These fan-favorite Yu-Gi-Oh decks... are MISERABLE TO PLAY AGAINST! 

Watching the 400th game of DM on masterduel has permanently rotted my brain and I don’t think I can recover

Crystal Beast really do be ending on nothing and somehow winning

I can feel the part about Gem-knights. I kinda liked playing the deck (in solo mode) when MD came out, found more interesting decks and tried them again for this recent event with a gem-knight loaner including their new support...yeah cool, I can combo off for 2 hours and the result is either an ftk or pass on a bunch of big beaters. Other than that, I have this irrational hate towards Dark Magicians. Either they floodgate you to death, slowly banishing your whole life one card per turn or they whip out one of their dozens of weirdly specific "if you control DM, blow up the whole board" cards. Always feels cheap losing to them. But at least it's pretty satisfying to pop their Eternal Soul.

Even when I spoke to Matt Bell when I was judging a YCS, he mentioned that a big problem with Pendulum is that they’re all one big archetype and every new card supports it.

To be fair, it's physically impossible to play Toons and not unconsciously slip into a Pegasus impression.

The Red Eyes randomness is on point though. Joey never had a strategy. He just crammed things into his deck and hoped it worked out. Same with the support.

Let me be clear.. I only bought legendary duelists because Konami doesn’t make Seaserpent archetypes. I’ve never played with the cards from the set,and I never will. Now I must return to the ocean depths to return my father from a tidal wave.

Lmfao I was playing mtg arena while watching this the ending killed me

0:08 NICE! Dragon Ball reference!

I started running a Kaiju on fucking Duel Links because I kept running into timelords because of the recent event and I just needed more ways to remove them lmao

A Madolche hater? You can't fool me, TheActMan, I know it's you in disguise!

The dark magician one is perfectly on point.

You came for my friend Jake's favorite deck (Six Samurai), then my friend J's favorite deck (Madolche), then for my original tournament deck (Gren Maju). What bowl of cereal did my playgroup piss into?

Yu-Gi-Oh really is just one big game of players hating other decks for trying to not let them play the game while simultaneously playing a deck that tries to do the exact same thing. Negates, floodgates, OTK's. It's all the same goal. Hopefully you play and your opponent does not. And I love that lol

Dire’s title editing is always excellent.

I think a harder question to ask is what's a deck that's actually FUN to play against? It seems like the goal of any remotely viable deck in this game is to make the opponent as miserable as possible.

ah yes, the most yugiboomer archetypes: madolche and pendulum

I don't want to defend Kairyu too much. But to give it credit, the entire gimmick of the deck at least matches up with how it was played in the anime. So its floodgate isn't out of left field like literally all the in archetype boss monsters that are just skill drain, please explain to me why Rexterm skill drains.

Toons is one of those archetypes that should be getting a constant wave of new cards simply due to their lore i.e turning other duelist's monsters into toon versions. Yet Konami decided to limit them to DM monsters aside from just Ancient Gear Golem and Cyber Dragon from GX. They still don't even have a single extra deck monster. We should have a Toon version of every main and rival anime character's ace card (Stardust Toon Dragon, Red Toon Dragon Archfiend, Number 39: Toon Utopia, Galaxy-Eyes Toon Dragon, etc.).

If anyone cares and doesn't already know, Hexproof is specifically targeting protection _from your opponent_ , you can still target a hexproof creature with your own cards/ effects; Hex is a term referring to a spell that's typically in some way harmful, which most spells your opponent would try to cast on your monsters likely are. Therefore a monster that resists being targeted by your opponents spells/ "hexes" would be "Hexproof". targeted

Kairyu works the way he does as an homage to Duelist Kingdom. He is flooding the opponent’s board so there is only one place for s non-water to stand.

I love how every kind of these Videos skips mentions of Cyberdragons. A Deck that looks cool but cant do shit outside of its OTK Variants that are Mediocre at best. Yet at every local i have seen at least 5 players that promise this time they found a way to break the Code and will win for sure (Spoiler: they never did and never will). Usually the Cyber Dragon combos are quick to play but these players slow down considerably depending on Board State and going second staples they Drew.

2:25 Just wanted to say that in Master Duel, Six Sams are both miserable to play against, and to play in the first place. I swear it constantly feels like I’m going to run out of time half the time because Gateway’s effect just takes that long to resolve.

Madolche is one of the old decks that more or less kept its identity though, think everything its gotten has more or less kept the soul of the deck alive without going into floodgate territory. Cards like Teacher, salon and promenade feel right at home with the old cards.

I don't need to take Ancient Gear hate from the ygo youtube community's version of the Nostalgia Critic

People getting mad at OTK decks like every single modern deck can't create a lethal endboard through an interruption will always be funny. When it's Accesscode or a Borrel dragon it's fine, but my in-archetype heavy hitters are Satan himself printed on cardstock.

I am again convinced none of y'all actually enjoy Yu Gi Oh when you aren't winning.

In the Legend Anthology Festival Event I played against a toon deck that was mostly battle traps it would have been the most frustrating game ever if I wasn't playing War rock. It was the only game in the event I won with War rocks.

I have a based Gren Maju list. It's a 60 card grass skull servant chaos lightsworn pile that plays Gren as a back up plan to supplement the banishing you already do

To sum it up: Every deck that someone at some point lost against

Almost surprised no one mentioned Ojamas. I mean, they probably aren't anyone's favorite... except mine! But seriously, as much as I love Ojamas, why did they have to mesh Armed Dragons and all of the Light-Machine Union monsters together? I understand Chazz also used these cards but Atem also used the Magnet Warriors, and they didn't try to make them synergize with DM. They just became their own archetype.

Come on now... Ancient Gear hate. They're so harmless. Until they get support that lets them turbo out Chaos Giant then maybe I would understand.

Dire is the GOAT. She can pull a video from nothing and post it in less than 24 hours

One day YuGiOh players will learn that Mill came from Magic, and that they do have the ability to understand other card game terms, but choose not to.

What do you MEAN literally EVERY deck is like this now a days. Thats just how yugioh functions lmao

I don't mind Madolche. It kept its identity instead of losing it over time like other decks did and it's still fun to play and play against. If there's a fan favorite deck that I hate it's modern Synchron. Sad thing is its that a lot of the strategies these fan favorite decks employ are the same type of strategies that a lot of modern decks use. It's either a floodgate board or a negate board.

Saying YGO players are immune to understanding a second card game implies they even understand YGO to begin with, but we all know they can’t read

True Draco. Worst thing I've ever played against, and I played against it a lot. The deck does absolutely nothing even remotely fun for anyone that doesn't enjoy watching their opponent seethe with rage. Infinite respect to the one guy at my locals that played it, he's an expert player and great guy, but truly he was the one that taught me you can hate a deck without hating the person playing it. Also inherent summons are literally the dumbest concept in Yugioh outside of things that don't say target not targeting

I wish ancient gears got support that made their turn one not just sit on pseudo towers or set up howitzer for turn 3 resource gain. But I'd still rathet play againat them than anything else in the video.

Best part of the video was the Hexproof rant But to bolster MBT's point, basically all the French Vanilla keywords are easy to infer. What is first strike? Well they strike first. Trample? Well the trample over weak stuff. Indestructible? You get the idea.

“I don’t like that you play floodgates” well I don’t like that you’re playing in my turn and that I blinked and now half your deck is on the field

"Wait, YuGiOh has been this mess of floodgates, negates and needlessly long combos since day 1?" "Always has been."

I've long been trying to figure out a deck that can use penguins in ways where other card/archetypes couldn't just replace the penguins and make the deck better. With the announcement of the crimson dragon I finally found a powerful combo... The problem is it just makes king calamity on the opponents turn and would make me feel bad if I ever actually play it...

Welcome to the Yu-Gi-Oh community, where whatever deck you use, whatever way you act, you're Hated for it unless you're needlessly the perfect human being who just so happens to be good and based at the game. So basically a Buff super Saiyan GigaChad. Smells like Tide detergent. Uses Kashtira, and Has Butler levels of Manners/behavior. Oh, and make sure you're rich.

MBT tries to clown on oldschool cards 2:07 no it's actually just some mbt fan who can't read, attacking into DM dragon knight under piercing the darkness multiple times. 🤣 I can tell, it's literally me.

You tell me what the fuck a creature with "Menace" is gonna do. I love how MBT is seemingly the only Yugioh Player who has ever played another card game.

The thing I hate with support for legacy archetypes like Dm, Red-Eyes, and Blue-Eyes is that they will give them support that feels like they are actually trying to modernize them and their strategies like giving Red-Eyes and Dm xyz monsters and Blue-Eyes synchro's and tuners and they just stopped doing anything else with that and just give them cards that promotes their more boring strategies like burn or to just sit on a big bungus that's doing nothing and somehow dies to your own cards.

To be fair for red eyes if you let them summon archfiend twice you were kinda asking for it

I'm that guy that brings Umi control to locals.

What about a video about decks you DO enjoy playing against?

Me loving Heraldic Beasts (was the first deck I got in paper that wasn't insanely budget and got me to pick up all the rank 4 toolbox staples at the time) but realizing that it's currently just "crooked cook with astral kuriboh under it turbo" the deck. In my defense however it's a graveyard strategy which haven't had the most fun time lately in paper or currently in MD

Funny that someone mentioned Timelords because they are decently popular in Duel Links right now.

Performapals have three main themes: 1) Attack modification with smile world and big boosts and battle tricks; 2) pendulum summon turbo, meant to be pendulum summon toolbox in MR3, taking the extra deck as a backstage; 3) Making Odd-Eyes and Magicians work/summoning the Z-Arc dragons turbo. I personally prefer the attack modification side of them, it is very possible to make a 100 attack monster turn into one with 6900 attack over the course of two turns, around 4000 in one or turning Blue eyes into Celtic Guardian. That was the best fun I had in Duel Links. The number of permanent boosts they have simply asks me to break it.

TBF, Gren Maju started seeing success when Dim Fiss and Macro were at 1 and before Shifter even Existed. MBT even has a really great list on the Golden Castle of Stromberg variant, which is easily my favorite build of the deck because it just focusses entirely on getting those cards banished ASAP

I play a synchron deck shamelessly ripped from itachiygo on youtube whose objective is to set up 4 monster negates on board while drawing a fuckton more interruptions with g.g. (go next) hyper librarian so I'd imagine it's quite infuriating to play against

I am so glad Ancient Gears made it to this list. As an Ancient Gear main, I approve of that description. Seriously, stop letting Fortress activate if you have 2 or more negates, you’ll thank me next time you lose the die roll against these mechanical chads.

Uhhh that does remind me of my Krawler deck. My opponents at locals were so annoyed. The first match I won in 5 minutes. 2 duels in 5 mins. But yeah that cards are strong. I flip them with pawns, and activate the effect. If my opponents decides to negate and destroy, banish or whatever I get 2 special summons for free. And if that happens, I have deus ex that just negates an effect when targetted face-down and negates all Monster effects when flipped open. + That subterror field spell just says that they cant be destroyed when face down and gain 1500 atk and def when flipped.

The six sam part was so true normal summon Kageki into kagemusha. Than synchro into shi eh set backrow pass. Man that brings back fond memories.

Recently hit Diamond 1 with Toons in MD. I feel like people were disappointed when they saw my list and realized its just a deck that puts a 3K body on board under TCBOO/Kaiser Colosseum with 1 Omni Negate in the back row. List in comments. But what did you expect? PURE Toons without staples to be competitive? cope

Looking at that last minute or so, and the latest Magical Hats, I'm wondering if we might see a return to Mono-Blue-Tron in the future, as opposed to the current Marincess-Blue-Tang.

Ancient Gears have been my pet deck for years, alongside Cydras. I love OTK decks so much, but that doesn’t mean I don’t understand how irritating it can be to get OTK’ed. Also, you couldn’t pay me enough money to play howitzer+floodgate.

Dark magician not because it’s any good. Because it has so much freaking support that everyone I swear, has a dark magician deck. And yeah, let’s just give them a spell flash trap that prevents them from getting affected by anything, except if you blow up the stupid card, in which case everything else gets blown up Also, appreciate the dragon ball music

The hex proof discourse at the end killed me. 😂

I feel the Umi one. Mako's my favourite character and the Kairyushin effect is on theme for his first duel with Yugi. But a fast track TCBOO and sitting on Sea Stealth is just not engaging, and there are nearly no other ways to play the deck that are effective.

While I can totally understand yugiboomer hate and where it comes from, if one or two cards completely make your deck obsolete, I’d argue that doesn’t make it a good deck? Like, hear me out: most modern archetypes basically boil down to either who goes first, or who draws/pilots better. It’s mostly just like two ships in the night trying to just execute their own combos and not interacting with the other deck until they play into a negate of some sort. That’s not really all that fun to watch (because you spend most of your time watching duels you’re in because of combo lengths). So, if a single skill drain or floodgate somehow destroys your whole deck, literally how is that any different than modern archetypes? You just do what they spend five minutes to do, but in a single card. At least you’re not keeping them hostage while you do it. And it’s not as though all those long combos are the result of skill, it’s usually just “search x and add to hand/summon” and then effects that are “if x, then y” your way to a board of as many Omninegates as you can play. How is that any different than the yugiboomers who at least respect your time and say “I activate soul drain, and chain skill drain”?

I feel like red eyes in duel links was pretty cool. They had a bunch of revives and a fusion with a negate (slash dragon).

As a gren maju player.... I would be lying if I didn't refer to my deck as, "No one else is allowed to have fun, but me."

I mean, I’ve unironically played Timelords, they’re absolutely garbage, and the deck was basically “Mystic Mine Burn without Mystic Mine”. It’s telling when a deck s actually improved by adding Mine.

Yeah but see the problem with calling these "yugi boomers being wrong because old archtypes were miserable to play against" is that nearly if not every example here is of old archtypes being propped up by degenerate new strategies caused by modern cards. "Toons are miserable with Toon Kingdom" new cards. "Dark World is just a coin flip if my opponent has Droll" new cards. "Dark Magician is unfun because of secret village" new cards. "Crystal Beasts are just Babooska pass" new cards. About the only ones that were degenerate when created on this list other than the newer archtypes on this list like Pendulums are Six Samurai and Gren Maju. And even then those were made degenerate with (relatively to their debut) new support.

As a Red-Eyes fan... he's not wrong...

Ugh..... Red-eyes is really bad compare to other 2; Brick-eyes or DM...... If only Konami should've just made a Joey Wheeler deck instead of shoving effects as references that totally distracts Red-eyes to be a functional deck.....

For future reference, Rummage, Loot, and Impulse draw are short-hand used by the Magic community, not keywords. Rummage is from Rummaging Goblin which discards then draws, Loot is from Faithless Looting which draws then discards, and Impulse is from Act on Impulse which exiles(or banishes) cards from the top of your deck that you can play for a limited time (usually until the end of the turn).

But… Eternal Soul doesn’t give targeting protection? What?

Mbt after a cut: This is a good one! Dire in chat: READ THE FUCKING POST WE NEED 8 MINUTES

As soon as tier got to MD, I build it as fast as i could. And my first duel I bricked in way I though it couldnt happen, 5 shufflers on hand and the draw was the 6ht. I lost to a pure blue eyes deck without even summoning a single monster. I'm still scared to this very day.

I've been trying to make kairyu-shin more exciting. Playing umi combo instead of umi control with things like electric jellyfish summoning coelacanth and using magelanicca instead of ALO. Is pure ass, but the most fun version of that deck I've made lol

As someone who also plays MTG, albeit to a lesser degree, I love every time Joseph uses Magic terminology

So many legacy supports end up being floodgates or bricky FTKs because Konami keeps printing them in a way that requires you to run the shitty old card

Nothing like a new Midnight MBT.

Oh, I love those moments when we remember that MBT actually stands for an old mtg modern deck haha

I don't mind Madolche or Timelords too much, but holy cow can DM players get new strategies already. We get it, Dark Magician, Yugi, anime, ooo. I don't recall Yugi playing fifty floodgates and handtraps to make his ace monster even remotely mid, but then again he also cheated a lot.

I once almost won my locals with yosenju timelord

Surprised one of my all time favorites isn't on this list. Look I love PSY-Frames, Psychics are my favorite type and Omega is one of the coolest monsters ever. But I can't deny that all the deck does is bleeding you dry with hand traps and quick synchros untill they win or they fail to get to circuit and lose.

For me it's either Blue eyes or Mayakashi. For blue eyes I just find it really boring since it usually involves them getting out chaos max in my experience and either I have a way to deal with it or I don't and just feel frustrated as I wait for death. For mayakashi its due to me having bone tower mill ptsd and fearing that their deck is the bone tower mill variant the entire time.

I love Galaxy-Eyes, but it REALLY wants to make Prime Photon and OTK. Lots of interesting cards and support, and Cipher Dragon's yoink is hilarious if you force yourself to use it instead of winning the game.

I'd like to see the opposite of this. Fan favourite decks that are actually really fun and skillful but perhaps aren't as well supported as they need to be to be competitive. Galaxy-Eyes is absolutely in this category. It has no native floodgates, skillful combo paths, important decision making, and access to some of the most powerful rank4/8 monsters in the game AND a counter trap that is arguably the most powerful card ever printed. The deck just needs a good starter and a handtrap to search off of Photon Lord and it's Gucci.

I miss when in the gouki mirror we wouldn't even play the game just compare hands and decide who would win

so according to twitter, decks that are unfun to play against are: decks with monster protection decks with geminis in them...? decks with burn effects decks that need to slow the game down to achieve their win condition decks with draw/search power decks with spell and/or trap negation decks with zero quick effects like madolche?? decks that are dedicated OTK strategies (the generic OTK cards that everybody plays in their extra deck are fine though i guess) pendulum decks that splash other pendulum cards as if decks havent been splashing other cards that synergize for the games lifespan or something idk decks that sometimes get rolled by 1 handtrap and sometimes dont protect the castle/towers decks crystal beasts xyz decks frogs what do yugioh players actually like? someone please answer

I always hate playing Dinos the deck boils down to Ultimate Conductor Tyranno turbo like I have to watch a 10 minute combo so you can end on a book of moon and maybe a monster negate.

howitzer control is the plan you smokescreen into playing ag if you're going first, and I've been innovating on it.

That last part 😂😂 I’m surprised people who play Yugioh haven’t dabbled into magic for a year or two. It’s fun, non power crept, and balanced for the most part. I used to go to locals and lose every game, then would win games, then matches, and lastly top. It was fun to see that Magic’s learning curve wasn’t as steep as Yugioh.

Mbt coping about tear because a dm deck beat it lol

Who the fuck calls Red-Eyes Slash a towers? All he has is a negate for targeting effects, thats as much of a towers as the retrained Gate Guardian. Dragoon is our towers, but Slash? Come on.

Elemental Dark Angel has traumatized my ass so many times that now I put a Relin Anima in my Extra Deck just to spook any poor Elemental players that I might encounter.

Someone in the replies says there's something wrong with everyone who plays Galaxy-Eyes ...what's wrong with Galaxy-Eyes... :((

As a DM player, that DM one is 100% accurate

Come one , pend decks are not all the same, like Odd-eyes can do kali yuga turbo....... which isn't fun for the opponent but ehh

I think at this point everyone just pretends anything about MtG is incomprehensible just to piss Joseph off 😂😂

Gren Maju decks running Golden Castle of Stromberg are the only based variants.

The bit about GMDE makes me realize how different YGO and MTG are. YGO's lack of spell cost and degree of attribute miscibility mean that you *can* easily put a bunch of resource-denial pieces into your deck, whereas in MTG it's not as easy to do so. Sure, you *could* do that if you wanted to, but in MPH (my custom format where translated YGO cards are legal), the GMDE deck *is* the based Timmy deck MBT was describing. All I do when playing that deck is exile as many cards as possible and beat face. Fun times, both to play and play against. Was really fun to play it against Neo-Parshath.