Does character growth mean he has to change his personality? Or growth could mean he doubles down on it and goes even harder just like Luffy. They’re both very stubborn and born Conquerors
@@thetruth997_ If Kid comes back doing more of the same, despite the results and he ends up suffering for it even more, I'd consider that to be a lack of character growth. I believe the things that happened to Kid are happening to him for a reason. So if Oda decides to bring him back and reward him for doubling down then maybe character growth wasn't the answer. Maybe he just needed to get stronger. If not, then Kid needs to grow up.
@@kjk607 I mean, let's put this in perspective. Kid spent most of his pirate career doing nothing but winning. From the time he left his home island, until the time he had his first run in with the RHP, he didn't suffer a single loss that we know of. And losing to Beckman of all people isn't something to be ashamed of, especially during the time frame it happened in (Luffy was still boxing moderately sized animals to get stronger at that point). And after that? He took his time planning out another move, getting stronger, and amassing influence and connections. He didn't just charge in to take on another Yonko. He even managed to get a Road Poneglyph from the BMP, without having to even confront BM directly. And after that he was plotting a move against the RHP, we just never found out the details (but he clearly wasn't rushing into it blindly). Its just Kaido bellyflopped onto his island and ruined all his plans (funnily enough, due to KILLER'S error in judgement, not his; Kid didn't enat to get involved with Apoo, Killer talked him into it). Then after his escape, he went to Onigahdima. You can call that reckless, but I kinda doubt he would have done it if he didn't already know that the SH's and their allies were ALSO planning an assault. And he ultimately worked together with them and managed to take down 2 Yonko in total. All things considered, his way of doing things worked out fine. He just had the unfortunate luck of running into another Yonko fleet on his own, and rather than just surrendering everything he worked for he chose to fight. And he lost. There's really not much he needs to change beyond just getting storng enough thst he can keep being himself. That's how Roger did it (canon fact that he was reckless and had a temper, and just somehow got lucky enough to survive until he was too strong to die pointlessly). Lol. People just want him to be "humbled" and give up on dreaming big for some reason. Not a single person who has been called a "Great Pirate" in the story has had that mentality.
@@Jb-id1bu Kidd initiates most of his fights without being ready for them. He challenged Shank's fleet after barely getting a Mediocre W on Big Mom. He challenged Kaido twice by himself without being ready. Losing to Beckman is absolutely something to be ashamed if you're the one that initiated the fight with his crew and you didn't even get to fight the Captain of said crew. I don't give Kid credit for the thought of forming his alliance with Apoo and Hawkins because, like you said, he never wanted to do so in the first place. Kid, after seeing Luffy battle Kaido with his Haki, had an opportunity to learn about himself the same way Luffy did from his defeat. He even seemed to hint at understanding the power of haki. But rather than taking time to train, he jumps right into attacking a Yonko and his fleet, by himself despite barely surging his battle with another Yonko with tons of help. Any perspective shows that Kid is immature and, unlike Luffy, will not be rewarded for his style of immaturity. Kid is not the hero of this story so he doesn't get to make the same mistakes. He needs to take a page out of Law's book and grow up. Roger's W/L record is unknown but comparing any other character to Roger makes little sense when it's shown that no pirate of today is remotely comparable to Roger. Not Kaido, not Big Mom, Not even his own son. Plenty of great pirates avoid fights that they aren't ready to have. Shanks and WB are the first ones that come to mind. BB and Luffy do it too. Mindlessly jumping into battle isn't always rewarded in OP (unless you're important to the plot). Even Kaido and Big Mom are "humble" enough to not outright attack each other without prepping properly. Did so for years.
@@Nazmi-xy6np crazy how demoro black is cosplaying him now tho huh? Just like he did luffy before luffy came back stronger. Foreshadowing by oda i think so brother. Stay mad
As kid fan, I think kid ll ve SAME BS as luffy, and he will allie with the guy with burn scar, because he ve the last poneglif, and he will fight luffy after he win vs WG
I genuinely fw useless d mid,his character his prolly my favourite in the series before he got smoked,would be a shame if he lost that badly and didnt make a comeback.
@@Nazmi-xy6npkid haters have to be some of the most annoying fans in the community. Is the only thing ur good for beating a dead horse? Didn’t even add anything to the convo just copy and paste “useless mid” lmao
After seeing Demaro Black returning for the 1st time since the start of the Post time skip, it's a perfect foreshadow foe the Kid Pirates to come back even better than before!
Oda showed us a few things back to back that inspire my next idea 1. Together they can combat a Yonko 2. Seperate Yonko is beyond them 3. In the word of Kendick these dudes cliqueing up (Cross Guild) With all 3 of these things I truly believe Law and Kidd will sync up becoming a much stronger merges crew with co captains similar to how the giant pirates operate. In fact they will most likely form up and train on elbaf and learn from them that sometimes it's OK to recognize a rival as an ally. They give big Zoro Sanji vibes so they will fight but their team work would be impressive
Tbh luffy at this stage could take on yonko like black beard big mom and and he is on the verge of being able to face kaido one on one without any help he just needs to extend the gear 5 stage the only current yonko who poses a challenge is shanks
Kid is going to be important based on his fruit alone imo. the earth has a iron core and spins using magnetism, thus the jika fruit being the earth god makes perfect sense
The beginning part of this video where u mentioned how fishman would have an advantage discovering the ancient kindgom made me think back to jinbe cover story because i remember he had encountered some aincent ruins under the sea
Law and Kidd both have really strong powers that could be really helpful in the future Kidd can control metal with his magnetism and puppet it around, THERES LITERALLY A GIANT ROBOT that’s taking precedent in recent chapters Kidd could pilot something like that around!!
I think Law and Kid will each ally with an emperor going forward. Law will join cross guild as Buggy’s subordinate since he doesn’t really care about being pirate king, he just wants to learn about the will of D so not being captain isn’t a big deal for him as long as he reaches laugh tale. Kid on the other hand would never allow himself to be someone else’s subordinate however he will form an alliance with Blackbeard to get revenge on Shanks. Blackbeard is going to kill Shanks in the future and I believe Kid could play a role in that (obviously Blackbeard will be the one who actually kills shanks but Kid could hit him with a surprise attack Shiryu style to give Blackbeard an advantage.)
Tulips🌷appear to die at the end of the summer, but they grow back in the spring. Oda may have been hinting that although Kidd appears to be dead, he will be back.🤔 Something to think about.
i have a wild theory there's a japanese movie that was created by toho studios the same guys who created godzilla and the movie is called Atragon and in this movie there's an undersea empire called mu like imu and they worship manda a blue sea serpent dragon kaiju and shandora worshiped a massive blue snake coincidence I THINK maybe
I believe there would be a SH grander fleet which will include the current grand fleet + armies of alabasta , dressrosa ,wano, skypiea , Amazon lily, fish men , Bonney pirates (aka bonney + pacafistas) ,kidd pirates and heart pirates , maybe we can also add the army of elbaf once we reach that arc or even some parts of Big mom pirates
I think kid will build a new ship with his df while trying to reconnect with the giants once luffy comes to elbaf a war hero… vivi and Wapol at Elbaf 2024.
The question no one seems to think about is where 200 meters of water came from. Or did the old kingdom have 200 satellites like the mother flame and flatten the entire world
I thought it was obvious. The huge ancient continents sinked all the way to the bottom of the ocean floor due to the use of the 3 ancient weapons causing the sea level to rise. Just like when Lilusia was wiped out and someone said that the sea level went up by 1 meter.
I think that kid, law, and luffy will have something to do with pulling the lost cities from the depths of the seas. Or, possibly affecting the planet's gravitation to turn the world upside down lol just a thought 😅
It makes a lot of sense why the World Government hasnt used the ancient weapons till now, or uranus for that matter, what if luffy and mainly gear.5 is like the charger for it, explains why it was only used during void century and only used after the kaido fight
I believe Kid could have become the perfect rival for luffy. The only difference i see is Kid is more violent while luffy is Kinder. - Both Kid and Lufyy are from same Generation. - Both Kid and Luffy are Idiots (Law is Smart, he makes plans.) - Both Kid and Luffy are Stuborn, They will keep hitting stronger opponents until they win. - Both Kid and Luffy have amazing endurance. ( we saw kid was taking a hell lot of damage during his fight with linlin). - Both Kid and Luffy are very brave. Imagine Kaido falling down on your base even blackbeard would have gotten his ass beat. But Kid chose to fight kaido. - Both are after One Piece from the very start. ( I have not seen even once Law saying he wants One Piece, he wants to only read history). - and The most Important Both of them have got some history with shanks. ( Kid's Left hand is not the reason he wants to kill shanks). Well now it really doen't matter considering kid is dead. But he was a great character and i want people to stop hating him just because he got one shot by shanks. Remeber Luffy also got one shot by kaido. Shanks , Kaido , LinLin, Whitebeard, Roger these are different creatures. As hawkins said logic doen't apply to them.
Law never seemed interested in becoming pirate king and instead just wanted to know the truth of the will of D. Kid wanted to become pirate king but after the Shanks fight maybe he realizes that maybe someone else should get the title or atleast he needs help if he wants to get there. So I think it's very possible that Kid and Law decide to join Luffy. They put their faith in him to carry them to Laughtale.
One of the best things I can think of is if Law and Kidd did become just one crew. Laws entire reason for being s pirate and captain for a long time has been to just take down doffy. Now it's to find the truth of the world. He doesn't need to be a captain anymore. Yonko's will probably still be a thing after the one piece series are over and i don't think Law and Kidd can individually be one with their current power. They need better crews, easy way to fix that is them Combining. Law being the Raleigh to Kid's Roger.
The Tulip is also the national flower of the Netherlands....,you know the Dutch ^^. Also Tulips don't die, they 'hibernate'. My money is on the fact he comes back with a (certain) flying ship.
Friendly reminder we all saw submerged ruins in Jimbe's cover story right before he went to WCI. Wadatsumi was throwing them out of the sea. And Kidd kinda grew up with his crew before becoming pirates, kinda hard for him to be Vega's satellite.
It takes some mental gymnastics but a reasonable explanation for why the cities would be all in the calm belt is that it was the shoreline of a belt continent, what is now grand line essentially being steep but low peaks, unfit for the building of great ancient cities. It is also beneficial for civilisations to build in places with port access, though I see the shortcomings of this explanation (we have inland cities that have existed even before globalisation and transport revolution). The islands we know now used to be the only peaks existing above 200 meters above water. This would, however go against the all blue theory (luffy destroys the red line to merge the seas) and idk how to feel about that because this is then just another red line, just perpendicular to the one in the present.
And also tulips are the dutch national flower and maybe the last poneglive is in a netherlands inspired country(that's just my dutch heart wishing, It's probably below the sea since most of the netherlands is below sealevel )
There's more evidence that Kid is connected to Vegapunk: • like all the Satellites. Kid could possibly have a kanji for an emotion of function, and number somewhere on his body. We've noticed that it's been on the barrel of his Damned Punk. But what if it was on the bicep on his left arm that was severed? Even during pre time skip. Kid is always been seen with his left arm covered either by his coat or not been shown. As for the emotion or function, I guess based on kids more dominant personality traits. Like Anger, Ambition, Pride, E.C.T. • At the start of the Egghead Island arc. When Lilith showed up with 8 Sea beasts to rob the Strawhats. They have all been seen with a resemblance is to all 7 Satellites, including Stella (Original Vegapunk). But the 8th one looks a little like Kid (Red Mame and Black Horns) • Kid's crewmate Killer has a resemblance to Shaka in terms of their helmets/heads. And they remind me of the french music duo Daftpunk. • In the end credits of Film: Z. There was an image of Kid as a child who also had a spanner in his hand and in the other one was a small robot that he most likely made himself. This may have been a bit of a foreshadowing moment.
The ruins being close to Elbaf is a good point, being an ancient island of giants the rise in sea level probably did not have much impact, maybe is close to the surface.
I think if all three crews re unite on elbaf a way luffy can ensure they join his grand fleet is Franky making both law and kid new ships out of Adam wood.
Can somebody point me to the chapter where Blackbeard stole Law's poneglyphs? My memory says that Sulong Bepo drove them off before he got the rubbings
The part about warrior vs worrier actually made way too much sense for me. Explains why I always am better at shooters when I have to take a call while playing
Law could make a room the size of a mountain in punk hazard. By now he could probably just room pluton out of wano, if kaido and big mom don’t get to it
Uranus leaving behind a crater could be due to is lack of original fuel and actually could be its powerless ness that makes it crater left behind, Uranus with descent power and the last time it was used with its original powersource 100s of years ago could be at the enles lobby with some part of it restored floating in the middle, The fact that Uranus actually was fired more than 200 time and didnt left crater behind but completely erased the place with destroying the places original state and reconstructing like there had been nothing and looking like untouched for a long time might be true.
Law knows about pluton being under wano, which if it were to happen would probably mean that he ends up bringing Yamato to luffy, much how oden joined whiteboard then transferred over to Rogers crew Oden went from a patchwork crew(whitebeards family), to the king of the pirates crew Yamato will go from a patchwork crew(Kidd and law) to the pirate king(luffy)
The Noah makes way more sense now. Save the fishman abd others not only from flooding but the insanely powerful currents I'm sure would have happened and also the panel where Roger and his crew laughed. 0 details in that scene cause oda couldn't show us they might be underwater. Goda is insane I love him ❤
Law could join the straw hat grand fleet, since he knows Luffy's potential and power. While Kidd could join the crew that has the biggest grudge against Shanks, and the Cross Guild is always looking for strong members.
With zunesha "zou" being a phantom island and the fact that it was just at wano I imagine it cant have gone too far in the seas of the new world by now if anything bepo still has his vivre card to return back home. although I would love to see law at Elbaf
Ok I mean What?? I need to talk to someone about this… cause its been bugging me for a really long time…. There are 4 road poneglyphs and everyone is saying AH YES!!! We have all known were the 4 were on Mr Gol’s time, one on Zou, one with the Samurai, one with BigMom and one with the fishmen, and for some reason yall asumed that the Giants went to fishman island to get a poneglyph??? What?? If anyone would have had access to fishman island to grab that one would have been bigmom(she literally owned the place right and had like a whole treaty there and a child with them right?)!! You all for literally no reason at all went ahead and asume that we know the full story of Gol D Roger out of fucking nowhere “ah yes, its fine that we are not shown how he got one of the red poneglyphs cause its just big mom, who wants to see that” thats what yall sound like… that would be boring as hell, and would mean there are no other roger flashbacks left, also that the giants went underwater to get a poneglyph sometime in the last 20 years?!? Without bigmom knowing she could have had 2 at a single moment in time. And that the giants have no connection at all with the one they are holding, they just decided to protect it out of fucking nowhere?! Thank you for listening to my rant, I never take the time to participate in online one piece discord but yeah thats what I think, if you have any questions im zoppyam on discord and in every other platform
It just makes too much sense for kidd to join cross guild. It matches his character growth in wano having to swallow his pride and ask for help with luffy beating kaido and having to need law’s help to fight big mom. He was portrayed as a rival to luffy for the entire story since he was introduced and they never clashed once, and all the major players in cross guild have fought or have relationships with luffy and the straw hats. Who else would luffy fight if the straw hats had a davy back fight with cross guild? not crocodile not buggy. Mihawk is zoro’s fight. If it was mihawk vs zoro, sanji vs croc, and luffy vs kidd that would be amazing matchups. Then getting revenge on shanks would be easy because buggy and mihawk have to meet up with shanks at some point. Cross guild is trying to jump into the race for the one piece as well and there’s not many other ways for kidd to get back into the race since he doesn’t have any more poneglyphs and no ship. Also kidd went after shanks long before he announced he was going for the one piece so shanks probably didn’t have any poneglyphs, so why would kidd attack shanks? There has to be some kind of other history with him and shanks that we don’t know of.
