These Beauty Brands are in HUGE Trouble! | BEAUTIFUL and BOTHERED | Ep. 54 

You both have me excited for a 90s Mac collection that doesn’t even exist !! 🖤

Estée Lauder owns NARS, MAC, Smashbox, The Ordinary, Bobbie Brown, Clinique, Too Faced, etc & bought them all up because of the success & uniqueness of their products but is now destroying the individuality of them all. That’s really the issue.

MAC has so much nostalgia. I can remember being a child and watching my grandma go to her bowl of lipsticks and pick out a Mac bullet usually in a deep purple color. And when I was 13, for my birthday I got to get my makeup done for the first time at a mac counter. And I got to pick out my own single eyeshadow. Ugh memories.

As someone who was a twilight fan, I think colorpop was trying to capitalize on a twilight renaissance that was happening last year but the trend passed before they could get the product out.

The way I've been watching them straight for a year without missing a episode is a example how good these two are

Nobody asked me, but I’ve been wearing glasses most of my life. Frames 2 + 4 looked so great. Get both, I‘d say. As always, thank you for brightening my day

For the Oscars: Johnny and Kevin dish on makeup, HauteLeMode on fashion and Brad Mondo on hair! Dream Team❤

Clinique was the 80’s high schooler skin care from a department store. It was not the heavy make up of our mothers but lighter (colored water) weight “foundation”. It was “the” upscale department store line that addressed breakouts and oil control for teens. Everyone had their three step face cleanser regimen. None of it worked for those of that had oily skin.

I think Johnny needs to be the creative director at MAC! You have the best ideas.

I REALLY hope the Beauty Industry is listening to you both !!

For Johnny's glasses: #2 & #4 are the best. #5 = "Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night"

I haven’t been able to stop saying “we’re having weather” because of you two

I'm 31 F. Before I was allowed to wear makeup when I was younger, my mom took me to the Clinique counter for the 3-step system! You're spot on 😂

I remember being afraid to go up to the MAC counter at MACY’s because I assumed I wasn’t “cool” enough. 🤣

This is quickly becoming my favorite podcast on RU-vid. Would love too see the opposite version of this video. What brands do you guys think are in their “renaissance era” or are “only going up”.

I hope we can get a part 3 that touches on the fall of certain brands or previous flop eras that have happened before rather than just the ones that are happening right now. It would be interesting to see if there is a pattern or warning signs that indicate things are about to fall apart for a brand

❤ We need a mental health & self care episode ❤ (if you feel confortable with it!) 'Cause we all are kinda having weather 😅 aren't we? 😂

Not me sitting at work, which is dead, rolling silverware, just blaring this across the dinning room 😂

Church is in people. This week's podcast will be paired with a cheeky red from Aldi.

As a 50 year old makeup loving woman who loved MAC throughout the 90s, you're geniuses! If MAC doesn't follow this and hire you two as a creative team, they really are just being lazy. On that same note, the nostalgia! I remember shopping with my cousin and buying the newest MAC color stories in the 90s.

The Clinique heyday was in the 70's and 80's and was skincare because it was numbered for different issues. It was basically the first targeted issue product.

Option 2! I think Option 4 looked a bit too nerdy 1960s, but Option 2 makes you look sophisticated and smart, but also still approachable and just with it, like you totally have your shit together.

Yes! Clinique was the only affordable non drugstore product for me in high school.

Kevin looks extra STUNNING 🤩 TODAY! I’m obsessed 😍 My Sunday just got better , listening/ watching while I clean my place 😊

Wet &Wild.."one collab away from being on a registry"..Haha.. so true. The Chester the Molester collab or Gary the groomer skin care..so awful. Great vid. Thanks B&B 😊

I wasn't a makeup person until the pandemic but I loved MAC and would try on the lipsticks (they were 10 dollars CAD back then). I was so excited with the original Viva Glam with RuPaul!

I am a beauty advisor and I absolutely love getting ready for work and watching your videos while I do so thank you for the great content

I'm so shocked you didn't like the clicky concealer/foundation pen from MAC! Every time I wear it I get compliments on my skin because it looks so flawless. Also, I wish Nars would lower their prices. I would buy so much more if they weren't ridiculously expensive.

Listen, my mom and I in the mid-90s... Clinique was one of the VERY few mid price ranges that had foundation shades deep enough for us. Also, I still have " The 3 Step" set in my makeup room lol. As relics lol Another great esp!!❤❤

Omg kevin obsessed with this hair

Loving your Clinique stories. That was the brand I started with... my first skin care, my first foundation, etc. I was still using their foundation until two years ago when it just started looking terrible on me, but I still like their lipstick and a couple of their fragrances. Unfortunately, they'd created a skin cream that I loved, but they discontinued it the very next year. I was like, What? Since then I've been reluctant to use any of their products because they would just create and discontinue, telling me to purchase a more expensive replacement item instead. I may have to try out a couple of those new lipsticks though.

I think its also hard for those brands to stay afloat bc not only is good affordable makeup available everywhere but now more than ever you can get makeup and skincare from all over the world

At this point they've spent 1 hours just talking about Clinique Black Honey Almost Lipstick. Keep up the good work

Y'all hit this one with perfection! The Emily needs and Emily wants pallet were the last thing I ever bought from revolution. Her pallets were great. But revolution just sucks now. They're in some financial trouble with the brand owners now.

ITS SUNDAAAAY!🎉 BEST part of my week! As a newly single mother, I love to watch you two as my daugther is sleeping and I have a "me time" and relax ❤

Let’s sign a petition for your idea with oldschool Mac 90s Makeup! Supermodel x Erin Parsons x Kevyn Aucoin Collection. I’d buy everything in a Heartbeat ❤️‍🔥

I work every Sunday at Ulta and it makes me so happy when I take my break and you’ve dropped a vid!! Y’all make my day so happy!!!

I was so excited to see this is part two of brands in their flop era! Part one was iconic and I can tell just based on this intro that this will episode will be just as iconic!

one of the few things that gets me through the week is knowing on sunday I can listen to this amazing podcast!!

I have to say both your channels are 2 of the best I watch there is no bull your cut throat about products that's what the beauty community needs love you both never change xx

Johnny-definitely the second pair of glasses Kevin-I’m with you: keep the politics out of awards shows Love you both ❤❤

Not Kevin unpacking his clinique trauma like it's therapy lol

Totally agree with Kevin's assessment on the frames. #2 was my fave on you. Thank you for another great episode! I want to have cocktails with you two so much. ❤

Girl, I was waiting for Clinique and MAC in the last episode😭 I love these two♥️ only 2 people I trust in makeup

I was obsessed with Mac, then they did a collection with Kelly Osbourne and I was shocked, it suddenly ruined the brand for me. Then they discontinue staples i've relied on since the 90's. DONE WITH THEM.

Hahaha I was with y'all about Colourpop until you said we don't need another star wars collab! I'm always down for star wars makeup collabs. I will say, I do love their super shock cheek products, their ceme gel liners, and their super shock shadows. I honestly think Colourpop could do amazing things if they slowed down with their releases. I'm not sure if I feel clinique is in their flop Era because they still produce really nice products and they're still big with the older Beauty community. Also, definitely glasses frame number 2 was what looked best on you and your face shape.

My absolute favorite time of a Sunday!

Preach it, Kevin! I'm so sick of politics infusing absolutely everything. Just entertain us with what the show is actually supposed to be about. You are 100% SPOT ON!!!

I'm loving your shirt colors today, gents! Johnny's green and Kevin's pink are perfection. Kevin, you nailed your critique of Johnny's frame selection. I hope he can get the top two.

OK but to be fair, there has been a Twilight Renaissance happening lately online in places like tumblr, so a Colourpop Twilight collection is surprisingly timely, and last I checked, it sold out instantly

I'm 53 and still miss makeup from the 80's, 90's and early 2000's. I started playing with makeup in the 70's when I would play with my mom's and grandmother's makeup. I remember cake mascara that came solid in a pan and you would wet it and apply it with a mini brush that had bristles like a hairbrush. To use black eyeliner in the waterline you had to melt it so matches were always a part of a makeup kit. Max Factor, Coty, Ultima II and Borghese were some of my favorites and they made awesome products. In the 2000's I started using Bare Minerals, Tarte, Smashbox, Laura Geller, Bobbi Brown, Too Faced and Mally. They all had great innovative products. When Maureen sold Tarte I noticed the change in products right away and stopped liking the brand. When Leslie gave up control of Bare Minerals the change in product offerings was drastic and it got boring. Then Smashbox, Too Faced and Bobbi Brown stopped making my favorite products. Laura Geller got repetitive. even my favorite shower gels stopped being made when Christina sold Philosophy. Big companies don't care about the brand the way the founders do and the brand's DNA gets destroyed. I hate the current makeup scene. I have always been such a makeup junkie and it saddens me that everyone is doing the same thing. I want amazing quality and colors I can get excited about. It is so rare nowadays to be wowed by a cosmetic product. I want to see change!

I need someone to compile a list of johnny and kevins shopping reccomendations for their favorites for every single category that us loyal followers can reference when shopping! I would LOVE that!

The only product I ever liked from Clinique was the lip exfoliator. It was amazing for getting rid of dry, cracked lips. Their lipsticks were like crayons, lol. That was back in the 80s. I hope the new ones are better

Well you both have another fan in me!! If you see an increase in your views, it's all me, all of it, yup. I have being watching all your episodes in less than a week!! Where was I this past year?? You both are so genuine, honest, funny as hell, with these wonderous minds and illuminating souls! From the bottom of the heart of this young fifty y/o girl THANK YOU! Love from Toronto Canada ❤️ 🇨🇦

I would LOSE MY MIND if M•A•C brought back their OG shiz!

"I roll up my windows, it's a bad neighborhood!" Oh my God I died!!!

Wet n Wild is one collection away from going on a registry 🤣🤣🤣. Good one!

For me, Clinique was my first non-drugstore makeup and skincare. It felt like it was for “young” people, the other brands were for rich older ladies. I loved the Happy perfume. And I was tickled pink when I got that free gift with purchase! Before Clinique my skincare was St Ives apricot scrub before bathing, Noxema in the shower, and then Seabreeze afterwards . My poor skin!

No deference to Erin Parsons who is AMAZING- but the original MAC lipstick packaging was a black metal bullet w/an embossed silver band in the center that said MAC. I worked at Henri Bendel in the 90’s when it was the only retail outlet where you could buy MAC. The silver packaging was later. I remember when they launched the shades “Twiggy” & “Verushka” and then had to change “Twiggy” to “Twig” because she sued them. Twig has been my ride or die for 30 years & can report it’s not the same. Just like Spice it’s not as cool-toned anymore. Velvet Teddy is more what Twig used to be. Also… Verushka was the most stunning deep purple-red & they discontinued it ages ago and I’ve been searching for a dupe forever.

At this point I am BEGGING for a makeup line from you two , we all know it will be the best in the game

Always so happy to see you two on Sunday❤ We're definitely having weather in the midwest 😂

I'm in wales uk and it feels like we're in the middle of a storm Gail force wind the rain is so heavy you can't see through it your video is what I need today always makes me happy your banter is brilliant xx

15:42 same reaction to Kevin's "they rode that orgasm train to the bank and back" LMAO! Subtle comedy gold right there

You know it's bad when the only time you see a Smashbox display is at the Estee Lauder warehouse sale. Also, what ever happened to Lorac?

There should be a 1 minute clip of Johnny telling "I know" to Kevin 😂😂

For the glasses I hope you stick with #2 AND #4, then you can switch styles when you want! Lots of love from Mexico! 💚🤍❤️

Your use of pictures is so informative helpful and fierce. No one does it like you guys, love your passion knowledge and foresight!

Girl, you couldn’t be more spot on about bringing back the make up that made Mac popular! They could literally remake the George Michael video, with Mac products!!!All right girls, go call Mac right now!

yesss! I forgot yesterday that it was Saturday and hyped myself up for a new episode and I was SO MAD at myself! this is truly one of the things that makes the weekend great for me :)

Everytime I hear "we're having weather" I just visualize Katya in her outfit and Trixie telling her she looked like a potholder. Lol I also think "white satin chemise with very hard,hard nipples." 😂

You two make this young 56yr old laugh and educate me on what’s up with makeup!!! You two are awesome

Kevin! This foundation is gorgina on the color match! I'm dying to know more about these 2 foundations, y'all look gorgeous!

Ugh I’m still waiting for Colourpop to bring back their core products!!! Justice for Figgy Wit It Lux gloss

I feel sp much better that I am not the only one who's favorite things constantly get discontinued 😭😭😭

I switched hairdressers not long ago, and she asked if I'd ever gone for a full brown lip. I remember the MAC and UD lips I pooh-poohed years ago in my brighr reds only era, and I *yearn* for those 90's browns back!

Kevin with the glasses review just killed me, so supportive and hilarious

I still have my smashbox lipstick from my wedding 8 years ago in a memory box. I would repurchase every year if the shade still existed 😢

Had fun with this episode... Lots of nostalgia. Teal mascara with matching eyeliner. Smashbox eye kits... And Color Pop over saturated themselves.... With something new every three weeks.

With the Estée Lauder subsidiaries in makeup; it seems to me & by all means please correct me if I’m wrong; are they buying up all these small makeup companies to slowly & painfully destroy them? 28:44 50:38 The discussion of poorly made clothing really hit a nerve with me. The lack of quality clothes hurts me deeply. I’m going to pull out my 32 year old Pfaff sewing machine & make my clothes again! Sadly, the patterns are outrageously expensive & the fabrics are so thin, scratchy. I’m so very unhappy! 1:03:58 How far do y’all want to go back, guys? My late mother used Charles of the Ritz.

You nailed the commentary on Twilight. As a late 30s mom of two, I'm not showing up to the next PTA meeting with blood red vampire lip gloss from a movie I liked in college.

I can listen to Kevin and Johnny talk all day and night. I can never get tired of their voices 😊

#2 for sure!! Also, I have a pair of those “dirty” glasses…they suit my warm undertone more than the typical clear cool plastic…but I love that new name for them…I love my dirty glasses🤣🥰

the laugh/screech/guffaw/riff/solo moment at 24:25 has me crying. I thought a bird flew into my window (with love! You would be a gorgeous bird with a beautiful song!!!!!)

Eye glasses: Number four first choice, number 2 second choice. Old school 90s Mac? Yes! Linda, Naomi, Christy and Cindy again would be awesome.

As a mid-30's millennial who's a cosplayer and avid merch buyer who also loves loves loves makeup, those kinds of collabs Colourpop comes out with are supposed to be aimed at people like me, but the problem is that the packaging and color choices they make are so uninspired that it's disappointing. Like, Sailor Moon, everyone's color-coded for you already (and most characters in franchises have image colors too), how could they fail so hard? Meanwhile, Japan's had some makeup merch where the powder comes in packaging that looks like Super Sailor Moon's Holy Grail! My sister bought me an eyeliner that had a cap that resembled Chibi Moon's little pink scepter. I wanted the lipsticks that looked like the Outer Senshi's transformation sticks so bad! If they put care into these collabs, and if they spaced their releases out more, Colourpop wouldn't flop so much.

I just feel like if I had you two in my store working with me to gossip with, life would be much better! Glad I get to come home to it to hear everything that’s annoying me validated! 😄🥰

I was with MAC at the beginning (before they were even in the US) and I agree. They have discontinued every color and formula that I loved. Yes brands should evolve but they lost so much of what made MAC great. I had so many OG shades, formulas, and packaging but I finally had to get rid of a lot because they were decades old. Sad😢

I just wanted to let you both know that a big reason of why Nars is discontinuing things left, and right is because they were bought by Sheisedo. As soon as I opened my Kohl’s Sephora stores, we had to take the OG Nars products off the shelf and send them back to Estée Lauder. I was nervous, because I remember when they took over bare minerals the products really went downhill. The shade range has slightly changed as well. It’s not as reliable anymore.

That twilight collection sold out in under 5 mins 😂I really enjoy the pretty foundation and the super shock cheeks are so good. I’m surprised y’all didn’t mention the Sims collection from Mac!

I love it when Kevin calls something disgusting!! 😊❤

Love you both ! Thanks for all your helpful hints and advice. You’ve saved me hundreds of dollars

You two keep me company as I work a job where I don't feel like I belong at times. Your humor and great chemistry are so refreshing and help me get throught the day! Thank you!

as someone whose always changed my Rx frames w| my outfits, this segment excited meeeee! 😍🤩 in this order: 2, 4, 1, 5, 3. also, Kevin is right about #3 being a great shape, not great color.

I know this comment is coming in late, but I’ve been watching your old podcasts over again and over again because I always hear something useful and I want to remember what it was (I have serious ADHD coupled with the fact I’m a GenXer, so I have some age and herbally induced issues with my memory). All that’s to say that I would REALLY love to see an episode of your podcast or a longer video on this channel where you both discuss makeup application tools. I’d like to know more about brushes, both natural and synthetic. And your favorite ones in each of the categories. I’ve spent a small fortune on Sonia G and other Fudes, but I’m so afraid that I might mess them up that I barely even use them. I have also spent lots of money on synthetic brushes from It Cosmetics and BK Beauty and MUFE. I get a lot of use out of them and mostly go through them until I’m forced to wash them. I’m also scared about using the same brush cleanser for the natural brushes. As you can probably tell, I’m a person with a lot of questions and I am asking you both because I gotta stop listening to Michelle Wang! 😂🥴

I’m 41 years old and I graduated beauty school but never went any where with cosmetology for a career. Now I am a professional interior painter I work everyday and come home feeling like I wish I could have done something like you guys. I love keeping up with your Channel keep up the good work you guys make me laugh so much ❤😊😊😅😂

I recently fell in love with NARS bronzers lol. I’ve been a big fan of their lip products in the past, but it was because they offered more than warm nudes and reds. I have their hot pink lipstick that Kevin was taking about, and omg. I’m so glad I got it before it right before it got pulled. It’s so wonderful! Now, I don’t really look to them. I forgot how many incredible products they used to have! I wanted almost their whole line over the years! Thanks for reminding us of how great they once were!

Hi, I just wanted to say that you two incredible people have given the beauty community and what we have desperately been looking for. All that toxicity and evilness of the last few years was draining. Thank you for exactly what you're doing. It's a welcome blast of fresh air 🎉.

I just want you to know how much I appreciate your podcast. I don’t wear makeup. I want to start but I’m in no rush. But I’m going through a really hard time right now & you have been giving me an escape I really need. Thank you. I’d love to see an episode on the best drugstore makeup for mature skin. Love you guys.

Yay❤❤ my favorite part of the week!! Love you both😊🥰❤️

Dying at the Clinique ghosts… 😂