Mark Grace...more hits in the 90s most extra base hits in the 90s ..gold gloves ..very reliable ...consistent 300 hitter and played on the Cubs for almost entire career and when he finished in Arizona was clutch in the world series and got his ring
Ellis Burks comes to mind. He came up with the Red Sox in the late 80s with the rare combination of speed, power, high batting average and great defense and the inevitable comparisons to Mays started. Then he started getting injured and missing games. Still had a solid career.
Carlos Zambrano is actually doing very well! He is currently a pastor at my church in Miami. And some church members have told me hes been playing in a mexican baseball league and i get to see and say hi to him every now and then when hes at Sunday service
Most hits in the 1940s - Lou Boudreau - HOF Most hits in the 1950s - Richie Ashburn - HOF Most hits in the 1960s - Roberto Clemente - HOF Most hits in the 1970s - Pete Rose - Banned for life, but Rod Carew was 2nd, he's a HOFer Most hits in the 1980s - Robin Yount - HOF Most hits in the 2000s - Ichiro Suzuki - Will be in the HOF on 1st ballot most likely Who's missing? Most hits in the 1990s - Mark Grace - 2,445 Career Hits, .303 Career Average, WS Ring, not in HOF
Kenny Lofton. Career .299 hitter that was always on competitive teeams, despite being shopped around in the last third of his career. Lead the league constantly in stolen bases and could cover more than almost everyone in Center. Such a great player and was massively snubbed by the HoF committee since he was being judged by his home run count despite being an on-base guy.
These players aren’t even remotely as forgotten as the Negro League Hall of Famers not named Satchel Paige or, to a lesser extent, Josh Gibson. Consider Buck Leonard, the “Black Lou Gehrig, John Henry Lloyd, the “Black Horus Wagner” for whom Wagner appreciated the comparison and Babe Ruth declared the best baseball player, Oscar Charleston who people felt was better than Willie Mays, Cool Papa Bell, Martin Dihigo, a player so versatile that he played all positions and could play them well, or Rube Foster that taught Christy Mathewson his famous “Fadeaway” pitch which was the progenitor of the screwball. You should do a video about them. Also, if you don’t know who they are, learn about them.
Finally, someone who actually gets it. Disregarding the great Negro League players isn't just a disservice to yourself as a baseball fan, it's a disservice to the players who were literally barred from playing in the MLB simply because of their race. Bullet Rogan, Turkey Stearnes, Dobie Moore, Bill Foster, all some of the most underlooked players of all time.
A very small thing from someone who watches a lot of baseball in the 90s. Troy Glaus pronounces his last name like “gloss”. Just wanted to let you know. Nice vid
Gary Sheffield. That guy was one of the best hitters in baseball from his 2nd season in the majors until his last. He should have been first ballot HoF, instead, he was during the steroids era, and only those extremely liked by the media get in (Jeter, Ortiz, Chipper, Thome)
Sheffield won’t be forgotten, largely because he is in the 500 home run club. But he’s also trending towards Hall of Fame enshrinement next year. Also, you should know that Thome wasn’t liked by the media, not because he was aggressive to them, but because he was so humble they never got a chance to interview him. It got to the point where some actually assumed, despite his insane home run numbers, that he wouldn’t be a first-ballot pick, but thankfully he was.
That video brought back some memories! Personally, I'm a bit of a weirdo, my alltime favorite player is Willie McGee because he was a speedy, switch-hitting centerfielder with a great glove. I love any player who fits that criteria, but McGee was almost as skinny as my scrawny ass (a former coworker who was born and raised in Somalia said I was the skinniest MF he had ever seen!) and I appreciated that deeply lol. He might not have necessarily been a HOF'er if it wasn't for the injuries, but his 85 season was insane .353 BA, 10 HR, 82 RBI, 56 SB, 26 2B, 18 3B MVP GG AS. The injuries came the next year in 86 and derailed what could have been an amazing career and it happened to my fav football player in 86 too. It was a shitty year.
Troy Tulowitski in his prime looked like the next coming of Derek Jeter. We went from yelling "Jeter!" during a jump through to "Tulo!" He is one of the best rockies and definitely our best shortstop in history. (Second maybe only to Story)
How about Cedeno's teammate Jose Cruz or Hrbek in Min? Nice list but, for a hardcore baseball fan like me, these dudes will never be forgotten. This video could be many hours long lol.
Further on Carlos Zambrano, he is one of 63 pitchers since 1900 to maintain an ERA+ of 140 or more over four consecutive qualifying seasons and one of 51 in the same period to maintain an ERA+ of 130 or more over seven consecutive qualifying seasons. Sure, in both cases he's near the bottom of the pack -- surrounded by both literal legends (Dizzy Dean, Warren Spahn) and other "hey, it's that guy"s (Mort Cooper, Hippo Vaughn) -- but he's on the list regardless. Kevin Appier is even on a tier above that -- one of 35 with an ERA+ of 150 over four straight and one of 29 with a 140 over seven straight.
Big Z was my favorite player as a kid and it kind of irks me people only remember him for his outbursts. I remember him for being a great switch hitting pitcher!
Cecil Copper. On top of some amazing offensive numbers in the late 70s and early 80s, also had 2 Gold Gloves. Totally forgotten because of Yount and Molitor, but shouldn’t be!
@@shaughnziech2193 All three of them were great, but Cooper was at a different level, and why I think he fits in the category of this video. A career .298 hitter, more than 2100 hits and 1100 RBIs. Lead the league in RBIs and doubles twice. Oh, and hit .352 in 1980, but that was the year Brett hit .390!
@@DaDitka I agree. Even though his numbers are better than many who made it into the Hall, he's still not there. I just thought he was a perfect example for the subject of this video, since he was more than a solid player, but virtually no one remembers him.
Cesar Cedeno was the most graceful CF I ever saw. Cesar was also a CF that could get to the exact spot where the ball he was chasing would land and wait under the ball, Waiting confidently for the ball to come down, he would wait till the last second to flip his H-Web Rawlings up and catch the ball like a boss. The balls Cesar would be waiting under would not be made by most other CFs of the day as they were not as swift as "The Czar" nor did they take the perfect angle to the ball like he did. Great at stealing bases and even hitting. Cesar will forever be my favorite Outfielder. I was lucky to grow up in Houston Tx and watch Cesar play many times. ..... I loved his style . I played CF at Bellaire High School for 3 seasons and then again at Rice University for 4 seasons. I was finally able to wear #28 at RU and tried every day to play like The Czar. He was the best in my book and should not simply vanish. Liked the Vid
Bobby Abreu...career .291 avg (over .300 6 times) 1363 RBIs (over 100 8 times), 574 doubles, stole 400 bases in 18 seasons, even snuck in a GG!!! And only a 2x all-star?? Dude was real good!!!
Cedeno helped rescue St. Louis in 1985 when Jack Clark was hurt, I think the number was .434 BA, the also lost many home runs playing in the Astrodome which was dead air, btw, I think the name is pronounced Sa-Day-neo
Well don’t know if he was necessarily forgotten, but maybe overlooked as a great player was Keith Hernandez. With his Seinfeld appearance, his broadcasting career, and his books he has remained in the limelight but I think people don’t remember what a really good and knowledgeable player he was!
love the video!!! willie mcgee, torii hunter, sandy koufax, eric chavez, yoenis cespedes, grady sizemore, albert belle, lou brock, satchel paige, joe mauer, ryan howard, chris davis, rafael furcal, shane victorino, jacoby ellsbury, kenny lofton, hanley ramirez, curtis granderson, david wright, carlos beltran, mike schmidt, juan pierre, jay buhner, gary sheffield
It was really cemented how much Appier has been forgotten when you showed the few rare clips you could find, and they are basically all clips of someone else hitting a homer off him. Sad. I remember him, and he was such a group at pitcher. Royals were REALLY good at developing pitchers for a while there.
When Appier was on, the ball seemed to do things you can't do with a baseball. His fastball had rise to it. His breaking stuff was in its own class. There should be a separate Hall of Fame wing for some of those 80s and 90s pitchers who really got stiffed by HOF voters. Hell, the Royals can make up a significant part of that with Appier and Bret Saberhagen, right behind the king of this class, Dave Stieb.
@@ChristopherBowenSuperbus I mean, I liked them but they aren’t hall worthy to me. They didn’t have the career or a peak that was good AND long enough. They deserve to be remembered though.
1:05 To be fair, that's another reason we still keep up baseball encyclopedias, online and off. For better or worse, we at least have numerical data on literally thousands of players even if we don't have a face to some of them. The numbers are their record and those aren't forgotten.
Dale Murphy. He lead all offensive categories throughout the decade of the 80's Except home runs, Total Bases, and Stolen bases. He is 1 of 2 back-to-back MVP award winners not in the HOF. Roger Marris is the other. Murphy won multiple gold gloves and is a multiple time member of the 30 for 30 club.
Oh, man, if he could have just put together one or two more seasons like he did in 1983 or 1985, I have NO doubt he would be in the Hall. None. He missed it just by [----] that much.
Vern Stephens. He wad an OUTSTANDING shortstop for the Browns and Red Sox back in the 1940s and 1950s who could do it all. Dan Quisenberry. One of the best closers to ever play the game, had a sudden drop in saves after 1985 despite putting up solid overall numbers (give him two more seasons like he had in 1985 and I wager he is in the Hall). Willie McGee. Solid hitter with two batting titles, an MVP award, and played on several championship teams. Good defense. Frank Howard. One of the top power hitters of the 1960s who would have easily, and I mean EASILY, hit well over 500 homers if he had played in a different ballpark. Bob Boone. Not a great hitter but at one time he held the career record for games played at catcher. Good defensive player and not terrible at the bat. Lymon Bostock. He was an up and coming outfielder for Minnesota and, I believe California, before being murdered in Gary, Indiana. Check out his numbers, he wad a fine player. Ron Kittle. This one is a bit controversial so let me explain- this man broke his back when he was 18 years old, and was injured a lot during his career from 1983-1990. But I firmly believe that if he could have been healthy and had a good back, he would.have easily hit well over 400 home runs. He won the Rookie of the Year award in 1983 (although I think Mike Boddicker should have won it) and helped the White Sox to a division title that year. He was one of the strongest players I have ever seen. Take this for what it's worth. But I think they deserve to be remembered.
E. Burks, Cedeno, F. Lynn, Bobby Bonds, Vada Pinson, Brian Downing, Darrell Evans, Joe Mauer, all similar offensive WAR for career. Dwight Evans even higher than those mentioned.
Great video but could you please learn to pronounce these guys names correctly? Glaus and Appier were wrong and Cesar Cedeno was wrong with both names. They need to be remembered but they need to be remembered correctly. Keep the great content coming
Dave Concepcion, perennial All-Star, defensive wizard. A light hitter for a modern SS, but if Ozzie Smith is in the HOF, Dave should be too. Very similar plate stats.
Pat Burrell he was part of the Phillies team that won 2008 World Series vs Ray’s, he started out at 1b then he was moved to the outfield. He’s a 2 time World Champion 2008 (Phillies) 2010 (SF Giant’s) he retired at age 34 because of foot plantar fasciitis.
"Gloss," "KNOB-lock," "APE-e-er," "SAY-zar se-DAYN-yo." Please do some research regarding name pronunciations. There are so many old games featuring these guys. Just watch some.
Magglio Ordonez Dennis Martinez Mark Buehrle Will Clark Mark Grace Carlos Delgado Matt Williams Ron Guidry Garrett Anderson Bret Saberhagen Jose Cruz Sr Keith Hernandez
When the Cardinals won the World Series in 1985, Cedeno was picked up mid season and hit well over .400 the rest of the season. Leading the charge to WS victory. His WS stats were weak, but I think he was injured.
I’m throwing out the name of 1B Wally Joyner Talk about a forgotten Ball Player He could swing it Major underrated was 1B Hall Morris That slow turd could RAKE He could really swing the bat and hit for avg. a lot like Wally Reminds of old Will The Thrill Clark What a hitter that 1B was He doesn’t get His Greatness remembered like it should Be . Mattingly Clark Wally Grace Hall Those Dudes could Hit Pure lefty hitters No juice Just bat on ball & Ball where wants
leo durocher said of cedeno if he put his attitude in his back pocket he could revolutionize his position. sounds like old ceser had an attitude problem.
There needs to be multiple levels of the HoF. A lower vaulted extension should be built encircling current Hall so we can have a literal inner and outer circle to accommodate the different levels of superstar that should never be forgotten
Barry Bonds needs to be in the HOF. He was a hall of famer before he “allegedly” started using steroids. He was the best hitter in the history of baseball. Pitchers feared him like they feared God. You can’t tell the story of baseball without Bonds!
Here's what I don't like about the whole Bonds thing. He supposedly started taking steroids in what, '98 ? Look up his stats from '86-'97 and '98-'07. He posted much better numbers from '98-'07. When he was 33-42. Who does that ? The steroid use obviously improved his game. Even if it was as simple as faster recovery. Kind of disappointing that a guy that good would cheat.
There should be a "steroid" wing of the HOF, that chronicles and collects [1995-2005] and acknowledges that (steroids or not) these are "some of the greatest players to step on a diamond, BUT." I guess you could call it the Asterisk Room.
@@RealJeffTidwell A similar idea was proposed for Negro League players, which Satchel Paige responded "I was just as good as the white boys. I ain't going in the back door of the Hall of Fame."
