I personally would recommend the acid lab over the moc, because it can be fitted with a ram. The ram, any ram, makes it so that the traffic doesn’t stop or slow you down. This makes it easier to keep track or get out.
So does the MOC cab. Ram ram… It’s half the reason why I use it. I find myself going faster than most of these sports cars because none of the actual NPC cars affect me because I just ram them
@@TKillin acidlab has the best ram in the game, well second best, first best is the ramp buggy and wedge. the npc fly when touched by the ram. its far better than the moc
I love when you're able to get Mk II Griefers on the ground, cause it shows how dependent they are on it. A friend and I were playin Salvage Yard missions, when we got blown up up by one of these guys. We then proceeded to smoke this guy. We started in the lower part of the city, and by them time he went passive to my organization, we were halfway up the map in the desert, my friends score against him was 38 to 10 and mine was 42 to 8. He cried about 1v1 us or something (even though he messed with both of us) and then promptly left. Such a good feeling XD
@BrendanRHamm that's how trolls end up crying so n e dude blow me up when I was doing a mission I ask him if I did something wrong I even I apology to him if in a i way I offend him I ask him can you please tell me what I did he answer you been a naughty papi so I was nice and give him last chance n I told him I'm serious tell me what I did yo you he said been naughty so I told OK dude imagine giving you a chance to apologize or you will leave this server crying he said bring it my nephew was already looking at us from the sky lol 😆 my nephew is a beast on the game he ask me what. Happen uncle I told him have fun with him to he quits dude he make that dude his b$%^ lol 😆 he kill him so many times that they got close to the army base lol 😆 the guy send me msg he report me n finally quit 😆 n I send him a msg n I told him you been so naughty boy 👦
The Deluxo is vastly underrated as a grief counter. Ever since the MK2 nerf it's been one of, if not the best counter to MK2 griefers. It has the strongest tracking missiles in the game, No matter how good their maneuvers are the Deluxo missiles will always hit
deluxos are quite overrated imo, easy to counter and they fly away when they get the chance and or can’t lock on. guerrilla warfare in the air/ and are basically the mark ll with four wheels 😂
A few small defensive tips when facing a mk2 in just about any ground vehicle. From a bigger distance away, driving right towards the mk2 at a decent speed will often cause their missles to miss you. It just about only won't work if their missles are shot from the same altitude as ground level. And when the mk2 is close to you even driving at a low speed towards them is enough to make the missles miss. Staying right under the mk2 will not allow it to lock on too.
@user-kf4lm4qv4gare you for real? Driving towards the mk2 after a missile is shot will make it miss 100%, did you forget that it got nerfed? It’s extremely ironic that you said “you are getting shot by children who can’t shoot” while also displaying 0 knowledge 😂😂
@user-kf4lm4qv4g You can't be serious? You do realize they nerfed it to oblivion right? The missiles were the best in the game. Now they're straight doo doo rockets. They also went from unlimited capacity to 20 if I believe. They track differently as well. The real kicker. It's 8 million. 6 if you unlock the trade price. That doesn't even include upgrades. The only use I can see it having now is for mobility. To move around the map faster and complete missions easier. If you have the right skills, there's a lot of vehicles that can easily counter a MK2. It's nowhere near OP as it was before.
I've been using the Thruster to kill MK2 trolls for YEARS because it's invincible to missiles when flying straight. Certain missile barrages can slip one past the heat exhaust, but most of the time you will not get hit flying straight because all missiles explode on the exhaust behind you. (The Thruster was always this way and it amazes me that still no one knows this)
@@dajmos6969 what are you on about? The Thruster invincibility definitely still works unless they just changed it yesterday (and I certainly didn't have any patches)
TheProfessional talked about this a couple years ago. I haven't had the best luck with it, but maybe it was because the missiles weren't catching me from directly behind - more from an angle, launched more from my side at not-so-long range. Even flying in a straight line, I've been shot down in my Thruster by a MkII on several occasions.
@@arcanewyrm6295 yea you definitely gotta be at full speed. If you slow down or turn, you gotta pop your flares. As long as they run out of missiles before you run out of flares, you're good
@TedKaczynski_RIP invite only lobbies are bent. boring even with friends. literally zero action and you should be able to kill griefers easily enough. they suck mostly.
@@jonathan2755 it doesn't matter if they suck when they are cheating and using mods. The safest thing to do is to get in a Kanjali tank when they are on foot.
I only grief when I find interesting targets: Total noobs below level 15. Anybody in a store or a mod shop. Anybody delivering goods. Very experienced players, above level 800 but in a vulnerable position - they often get very salty when you kill them and they can't kill you.
All great options but a little extra note about the toreador, it appears as a normal dot on the radar so you can EASILY catch any mk2 by surprise, they're suicidal if they're up north with no tall buildings for cover. And both toreador and ruiner don't need any time to lock on, the milisecond it targets someone just fire... it will hit them 😆
Fun fact about the MOC cab, if you're one of those people that like doing the haulage VIP mission in public lobbies you can use your MOC cab to attach to the trailer and it gives the trailer the same amount of armor as the MOC cab, meaning griefers won't be able to destroy it so easily.
the deluxo is actually a better counter for the opressor than the toreador. although the toreador can tank about 5 rockets, if the opressor comes from behind you do not have time to turn around and shoot them. The deluxo, on the other hand, altho it cant tank any missiles, it can dodge the opressor missiles very easily. You just need to fly in circles while the missile is going after you. this "dodging missile" thing only works properly on bad tracking missiles (which is the case of the opressor or any heli or jet). but its harder to dodge missiles if its coming from a deluxo or a toreador etc. deluxo has the same type of missil as the toreador and ruiner
I remember when the Imani Tech vehicles came out griefers thought you were cheating because they're too smooth brain to realize their MK2 ain't gonna aim for them anymore. They were still under the impression that the MK2 was king and that they don't need to try something new or acknowledge that an update came out allowing for lock on jammers.
Close call between the Toreador and Ruiner for me, the Toreador only edges it because the map blip icon doesn't give away what it is, can usually surprise a mk2 this way
Before i do a NC sale in a public lobby, i run a CEO Haulage mission with the MOC cab. I get an idea of how many greifers i will be dealing with, and usually they get bored and leave me alone, then i do the NC sale in peace. I use ghost org in the city too, and my last 5 NC sales have been easy, successful, and all done solo.
What me and a friend used to do is get a chernobog and a heavily armored vehicle, we plant the bog in a open field and start shooting at mk2 bikes far away while the armored vehicle is always in between the bog and the target. If the bike comes close it will automatically start locking onto the armored vehicle instead of the bog. The dude in the armored vehicle can also shoot flares for more protection. I don't remember ever being killed by the mk2 bike when doing this tactic and it's very funny watching giant missiles go towards a tiny target.
Best part about the fully loaded ruiner is that it can't be locked on too while in that mission but overall best car (in my opinion)the buffalo stx with missile lock jammer its fast has good handling it can be weaponized u can shoot out of it it has bulletproof windows and explosives resistant to a certain extent and the louvers added to the back window on top of bulletproof glass makes it hard for enemies to kill u if they are behind you it's a menace both free aim and auto aim lobbies mostly free aim though
To clarify to anyone about the MOC cab, normally it can tank 68 honing rockets and it will blow up on the 69 rocket, but 3 mk2 it can tank and it will be smoking but even smoking it can still tank a bit Edit: for the nightshark it can take 26 honing rockets and blow up at the 27, RPG, and sticky bombs I believe it is 9, also a good practice with the nightshark is to NOT put the window covers, they only allow to use the machine guns, if you left it with no window covers you can throw out sticky bombs
Yeah, but if you want to throw sticky bombs then the EV Imani tech cars are the best. Players will have to fly real close to you in order to hit you with a missile
keep in mind that there are some vehicles that follow the laws or physics when throwing sticky bombs. the Nightshark does and the MOC doesnt. What that means is that the MOC will only throw sticky bombs 5 meters away. on the other hand, at high speed, Nighshark can throw bombs 150 meters away (enough to reach the opressor on the air)
I would also recommend Alpha - Z1. While you cannot fight back, it's extremely small, agile, fast and has countermeasures, meaning unless they get lucky railgun shot, or they posses explosive sniper, there is no danger. Of course, experienced jet pilot or chernobog user can still be lethal, but the extra perk of frustrating Deppresor users is worth it, in my opinion.
I didn't actually know the Ruiner could tank so many rockets. I always thought it blows up from 1 rocket like a normal car and that's what stopped me from buying one (well that and the price tag pre-adjustment), so I guess now I have to buy one lol
My go to is always the Toreador and the 300r because neither one shows up on the map as a special vehicle so you get the surprise MF factor with both. Its also fun in the 300r because not many know it has lock on jamming so watching them fly behind you figuring out why they cant lock on is priceless
this, and the “la coureuse” / “omnis egt” are both excellent for snow terrain. both have anti missle jammers/ imani tech. and both also show on the map as regular vehicles 🫡
@@jzking2k115I use the toreador for offensive. Then I use the terminus and stinger wity Imani tech for defense. The terminus has great handling and is surprisingly fast. Then the stinger for speed as it's one of the fastest vehicles in the game.
I use the Virtue when MK 2 griefers are around. When equipped with the lock on jammer, it's very hard to hit by the normally terrible players that use MK 2s. It accelerates extremely fast. The griefers will usually fly lower to try to hit you giving you the opportunity to hit them with stickies.
yeah anti lock ons pretty much counter everything lmfao, jets still can be avoided by driving under shelter, sticky bombs and anti lock ons ruin a depressor chuds day, any of the rocket cars usually lose a sticky bomb off or just ram dead into them, they usually blow themselves up in a panic. unless the griefer your up against has been on for 6 weeks straight getting good, u win
Thanks for the tips! I like all the methods mentioned. I have every one of the vehicles in the video except the Ruiner 2000. Now I have to get that one. I seldom ever get attacked by MKII griefers anymore. My biggest foe is modders. It annoys me when I go for a bounty and then it turns out to be a god-mode loser. I use all the vehicles mentioned, except the Ruiner 2000 because I don't own one. When I do, it is because I am trying to bait them into attacking. But I like going after grifers. It is fun to own them. I use Imani Tech RC for that all the time. When I notice a modder or am going for a bounty, I use the RC Bandito, Invade & Persuade Tank, Imani Tech RC, Mercenaries, Special Forces, muggers, and warping to the facility and apartment. I like to spawn in Paleto Bay and call up one of my Imani Tech cars with RC. Then I steal a car and start driving toward downtown. I am hoping to attract the attention of a modder or a griefer. As soon as I notice one coming at me, I get out of my car and go into RC Tank or Bandito mode. All of a sudden I am off the radar. "Oops! Where did they go?" says the stupid griefer/moder. Never mind where I went because it's too late for them. Now they have a mark on their head. I'll chase them down in RC and when they least expect it, BAM, I take them out by exploding the Bandito or blasting the crap out of them with the RC Tank. The Invade & Persuade Tank is tough as nails. I'm across the map and go into Imani RC that I left parked in Peleto Bay and come back like a raging terror. The main point of doing that for me is stealth and when they destroy the RC they do not get a kill on my character. In fact, a player complained just the other day, "Hey! Why didn't you die when I blew up your Jubilee (or other Imani)?" my reply, "Imani Tech" if I replied at all. If the loser is in god mode, I run them over and sit on them as much as possible. As long as I have them on the ground they can hardly do anything. A lot of the time they leave the session. That's a win. God mode player kills on you don't really count. The reason why is that they cheated. They cheated because they were basically losers. No-skill losers with zero talent. Rest assured, if a modder goes after you, you are probably the better player, or else they wouldn't be such a little p***y loser and go god-mode. I almost forgot to mention the Akula and Raiju. They are handy for sneaking up on a griefer and taking them out. SUPRISE! 😈 Sorry for the long post. I get wordy in the morning. LOL
The worst modder is the ones kicking you from the lobby by fucking with P2P network packets. I hate those type of loosers / gamers. Happens on both console types too (PS and Xbox, and you are not safe against them on the new gen. console either)
@@grilsegrils9330, I'm on PC. I try to remember to turn on VPN but it doesn't help with all of the modders. I think some modders use free menus that aren't very good and other modders pay for advanced menus. If I encounter a really nasty modder all I can do is switch sessions. I still try to never let them get a kill on me. Deny them their candy.
Any time I'm in a public lobby and there's an MK2 griefer, I instantly pull out the EVX. Most of the time, they get absolutely bamboozled and either fly away and find someone to grief or before they scurry off, they send a derpy message trying to get me in my feelings. Let's just put it this way, MK2 griefers are some of the weirdest sub species of humans on the planet. Yeah cool, you can click a button on a jet bike. Like you said, they don't want to use effort or skills. They just want to press button and LOL.
My question to people who always complain about griefers in this game is, why don’t you find ways to defend yourself if they’re such a pet peeve? They would often claim that doing it is a waste of their time, but objectively it is satisfying to teach a valuable lesson to those who deserve it. Good video as always TGG
Not everyone finds it satisfying to teach other people a lesson they deserve. Also it used to be a big waste of time because the MK2 griefers used to have stronger tracking rockets and there weren’t many counters. Plus imagine every time you play the game you are buying nice vehicles but you can’t ever drive it around in a public lobby because someone might show up and grief you, or you have to constantly drive a specific vehicle to counter any griefers
@@bellcranel8873 Griefers are a part of every game man. Yes it is annoying how they find thrill in ruining your experience, but at least show that you're not afraid to protect your best interests. If it's a fight they want, show them what war is really like.
Slight correction: The Toreador has the 2nd best missile type as far as I know. The Scramjet (and Ruiner as you've said) have better missiles and personally I like to use my scramjet to counter them since a lot of these griefers are unaware of its power haha. Great video as always 💯
The lock on tracking for all the cars is the same (mk2), and the two oppressors and aircraft have lower quality tracking (mk1). However, the RANGE is different, and the Scramjet has one of the furthest lockon ranges of any vehicle with mk2 missiles.
I think that the Toreador missiles have been nerfed because I'm finding that it doesn't track as aggressive as before. Also all homing rockets should be set to the buzzards; homing launcher needs a slight buff it tracks like the RPG
Funfact: The armorplates on the windows from the nightshark are not protective, they are just for the looks and remove the ability to use any kind of weapon. So they just nerf you instead of protecting you. So just to be on the safe side remove them and use the full potential of the car cuz its really good.
The regular ruiner 2000 is underated and should be In here you can call it in if you have a cool down on your mechanic it has the absolute best missiles in the game and it's jumping feature allows you to dodge the oppressors missiles it's amazing.
Instead of the nightshark, i'd rather use the Insurgent Pickup custom with another buddy, cuz that thing has basically the same armor against rockets, and also has a MG at the top, which is useful to blast those MK2 griefers out of the sky.
Imani tech Jubilee (Rolls Royce Cullinan) fully armoured and upgraded takes about 4 rpgs, 12 homing missiles, or 10 explosive rounds, as long as your in the vehicle (RC mode is less). I personally chose the remote control option on this car to hide on the map, which in itself is so OP. Most of the time I drive until the pvp dies down or the griefer leaves. Remote control turret or shooting device paired with the vehicle sports suspension also allows you to shoot through most windshields. Also spam oil slick proximity mines to get anyone driving off my tail 😅 and the windows are bulletproof just enough to let you get out of dodge
If you’re good with the B-11, the explosive cannons can be used to fling them off their mk 2 or even kill them, yesterday I found a lvl 340 killing a lvl 19 with the mk 2 and i knocked him off his oppressor with my B-11’s explosive cannons and got him on ground 30-18. USE B-11 (After I knocked him off I crashed into him and fought on ground)
An honorable mention is the Thruster. Sure, it's rockets can't track well enough to consistently put any down. But rockets will blow up behind it harmlessly.
The ocelot virtue is so good for it because it’s an electric imani tech so it can take 20+ rockets, and they can’t even lock onto you, meanwhile you are able to accelerate from 0-100 in about 1 second
I was just driving down the road minding my own business and someone killed me for no reason while I was in my nightshark just by shooting thru the window it was hella easy just to die like that. They should make it harder for ppl to kill you in those cuz I’m really not trynna deal with anyone’s bs. Thank god for invite only lobbies
I'll definitely buy a Fully Loaded Ruiner at some point. But always fun driving my Acid Lab, and griefer either shoots a few missiles first or just looks at my Acid Lab for a bit and realises that they cannot win 😁 And I can just go about my business. Acid Lab is my go to vehicle for the business battles. Fly close to the location, then switch to Acid Lab, park it outside, steal the crate and just drive to my Nightclub in my Acid Lab without issues.
IMO the nightshark is one of my biggest spending regrets. There is still a hole in the windows and somehow griefers can one tap you with normal bullets, or fire an explosive directly into the hole 100% of the time.
I absolutely suggest the night shark over any of these vehicles, it is just the best, especially from a defensive standpoint. Also, don’t put the window playing on it, that makes it useless.
@@shekool18 Most these youtubers never do pvp so its really annoying when they say "get window plating for more security" lmao Or in this case a ruiner 2000, which is very killable, even on the CEO mission
@briefpencil but even when the youtubers that actually fight are using vehicles, they almost never use the nightshark, its usually something that directly counters the mk2 like a deluxo, (before the jet nerfs) the lazer, or just pure skill
The Bravado Greenwood with the Imani tech is my favorite because it looks almost like an everyday car and doesn't have a special map icon so nobody can tell it's a teched-out car unless they're up close
Lockon jammer tip: there's a glitch going on where the jammer doesn't work, it only happens when you take the car out of the garage, all you got to do is request it outside the garage, if you go in a garage jammer breaks so don't go in to fix your car just return your car then request it
I been giving them hell lately since I’ve gotten better at tactics. Honing missiles have evened out the playing field for us people who can’t afford an oppressor lol
Best thing about Imani Tech electric vehicles is, you can get a Virtue for free by completing all the Dax missions (go to R on the map and then to D). The missions also come with a $50k or $100k first time completion bonus and they unlock the Acid Lab business. Dax is a gift that keeps on giving, because afterwards, you can do Fooligan missions by calling him or talking to him in person which make you 50k each, and take about 5-10 mins. After 10 missions, you unlock the acid lab equipment upgrade - which massively increases the potency of your supplies, the rate of production and the value of your products.
I despise Griefers, I have no clue or understanding of how or why doing that crap is even fun. Being a libertarian I live & let live, and help others if I can. They make it where my son doesn't even want to play, because of Griefers!!!
There are some interesting facts about the armor on the MOC and Acid Lab. While the MOC Cab is indeed stronger than the Acid lab in terms of homing missiles, it is not the same story with RPG's, the Acid Lab can take roughly 48 of either homing or RPG, the MOC Blows up after about 20-30 RPG's. I also tested the Acid Lab and MOC Cab against the Dual 20mm Flak AA Trailer: The MOC Cab takes 4 to destroy, the Acid Lab takes about 8-10. 20mm Flak, if I'm not wrong, is the most powerful explosion in the game, not including the Orbital Cannon. One interesting fact about the old armored cars (any car with armored plating that has "(Armored)" in the name.) is that they have some incredible resistance the first explosion it takes, it will survive any explosion in the game as long as it hasn't been exploded prior, It can take a 20mm flak like nothing, even a ballistic missile from a Kosatka, but 2 homing rockets and it's destroyed. Some weird game logic, but I found that interesting.
Whenever I see someone teleport to facility, immediately go into your RC and drive it around running speed, they will think you're still on foot and waste an orbital.
@hussle2654 i may be wrong but since the target wasnt actually killed, the orb gives back the money and resets the shot cool down. Not sure if they changed it but who knows
Acid lab if you put the plow on the front most things just go flying when you hit them , just be careful of low curbs when your angles down it will clip it and stop you .
You know, honestly i just get my service rifle and walk a lot of times. You'd be suprised how many opressor mk2's i've shot and most other griefers don't expect you to be on foot so when you have explosive rounds in your shotgun you're pretty much good to go for most other vehicles when they come close.
Whenever I see griefers, they're always using mods/hacking, thus rendering literally anything useless. But this is a great list for overall strong vehicles!
I personally hate the anti lock on vehicles. Not because it's a good counter, but because Ive dealt with so many of these when I'm trying to defend my product during sale missions. The fact that they tank so many explosives make it very difficult to defeat them before they take out 1 or 2 trucks/helicopters. Because of this I will always hate these more than oppressors.
I took three hits in my Duke o' Death from a MkII griefer. I wasn't expecting it to actually survive that, but it got me to the safety of my Agency, so it was a nice surprise.
this is why i always play in private servers, i started playing on public again but after like 4 days i encountered so many griefers so i stopped doing public
Another cool thing about the Imani tech vehicles, you can get one for free if you finish the quest line from Dax and the Fooligans. This means you only really need to spend $400,000.00 on a lock jammer which should easily be covered by a trip to the First Bank of Cayo Perrico.
Oh and pro tip: completely off topic but in the wheelie challenges, use the Acid Lab Bike. If its fully upgraded, youll be able to travel about 40,000 feet and everyone else will be stuck at 1400 max. There, now ill never win that challenge again
Love to see the fully loaded Ruiner 2000 getting love, I've only been blown up in it by a Khanjali. The Khanjali is one of the better options to go against the fully loaded Ruiner 2000
Main problem is that griefers will often mess with you during sell mission where you can’t use any personal vehicles. Instead you’ll be crawling around in a Boxville or something. Best protection against griefers is just to play in an Invite only session, because F the community. A full lobby is absolutely impossible to play in
I agree with the first part. But public lobbies are where it's at during sell missions. Easy 200k+ bonus money for selling in high population lobby. Just activate ghost organization and keep an eye on the map
@@AFFI909 I have 130+ cars, I have helicopters, planes, bikes, tanks AND 245 million in the bank. I'm not playing it for the money. I hate public sessions with a passion. I should also note that I play on PC and the amount of cheaters (god mode etc.) is absurd. You will never find me in that crowd ever. One of the best updates GTA has done was to allow sell missions in an invite only session. Never going back to public
I have recently fought MK II briefers on a full spec Sparrow and I noticed how badly they seem to panic once I dodge the missiles with flares. I highly recommend it for anyone who is confident flying helicopters, they always seem to assume they can take you out on a single shot.
Best thing about the night shark is new players can pick that and start out with it. Fresh such an OP starting vehicle. Loved it. Didn't even have to spend all of the three mil on it
While this video has good intentions, too many people are gonna use it to grief and try and act like they are doing nothing wrong. And no one will be able to stop them.
There were these griefers that had Nightsharks just killing everyone. I had used the acid lab with the huge ram and emp mines and I was having a blast just destroying them by only using an AP pistol and the acid lab.
I watched somewhere the windows on the nightshark are not bulletproof. Might be worth testing that. It turns out you are just as safe tinting your windows and then it helps with your offense as well as defence.
