1ex6kh1r
@user-xd1ex6kh1r 6 дней назад
Like this channel. It is a window for me to know or confirm whether it is right compared to what I had in mind about America when I was a kid in 2000s (in PRC). Like watching a movie but in fact they are all real people. Grateful to your work here sir.
@RAEckart22
@RAEckart22 7 дней назад
Lol, they didn't like the documentary because they couldn't control it & show Webster Groves to be a little Peyton Place town
@jameysummers1577
@jameysummers1577 6 дней назад
Its funny how the lingo changes... "necking" I asked my 12 year old if she knew what that was. She didn't know. "retarted" My 12 year old said that noboy uses this bad word anymore. "two timing" She thought this was a dance that old people did in the old days. "The Soviet Union" She said that this is something that old people say. I graduated in '94 by the way.
@Fawnarchives
@Fawnarchives 6 дней назад
Well you’re asking your 12 year old about relatively mature topics. I’m 17 and I know what those terms mean because they are more relevant to my conversations. I’m not sure if this is a generational gap or if shes just 12 years old
@jameysummers1577
@jameysummers1577 4 дня назад
@@Fawnarchives nobody says two timing anymore. It’s always called cheating. People stopped using necking probably in the 60s or 70s. Today it is not acceptable to call somebody with down syndrome, retarded. When I was growing up, and a kid was acting out in a horrible way all of the time, you called them disturbed. Those are all terms that I knew about years ago when I was 12.
@2bleavin
@2bleavin 6 дней назад
I googled this docu it was huge at the time & many of the these kids, married each other & stayed in area. They still come together for reunions etc
@tj921able
@tj921able 6 дней назад
I love this look at the past. Thank you for sharing it. God Bless You and stay safe.
@your-name-here.
@your-name-here. 6 дней назад
Social media has ruined our youth
@Fawnarchives
@Fawnarchives 6 дней назад
i’d say that the absolute disaster of our economy has also ruined us. there isn’t much motivation to reach our goals when we know how unrealistic it is to even be able to afford a home
@down-to-earth-mystery-school
@down-to-earth-mystery-school 5 дней назад
Well, we certainly didn’t want to be like the people in this movie.
@Autodidactz
@Autodidactz 4 дня назад
​I agree and the ME Boomer types in this video. Painful to observe from afar now that I live in the UK
@leinad5243
@leinad5243 2 дня назад
You mean social media formalized...nothing new
@TonyClifton3
@TonyClifton3 7 дней назад
Thank you Sir.
@slokestope3769
@slokestope3769 7 дней назад
This is a really interesting look at the 50s american community and mindset, I love their reaction to theirselves. Appreciate your work David
@jcbulldog533
@jcbulldog533 7 дней назад
This was 1966
@aestroai8012
@aestroai8012 5 дней назад
God Bless David Hoffman! I'm in my mid 40's. I went to a private school, but I always wondered where all these formalities came from. It's so icky. I play rock, and punk, and I understand why everybody was so hung up back then.
@patrickstromann3836
@patrickstromann3836 6 дней назад
Wow. When the white 1960s cop is the voice of reason...
@marjorjorietillman856
@marjorjorietillman856 5 дней назад
I was amazed too! I was in elementary and that’s the year we had to integrate. Somehow I was able to survive and made the honor roll. I had one Whtye teacher that treated me like a human, which helped with the transition!❤
@CindyCindy-ob9kl
@CindyCindy-ob9kl 4 дня назад
I would have parroted the same thing when I was 16 because that was what I was taught to want. I didn’t realize that I was abused, physically and mentally. It took years to learn to think for myself. This “study” is crap
@IamHeartofLioness
@IamHeartofLioness День назад
Thankyou, this was an interesting viseo, thank you. Did I see charles Curalt interviewing? Your channel is one of my top 5!
@jdee3421
@jdee3421 7 дней назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="154">2:34</a> - An acronym or something she wants to do?
@mikoaj3283
@mikoaj3283 7 дней назад
Hello David, big fan here! In the beginning you mentioned 'clips from the doc' - do you usually post just clips from your films or do you upload the whole thing? If the first one is true, are you open to posting the full versions more often? You're a real one, best wishes
@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker 7 дней назад
From time to time I do post the complete film but really as they are not watched like the clips are --the clips get a much larger audience. David Hoffman filmmaker
@skyrocketcoast219
@skyrocketcoast219 3 дня назад
Well in 1966, in San Francisco, I was 15 year old girl & decided to live a gypsy type life for my survival- I had 1 parent - a alcohol mother..so i became a hippe not by choice , i suppose.: .never took drugs Kept my nose clean, because if I got nabbed , they would throw me in a juvenile detention center, foster home or Group home....bounced around to Aunts & Uncles good family friends homes age 14 to 19... By 15 I was cleaning houses, and doing gardening work for neighbors & babysitting 24/7. I went on to get A A. Degree & a B. A. from San Francisco state university. I was lucky...all my friends took all kinds of drugs..it never tempted or appealed to me. Yeah so I was a hippee chick & kept on keeping on!
@acustomer7216
@acustomer7216 7 дней назад
Ah but the "Socies" only inherit the earth within the city limits of Webster Grove!!!😂😂😂 I grew up in a small town like this as a late baby boomer & I couldn't wait to escape.
@StrawberryBored
@StrawberryBored 5 дней назад
I love watching these types of documentaries. I’m a millennial and my parents are boomers. These kids have a certain sense of certainty about life that the kids I grew up with and myself didn’t have. We were all too aware that nothing is guaranteed
@Cotif11
@Cotif11 День назад
I feel like I'm watching a cult.
@h.w.barlow6693
@h.w.barlow6693 2 дня назад
Wow look how well-spoken and thin everyone is.
@RDEnduro
@RDEnduro 7 дней назад
Pleasure to watch another vid and story from you
@BAD_CONSUMER
@BAD_CONSUMER 6 дней назад
Did not realize the term normie was this old. I'm glad its being recycled and getting new use.
@LL-cz5ql
@LL-cz5ql 7 дней назад
thank you for reminding me why i subscribe to you, why i like film
@Ravenoflight2275
@Ravenoflight2275 4 дня назад
Mr. Hofffman you do great work.
@saynotop2w
@saynotop2w 6 дней назад
Fascinating
@WVMothman
@WVMothman 5 дней назад
My aunts and uncles did everything you were supposed to do at that age, singed up for military service & went to college through a G.I. bill. They weren't phased by Vietnam War protests or counter cultures of that era. I did have one Uncle receive a draft notice & was disappointed to fail the physical for the simple fact he was deaf.
@globe2555
@globe2555 6 дней назад
I liked the way they talked at that time.
@joegiuffrida6779
@joegiuffrida6779 2 дня назад
I grew up in a progressively suburbanizing town in Suffolk County NY with a continual flow of city folk buying small homes in the area. I became a teen ager in the mid 60s and became interested and involved with the sub cultural influences that were being promoted on radio stations like WNEW out of NYC. These FM radio stations were like transmitters for all of the locations in the area where “underground” bands were surfacing whose music was greatly influenced by the Timothy Leary LSD doctrine as well as bands like the Greatful Dead, who were huge proponents of the drug culture in general. I was infected with this new “culture” through my older siblings. In retrospect, I have come to believe that if the majority of parents in any given community understood the value of education and were playing a major role in their chlidren’s lives, and was widespread within that community, I believe most young people wouldn’t pay much mind to the alternative cultural influences in those places. All it took for my older siblings to go wrong was to meet and develop friendships with other kids who were already being indoctrinated and experimenting with drugs. It was like a virus at the time that was spread from one person to another through acquaintance. It is my understanding that many baby boomer parents didn’t have a clue on how to intentionally raise their kids, thinking that they would just grow up and become what they were supposed to become in the way that they themselves did. How wrong they were.
@222radar
@222radar 5 дней назад
Fascinating!
@jmflyer55
@jmflyer55 6 дней назад
Hi David... Thank you! for your work as a filmmaker, and thank you for sharing it with us on RU-vid now days! Otherwise chances are most of us would have probably never seen your work. I've already left a rather lengthy comment, which focused on the differences in youth of this film (1966) in stark contrast with today's youth. But on a completely different thought, but a thought the film shows clearly, is it exposes the wildly accepted myth people talk about and also believe today, that any and every young person of the 1960's, was a draft dodging, long haired, unkempt, counterculture advocate, smoking marijuana, dropping LSD and carrying around a sign of protest that reads "Turn On...Tune In...Drop Out"... SO many people today, especially millennial aged young adults, believe that every one of us who lived through that period of time are former "hippies". And obviously that's just not true. That's something Hollywood for one, has impressed upon the minds of people via popular films etc.. Along these same lines, I'll offer up another false belief people have today about that era, which has also been accomplished primarily via Hollywood films and is believed practically as 'gospel' today. The false idea that every Vietnam veteran, experienced massive, non stop drug use through their time fighting in Vietnam in the service. It seems almost everything we see today that comes out of Hollywood regarding Vietnam, shows a bunch of enlisted Army grunts sitting around smoking a joint, 'high as a kite' and then going ballistic with their M14's & M16's in close range jungle fighting. This simply is NOT true. All the stuff we see depicted in that way, is an absolute fairy tale. Were there some "stoners" there, who did these things? Yes, of course. But FEW. They were definitely the rare exception, NOT the norm. And unlike the movies, it certainly wasn't the 'war hero' types as depicted in films doing it. Hollywood has done all they can, to glamorize the drug smoking/drug taking "cool" looking Vietnam soldier image. Sorry folks, that wasn't the case in real life. First off, if caught with drugs, even in Vietnam, you'd be court-martialed. The military doesn't allow drugs now, and they didn't allow them then. Many of my buddies who went to Vietnam, some on multiple tours, when asked told me they never ever saw not even a single occasion, where a fellow soldier was smoking grass, or taking anything else. And THAT is the reality of the situation. I realize this comment is off topic regarding the film, but this false belief so many people have today of drug use in Vietnam, closely parallels the false belief this films exposes, being that children of the 60's were all long haired hippies, who attended Woodstock screaming Turn On, Tune In, Drop Out at every chance they had! It's simply NOT true, and is a product of Hollywood false "pop culture". Thanks again David for presenting us with your wealth of films and clips! They're truly enjoyable to watch! PS*... Just FYI in case you're unaware. There's a problem with the audio cutting out about half way through your film. It then comes back on as a close shot of you narrating comes back on screen.
@katanaki3059
@katanaki3059 6 дней назад
Blows my young boomer (b.1959) mind why the generations are supposed to resent each other so much
@down-to-earth-mystery-school
@down-to-earth-mystery-school 5 дней назад
Because this generation of Boomers who conformed, created a mess with our country. They keep upholding the status quo, care mainly about money and status, and vote for fascists
@user-nb4ex5zk3w
@user-nb4ex5zk3w 6 дней назад
Of course these robotic people were in the majority back then. The revolution of the 60's affected every thinking person but most didn't drop out, they continued with their education and careers, but with a more open attitude.
@StephanieJeanne
@StephanieJeanne 7 дней назад
That cop was spot on. Great commentary on your documentary, David! I agree with your final analysis. They weren't comfortable with the country seeing them as they were. Thanks so much!😊🩵
@costernocht
@costernocht 3 дня назад
I believe Life magazine did a photoessay sometime in the late Forties about Webster Groves teenagers.
@handlesshouldntdefaulttonames
@handlesshouldntdefaulttonames 4 дня назад
It seems that at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="599">9:59</a> YT copyright filter is muting the video due to the music. It cuts out abruptly there, and picks back up at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="626">10:26</a>.
@jarrowmarrow
@jarrowmarrow 5 дней назад
My mother was born in 47. She often says about her generation "We were so sure of ourselves." And thats all she's willing to say about the subject. I do get that personal responsibility finger wag.Its a little hard to take.
@XxCrawdadCraigxX
@XxCrawdadCraigxX 7 дней назад
good video
@TonyisToking
@TonyisToking 6 дней назад
This is my Grandfathers theory of why society isn't doomed to fail and that there is a way to prevent it. You allow small cycles to occur within society so that natural tendency has an outlet, rather than let it spread through repression. The Romans could have used this philosophy... wouldn't you think? I'd argue although moments like this didn't become the norm, it's actually perfectly natural and going according to plan. And ironically, it's for the same reason... Being Rich and Priveleged. People who are Rich and Priveleged who do rebel usually do so because they have the safety net of their family. They will go off and feel free because they know there is something there to catch them if it goes wrong. And often it is the case that every single one of them ends up working in line with their family tradition.
@TonyisToking
@TonyisToking 6 дней назад
Incredible video, by the way. As always. Thank you for sharing, David.
@jarodcarnarvon5198
@jarodcarnarvon5198 6 дней назад
Oh wow. My Dad was 16 in 1966. My Mom 13. Definitely their era LOL
@handlesshouldntdefaulttonames
@handlesshouldntdefaulttonames 4 дня назад
I live a little south of Webster, even into the late 90's the educational system acted like this was the norm (talking about the professor at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="330">5:30</a>) I cried every single day in elementary school because I got up at 4 to catch a bus at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="345">5:45</a> and then rode the bus for 3 hours to school (was usually late to 1st class because busses were late) and then was expected to do the same in reverse in the evening PLUS 6 hours of homework a night. I stopped doing homework. Totally shut down in 5th grade.
@Frates1
@Frates1 2 дня назад
That’s an insane school day, no wonder you broke down.
@AndrewLoukidis-jr2bp
@AndrewLoukidis-jr2bp 5 дней назад
Love to see how they turned out
@marlissemurguido375
@marlissemurguido375 5 дней назад
The amount of anxiety these kids had!
@bingbong7431
@bingbong7431 6 дней назад
Mr Hoffman, there's a company called Celemony who has a product called Capstan which can correct the warped artifacts from these older tapes having aged, at least for their digital re-recording off of the tape/vinyl. may be of interest to look into if you'd like to remove those artifacts from your uploaded versions of these older film.
@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker 6 дней назад
Thank you. I will definitely take a look. David Hoffman filmmaker
@colleensclassroom8915
@colleensclassroom8915 7 дней назад
Thanks for a very enlightening film! I especially got a kick out of the woman @17 mins. Thankfully, we've come a long way baby!
@Primitarian
@Primitarian 5 дней назад
As a member of "Generation X," I find it fascinating to discover what the Baby Boom generation was rebelling against. I still believe at least some were rebelling because that remains the portrayal of mainstream media. Nevertheless, I take it from this video that many were not rebels, and along those lines, I make the following observation: Despite whatever "rebellion" took place in the 1960s, the classism of the 1960s remained remarkably intact throughout 1970s and the 1980s. So long as you came from a rich, well-connected family--or were extraordinarily athletic or good looking (though in the long run it was probably best to be rich)--virtually everything was forgiven and the world was there to help you, privilege you, and cheer you on. If you weren't in that elite, you could get still ahead, but you needed high marks and high test scores to go much beyond high school and would probably be invisible. The differences between the decades seem to me largely superficial: the later decades were more casually dressed and more prone to slang (though take note: make sure you wear the right casual dress and use the correct slang); instead of the "friendship dance" I heard only of the prom; the waltz gave way entirely to rock music; instead of having a "nice personality" you needed to be "cool." But whatever the changes in fashion, underlying it all was the same golden rule: he who has the gold makes the rules.
@maxkopfraum
@maxkopfraum 7 дней назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="308">5:08</a> 16h of class per week? we had up to 40h of classes in the 90s
@JakoWako
@JakoWako 6 дней назад
Not 16 hours of class. He’s saying for every hour of class you need to study an additional three hours outside of class. Professors told me that too a decade ago. Some classes that was needed, but the key was to mix in some easy classes that you didn’t need to study as much for.
@maxkopfraum
@maxkopfraum 6 дней назад
@@JakoWako Look at his blackboard math, he's working on the assumption of 16h of class per week, leading to 48h (16x3) of self study. Now I think he's talking about university there, not high school. But still: such a sparse schedule became very rare in the later decades.
@dabzprincess92
@dabzprincess92 7 дней назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="157">2:37</a> happy but has the K.I.L.L. on her shirt 😂
@AKAHeatherJoy
@AKAHeatherJoy 5 дней назад
My mother grew up in Australia but she would have been 16 in 1966. I'm trying to see her in my mind as 16.
@TheOldnic
@TheOldnic 6 дней назад
It's an interesting thought they are perceived as conforming and the 60s a downfall. Around 1950 the USA did decide it had a homicide problem, it was around something like 40 per 100,000 in the 1950s and steadily has decreased with spasmodic spikes in numbers (smaller and smaller spikes) to recent years where all USA has had as little as average 6 per 100,000 homicides nationally despite the mass killings. * Note , statistics annoyance is often the "total population" is used as denominator , rather than actual number of adults or (and or) relevant age totals along with not enough label of the graph result "title" defined properly if the sectioning is drawn properly from parameters input. E.g. Australia has a population total of 25 million and a homicide rate 2 per 100,000 a year but only 8 million relevant people , so therefore a homicide rate of 6 per 100,000 relating perpetrators valid (and usually many more joint responsibilty homicides where more than one murderer is part of the actions and activity). Perpetrator based statistics , it's more like 12 to 24 per 100,000 relevant! Australia and Britain's Commonwealth colonies also has a phenomenally high portion of murderers that are females, and too, as violent as the males!
@HazeOfWhearyWater
@HazeOfWhearyWater 5 дней назад
_"Didn't participate in the 1960s."_ You had to drop out and take acid in order to have "participated"? How do you participate in a calendar date?
@sirphineasluciusambercromb9114
@sirphineasluciusambercromb9114 5 дней назад
This was the 1980s high school experience among affluent kids who had both parents and both sets of grandparents with college degrees. Poorer high schools were more violent but no more politically aware.
@vinaigretti
@vinaigretti День назад
I wish I didn’t care what people said and dated someone from this generation when they were in their late 50s and 60s
@Nancy-nn2tc
@Nancy-nn2tc 5 дней назад
Amazing today to hear about 90% of young people being happy with their lives back in 1966 affluent America. Nowhere in America are young people happy today. And older people aren’t happy either. We’ve lost happiness.
@Nun195
@Nun195 5 дней назад
Capitalism.
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