These Gibsons Just Tripled In Price!

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@RobertBakerGuitar Год назад

Correction I meant to say 2 piece top one piece body. ALSO Here's the video of us getting the KM 7 Years Ago - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R0Ky3P535T4.html

@youKnowWho3311 Год назад

It's not the physical items going up in value, it's the dollar going down juxtaposed with the demand of older guitars.

@mikaelflodstrom6370 Год назад

👍🏻

@troykelso Год назад

Yeah! WHAT THE HEY, ROB?!! Tryin' to pull a fast one on us...

@rowbags3017 Год назад

I did do a double-take when you said that was a one-piece top...

@michaelragan5799 Год назад

I think I paid under a grand for mine brand new in 79. Man I have never heard the term Clown Burst and much prefer the term Cherry Burst....

@apacheworrier3776 Год назад

Everything has tripled in price the last 2 years. Well, except eggs. They are 5 times more valuable now. I’ll trade some eggs for the Les Paul. Name your price.

@troykelso Год назад

"80 million votes," folks. 🙄

@MarkDaniels2787 Год назад

So true

@apacheworrier3776 Год назад

@@troykelso Don’t worry. Your fellow Americans are not as dumb as you think they are. No one really voted for him. It was Skynet. The machines have started the process of eliminating humans, and their first move was putting democrats in office.

@CD-gk9ix Год назад

@@troykelso lol stop it. Supply and demand.

@dukeplow Год назад

Retards that bring politics into everything can blow me

@timmcdonald9877 Год назад

Robert, your 1979 KM is famous b/c it has been known as the “Robert Baker” guitar for years. I priced them several years ago (after you had used it in several vids) and it has doubled by then. You made the model famous!!

@caseylee12 Год назад

My two oldest guitars are both from '96...A USA Peavey Wolfgang Special, and a USA (they're all USA) Carvin dc135. They are both fantastic and I paid $300 for the Wolfie and $288 for the Carvin. Guitars like the KM are way above my reach, but after growing up in poverty, I'm LOVING the guitars I have, and I feel SUPER lucky to have them!

@PaulSmith-zi3sn Год назад

Good on you, and those are both nice guitars !!!

@drapps4443 Год назад

Those USA Wolfies are something to be proud of!

@hughcameron Год назад

I got a DC135 in '98. A lot of guitars have come and gone since then but I still have the Carvin

@murphmurph2124 Год назад

I've had epiphones used in the 300-400 dollar price range that give the Gibson's a serious run for the money

@Norman-Bates Год назад

A guitar is worth what somebody is willing to pay for it.

@BennettMarks Год назад

When you started talking about your KM a lot more a couple of years ago and that was like the main guitar you used in the old house! I started to fall in love with the KMS and I looked it up and they where still affordable. I think the lowest price I found was like 1700 bucks 1800 bucks. But man 6000 is crazy ! That's wild they went up in price!

@SamVecchio Год назад

Anyone can ask anything they want for these models. Check sold listings. The most expensive one was dead stock and sold just under a year ago for $4999 asking price. Who knows what the final price was. Everyone thinks their guitars are worth way more than they are. Especially Trogly.

@unclestubs8377 Год назад

The prices on Reverb are what people "want" for their guitar not necessarily what it is worth. If everyone lists them for around the same amount then, that's what you'll have to pay to get one, again not what they're worth.

@DorianGreyskull Год назад

Think your videos and Trogly’s have made peeps list them for pretty high prices.. those ones listed for 7-8K have been sitting up there a while now and prob will till they drop the prices down a bit.. all that said… man that tobacco burst with the double cream and binding is just gorgeous.. I’m hoping to score one some day.. I was born in 79’ too so that really makes me want to make it happen

@meyou3013 Год назад

Yeah, ol' Trogly has had a lot to do with driving the prices up on these things. It's great that he documents these old guitars, yes, and it's nice that he gives people the chance to see guitars that they may otherwise never hear of. But come on - these things are not worth that much money. And now you've got the new Phil McKnight/Tone King collab model going for the "accessible" price of $2500... Lots of good old used guitars out there for nowhere near those prices, just waiting for someone to take them home.

@mr.astrophysics9115 Год назад

On some websites the 2021 Epiphone Custom Koa Les Paul is $1,300 and the 2021 Epiphone modern figured Sgs are up to and over $1,000..it's just the way it is and these prices soon will effect everywhere including the big box stores still worth it..

@BlueberryStinkFinger62 Год назад

I have seen them at these prices

@Abbynorml1979 Год назад

2:46 "this is a one piece top" proceeds to show close up of two pieces joined to together

@BIZARBIES Год назад

I came to see if I was crazy for thinking it was 2 pieces! Lol

@drew004jc Год назад

his name is "Lord Trogley"

@themog4911 Год назад

Worth triple the money .. Only if there is an idiot willing to pay that much :)

@Trog Год назад

I currently have a custom plaque Natural in my collection - I've documented Plaque Cherry, but don't own that one anymore. Haven't had plaque tobacco yet. One day I'll have all 3! haha. There are also a handful of ebony KMs out there - I saw one last year

@stipeur Год назад

This beautiful Les Paul KM made me switch my Strats with Les Paul....Never looked back....Thx Robert!

@hawg427 Год назад

Fluff will have a video about the crazy prices. LOL I bought my 1980 LP Custom Black Beauty for 3K from Chicage Music. I've noticed Reverb has some outrageous prices, people are very proud of their gear. LOL

@MrPinkStrat Год назад

GIBSON are the Biggest RIP OFF guitar Company on the Planet Bar NONE .. I would NEVER buy a GIBSON if I had the Money Burning a Hole in my JEANS !

@j.r.g3548 Год назад

Trogly the guitar investor! Dude thinks he runs the market, take EVERYTHING he says with a truckload of salt. Also this video is nonsense, you need to check the SOLD LISTINGS. The last 3 to sell went for $3600, $3625, and $4000. So they haven't even doubled in value. My issue with Austin is he again thinks he has more say in the market than he does. Then people who own them list them for INSANE prices. Seriously do a test yourself. Watch a Trogly video, wait a week or two then search whatever vintage guitar he covered. There is ALWAYS at least a few listings that are asking asinine prices. Then check sold, they are cut in half.

@bobcampbell911 Год назад

Let’s face it,, Trogly like what ever he can jack the price up to make a buck off of. There’s a few sub groups on here. True players looking to improve and help other guitarists improve their own talents. And, non guitarists that use RU-vid to hawk their wares while jacking up the prices 300 400%. - Trogly falls into the later. 4 and 5 piece tops??? Really? Never saw any of these in my life. These dreamers will find out sooner or later that they will be left holding a big empty ball. KMs are decent axes but nothing special. The last question- no. Lol.

@rowbags3017 Год назад

Hmmm - I wonder if my 1978 The Paul (bought new) will see a similar price jump? I bought it precisely because it wasn't like most Les Pauls back then (i.e. ridiculously heavy!) and was a perfect affordable gigging guitar - really well built, totally reliable, high quality pickups and hardware, and it didn't break your back after wearing it for a couple of hours! 😉I still play it most days, so I wouldn't want to part with it, but it would be fun to see The Paul get the credit it deserves as a great workhorse in the Gibson line-up. 😎

@bolt4694 Год назад

Young players today don't care a bit about vintage guitars. They go for the latest, coolest guitars. It's older players with money that drive the vintage market. IMO

@imarriedabrkfsttaco3737 Год назад

Be sure to check completed listings to see what your guitar is actually seling for. BIN prices are mere suggestions from owners looking to get top dollar. Sales are where you'll get an accurate market value. Hopefully you'll find several that have sold so you can get an average price based on originality and condition etc. etc.!

@Scott__C Год назад

Yeah, no doubt. Asking isn't getting!

@j.r.g3548 Год назад

The last 3 to sell went for $3600, $3625, and $4000. So they haven't even doubled in value.

@ValhallaDoom Год назад

Trogly trawling reverb for any reasonably priced guitar, buy them all and sell them for a bigger premium- it’s just business as he says ;)

@twantheunisz9281 Год назад

That is definitely a two-piece top and not a one-piece lol

@RobertBakerGuitar Год назад

I meant to say 2 piece don’t know why I said 1

@twantheunisz9281 Год назад

@@RobertBakerGuitar Well, it is beautiful!

@raymondmeers Год назад

I have a Rickenbacker 660/12TP Tom Petty Signature that I bought in the early 90s - they want 8 to 9k for them. I am in shock. I would never sell it but I paid about 1200 for it

@robyates136 Год назад

Reverb asking price isn't value. If you looked into the sold items list - $3.5-4k player guitars with an extra $1.5-2k exception for a super, super clean, original ones. So "tripling value" is just clickbait garbage.

@jessefillmore Год назад

Exactly , Rob . Asking price is not sold listings . I've played a few 70's Gibson's and IMO I wasn't impressed . It's cool to have a "vintage Gibson" . I'd like to know how many of these players are using them for gigs and recordings . My guitar are tools . Trog is a collector and has created a lot of hype for these 70's and 80's Gibsons .

@robyates136 Год назад

@@jessefillmore I have a 73 Custom. It was my #1 for many years. I don’t pay much attention to Reverb prices for it because it’s a player and worth a lot more to me than any collector grade guitar that hardly got played. It sounds and plays great for me and though heavy, I got used to it because I didn’t know anything different for years.

@TylerJohnstonGuitar Год назад

As the years go on, there’s more and more price gougers. I saw a shop on Reverb offering an Epiphone LP Studio for 1300 and a Squier Affinity Strat for 750.

@ImLeuff Год назад

I discovered Reverb fairly lately and was shocked at how expensive stuff is on there. Granted, prices went nuts in general due to covid and inflation but still, Reverb is so pricey, looks like people are advertising stuff hoping it would sell instead of realistic. I went to look for Epiphone Joe Bonamassa Black Beauty ($800 new year or two ago when it came out) - €1550.

@IdolMako Год назад

reverb is terrible, the best option has and will always be going out to the specific store that has the specific guitar that you are specifically looking for. if thats not feasible, fb marketplace, gumtree, craigslist and ebay.

@TylerJohnstonGuitar Год назад

@@IdolMako When I lived in a big city (Tucson, AZ), my favorite place to buy guitars was OfferUp. Unfortunately I live in the middle of nowhere, West Virginia now and my only option is gear shopping online. Reverb makes it nearly impossible.

@mikeg6666 Год назад

That's insane , I bought one at zZounds for $550 a couple years ago! The Smokehouse burst , beautiful guitar and plays great...

@TylerJohnstonGuitar Год назад

@@mikeg6666 I had a white Studio a few years ago, I picked it up for 399 when Guitar Center was running a sale. Unfortunately I had to sell it to pay some bills when I was medically retired from the service. I miss that thing. No way I’d shell out 1300 for one though!

@BotsWeekendCovers Год назад

Were they sold at these prices? They can try and run them up but they have to get those prices. Crazy prices though huh!!!

@Calloway1970a Год назад

The shredder guitars have already increased in price a bit. I have a 1991 Ibanez RG570 that I bought brand new in '91 for $550, and now I've seen that exact guitar (even the same color) going for anywhere from $750 to $1500. I can see them increasing in value drastically in the next few years. They are incredibly well-playing guitars. Hey Robert, what ever happened to the Chronos? I haven't seen that guitar on the channel for a while.

@davidsollenberger2998 Год назад

Yep. I paid $400 for an RG550 new in ‘87. I have a few of them still. They are listed for more than triple my original price

@JoeR203 Год назад

The most I ever paid for a guitar was $899 for the EVH Black & Yellow striped one. After Eddie died, prices went up. Now they sell for $1150. I also have the "Circle/See Ya" (aka "The Unchained guitar") that I got for $545. It was listed as a blemished item but there's nothing wrong with it. I don't see those anymore. I saw one listed on Reverb for $2300. Since they're discontinued, I think I'll hold on to it a little while longer. 🙂

@monstrok Год назад

'80's Charvel's, ESP's and Jackson's are going to jump in price in the near future. The woods and build quality were great and when coupled with the best of the '80's pickups, these have become absolutely collector's items.

@mitchellkruszyna109 Год назад

I’m so glad I purchased my 1997 Kalamazoo natural finish Les Paul Deluxe a year and a half ago! I paid less than the cost of a new Standard, for me it’s so much more! Such an amazing guitar, I’m a player ( almost 50 years), and it’s my best! Great video!

@Immacu_late Год назад

The vintage market is a collector's one, predominantly and as such, vintage classics sit in rooms unplayed, except for those who play where the sound needs to be pristine or in a recording situation. Several guitarists won't take their "classics" on the road which is understandable. They are like works of art. I have always wanted a classic LP but never could justify the price. But to own one good guitar that delivers is worth it and doesn't have to break the bank (for me it was a USA Fender Strat) The guitar player's world is crazy for the desirable Guitar, amp, pedal etc.

@alandenooyer9201 Год назад

I have owned a 1997 LP Classic in honeyburst for 20 years. Recently it seems this era is considered well made with great materials and value has increased. (Not as much as Roberts, but still. . )

@cvfunnsixspeed9213 Год назад

Yes they have! Good wood era! That ran into the mid 2000’s before things changed.

@cgoebbert Год назад

I bought a 1998 LP Honey Burst and had Les sign it - I know it lowers the value but it was Les Paul and I wanted it more for me, having met him through my former job as GC’s Ntl Promotions Mgr. Anyway, It’s a heavy SOB (9.4lbs!!) but sounds great. I consider it a “recording/home use only” guitar and stays in the case when not being played.

@xcodychaosx Год назад

I bought my 2 electric guitars before covid and both have gone up about 150 200 bucks since :b not tripled but still

@RaptorV1USA Год назад

i purchased probably 5 guitars just prior to covid and most all of them will sell for a bit more now since then .. ain't gettin rich lol, but with luck should i need to sell,,.. ill recoup the investments in them and their upgrades...

@lespaul667 Год назад

That is indeed a 2 piece top. The late 70’s to 1982 had one piece bodies and 3 piece tops, 3 piece maple necks and volute. My fave era ever. Norlin.

@davidsollenberger2998 Год назад

I was about to comment on this. Thanks for saving me the time

@lespaul667 Год назад

This being said, the KM’s were really nice as well as those ‘Heritage 80’ Les Paul. I think the prices are being pumped up, in both the new and used market, to a ridiculous level. When I was in high school working at a supermarket part time, I was able to buy a new Les Paul and a Marshall JCM 800 half stack. See if you could attempt to do that now without mortgaging your home, provided you own one…

@jamesw.3491 Год назад

Asking and selling price aren't always the same thing

@mvenuti1980 Год назад

Robert- the 80s guitars have gone way up. I bought a Charvel Model 6 in 2002 for $350. They are $2k on Reverb now. I also bought a ‘85 LP Custom w/ a Kahler recently and that cost an arm and a leg. 80s guitars are defiantly cool again. I’d start collecting those 90s guitars now!

@MrYatesj1 Год назад

Reverb is not the place to go for a "deal" on a guitar.

@allensparks285 Год назад

You neglect the MAIN reason the prices for KMs went up. It's because youve been showcasing Yours. It all your fault😜🤣

@RobertBakerGuitar Год назад

@bluzzjazz Год назад

Hey Robert, I have a 79KM cherry SB that is completely original, including the frets. It's heavy at 10.8 but it plays great and those cream bobbin HBs sound fantastic. It's my understanding that they made 3,000 of these with the first 1500 having the Custom Made plaques. Mine still has the two small screws in the body but the plaque was missing, I did find a plaque that was on the 335s when they were covering stud holes when installing a Bigsby. They look the same. I bought it in 2005 from a guy that was the second owner and had stopped playing. It had been in his closet for 15 years or so. It literally could pass for 5 years old it's that clean. Anyway, I was at the B3 guitar show in Greenville SC probably 8ish years ago and took it along with a few others to see what kind of offers/trades I could get for them. I ran into Mike Rock who at the time worked for Sam Ash. He offered $2,500 on the spot, even though I only paid $1k for it, I said no. I'm glad I've held onto it. It's a full 2.5lbs heavier than my 72 Goldtop Deluxe LP but it just wails. I know Norlin era gets a bad rap but I love the Deluxe too, those Mini HBs sing!

@DavidHBurkart Год назад

I think it is in part a generational shift, which happens between the 25-35 year mark for players who grew up with the era reaching ages of disposable income as well as the younger players in their circles influenced by the elder players, whether actually well-known artists those they follow locally. Ten years ago, everyone is bashing the 70s Gibsons and Fenders due to all of the great lawsuit guitars out there coming into their own, but these same folks might pick up a 70-something guitar because they were relatively cheap and had road-earned aesthetics as well as being somewhat vintage. Now that the 70s have aged between 43-53 years depending on the year-model you buy, no one can argue their value as true vintage guitars.

@kevinhess9245 Год назад

As much as I love you tube for learning about guitar in general it spreads the word about great guitars, pedals, and amps much faster than word of mouth back before the information station of you tube

@StringTension Год назад

Norlin era Gibson's have their own charm, non-traditional they are a beast of their own. 70's or 80's they're getting pricey.

@DangerAmbrose Год назад

I got a 2013 Les Paul 60s Tribute for under $700. I'm happy with it.

@NicholasStein Год назад

My 1979 25th Anniversary Strat has also tripled in price. I paid about $1100 for a white one in 1979. It was stolen and the insurance company "replaced" it with a silver one. In retrospect that was a good thing because most of the white ones have checked. It still plays well. I hardly play it and it is in factory mint condition. I still have the hang tags and case candy.

@617shakes Год назад

I do believe those 80s guitars are going to continue to go up in price for sure. I'm glad I bought my 1989 charvel when I did (its now worth at least double what I payed for it)

@bldlightpainting Год назад

For more professional and mature video for true ladies and gentlemen of moral character, please do not spew disgusting vulgarity or take our Creator's name in vain. Thank you.

@frankperricone2065 Год назад

I wonder if the 80' guitars go up in price will that include the Japanese made one will go up in price. Last 2 years I have been turned on to the very well made Aria Pro, Westone, Greco, Antoria, Ibenez, Tokia and many other brands that were made. Some people's opinion that the U.S.A. companies dropped the ball on the quality of the guitars made by companies like Gibson and Fender. A lot of these guitars fall into the category of the law suit Era made guitars. More towards the middle of the 80's some of these company's started making there own designs with the different body Shapes and the pointy headstocks. Since I started getting into these guitars prices have gone up a little because a lot of these guitars are great looking and very good playing guitars. I still like my Fender and Gibson guitars and basses but prices of these guitars have gone up and I am not a collector or a professional musician just want a good instrument to play no matter it says on the headstock, I used to be a bit of a headstock snob but as I get older I just want to play a good guitar.

@christophervincent8420 Год назад

Wow. That's crazy

@unclestubs8377 Год назад

I'll give you a dozen eggs for one Les Paul or, should that be a dozen Les Paul's for one egg?!

@RobertBakerGuitar Год назад

I knew there would be an egg joke in here somehwere!

@jcburger733 Год назад

I agree that prices are going so high. It comes down to what the marker will bear. Worst yet, it is hard to determine if it’s a fake.

@IdolMako Год назад

price ≠ value

@Scott__C Год назад

Absolutely.

@surfer4478 Год назад

looks 2 piece to me?

@ChristopherGwinn Год назад

I can't stand most '70s (or '80s) Gibsons. Ugly, heavy, bad specs, bad pickups. There's a reason they fell out of favor in the Norlin era - the quality took a nosedive. If you get a good one, consider yourself one of the lucky few.

@MrRMB1 Год назад

Great video! To answer your question at the end...yes, I think the Charvels and Kramers especially, are going to skyrocket in price. Even the BC Rich guitars with the 'R' on the headstock, are approaching 10K. I agree with you, now is the time to buy if you can afford to. Excellent to mint condition guitars will probably be good investments.

@tomasfjeld99 Год назад

I don’t have a «km», but its not a thing here In norway :p 1976 sunburst «Bob Seger» 1979 custom like Jerry Cantrell 1980 std black and clean 1981 trippel pickup black beauty 1976 = 700$ 1979= 2800$ 1980= 1600$ 1981 = 3100$

@ridewithted2003 Год назад

I don't think 80's guitars will ever hold the same value as the 50's, 60's or 70's guitars. Just think of the volume of 80's guitars that were made! The market was flooded with weirdly shaped guitars aimed at the heavy metal, thrash, death metal and hair bands. I have a 1985 Ibanez X-Series that I bought brand new for $525 (which was good money back then), the same guitar today is selling for......$650. So you can see.... Here I have a guitar that is 38 years old and it has only increased in value $125. So no, 80's guitars will never match the value of 70's guitars. Ever..... well... maybe in a 100 years. Maybe.

@uppencider Год назад

Wanna know the truth? I have tried to love Gibson. Be it a R9 Angus SG a L.P. DC I could keep going. The only one was 74 SG Standard that was decent. I have 1 80's Japan guitar that destroys them. Even over my 85 ESP neck through. I still own Gibsons and Epiphones but I don't love them. I am going to try a Kalamazoo made Heritage next. So yeah many of the 80's Shredder's are Great! And cheap enough to mod.

@Mr.Cynical92 Год назад

I have a 1993 Fender Custom Shop Tele Jr. I paid $2,000 in 2016, I found a few on Reverb for $3,800. They go from being considered "used" to being vintage and they start to appreciate rather than depreciate.

@jaybirdgenetics Год назад

Looks like a two piece 😊

@RobertBakerGuitar Год назад

Yep I meant to say 2 piece

@Sherman1862 Год назад

You also have to also Consider and factor in Inflation and the fact that the Purchasing Power of a Buck has been drastically Eroding in the last few years and Decades.. But Hey, that's still a really Sweet Les Paul!!! : ) Happy New Year!!! ; ) Enjoy!!! : )

@mionapinyon6098 Год назад

One piece top !? You need your eyes checked. Can you not see the centre seem?

@RobertBakerGuitar Год назад

I have a pinned comment correcting this my man. Might need to get your eyes checked😉

@johnriley8314 Год назад

NOT SUR if ACE FREHLEY had a KM in the 70's...but he for SURE COMES TO MIND with a TOBACCO BURST LP in the 70's.....LOL...AND HE INSPIRED MANY TO PLAY AS WELL. Congrads on your INVESTMENT coming to fruitation Robert......COOL NUFF HEY ???? Ohhhh Yeah...... GOD BLESS ALL....ROCK ON !!!!!!!!1.....TUBE AMPS GOING SKY HIGH AS WELL BRO !!!!!!!!!!

@Haukman66 Год назад

Well the ESP Lynch tiger sunburst I bought back in 92’ for $1500 and foolishly sold years later for way too little , are now over $5k!

@BrianBrazilHarmonica Год назад

One of the factors in the price going up for 70's and newer is, the 50's and 60's most of them have been bought and there are only just so many available. If some go on the market they are so much higher the actual working guitar player won't be able to afford them. Only doctors, lawyers and corporate investors would be able to buy them. 🤑

@rocknrollresignation93 Год назад

I think a lot of the reason for the value increases besides the obvious like inflation is exactly the influence channels like this and Trogly has on the market. Go back 15 or 20 years and the general consensus what that 70’s and 80’s Gibsons were garbage and the values reflected it. And that really wasn’t the case. Sure there were some bad examples but people have been waking up to the fact that there are good and bad guitars of every era with Gibson. Also the fact that they had pretty different specs to the “golden age” of the 50’s and 60’s Gibsons.

@overdriveguitarchannel3403 Год назад

Yes the price increase will happen the same way with the 80s stuff. It's a generational thing.... As people of the next gen come of age, the ones with extra money look to get all of the stuff they wanted as a teen but couldn't afford. The clearest illustration of this is the vintage toy market. However as you get newer, rarity goes down..... I guess nobody can predict, but I think it happens

@timcole421 Год назад

USA Jackson, ESP, Kramer American and Focus series are already all there. Check out 80's JEM as well.

@christophermarx344 Год назад

Thanks Robert, having been in my early teens in the late 70s, they are ok guitars (at best) and have similar qualities to 70s cars. Cool looking, but with issues. I bought my 73 Deluxe in 78 and it's my baby, but I wouldn't rave about it's quality or looks. I almost fell over 10 years ago at asking price for something similar and it's gotten worse. Played professionally in the 80s during the guitar play boom and I fully expect that vintage to go crazy soon. A good early 80s Charvel or Jackson used to be in the mid hundreds, now in the thousands and climbing.

@icenic_wolf Год назад

It's 100% gonna happen to '80s guitars, ESPECIALLY the ones that had original Floyds or Schaller Floyds, and also especially the survivors of the "had a thin heel joint but doesn't have a crack forming there" category.

@nycLPplayer Год назад

People can ask whatever they want.....lotta people spent money in 2020-2022 thinking eveything was a speculative investment and are paying the price now. You see this in the mildly collectable car space too.

@chasej7337 Год назад

Very interesting video Robert. I wonder about the prices going up being due to multiple things: perhaps folks are realizing that not all the golden area guitars were super great despite the years of rumors, supply vs demand, etc? I think channels like yours and others are waking a lot of people up to great “underdog” guitars, which could be influencing the demand.

@Adipsia1 Год назад

I live in the UK where we have very limited access to rarer 70's/80's LP's due to poor exchange rate and extortionate import duties. That said, I previously owned a 1981 Gibson LP 'Heritage 80 Standard' prices for which have also jumped. Personally I don't get why they've jumped... OK with the KM there's still the Kalamazoo link, but at the end of the day - like my previous Heritage 80 - they weigh a ton and aren't very close to original Bursts in any way. 70's Fenders are also shooting up in price for some reason... some are good, some are awful but the Norlin/CBS Arbiter eras are hardly renowned for quality. I reckon that the market for some 80's guitars like US-made Valley-Arts and Swiss-built Levinson Blades will justifiably rise in price because they were quality instruments AND are now 'old'... but if I wanted an old Gibson Les Paul that was relatively authentic and played great, I'd go Murphy Lab.

@sydwynd Год назад

Back in 1988 I could have purchased a used Les Paul Artisan for $600. Adjusted for inflation, that’s about $1550 today. Check Reverb. Average price is about $7500. Now I get a “more rare” guitar can command a premium, but $6000 more than the street price from back in the day? That’s insane. Gibson guitars are way overpriced. I love them but can’t touch anything I might want. Which is sad.

@jordanprysmiki5361 Год назад

I got a 1977 les paul deluxe in 2003 for $980 shipped. Sold in 2006 for $2020. Not they are asking $5500. BTW It was the prettiest guitar I ever owned but the *most awful playing* guitar I ever owned.

@Scott__C Год назад

It's hilarious with the Gibson stuff. 10/15/20 years ago, all the 70s guitars were said to be terrible. Yet, Mick Jones of Foreigner, Randy Rhoads and others produced dandy music on them. Now, they're "collectible". The 80s guitars have gone up significantly, depending on what you're looking at.

@bradleyard4195 Год назад

I have a 1981 Gibson Sonex that, back in 1991, I paid $200. For years, since it's one of Gibson's least sought-after models traditionally, $200-$300 would get you one of these. Now? In mint condition, anywhere from $1400-$3000. Now, mine is heavily played, and the only original parts left are the pots, the body, the neck, and the tailpiece, but even in that condition, you're talking $900, not that I ever plan to sell it, it's getting buried with me. Still, all of the sudden, they're a collector piece, and the price went sky high. Weird.

@beezyonbass3906 Год назад

I dunno. I feel like people have been waiting for 70s era guitars to be “valuable” for a few decades now. Late 50s - 60s stuff was considered valuable and vintage by the 80s. So…25-30 years after the fact. These 70s guitars are 44-53 years old now. Yet still don’t command the types of premiums those 50s/60s guitars did 30+ years ago. I think this is more of a matter of inflation happening to a specific product segment. “New Gibsons are really expensive. Why not pay 1-2k more for a similarly spec’d 70s guitar instead of a new one.”

@theoversouls Год назад

Just because people are "fishing" for those prices doesn't mean that's what they're actually selling for. I ALWAYS look at SOLD listings for obvious reasons.

@rudygracia5573 Год назад

Back in the day,I THOUGHT people bought guitars because there was a chance that they may be discovered,and get to play those guitars on the "BIG STAGE"!!Now,no one is gonna make it big!Guitars are out,music popularity wise.Why are people still shelling out thousands for guitars?in a few years they're all gonna be doorstops.

@axemonkeyguitar8758 Год назад

Everything goes up a little if it's quality. That being said, I think it will still be a while before other companies guitars begin to bring the really high dollar prices. Gibson and Fender a few really in a class by themselves because of how long they have been at it, but even other icons of the industry like Grestch don't bring as much $. Most of the "shredder" guitars were not really high quality. That's part of where the era of custom building came from. I'm 52, been playing since I'm 14, so I remember how they were. Flashy, gnarly, and in many cases crappy. And no, I'm not nostalgic for them. Other things I don't miss about 80's rock: spandex, chest hair (Bon Jovi, Sammy Hagar I'm talking to you guys among others), boys borrowing Mom's makeup and sisters wardrobe. Yea, miss me with all of that. Thank God for the rise of newer styles. Even grunge had flannel 👕. Beats sequins and high heels.

@johnnyguitar2185 Год назад

HI Robert , they are priced high BUT are they selling ? that's the key ..I look it at it this way i can buy 5-6 Brand new PRS SE's the new DGT's or the 594's for what there asking for ...Even 3 PRS American made guitars ...

@corneliuscrewe677 Год назад

I’ve got a ‘67 F100 I bought 30 years ago for $800. I’ve put several hundred thousand miles on it, and it’s due for it’s second full rebuild. Found out I could easily pull $15 to $20k. Blows my mind....

@wadeguidry6675 Год назад

It's all your friend Trogly's fault! I think the high end 80s shred guitars like American Jacksons will go up. Also higher end Japanese stuff will go up. The cheapest stuff like Hondos and Vantage will probably never be worth much.

@shanethackeray1988 Год назад

Yes I think 80’s guitars are already jumping up in price ( if they are clean ) I bought an Washburn A10 in 81 ( it’s a 79 model ) brand new in 81 for $500.00, even in todays market with the rise in value rates, that guitar fetches $1,800.00 to $2000.00 on EBay or Reverb. The market dictates the prices that some are willing to pay, prices aren’t always high for Gibson or Fender there are other manufacturers that guitarist want from back catalogues, Washburn ( US or Japan ) made are selling well atm.

@gruggiere Год назад

Lol I had 79 custom LP natural i paid 630 .00 bucks Brand new in 82 i had to sell it in the early 90s for diapers And milk, i sold it for 600.00 i was happy I didn’t lose any money On it, yeah kicking myself now! Oh well would’ve, could’ve, should’ve. 😂

@brianphelps1183 Год назад

It will if there is a market. Old Gibsons LP, ES are crazy priced. I have my fathers 1960 ES355TDSV and the value is nuts. He paid $600 when he bought it back then.

@soundboy57 Год назад

Everyone knows sold prices are what you look at for value. The Km is selling for as little as $3500, and up to $5500. Around $4200 average. You sound like a Craigslist ad. :) Hardly "triple" not even double, but I digress. I did subscribe, though, and enjoy your channel. Keep having fun. You are a good player with good taste in gear and tone :)

@sonsauvage Год назад

I’m just glad I already have gear that I like playing. Because the prices of things has absolutely gone out of control in a way non-correlative to inflation

@sqrly2u Год назад

I don't really think typical the 80's shredders will jump up in price astronomically. Unless they were made famous by an artist. Even the Jackson RR series guitars are affordable still. Bolt on or set neck. I have a 1993 Jackson RR3 That I paid $900 for in 2011. It is a bolt on neck guitar that came with EMG's and a hard shell case. It is still worth about $900 to the right person today. It has not gone up in value, but it has stayed at the dollar amount. But...always a but, $900 in 2011 is about $1200 today. So it has actually gone down in value. That is the kicker. Inflation has gone overboard in the last couple of years. So dollar amounts then, are no where near dollar amounts now. Hope that made sense. Thanks for the vid. I love your channel and truly enjoy listening to you.

@garykeller15 Год назад

Ive seen what looks like it's gonna be people jumping to old charvels back to the 80s-90s Model Versions. because i started to see Lefty model 475's charvels start to become scarce as back a few years ago you could find alot of the older lefty charvel model 475s, mostly in the sunburst and metallic black. I have a 1990's metallic black charvel model 475, everything is original except i changed out the crappy jackson active pickups and gave them away to a former friend, and had 2 dimarzio fast track 2's and dimarzio super 3 put in them, plan to have the guitar pleked at Sweetwater, the frets replaced with stainless steel frets and a original floyd rose tremolo and locking nut put in with some FU-Tone Upgrades as well as some Sperzel Locking Tuners. Reason why locking tuners and Locking nut both. Well blame it on Henning Pauly. he convinced me that having both is best. so blame him for that. Personally i will never get rid of this guitar because it was my first real guitar. which why i bought a Gator G-tour case to put it in.

@gkroberts7816 Год назад

80s shredder guitars have already started jumping up. The B.C Rich Ironbirds are going for ridiculous prices for bottom end series guitars. The N.Js and U.S series are higher still. I've been chasing an NJ or U.S ST3 or Gunsliger and cant find one under $2000 (Australian dollars).

@nalukeko Год назад

Yea, 80s axes will have their day soon too. Just look at Phillip McKnight and the Badlands folks... Charvels, Jacksons, etc. gonna be hot items...

@IndyRockStar Год назад

I just got a 1983 Marshall JCM800 4210. I got it in a trade, and was shocked at what they are selling for even in poor condition. This one works, and is in decent condition. It needs maintenance, which I'm doing. I am switching out the speaker to a G12H-75 Cream back, but that shouldn't hurt the value.

@travisrusselldc Год назад

Are those sale prices on the Les Pauls, tho? I see that the list/asking prices are way up but are they actually selling at those increased prices? That being said, I used to buy the 80’s-early 90’s Japanese made model series and toothpaste logo Charvels for $200-$300 all day long. At one time I had 3 Charvel 750xl’s that I got for $500 each. Those were made for 1 year only and all 3 of mine had trans tops and the more rare string thru bridge as opposed to the Floyd. Good luck finding any of those for under $1,000-$1,500 in average shape now…

@musicmann1967 Год назад

I think the 70's Gibsons might now be going through what 70's Fender went through already. BAck in the 70's we regarded the 70's Fenders as "lesser than" the 60's and 50s guitars. They weren't desirable. Eventually the rarity and high prices of the 50s and 60s Fenders made people look at the 70s guitars as desirable. They lost their stank with a new generation of buyers and collectors, so the prices went way up. In my oipinion, they're still crappy compared the 60s Fenders, but supply and demand and price change the equation. Maybe thats happened with the 70s Les Pauls too. YOu can get a vintage 70s Les Paul for the same price as a current Custom Shop LP. I think people like the idea of that.

@FrankMacDonell Год назад

I owned 1972 les paul deluxe, dark cherry sunburst and a rare wine red stained back and sides. Embossed pickup covers. Light and resonate. I would put that guitar up against ANYTHING gibson ever produced.

@Ones_Complement Год назад

>Government prints trillions of dollars in 2 years >Thinks his guitar spiked in value Lol

@IgorMuller Год назад

About vintage/modern sutff, slightly off your videos topic. A year ago i got myself a fresh out of factory Gibson LP 50s. And it is absolutely, seriously tremendiously killer guitar. They really really nailed it at Gibson with this model. I was comparing it with LP 60s and PRS S2 245, and 50s is 2 inches above if you are looking for a vintage feel and sound. Everyone who does should definitely should check them out. Also Tim Pierce has some quality vids about why modern guitars are much more conviniet if not straight better then vintage one, if you are a player not a collector.