Definitely make a Tantillus! I’m really curious to see how the fishing line works, and also if you could scale it up. I know scaling it up is the opposite of “tiny” but still, I’m curious.
@@barrag3463 some Parts are a bit Tricky to source if you are not in Europe And it was a pain to get the Linear Rails drilled 3 Broken Drillbits and a DIY EDM Machine later it works and I regret nothing Barely any heatup time Powerup to Print start is about 30 Sek It runs a Pi3, if there is no 'Known Wifi' it acts as its own Accespoint, i can Upload the Gcode with my Phone/Tablet/Notebook I had it Printing for 2 Hours while taking the highspeed Train through germany Since the Power outlets are rated for 90W its just within the Margin
A friend of mine still has a sugar mixture based printer in his collection. It was used primarily to make the removable parts of a casting mold... and edible sugar crystals on occasion.
WAIT.... WAIT WHAT?....... that's one of the single best ideas for making rough metal parts on the cheap I'v heard of. Print it in sugar, bury it in sand/clay mix, and incinerate the sugar out by lost mold casting with molten aluminum or the like. No more styrofoam or wax..... that's seriously smart, you just have to refine and file the parts a bit after casting.
@@theLuigiFan0007Productions Pla works just as well. Pla actually makes really good for making molds like that. If you wanna do metal casting at home, using pla and casting recycled aluminum is the easiest way to start.
@@lobsterbark So it can burn away quick enough? I presume with a super slow infill percentage so it's basically a hollow shell. But that's interesting to know.
@@theLuigiFan0007Productions yeah, you can make the print insanely thin and hollow inside very easily. You can also add channels to let gas out or anything else you might want for a better casting much more easily than you could with most other methods of mold making.
Pros: Usually can print at faster speeds assuming the injector can keep up Less parts, so cheaper to buy/maintain. Cons: Usually a smaller print volume due to the nature of the angles involved with the axis drives.
@@stephendowdle5537 I have several delta printers - and everyone of thems absolutely dimensional accurate. If it's a well versed firmware you're using, it's more a myth then a thing. Deltas had these problems in the very early days, back when they were driven by 8 bit micros. But nowadays with 32 bit microcontrollers it's entirely a thing of the past. My anycubic Kossel Plus/Pros wipe the floor with any cheap I3 design. Printspeeds well in the 300mm and absolute accuracy paired with easy maintenance make them the most loved childs of all my 9 printers family. Also you could make them in any z-height you want, just by changing the aluminium extrusions, belts and linear rails. My only con would be the bowden-extruder you need to achieve high movement speeds. printing flexibles just isn't a thing. But that's my A-net A3's job anyway ;)
My first 3d printer was a delta printer and I still have a fondness for the design, some pros and cons: Cons: 1. Difficult to access the print head to clear jams, change nozzle etc 2. Related to (1), difficult to add direct extruder, so generally limited to Bowden (personally I like Bowden) 3. Frame is not inherently rigid, and because of shape is difficult to reinforce to make rigid 4. Difficult to fully enclose print area 5. Relatively tall for a given print volume Pros 1. Fixed print bed 2. Light print head so can be fast 3. Probably the best design if you want a *really* large printer
I love the "what if"/"why isn't there a..." mentality that 3D printing thrives on. I've personally had so many projects, successful and not, start out like that, and I love the physicality of printing something, holding it in your hands and contemplating if and how I could improve it. From simple things like fixtures to "larger" (for my still-kinda-amateurish standards) projects, 3D printing has allowed me to (attempt to) solve problems that would've otherwise stayed errant thoughts. A toast to the makers who started it, to the ones driving it forward, and the ones to come in a hopefully prosperous, just as curiosity-fueled future 🍻
I personally worked on a 3D printer startup as the head 3D artist and it was extremely exciting. I saw my whole future in the company then it went tits up. Not because of technical issues or a lack of interest, but due to frigging embezzlement by the treasurer! I will not say which company it was because it falling still legitimately hurts and even when things were trucking along a lot of our early investors were bizarrely hostile and tech-illiterate. Expecting a 100% finished product to ship on day 1 despite our transparency on the progress of the printer. They were out for blood when the company went under but ultimately did nothing. It is all a distant memory now yet I still cannot help but think "what if" to this very day.
I remember back when I first read about RepRap and the Darwin I was really excited, to the point I almost started a project to make one. But at the time I realised I didn't really have the tools or experience to pull it off, especialy as the software at the time was in its infancy. I then kind of forgot about it, occasionally observing from the sidelines the arrival of the MakerBot and the Stratasys controversy, but it wasn't until the last couple of years when 3D printers became so affordable I finally took the step and bought one. It's amazing how far they have come in what is only a few years - makes me wonder what the next 20 years will bring!
Same here. Was going to make a larger version of the Darwin using linear bearings (still have them laying around somewhere). But the realization of the missing skills needed plus the death of a friend that was going to work with me on it ended that plan. Been watching developments over the last few years. May be time to dip a toe into the pool again.
These last few years the progress seems to have basically stopped, at least in terms of FDM printers. The Prusa i3 is still the best design overall, and printers that specialize in specific things haven't really improved at all since about 2016-2018. Most of the progress has been in the availability, price, and quality of parts. Like for instance cheap filaments are now almost all really good, the various manufacturers seem to have mostly standardized on what to add to improve the quality, stepper drivers have all gotten cheap, you don't have to solder anything anymore to build a printer, if you buy a 3d printer part from a sketchy cheap source it will usually still work. All the progress is now in UV resin printers.
Thanks for mentioning the tantillus 3d printer I have one laser cut version and plan on making it all in metal and try to print in peek. As of now only the frame is in laser cut aluminum planing to cast the plastic parts in aluminum and add water cooling and insulation to make it better for peek printing for use in dentistry.
I'm a relative latecomer to the 3d printing scene, and this glimpse of the history and origins was really interesting! Especially the Darwin, which clearly follows the same sort of arc as commercial jet aircraft or self-loading rifles: massively complicated and over-engineered at first, and then steadily getting simpler and more efficient. Very cool! So yes, I'd love a similar video exploring delta printers. :)
I think, considering the Chinese market, we should include the Anet A8 printer. As far as I know, it's no longer available for purchase, but at the time of it releasing, it was ground braking. Yes, it was a Prusa i3 clone, but for around $200 you got a very nice quality 3D printer with a reasonable (220x220x240 mm) build volume, and also with heated bed. Of course for $200 corners had to be cut, so there was no auto bed leveling (Z homing was made possible by a momentary switch) and the frame was made of laser-cut acrylic (which made the printer somewhat wobbly), but it was very affordable even for us, living in the Mordor side of Europe (East to the former Iron Fence).
I definitely think the A8 deserves recognition, but perhaps in a list of market disruptors rather than historical forgotten machines. For a few years they were unavoidable, but they most definitely had some serious safety concerns. I feel like they only really fell out of fashion because other machines came in and replaced it at its price point. Whether that's a good or bad thing is up to the individual I suppose, but I do find it's led to quite a bit of same-ness in the 3d printer space for the last couple years. Most definitely a good one to remember, though! Thanks for sharing.
I have a sintron i3 - a very similar printer to the A8, but doesn't seem to have quite the fiery reputation/popularity. It arrived in kit form and the instructions consisted of a couple of photos and rough diagrams, so assembling it, then getting marlin set up and the printer working properly taught me a lot about 3D printing in general and significantly more about the actual process than if it had just been working out of the box. Then once you have it working, the cycle of break, crack or melt something, bodge it back together and print a better designed replacement part starts :). Who in their right mind thought an acrylic panel directly under the heated bed with as much material as possible removed wouldn't warp and cause a loss of leveling? :). Probably shouldn't say it, but I haven't updated marlin since as I think I have probably lost the config files and don't want to set it up again or recalibrate from scratch :).
@@jg374 My Anet A6 came with a faulty acrylic part in 2017. A friend told me to send it back under warranty (yeah right lol). I ended up using some gaffa tape to hold it together to print a replacement part. It's since been a Theseus' ship of replaced parts, although I still have the original frame, heatbead and power supply (and the screen which I reverse engineered the connections for). My Marlin is still from 2018 when I did most of my upgrades since I don't want to reconfigure new Marlin versions every few months, even when I added an new SD card reader and recently a filament runout switch. I have written down all the config settings and store them with my spare parts to speed it up in future.
Oh Zcorp. I still have a few of them! We made so many amazing things with them, from movie props used in film to models of Snoop Dogg and skulls for The Smithsonian! Great rundown! We had a business model for that sugar printer too LOL, still salty about it!
I will always love my Simple Metal. It was the first 3D printer I've ever had. Modded the crap out of it and also fixed almost every part of it. Still have it and still works. Will always have a special place.
Powder-based printing is such a great approach to printing and it's really baffling to me that there's been so little development in the open hardware space. I'll have to keep an eye on the Brill.
Angus, speaking of making a Tantillus - you should be making all kinds of printers at this point. Create your own printer design, you obviously have the CAD skills and surely the skills to handle designing a ckt around an MCU (it's not hard, just follow the spec sheet!) and make a series about it. Angus' foray into designing and building a 3d printer from scratch!... and have seasons where each one is a new machine.
My dream 3D printer project has yet to be tried. When 3D printing exploded one of the parallel dreams was potentially using recycled plastic, like HDPE. It was completely abandoned because filament was difficult to make and then 3D printers moved in the direction of speed and accuracy. But what about a printer that was designed to use large terrible filament? What if our slicing software compensated for HDPE's high level of warping? Why is desktop injection molding under $200 being pioneered by ONE guy? (Shoutout to Buster Beagle) Why is spring loaded press molding something that only I've thought of? (Plug for my channel, InventTory) Why is the potential of using garbage plastics not one of our primary goals?!
It's impossible to find your channel because when you search, youtube just assumes you misspelled "inventory". It would be easier if you featured it on the Tory Evans channel
Absolutely revive the tantillus, as someone who moves a lot, having a portable 3D printer like this that I can easily carry around would be an absolute bliss... Heck discovering it now I'm already considering building one myself ! XD
Ah, Angus. You are taking me on a nostalgia trip. I also thought the Sugar Lab would be a must buy, but I wonder if Stratasys canceled it because they realized they couldn't chip powdered sugar. Also, that Tantalus. Here's an idea: Scale it up. Tantalus Maximus.
very timely. a couple of anniversaries right about now. 2 February 2004 RepRap invented. 9 February 2008 RepRap 1.0 “Darwin” successfully makes at least one instance of over half its total rapid-prototyped parts.
Just FYI, RigidBot did delivered and not over promised. And at the time it was most kick ass 3D printer, Take in account HUGE at that time print area 300x400 and steel frame. I STILL run 2 of them ! One on original everything, Second one using SKR board with Hemera Extuder. PS. Yes original PSU was shit :)
I had the pleasure of sitting next to Nicholas Seward at the Second MRRF. His mind works in mysterious ways indeed. Mad scientist is a perfect description. Not only is he incredibly brilliant but he is unbelievably humble about that brilliance. And I love that for a lot of his designs there's no software to support it so he would write translation scripts to take normal gcode and post process it so his innovative designs could even function. Truly an amazing individual.
YES THE GOOD OLD TIMES I got first SLA in 1984 and have participated in all development steps in FDM. Have designed and built 18 FDM printers so far and I am still thrilled YES please make more videos
YES - *Tantillus*- _Go for a vid !_ 2 early/2 late...always wanted one. Where's -Wally- Nicholas. Dammit I started 3 times gathering parts ...never got any of those things finished 👍😎
Oh man, the printrbot... I took charge of maintaining about a dozen of the Printrbot Simple Metals for my school district's makerspace, because I was able to figure it all out myself. I was an intern there in high school, and I really enjoyed learning how it all worked. That's what actually got me a job with a local 3D printer manufacturer that focused on 100% American made components, that unfortunately couldn't keep up with the lower and lower price points. Great memories, though.
Thanks for that trip down memory lane! I remember well marveling over the candyfab, and Nick Seward's designs are still some of the most original thinking in the whole 3d printer universe.
Oh my God, I had a MOD-T and it was shown 2 seconds into the video... Unlike a lot of other Kickstarter printers, it at least did arrive and did print and looked good doing it, but it was *loud*. The rolling of the pinions would vibrate the plate making an oppressive grinding sound that while harmless, made it useless as a living room conversation starter art piece, which was the printer's main draw.
I have built a RapRap Tantillus, I still have it, If you have any questions about it feel free to ask me, I can't promise I can answer every question but I would be happy to share what I learned from my experience.
A 3D printer designed to recreate, replicate, and improve its own design and parts in a way that requires mostly, if not only, the 3D printer itself *sounds cool as fuck*. Are there printers out there that are/can be build from parts you can 3D print?
My old Highschool had the BFB RapMan, surprisingly didn't print that bad... Though all the acrylic ended up cracking so they ended up throwing it out. They were actually going to give it to me, but the school's shitty IT team cut all the wires rendering it inoperable... Still pissed at that IT team, god they made some stupid decisions
Thank you, Angus, for another interesting video. I discovered 3D printing and cad modelling while in hospital 15 months ago. I have since purchased a Prusa printer and can identify many of pioneering techniques of the early printers.
Would love to se you building a Tantillus!! That would be a cool thing to have if it was possible to carry in the backpack and be able to print wherever you go away from home 🙂
Yay BFB Rapman got a mention!!! I started with one of those back in 2010 and designed a replacement corner set for it, been printed about a dozen times from thingiverse. Good times
I'd love to see more about deltas and the other bizarre ones you showed there, and I'd like to know more about polar printing experiments. I have a (mostly just whimsical) idea for a polar printer I'd love to build, but I'd rather have the software at least somewhat prebuilt by someone who's worked out the math and some of the problems first.
The Bits from Bytes printer was the one that got me into the hobby. Did some work on testing different plastics to build the case from with the guy that owned the company (who knew Adrian Bowyer well)
You always make great and interesting content that isn't a rehash of someone else's.. I really appreciate your channel and enjoy the videos, keep up the awesome work! BTW, I would love to see a build of the Tantillus.
Wow a great 👍 roadmap or as darvin would say the 🧬 and survival of the fittest , it is not only the biggest or fastest but right feature at the right time of evolution defines success.
We went from Crude sugar sculptures made by pioneering experts. To so amature making ghost guns in his basement, And mosaic war fare doesn't seem too far.
I wrote my Masters dissertation on building a 3D Chocolate printer last year. I really enjoyed researching the history of 3D printers and discovering some of these awesome machines. Brilliant video again.
I actually have a modified laser cut Tantillus beside me while watching this. I never managed to get it to print, but it is now a PCB CNC driller, which works very poorly, but I haven't yet had the opportunity to make it a bit more rigid.
@@MaxNippard that would certainly be possible and also visually quite interesting. You could have not only the wires, but the whole control board on one of the walls
I love the Tantillus! When it was originally released I even went so far as to print out a few very warped chassis/frame pieces on my Sells/Prusa Mendel hybrid. Just the other day I rediscovered the design and I’ve been debating printing the frame in one piece on my sidewinder.
Super interesting concepts explored here. I'd love to see you review or compare printers that are larger than 350mm. I feel like there aren't too many options at this size and the videos I've seen in RU-vid are either old or are revising older machines.
I've got a metal simple :D wonderful machine. On the topic of "portable" 3D printers, you could buy a metal handle to mount on top of the z-axis rods of the Metal Simple, and carry it around like that!
When I first heard about rep tap it really caught my interest, I was really into welding at the time so I immediately wanted to modify a Darwin or even a prusa 3d printer with a mig welder instead of a plastic extruder. It never came about because I was straight broke and managing my finances was never something that interested me at the time. Fast forward a solid decade and change and I've got my life together and also picked up an ender 3, I think my goals are still viable and I'll end up making it happen eventually..
I recommend looking up the channel "Cranktown City" - he has a couple videos on his work trying out a similar project. Might help give you ideas / awareness of possible issues.
Love the video. As some others have stated, I got into 3D printing late, this is the first time I've seen the Tantillus. I, for one, would love to see you print that in the original multiple parts pieced together version. Though small printers are cheap, I'd like to see if it's worth the effort, since I only have my original printer without a heated bed, that can barely print 175mm cubed.
Ahh Angus, thank you for the shout out at the end! That chat with Nicholas blew my mind! What a brain on that man! He also has a channel himself: ru-vid.com 😊
I also had the absolute pleasure of interviewing Lenore where we talk about the candyfab and eggbot and other amazing things she's done! Ended up being over of the most inspiring conversations of my life. Allie and I were just having our minds blown over and over. 🤣 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Htn3sILXYvU.html
The sugar one makes me wonder about a glue gun based sand/dirt 3d printer. Simply using the hot glue gun as a binder for the dirt/sand with extremely cheap material pricing & vast material accessibility.
I still have my old Rep Rap Mendel based clone! Actually got it printing pretty good! Reqires constant tweeking to get to perform. I would love to see you reproduce the Tantillus! :)
How long before you stop doing videos on robots and 3D printing and turn into a modular synth channel? To me it looks like the number of stuff you had before has increased quite a bit.
Yes please make a delta history video! Loved this one but are more into the delta. They are just more fun to watch print and easy to run without that build plate moving around. Thanks Angus!
I wanna do something like the candy fab, expect as cheap FDM supports. not sure how i'd do that tho, but pva is very expensive not environmentally friendly either i think
My first printer was a Cupcake by Makerbot. Cost about $800 USD at the time. Now using a CR10s Pro, cost $850 CAD, a far better printer for a lower price, showing how things have changed. I haven't been here for a while and, Wow! Almost a million subscribers! Way to go, Angus.
Angus, One day you'll have to make an aside video, giving a breakdown of your music studio. You have some interesting equipment there. I also have a mini digital studio to create music for myself now, but in my past life I used to write for adverts and the like. It would be interesting to see and learn what keyboards you use and why you chose the equipment you have. I think that would make for an interesting video, thanks! ~Markus
There were quite a few unique vapourware printers too - the buccaneer, the peachy, the olo. They were all fairly unique but sadly never came to be. Maybe you could do a video on those... Looking forward that tantillus build!