These phones now make zero sense. 

The gacha games are out of control

Yeah. If you only pay attention to those types of games...

@@TonyJenn sadly there are some ports and emulation but that's it ...native android gaming is just bad

That's why I only play emulators, most native mobile phone games suck, but android emulation is at an all time peak (minus what happened to yuzu recently)

This is such a sad reality.

You can buy a whole PS5/Series X/Switch and a budget phone with a good camera for the same price too lol... Gaming phones dont make any sense at all.

Next time I’m buying a phone it’s gonna be something budget and repairable. Save the money for a Switch 2 and a steam deck. Phone games haven’t been interesting in a decade. Blowing $2k every five years on phones that ALWAYS die or break in some unforeseen way. Like the SoC becomes useless. Or the touchscreen stops working properly. Why is glass on both sides? Use plastic on the back it’s lighter. I’m completely over form over function design.

Go search up redmagic 9pro and see for yourself if hes worth more then tue s24 design wise

@@ektasix*display not included

@@yatokuwastaken it still would be less than the latest rog phone lmao.

Samsung did something like this with their S23 Ultra Gaming Bundle thing that came with Backbone controller

That completely defeats the purpose of a gaming phone. If you have to bring a controller along (or really even the cooler attachment stuff) then the whole portable on the go aspect goes out the window It does make sense maybe to justify the price of the things if you get one bundled in the box, I guess

only thing is that there barely any good games on mobile, so it makes 0 sense

ROG Phones have their own dedicated controllers, though I don't know any variant that has it bundled in.

Rog phones also have that bundle it's kinda cool but that's far they can get. Since big AAA devs won't make a exclusive games from phones.

yup and especially when normal phones play the same games at a very similar performance level

they never made sense 'cause you never had proper games to play.

They make as much sense as someone getting a minivan to daily commute alone to work. In other words if you aren't planning on using your phone for games then don't get a gaming phone. It's a tool for a specific job.

​@@reyashvishwa?

@@gradient5319 *used had instead of made. gaming is entertaining to most people when it comes to Triple A titles that aren't made available to mobile platforms.

Facts I have a telescoping controller but I only use it for emulators like PS2 , GameCube, snes and old school mame. Until android gets current triple a console releases like iOS is getting mobile gaming is nothing without emulation

My S20 can run any emulator I throw at it flawlessly.

Tell that to CODm & PUBG players

The switch makes 100% sense. He added _largely_

True but its the biggest market gaming wise. They make a lot of money with mtx and in app purchases. Not to mention the quick ease of use. Plenty of people in third world countries can't afford a PC or console use phones to play games like PUBG mobile. I myself have a Oneplus 8T and use it for phone activities and have a AYN Odin 2 for gaming...that too only Android games without ads/in app purchases and emulation.

I switched from Asus to Redmagic and don't regret it

@@cameronb4099I switched from iPhone 15 to Galaxy s4. I don’t regret it.

Gaming headsets can be justified by almost zero latency, chairs on the other hand...

Biggest 🧢 I've seen ​@@Dream-Eternal87

@@Everett... to be honest, what wired headsets even have latency?

I use $80 "retro" S20FE (got it used) and it can serve as mini tablet, retro console with emulators, decent camera that I always have on me. Feel no need to spend more as it does whatever I want it to do, but you know, people like splashing on gadgets and flexing with latest and greatest toys.

I dislike seeing my phone being faster than my working computer, so $300 phone and $700 gaming laptop it is

Yeah I've similar thought 1 iPhone for work, 1 Android tablet or smartphone for media + gaming, 1 gaming PC (laptop or desktop) for all rounder purpose gaming, work, entertainment, etc

​@@BeaneChunznice choice

iPhone will be my go out - take everywhere, daily driver phone, 2 gens older vannila variant will be a value for money I mostly play COD Mobile, some racing games like A8 A9, some strategy games like CoC on my phone, so yeah 400$ Android phone will be enough for playing these at home I'm a big fan of GTA & other AAA PC games so I won't go low budget on gaming PC, i will happily spend more on a future proof PC

so u are telling me modern phones can run games like csgo and valorant and other PC gams

​@@jmgonzales7701for quite sometime yes, even without proper port and rely only to emulation many pc games runs well on android. i currently playing ac revelations on winlator

​@@jmgonzales7701yes

​@@jmgonzales7701Yes

@@jmgonzales7701 if they're willing to port it then yes. But porting it from X86 to ARM takes considerable amount of work and testing.

I never understood why Sony didnt take advantage of the xperia play concept. Like if they wanted to compete in the handheld market again its one way for them being unique, making a phone and PSP like hybrid.

For me, I do it at 7AM when I am supposed to go to work.

lol

Insomnia gaming

Thank you!

It's only passable with certain types of games. Good for jRPGs and tactical games. Otherwise, you need a backbone style controller.

True af.

"Those phones never made sense" okay. "dumb to buy a phone for gaming" that sound dumb. I bought a $80 used Android and played tons of games, with my Gamesir controller.

If devs start utilizing the mobile platform to make legit game ports/versions, we could see a reason for such a thing. Phones already support controllers as well as display to external monitors, which means they’d work perfect for gaming casually. The mobile game scene needs to grow and there’s no doubt it will once the money-hungry companies’ products get snuffed out by actual quality. Imagine being able to play a AAA title, something like Zelda Totk, on your phone instead of having to buy an entire game console/PC! There is simply too much potential for it to not be utilized at some point.

I never understood why Sony didnt take advantage of the xperia play concept. Like if they wanted to compete in the handheld market again its one way for them being unique, making a phone and PSP like hybrid.

@@_spineless I never understood why Sony didnt take advantage of the xperia play concept. Like if they wanted to compete in the handheld market again its one way for them being unique, making a phone and PSP like hybrid. Like gaming companies can even make spin off exclusives for phones like what companies did for nitnento and PSP before.

@@jmgonzales7701 The Xperia play came out at a time when phones were only just starting to become mainstream and Sony already had the PSP to sell at the time so it kinda makes sense they didn't push the concept further even though they probably could have. Sony could totally start a mobile gaming revolution right now if they made an effort to get their games on mobile devices along with consoles and PCs, since phones are much more prevalent now, but it would be a pretty big decision on their part for multiple reasons. I think that in order to get a true mobile gaming comeback we need SOME major company to push it, like Meta is doing with VR gaming. Sony could hire game studios specifically for developing mobile versions/ports of their titles (like they probably did with Resident Evil on IPhone) and i'm sure that would cause people to buy and play their games more if they did. However, I think it would be a rock and a hard place for Sony on the hardware side because the phones that people use already are not hyperfocused on performance like the game consoles/handhelds that Sony would want to make, thus forcing Sony to either not create a phone at all or to insert themselves into that part of the market at the same time by creating a very solid phone themselves which would be a whole other can of worms. They COULD also create an android-based handheld made to play the mobile versions of these games better than almost any phone on the market and that could appeal to people, but at that point it's not even phone gaming, it's handheld gaming and the phone hardware would catch up in a few years! It would truly be awesome to see Sony do something like this but i guess only time would tell. Their best option is probably creating a fairly compact handheld that can very comfortably play the "mobile" versions of their game ports at high resolutions and then be like "surprise! You can use your phone to play these games too, they just wont be as good on there compared to the Sony Handheld!" Either that happens, or some REALLY good game comes out on mobile that people are all wanting to play and causes more devs to want to make games on there too, kickstarting quality mobile gaming. I really want to see an indie dev team or even AAA studio create a truly console-level experience for everyone on mobile so something like this can happen.

Mobile games are ass

​​@@ronaldmcdonald6067yes that's true, but I think the reason it's popular around here because people rarely have their own pc or laptop, and obviously people will have phone so that's why it's more popular and probably most of player are teenager or kids

True, most of these tech channels are western oriented. They're oblivious to the other side of the world.

@@novacraft257 Yup. Southeast Asian here. PC games aren't that popular here. Sure there are people who play them, but so many more people play mobile games. It's much more affordable to buy a decent enough phone that can game once in a while than a decent enough PC/laptop.

Also these games are free to play, with mostly negligible microtransactions for casuals (and pros if it's purely cosmetic)

It's all about emulation. You can play every console up to PS2 and even Switch technically. All in the palm of your hand. Crazy.

@@theantil7 psvita too

Google needs to do something similar like how Apple did by reaching triple A developers to bring their games on iOS.

@@Lazar-ox5bd you have a good guide on how to emulate the Vita? I find it to be super finnicky

@@theantil7 mr.Sujano has one, though I stopped using it because my previous phone was a redmi note 10s (didn't work well) but now i got a note 13pro+

Genshin is okay (good if you place a single player, garbage if you want decent multiplayer). The problem that is that it's a gacha game, and it requires an internet connection. What people were expecting is games on part of the DS or the PSP, instead we got gambling disguised as a game. Sometimes the games are good (Genshin, Star Rail, from what I hear also punishing grey raven etc). But it's all just gacha shit. There are no good games in the traditional sense. That's why people will laugh at you if you say you're a gamer, but you only play on the phone. Because the quality of games is just garbage, except for ports, emulation and gacha. There's nothing wrong with expecting GTA, as long as people don't also expect GTA v graphics? (Don't arguably that could also be possible...). The PSP had Voice City Stories. Was a decade ago. Pretty sure we can do better than gambling and my micro transactions, companies just don't want to

@@m.2383 yeah, I was talking about genshin is unfortunately just another gacha-type of loot box gambling kind of game that only frustrates anyone willing to giving mobile gaming a go, especially with a cesspool of microtransactions that attack vulnerable young gamers as well.

This. Also if you're into Insta 360 cameras, on phone video editing is extremely resource heavy. Phones with dedicated cooling can handle it without thermal throttling. If you're sad about missing SD cards check out the 'Hagibis Magnetic M.2 2230 NVMe SSD Enclosure' for a cool alternative. It kinda matches the 9 Pro Snowfall coloring.

Do you know if red magic 9 accept MetroPCS

Had a Redmagic 8pro. Returned it for a ROG 7. I do think the Redmagic 9pro beats the ROG 8 though. I'm probably going to get an Experia Mark VII if Sony still keeps the SD card slot when I'm done with my ROG 7. Though Redmagic might nab me if they advance enough in that timeframe. Unfortunately ASUS is moving backwards. The ROG 8 compromises too much.

​@@RhomagusHad my red magic 8 pro for a year now and it's excellent for me

@@bristlesthistles I just really wish it had two USB-C ports. Otherwise it ticks all the boxes for me.

I could see the coming x64-86 to ARM translation layer being huge for phone gaming, as it would make phones capable of running desktop games similar to how Deck plays Windows games. I'd be down for that, I mostly play indies on Deck But yeah. Phones are still phones, they can't compete with a console for some time still, and are limited in performance and comfort

​@@signe_stilett Yeah, a smartphone or tablet being able to run almost natively like an x64-86 gaming computer is the endgame. As soon as smartphones can run basically any modern PC game at good performance, portable PCs handhelds like the Steam Deck will become obsolete (and so will x64-86 gaming laptops, for that matter). Also, a lot of gaming smart phones in the past lacked a good built in cooling system. Phones like the Red Magic 8-9 solves this. Overall, this niche market is young, and the hardware and software are not quite there yet. So, basically Gaming phones are just starting to get good and are simply ahead of their time.

maybe games like csgo and valorant can be run with modern phones

Let's not forget older Android games just dissapear from playstore like flies, and even with an apk and data you probably will have compatibility issues

​@@kael070Android 14 has started refusing to let you download apks of games that existed Android 6 or below. The only way you can get them onto your device now is through ADB

Even then, the "heavy video editing" can be made much better and smoother than any phone out there with a $700 PC (laptop or desktop it doesn't matter). As long as you know what you're looking for, a $400 phone and a $700 PC is all what people need, and for the same price as this pointless phone.

Not all gaming phones are irrelevant. Currently the best phones for gaming are Samsung and red magic because of Samsung Dex and red magic console mode. Other phones do not have similar functionalities. But, when ordinary phones will start bringing console modes, then gaming phones would make no sense.

Modern iPhones do pretty well with gaming, I play all the demanding titles on my iPhone with 90hz - 120hz and mid to high graphics without issues

Yeah only you Indians are into "mobile gaming" because you cannot afford a gaming PC

Indians are not south east Asian

@@voidninja9134 South Asia* thanks

So, if there's no gaming phones, and you get a cheap midrange and invest the money for a more powerful gaming experience... wouldn't that be better?

@@karlos777x mid range phones are actually the most common but investing that kind of money just to game is only for a few lucky people. Sure you can get a pc, but to build a half decent one it can actually cost north of $2000 due to taxes. Plus all your friends play mobile games too so there isn’t a good reason to get a console which can only game.

Honestly not a fan of the FE series since some of the budget cuts are pretty bad, like the S23FE is bad.

​@@ronaldmcdonald6067 The S23 FE is the worst FE yet since it uses the previous year Exynos 2200 or the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 chip that were used in the S22 instead of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 that was used globally in the S23. However the S21 FE (which is the one I own) uses the Snapdragon 888, which was the same chip as the rest of the S21. In fact, in the EU they used the Exynos 2100 for the S21 lineup but for the S21 FE we got the Snapdragon 888 which was a bit better. So, in that regard the S21 FE was actually a slight upgrade over the S21/S21+/S21 Ultra. The S20 FE (the first of its kind) also followed this formula. The only really bad thing about the S21 FE was the fact that it was released a bit too late compared to the S20 FE.

​@@ronaldmcdonald6067s20 fe and s21 fe were good. Also had better screen to body ratio than s23 fe. You couldnt tell the difference with the fe and the normal ones. But nowdays is clear as day.

The FE series is great, but the s23 FE is dogshit.

Got a galaxy S10 plus for $250 Can play every mobile game and emulation out there

Abandoning their Kunai controller was such a stupid decision.

The only saving grace for gaming phones are ports and headphone jacks would love if they add SD card but yeah good thing Red Magic is still considered true gaming phone since it has a fan inside full screen display, 3.5mm jack passthrough charging and other stuff..

The newer red magic phones are great and also half the price of the Asus Rog

the fact that they ruined the cameras and the software longevity is what makes gaming phones look dumb and stupid

They have their place it's just a niche market

Depends on the audience. Sometimes a dad doesn't have hours to chill at home, but might be able to have a quick 45 mins of RE4 while waiting for his son's swimming lesson. It might not be for you now, but one day you might understand; keep an open mind ^_^

There were good mobile games before. But gameloft gave up.

for some they want the portability of the phone.

They shouldn't be like that. Mobile gaming could be so much more but the current landscape is just greedy and over casualised generic games.

As a person who bought a newer red magic phone the gaming features are absolutely useful for mobile gaming in games like codm. And I didn't pay a premium because the red magic is half the price of the Asus Rog phone

They are useful for competitive gamers like cod mobile

Red magic 9 pro has a headphone jack while being half the price of the rog 8

@@bristlesthistles Yes you are right however Red Magic has a shi*t* camera which I also value. As I've said I'll be using this as a regular phone and not for gaming.

do you mean Hill Climb 2?

@@AbdulKaderZilany1 thank you!

​@@samuelsspelwelcome

Imagine paying that much for a chinese gaming phone when 99% of the mobile games out there are pure ass... could have bought a decent gaming laptop and play real games instead of your redmagic bullshit lmao! And how about comparing the camera quality of your shitmagic to a Samsung or an iPhone? Phone cameras are important if you want to capture memories, but your phone is just good at being useless!

And also let's talk about how many software updates your phone is getting. I bet it's gonna be outdated in two years 😂

That looks like a good deal and 512 gb is a good size, overall. I have been considering only phones with an SD card slot but I may have to give Red Magic another look. The guy above is right that they only do 2 years of updates, though, and I plan on having it longer than that so that is definetly a con. I am just wondering how much of a con that really is.

​@@ronaldmcdonald6067gaming laptop is really heavy. Also, carrying both gaming handheld and a phone is pretty complicated when you city public transit are crammed like sardine can. You'll see that mobile gaming are big particularly in Asia.

16gb of ram and 512gb is useless when you'll only get 2 major updates with it 💀 the only good thing about red magic is the screen the rest of it, kinda mid ngl and mobile gaming doesn't need that much ram to run as minimum as 6gb is considered as flawless... what matters is the processor

red magic 9 pro is really good and half the price of the rog phone 8

Lol that's true I'm sure you can run jetpack joyride on a potato.

Emulation? A normal flagship phone, even an older one would be able to do emulation

@@broskibrobro1278 Yeah but higher end emulators like PS2, Switch and Gamecube and Wii are harder to run on older/normal phones.

I never understood why Sony didnt take advantage of the xperia play concept. Like if they wanted to compete in the handheld market again its one way for them being unique, making a phone and PSP like hybrid.

Sad reality

East Asia has different opinions.

not everyone has the time to sit on a desk and play all day long

@@beatspopoThen don’t? I have 4 portable game systems and they’re all great

​@@beatspopo portable pc or console like deck or switch exist you know. Better value than any gaming phone, and you can use it literally anywhere.

As someone who's bought a newer red magic phone, I can tell you they are useful and have a niche for gaming in situations like cod mobile. It also helps that the red magic is half the price of the Asus Rog

Handhelds are more compact than phones. A lot of them have smaller screens. My Retroid Pocket 2S is a lot smaller than my Oneplus 8T.

You can.. Just emulate it. Also soon Playstore Games will be available for Linux and Windows (it's already in beta).

@@asandax6only windows has play games. Though you can use an emulator you will be banned.

Try waydroid

Why would you play cod mobile when there’s better games out there

​@@broskibrobro1278Cod mobile is arguably the best cod game multiplayer wise in the past 5 years, it's for sure better than MW3

Yeah I don't care about my camera that much

most people cant afford an expensive gaming phone anyways dummy

In that case, "most of the world" would not buy a gaming phone. They're even more expensive outside first world. For example: RedMagic 9 Pro in Colombia cost around 1050$ meanwhile in the US is 650$

The point still stands. What the video is saying is "gaming phones" are not justified anymore. You are either hard core or casual portable gamer. And in either situation, A gaming phone is of no use no more.

​@@NiceDayToDieJLRed magic 9 pro is £570 in the UK

​@@dogwithoutwI can assure you gaming phones are still useful. I speak from experience as a competitive codm player

Red magic 9 pro is half the price of the Asus Rog 8

Yeah I play competitive codm on a new red magic phone

Still you're only getting half the frame rate + your battery will drain insanely fast if you push both CPU and GPU at the same time like emulators do

@@luluthecat1570 i said in the "next few years" of course it's an early development it will never be perfect. If you are knowledgeable enough about tech industry, big tech companies like Nvidia , AMD , and Apple are now investing in ARM technology as it is getting more powerful that can rival x86 in the future.

I disagree, you can still get a proper flagship phone with proper cooling system, attach a $10 AliExpress vc cooler and you got yourself a proper phone with proper specs and proper gaming performance.

​@@SanGraphicRed magic 9 pro is half the price as the Asus Rog while being just as good and has built in cooling fan which would work better than an AliExpress external cooler

yes when gaming phones were half the cost of a flagship and samsung had shitty software and exynos to back it up.

@@afthabon9417 so like before the galaxy S7? I didnt even have a phone back then.

@@RiqMoran nah the era of samsung s8-s20

Red magic 9 pro still has unmatched performance to price ratio. Flagship specs for only half the price of the S24Ultra or Asus Rog 8, only downside is camera

yep

Lol I am all about PC gaming but get real...mobile gaming dominates the market.

@@Unicornpirate that's true. But even millions flies can't convince me that sh*t is delicious

​@@Just_want_to_be_happyit is delicious to that company and it's a fact still, they're making more money with mobile games than most consoles/pc games combined because of MTX it's like an easy money generator because it is a continuous support, no yearly releases, no struggle for the team to make a new game every year as a franchise

​@@Just_want_to_be_happyThere are some good mobile games, I play codm competitively for example. But yeah 99% are garbage microtransactions casual slop

yep

Sadly the oneplus 12 price went up 😢

I never understood why Sony didnt take advantage of the xperia play concept. Like if they wanted to compete in the handheld market again its one way for them being unique, making a phone and PSP like hybrid.

@@jmgonzales7701 Agree.

Red magic has fan cooling

I think it is mudrunner or may be the new one expedition.

No one wants to invest in a business that is worse than the PC/Console market. I'm pretty sure the majority of people that "game" on their phones, wouldn't want to pay 69$ for a new AAA title. Most people are already too used to free stuff or extremely cheap stuff. Also, do you really think people would prefer spending that much money to game on something that has a small display, touch controls, heating problems, etc...

@@ektasix I mean the market is there. That's why they keep releasing gaming phones like the Asus rog phones for example. Something has to stick else they wouldn't be releasing model after model. I originally intended to say: make a gaming phone and just slap a thin slide out keyboard on it. That would be very neat.

​@@ektasixThere is absolutely a market for mobile gaming and the potential is there it just gets ruined by greedy trash mobile games. Also phones like the red magic are half the price of the Asus Rog while being arguably better and they have built in cooling fans so they don't overheat. Touch controls are actually better for some games than controllers such as shooter games.

Yeah I own a new one myself and it's arguably better than the newer Rog phones while being half the price