@@wisemencompany GunMag Warehouse soemtimes has them 11$ for the plain ones. 12$ for colors. KInda insane really as nice as they are. also, as far as ETS mags go ive never used them but that "Cam" thing., the auto loader for pistol mags- that thing is fire.
CProducts/DuraMag and Okay are by far my favorite. The rest are dumb. Too many PMAGs like to be sticky in my receiver. Lancer just looks stupid and is too complex and I just don’t trust the aluminum feed lips to stay. Like damn. Make a plastic mag or make a metal mag. The hybrid is goofy. Oh and ETS Group mags are trash. Instagram was pushing em hard. They’re junk.
@@chrispewkremefeedlips on the lancers are hardened steel, and are injection molded around. They’re not going anywhere. With that being said I prefer okay surefeeds.
@@chrispewkreme This comment is all emotion and little fact. The Gen3 PMAGs shouldn't have any issues dropping for an in-spec lower. The G2's are the only magazines on the market that stick in my LMT Lower with it's slightly tight magwell.
I guess most ppl are idiots ..the point of springs are made to be compressed so they should be fine loaded for years ..maybe its cause I did have some engineering schooling and kinda one of the first basics you will learn about
Good video. My old agency issued us ancient aluminum service magazines (to go with our ancient issued M4's and M4A1's...). My first step was immediately ordering Magpul innards (springs, anti-tilt follower, etc.). Juiced them up to decent.
The Gen 3 PMAG uses a dust cover that should be used if you are storing it for long periods. The cover will push the rounds slightly down so that the ammo doesn't put stress on the feed lips.
@Sharon Smith not sure how long you can leave them loaded that way without the dust cover. I kinda agree it's a point of failure and needing a dust cover to keep the mags loaded is a bandaid to a problem that should be addressed. I do trust pmags but typically use them for training and range use. I've been slowly moving towards Duramags (steel and aluminum) and Lancers if I'm putting away magazines loaded for long term storage. Magazines aren't expensive but it is an added cost. Magazines are a throw away product too so I had to start training myself to destroy and throw away mag bodies and springs once they've become unreliable. Typically the follower can be saved. If you've purchased dozens of pmags for long term storage that hurts to have to possibly exchange but I'm personally straying away from pmags now for this reason.
I have mostly duramag speeds then about 10 heavies. Got 3 pmags, a couple hex mag and 1 fab defense to test them out but I like the reassurance of metal over everything else.
no one mentioned DD 32 round mags!!! i have had great luck out of them on both 556 & 300 BO.... the commits bout the Lancer mags "spitting out ammo" i have never saw personally as a RSO, and we have a lot of people go thru quals!!! the Hexmags i have saw a few with issues... the worst for issues is aluminum mags from everyone.....bent, dented, abused, you name it & they still think they are great!!! i see more Pmags come thru then any other mag tho!!!! thanks for sharing with us... be safe out there
Trust my life to: *Lancer AWM L5 *Magpul P-mag gen-2 and gen-3 *ETS *HK steel and aluminum G.I. mags *Okay aluminum G.I. mags with yellow Magpul anti-tilt followers and high quality springs *ProMag RM-30 Roller Mag- theyre excellent believe it or not. The RM-30 is the ONLY ProMag i recommend Training/Target shooting ONLY: *Troy battlemags - theyre good mags but the base plate design SUX! NEVER dissassemble! *Magpul D60 drum- Not reliable. Mag Couplers- *Magpul *SafariLand
Lancer L5 awm, Okay Industries Surefeed e2 & Magpul PMags for me. Back when I started shooting every USGI magazine I scrounged up had the old crappy black GI follower. When we found the slightly less crappy green followers we snatched them up like a winning lotto ticket! Now good reliable mags are everywhere.
I’ve had issues with the Lancers. They don’t cycle with 300 blk either. I’m liking the new DD mags, been 100% reliable. Also had great luck with the Surefeeds. They’re ending production on them though.
Magpul G2 Windowed is my favorite. I also replaced all aluminum magazine followers with Magpul and they work great. It’s a must and superior to the military’s tan followers.
Man I took advantage of a sale and bought a bunch of Okay mags but they won’t fall from mag release. I assume my lower must be out of spec but I don’t have that issue with any others. Oh well they just need a tug ;)
@@literallynobody1515 weapon outfitters had a sale on them a few weeks ago. Figured I’d take advantage on the surefeeds since okay is stopping production on them
Lancer zero issues. I have absolutely no clue as to why they are " finicky, won't work right, I hate them ect". They do not sponsor me but me and my shooting crew uses them. I can't even think of an issue. Pmags I have video on thier Glock stick mags, horrendous. I even called the company and talked to a engineer. They sent me out 3 more 27rd Glock stick mags. Still problems- using them in different handguns and AR9's. Mabey it's the area you live in and the weather conditions?. Looks like a large amount of PNW shooters here. I'm in middle Tennessee. We don't have the rain and dampness like the PNW does.
@@tangomantactical Glock mags are a different story. Always go OEM there for serious use. For AR mags though I haven’t had an issue. With lancers I’ve had a significant amount of double feeds, a few durability issues where they’ve cracked or the feed lips have bent. And also if you drop them while they are full they are almost guaranteed to spit ammo. Should you be dropping your full mags? Obviously not, but it can happen and having them spit half or all your ammo onto the ground is a massive pain in the ass. I haven’t had that issue with Surefeeds and Pmags. Also for what it matters I’ve lived in Colorado and Indiana so either dry or humid and have had issues with lancers in both locations. I have some so I use them for range mags, but never keep any in my serious kit. This is on two different rifles, both have Aero upper receivers and thats about their only commonality.
@@curgunner All your issues with Lancer mags......that's you brother. I've been running them for 2yrs now and about 8K rounds later, flawless. My talents are my sponsor. I don't make 75K a year either. I Cerakote on the side. I gunsmith. I build high level AR's. 21 to date in the last 3yrs......thats my sponsor my talent and my hands. If you got a chub for Pmags I'm not hat'n. There AR mags are ok. There Glock mags are horrific, if your shredding yo trigger. Shot safe brother!
D&H, C Products, DSG, Brownells, and Okay/Surefeed have all done well for me for a long time. For polymer, P Mags of course and Hex mags. I have a Hex mag that was loaded for over 5 years....no rounds pop out if you drop it and it worked like a champ during my last shooting session. I got some e Landers last week and will be trying them out. Seems to have a magpul follower or a good copy of it. I have some Troy mags still loaded from 2016..and the rounds re still tight with no pop outs. I had 2 MFT mags, gen1 that the lips failed after being loaded for less than 2 years....pop outs.
Okay Industries will cease manufacturing Surefeed magazines at the end of 2022. They also make medical supplies, and they will be concentrating on those. 40+ years of making some of the most reliable AR15 magazines that have ever been made. Okay Industries is looking for a company to buy their magazine manufacturing equipment. Hopefully another company will buy them. If not, this 40+ year tradition will be coming to an end.
After the recent Bruen Decision, it won't matter what kind of mag, as long as it carries more than 10 rounds, CA gonna suck'em up so hard, Kamala will take notes.
Okay mag base plates seem to bend easy resulting in cutting my palm when banging one into the gun on a closed bolt. It could also be my delicate baby hands.
My gen 2 windowed pmag has been max loaded for going on 5 years. I am beginning to notice that it is bulging just slightly and is a slight bit tougher to get into the mag well. It will still go in with a little extra force, but it is bulged nonetheless. Feed lips are still holding well also.
Just gonna share some terribly unreliable mags: ETS Group. Just garbage. And Magpul PMAG, not exactly unreliable, but I’ve had many that like to just get stuck in my magwell. Not an issue for a loaded mag. But empty mags don’t always drop out free. Big issue? No. I just prefer CProducts mags. They’re like $10-11/piece and they’re sexy and they’re reliable.
Why do we have to watch video of you playing big time operator? No reason to try and impress anyone. GI mags and Lancer have proved themselves to me and magpul have let me down a number of times so I wouldn't have them in my load out. I do agree about inspecting your mags and make sure they are good to go.
I'm not a huge Hex Mag guy but zero issues for me. 300-500rds a month ( my wallet is my ammo sponsor) Run threw 5 different. 223's I have. Actually Lancer is the mag I would choose over any on this planet. Pmags are good but way overrated.
Lancer are my go to mags and I still have a metric ton of Magpul I have used since Gen 1’s. Lancer L5AWM are my go to these days. I keep an eye out for sales and by them in bulk. I probably have used every magazine known to man popular to the AR platform but at the end of the day, its a disposable and always were meant to be in my professional opinion. They wear. They bend. They get crushed. (Especially older aluminum style)
I can't get past the plate carrier and lesson on double ear-pro...😂 A proper gun shop can sort out a new shooter without a problem or local range with firearms for sale.
So it's not just me then? My Lancers barf rounds when inserted on a closed bolt without fail. Even with only a few rounds them I'm getting 2 or 3 as soon as the bolt moves. Luckily I only have 2 color matched for a goofy theme build and 3 just for SOCOM. Hex mag for my .308 work better than most and I've not had issues with ETS. Rifle mags I should say, their pistol mags suck and have fat base plates that make a magwell a no go. Pure jam-o-matic. ETS rifle has a longer follower than most tupperware pill boxes. Helpful on a lower with a bit of a sloppy bolt catch that misses other plastic mag followers, a few thousandths of wobble is all it takes. I actually mostly use ASC stainless and like them. Easier in and out of anything, rifle or carrier/pouches. I have a few gen 2 Magpul but they have Endo mag inserts for my PCC, but I do like them. I've actually been enjoying KCI a lot as of late, both pistol and rifle mags. Pro mag price and they don't suck. 😜 Edit: To add more to volume 1: ETS rifle issues I'd heard of were bulging/feed lips opening if left loaded for long periods, but any plastic mag can do that. If I'm storing full for any length of time or in high heat it's steel only. I'm no expert by any means, this is just what works for me. To each theirs. 👍
Great video, thank you for taking the time to make it. My first choice is Duramag SS with chrome molly springs and Aluminum with SS springs, then Magpul M3 and Lancers.
I have a couple but not enough rounds thru them to make a call....but no failures after a few hundred and loaded for 2 years. Yeah, I label my loaded mags just because.
You drive that rifle really well!! Your reloads are just glass. Any tips for a beginner? Besides the cargo shorts that I'm definitely going out to get a pair of!
Practice it. Develop some context. Go slow. Each movement slowly. As it becomes familiar, go ahead and speed up a little. Then watch some videos on mag changes. Make some changes as needed. Practice the new method(s). Watch videos on mag changes. Make changes as necessary. Practice the new method(s). Repeat.
I avoid gen 2 p mags like the plague and the 3s are just average. Carbon hexmag, lancer, and ETS are far better IMO, especially since the gunmagwarehouse ETS exclusive is 7.50, holds 31 and seats easily on a closed bolt with a gentle push. Honorable mention to Thril pmx, may become my new favorite if it keeps performing the way it does.
7:45 he looks and watches the round chambered but then thinks I should do a press check for no reason. Difference between checking the chamber of a gun before you go out As opposed to checking everytime you chamber a round when at the range .
Magpul dose not stand behind their products and will not issue a replacement, refund, or even a partial creadit for manafactures defects on items that they sell. If it is defective you are stuck with it. Go with anything other than Magpul!!!
Magpul makes the among the best furniture and magazines on the market even vetted by the military and sold in BX's for a reason. Your personal anecdote against magpuls decades of product development and vetting does not hold up.
