So my complete stock DJI Fpv makes over 140kmh in manual mode. Why says everyone on RU-vid it will be faster with Master Airscrew and in every Video I can see its a little slower then stock? I will buy this prop set but I really don't understand why everyone is saying it will be faster and then shows a Video with the props and its slower. Makes no sense to me. 🧐
It seems almost certain that your manual speed comparisons are inaccurate. Obviously the low battery warning you got while doing the stock test was a limiting factor on the speed, plus you flew it at different altitudes, and when you're that close to the ground, small differences like 5 meters can mean a noticable difference in windspeed, wind direction, air temperature, and air pressure (in the afternoon, the air close to the ground gets additional radiant heat from the earth, lowering air density and decreasing thrust power) - however most of the difference here I imagine is a result of the low battery (and possibly wind speed/direction). There's no way that the 25% additional speed you saw was an accurate representation of performance improvement from the propellers, when MAS was only able to achieve an 11% increase - and that test would have been conducted indoors in some warehouse with minimal variables, and they would have made sure the test conditions were as optimized as possible for their blades. A real world figure should show an increase of slightly less than 11%, not more than double that. They want to advertise the highest figures possible, so if it wasn't possible for them to get more than 11% gain, that means your test is clearly inaccurate, I'm sorry to say. The props look great though, and I'm sure they provide some benefit. I did laugh at your comment about it being too late if you see the increased visibility of the blade though. And I guess we couldn't see your observer because they were sitting inside the truck? 😉
I think the test in manual mode with the DJI props needs to be done again. The almost dead battery was limiting your speed. Should be able to go way faster than 66 mph with the stock props in manual.
Yes that and he was not at an optimal angle for forward high speed flight. I get mine up in the 80mph+ zone with the stock props. It should technically be able to hit 87mph I believe. The problem was probably both battery sag and pilot technique but certainly the pitch angel flown was the main problem. That is just way too slow. I wouldn't doubt those Master Airscrew props would get closer to 100mph.
Agreed. I've hit 90mph on stock props and something like 96mph with a bit of a downward angle but not a full dive. I think he could have pitched way further forward. Also one burst doesn't kill the battery for mine, although he is in a colder climate so that might have something to do with the drain.
Man the way you are acting when it hit almost 32 second was as if you were hitting 120 miles an hour or something. Like... This drone is capable of doing almost 90 out-of-the-box. And I've seen some people on a windy day taking it out and getting over a hundred miles an hour with a Tailwind. I don't think these props made your unit scream at all😢
It’s capable of those speeds with the camera angle at 45 but no one wants to fly it like that If it’s doing 80 with a camera angle of 20 then that’s a major improvement
So yeah I just flew and actually looked at my speed and was routinely hitting 90mph peak and mid to high 80's sustained. That's not in a dive on stock props just flying with a lot more angle. Like the video besides that result though, appreciate the edit.
What he meant to say about his brightly colored skin is he keeps a brightly colored skin on it because, in case he crashes it, he needs to be able to find all the pieces😂
They made my drone crash. They overloaded my motors making the aircraft to emergency brake and then tumbling out the sky straight into the ground ripping off my forward motor 😢
I don’t know anyone that flies FPV around here. (Southeast michigan) Hobby Shops around here mostly support airplanes. There is only one that sells stuff for any drones and they don’t know much about drones.
many of reviews in amazon including my friend suffer because of this propeller, its going to crack in the second flight, you should not endorse this products
yea I'm suspect of those videos.. its like the same one or two videos everywhere but mainly amazon, weird.. the reviews everywhere else are great!.. MAS props are unforgiving, you crash or bump into something and they will snap but I feel it just makes me a better pilot.. I know many new pilots who installed props wrong and crashed when attempting to fly. I've snapped two pairs of original MAS props so far, my current MAS + props are still going strong! (fingers crossed).. if they go grenade on me I'll be quick to let everyone know!
Hey there Cap! What happened on the last test because with stock props we know the FPV achieves at minimum 87 mph and I’ve had mine very close to 100…… also In my testing the old ones and these new ones make so little difference you can’t tell….. So I just use the stock props because nothing beats them honestly.
There is no way the stock props go 100 mph in a straight line. There was next to no wind on the day of the test and the results from the stock props are real. Your results appear to be either in a dive or with a tail wind. Keep in mind that if DJI publishes numbers for range, speed and flight time, there are few people on the planet that ever achieve what DJI publishes. Same is true for the published fuel mileage on your car… you’ll never achieve it.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 yea it was from a dive and tail wind lol BUT on a normal day I can achieve 85-87 mph with ease….. but to get that 100 I have to have certain conditions right. I just felt your result seemed slow in manual mode is all. Your content is A++ tho and I really enjoy your channel so thank you!
Many thanks for sharing Captain; oddly, the takeaway for me was not so much the differences between the props but more on should I bite the bullet and get the DJI FPV Drone !!!; I think ............yes and put a toe in the water !!!! (PS, any update on the Spark retrospective !)
I bought the DJI fpv combo and then the avata separately so I’d have the fpv controller 2 in my combo rather than the wanker and it came out to basically the same price as the avata combo except I have two quads and the controller I actually wanted along with the v2 goggles.
I would have jumped on a set if they had done a translucent red. I have the original red props from MAS and really like them. My drone skin is a solid red, so I will stick with the set I got originally. I'm waiting to see what MAS are going to come up with for the Avata, ( I did get the Drone Tech orange props for the Avata and have had good results with those ) Anyhow good review ! Cheers from Utah.
I have no idea. MAS will normally launch a prop product and then respond to users comments. If they are too expensive, then they make a less expensive version. If they break too easy, then they change the materials used, etc.
Interesting. Might try them out. What camera angle did you use in manual? Was it the same on both M mode flights? The normal props should go 140 km/h and I saw them do it.
Everything was default. When you switch to M mode, the camera angle automatically points upwards as you then tilt the drone at a 45 degree angle to fly forward.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 I know this, it’s just to get an idea of how much more efficient these props are compared to DJI’s, to fly a hover is a way of having the same test conditions. flying tricks in manual mode can’t be repeated in exactly the same way unless a computer is flying both tests exactly the same?..🤔
@James Ray I thought the dji combo was rated at 98mph in manual mode top speed in a parallel line with horizon. No dive nothing .I have seen people peak 94 mph with it on a flat plane. And using Mas props. But they sanded the props to be a bit more perfect and have better edges to cut with. But also zero accessories on the drone and a brand new battery only the 3rd run on it .
@@maddmavic That may be what they write on paper. But top speed of any aircraft is always going to be adjusted to the altitude that the flight takes place that the weather et cetera et cetera That may be what they write on paper. But top speed of any aircraft is always going to be adjusted to the altitude that the flight takes place that the weather et cetera et cetera. The fastest I can maintain is about 80 to 88. The 2 places I mostly fly in are Albuquerque New Mexico and El Paso Texas. High in altitude above sea level. And trust me to keep up with the EDFs that I Chase I try and squeeze every ounce of speed I can. It would seem they don't know how to slow down. Lol
do they make the propwash go away for the most part? i know i felt some of the shaking translate to the video. dont know if you noticed that. just was not sure how they do with flips and stuff as the original props have caused some crashes due to propwash for other pilots who reviewed it
Just had My first little accident with my DJI fpv and scrapped up a few props. Between that and my cat chewing on the other good props I needed new ones. So perfect timing for me because I needed new props. Going to buy some of these props. Do these come with directions on how they go on? Because I see they don’t have the little colors in the center to know what prop goes where.
I honestly think this is the cause to the few people claiming they had a catastrophic failure while flying with MAS props. I've been using Master Air Screws since I got my Dji Fpv, never even tried the OEM props. I've crashed two sets of props due to human error and currently on my third set. Some people recommend GemFan but I love the quick release function of the MAS and Original Dji props and don't care for the extra weight of the adapters needed for Gemfan's.@@CAPTAINDRONE798
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 yeah I think 62 is fast enough for me. This drone is amazing for getting aerial views of a .5 mile radius (with a spotter of course ) 😎
yea I'm suspect of those videos.. its like the same two videos everywhere but mainly amazon, weird.. my plus props are screaming and shredding just fine. the only thing is that MAS props are unforgiving, you crash or bump into something and they will snap but I feel it just makes me a better pilot.. I've snapped two pairs of original MAS props so far, my current MAS + props are still going strong! (fingers crossed)
I bought the master air screw propellers put them on my drone. After about one weeks of flying, I went out to fly today got up to about 200 ft I felt a shutter on my DJI FPV drone, I turned around came back down to about 2 feet all of a sudden it quaked again for a seconds then all of a sudden it started flying backwards really fast, three rear propeller blades had broken off two blades on one propeller one blade on the other I try to land, and immediately it hit the ground, on inspection one of the three connecting clips that hold the propellers to the motor that broke off I could see the little red piece of plastic in the motor so I picked it out ,and probably caused the propeller blade to break and hit the other propeller, which broke two blades on that propeller when my drone hit the ground, The battery popped out, broke the brace I installed that stabilize the arms No damage to my drone no thanks to master air screwed
Same thing here except it was the 1st flight with 1 power loop. I noticed the shudder, landed it it, and the "tab feet" that hold the prop on just fell off. I got lucky.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 isn't prop wash the same as settling with power/ vortex ring state or something different? With vrs you get out of it by pulling less power and moving forward/ backwards/ sideways out of the unsettled air (I'm a full scale helicopter pilot) or with drones is drone prop wash a term for something else? (I'm used to them being called rotors..props are for fixed wing in full scale at least).. I'm slightly confused as vrs will happen with any helicopter and drone no matter how heavy but I guess more noticeable the heavier the aircraft. Another youtuber recommended the spitfire props for reducing prop wash though don't know how valid this is
@@justinspirational In the hobby, with a quad, prop wash will occur if you attempt to quickly do a 180 (speed massively reduced, then increased) or if you are descending quickly and then suddenly apply power to move forward or backwards. The flight control is what is keeping the 4 motors in sync to ensure the quad is maintaining your desired pitch, thus each motor spins up and down many times per second so in the above situations the process of maintaining lift and not stalling is causing the prop wash. Well balanced pro quads handle this without issue but super heavy bulky designed drones like the DJI FPV will get prop wash. Certainty the prop angle of pitch helps but only to a certain degree.
Great video Cap. I just started learning about the different prop designs. I bought some off of GETFPV for my Flywoo Firefly 1s. Trying out 3 blades design on it and bought some prop guards. The Prop guards save me so many times. lol. You're so right about making drones as bright as possible. I bought lime green props and lime green prop guards. So that I could find and see this little drone when, not if, I crashed it. Again, its thanks to your videos I'm up and flying this drone almost daily if it's not windy. I fly at least 4 battery packs each time. Still learning and have a long way to go but I'm having fun doing it. Thats what matters.
Vifly sells a self powered small but loud beeper that is worth its weight in gold as well. Has saved many drones for me that would otherwise have been lost. It works even if the battery is disconnected or ejected.
@@kurtzFPV Thanks for info. I'm still brand new to this hobby. I'm really enjoying it. When I first started messing around with drones this year. I didn't know that there was such a big learning curve between the toy drones and the more professional drones. All the software(betaflight), and programing involved I wasn't expecting that. I tell you what. It's alot to absorb for a beginner. And without these videos from people like CAP. If you don't have a friend teaching you personally, it is not an easy hobby to just jump into. Hell, I couldn't even get my first new RTF drone to bind with my new Radiomaster Zorro. They make it sound so easy, just turn it on and fly. Lmao. It was so frustrating. I had to learn all about how to program the controller. Lol. Thanks to Caps video I was able to do it. It's fun once you do understand and learn this stuff. They are fun to fly. BUT, It's just the learning curve is steep, and you have to have some patience. For me I normally don't have patience. lol. But I was set on learning this new extremely fun hobby. So if I can learn this stuff and get them flying so can you. GET UP, GET OUT THERE AND HAVE FUN FLYING.. THANKS CAP.
@@user-wt6kg7kp5v Yes, definitely a learning curve but super rewarding. I've been at FPV stuff seriously for a little less than 2 years now. I now have a full workstation set up in my house for building and repair. I don't enjoy the building and repair as much as the flying, but still find it very enjoyable. Keep at it, and keep having fun.