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These Rankings Are TERRIBLE | Loki's Plan Revealed? | Blue Lock 246 Review 

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Idk man if it were up to me Barou's definitely top 2
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@THED3ADLY7
@THED3ADLY7 9 месяцев назад
Hot take: I think the ranking system makes sense. If you look at the perspective of someone watching and wants a good player, if a player is consistent then their value will increase rapidly at first then reach a plateau like Kaiser who had a 300 or so million bid for awhile. The bidding system is more based around the evolution of the Blue Lock players and the more that is shown of that evolution the higher their bid until they eventually plateau like Kaiser. If they have nothing new to show off their value will stay consistent or drop depending on if they win or lose the match. If they something new to show off, regardless of win or not they’ll get a higher bid because it’s expected that this new thing they showed will be the norm. This is where Nagi keeps dropping because he hasn’t shown a goal like the one in his Bastard München match. His miracle goal isn’t the norm so his value was overestimated.
@derickwhitaker9196
@derickwhitaker9196 9 месяцев назад
I agree, people need to also realize that these big teams aren’t just going to keep on throwing money at these players for something they’ve already seen, hence Rin only going up 12 mil instead of the “expected” 30 mil. The ranking were never “consistent” cuz if they were then Kaiser himself would have way more than what he has now
@masgrande95
@masgrande95 9 месяцев назад
Even if we follow this explanation Barou and Bachira still got robbed. Their bids are increasing so they aren't in Kaiser case. The value of their performance in each game should stay consistent if they have nothing new to show, then Barou and Bachira having the value of their goal decreasing makes no sense. Barou received 100 millions for his hattrick in his first match, that means that the average goal of Barou shoei is worth 33 millions, that value shouldn't be higher or lower, it should be consistent but since the BM game they decreased the value of his goals like crazy, he basically had 15 millions of each goals against BM , one of those goals was a double nutmeg goal, something completely, new but he only got 15 millions for it. And against manshine he scored 2 goals and got 10 millions for each that doesn't make any sense. Bachira is another example, he score d one goal in each game he was in, and aiways received around 30 millions for these goal but now suddently he gets 13 millions for this one that doesn't make any sense.
@anastasishatzakis5752
@anastasishatzakis5752 9 месяцев назад
⁠@@masgrande95Firstly, I want to mention that I almost fully agree with OP’s take. As for everyone saying that goals are what matter most, thus Barou should be getting way higher evaluations, context matters. Barou is being spoon fed for one, playing half the time Rin is playing, and not fighting a civil war with a NG11 striker, so of course even if his goal numbers are better, his individual ability is not. Plus, goals and generally striker orinted things are just valued at a premium, they’re not all that counts. Hence why Aiku, a defender can get 60 mil. The reason strikers are valued as a premium is because that’s what the clubs came to Blue Lock looking for, as they were a striker program. However, we have players like what Isagi was doing for Manshine and Ubers which is dominating in every aspect of the game. While as a striker, he doesn’t outperform Barou in terms of goals (let’s forget the context of said goals that I mentioned earlier to make this point even more clear), he outperforms him in defence, playmaking and almost every aspect of the game, so of course his value is going to be high. I also want to mention that currently, the clubs can only judge the players based on U20 and the NEL, and maybe the Blue Lock footage if that has been given to them. That’s not a lot to place a solid bid on. Like Nagi’s five-shot, they want to see what the player can do on a consistent basis, not just once in ten matches. So, in the beginning, they were putting conservative bids, like we saw in the first match. Then, in the second and third matches, they’re starting to majorly up the ante as players are not only evolving, but showing that they can do what they can do consistently (not looking at you Nagi), so they’re putting money more in line with what they actually think the player is worth, only to finalise that with the final bid, as they have a proper idea of what the player can do. And that’s why Rin got a much lower increase than before, that’s why Barou got a lower increase than before, that’s why Bachira got a lower increase. As for the reason Kaiser’s value doesn’t increase much, it’s just because clubs know him very well as a player so his worth to them is a known factor, that excluding evolutions, won’t change all that much). There are two final things I want to note. First up, according to what I said right now, it’s not that Nagi’s five shot was only worth 88 million, it’s that the (relatively) conservative estimate for if he could do that consistently was 88, but if he continued landing them, then that value would have far surpassed 88 (and in my opinion would have reached something like 250, but that’s just a guess). Finally, before anyone grabs the “the system is rigged for Isagi pitchfork”, yes, Isagi’s the exception to this rule. BUT. It’s not because the story wants to have Isagi as number 1 (well, of course it’s that too, my point is that Isagi’s bid is not unfair compared to the other players), but because our of everyone in the NEL, Isagi’s evolving at a much higher rate than anyone else. In every match, Isagi comes out of it a completely different player. You can’t say that about anyone else. Barou comes out vastly different from the Barcha match, Rin from the Manshine match, but they didn’t improve as much as Isagi does on a constant basis. Thus, as his skill as a level and his value as a player is ever changing, faster than everyone else’s, his value isn’t stabilising and plateauing. Personally, I love the bids because of how much they actually tell you about the player and the system itself, looking at the biases of it and everything. And that’s why I hate how it feels like a large part of the fan base oversimplifies or disregards them.
@mycrooo6841
@mycrooo6841 9 месяцев назад
@@anastasishatzakis5752finally someone with sense 🤦‍♂️ these barou fans don’t understand how the bidding works, and literally took what kurona was speculating as if it was stated narratively.. barou has not been that consistent in term of growth, he scored a hattrick in his first match while winning which set the standard for his bid, then proceed to get less goals in a match against muchen and also loss.. People also don’t understand if the person outclass you in the game they can pass you even if you have higher overall numbers..
@billygrayson460
@billygrayson460 8 месяцев назад
​@@mycrooo6841you don't understand how the bidding works either bro. Because the explanation is inconsistent when you look at other players like Bachira, Kunigami and Chigiri. If the explanation was true then Kunigami would've ranked higher than Bachira since the first game, but it wasn't the case, Bachira lost every game he was in but still received 30 something millions in his 2 first game while Kunigami got 20 something for each goals in 2 his two first game.
@tanatswamakara4700
@tanatswamakara4700 9 месяцев назад
I love how the 2nd Selection Top 6 is still showing how good they are (well, except unmotivated Nagi 😅). Also, why are we accepting Kurona's goal valuations as gospel😂? When Nagi scored an 88 million goal, we should have known.
@KiiNGKhyy
@KiiNGKhyy 9 месяцев назад
Still if the author put that every goal is between 30-50 mil that should have been the standard
@tanatswamakara4700
@tanatswamakara4700 9 месяцев назад
@KiiNGKhyy I don't think so. We shouldn't take a character's estimation (especially one who's nowhere near the rule makers) as law. That estimation sounded wrong the moment Kurona said it. Bachira should be at least 90 million if that rule held😅. Personally, I've chucked the valuations to bidding politics and entertainment value
@KCG23694
@KCG23694 9 месяцев назад
​@@KiiNGKhyy did the author said that can you confirm that I don't really know
@mitchelkissi2794
@mitchelkissi2794 9 месяцев назад
The ranking system has literally been modeled for the clubs themselves to bid and up the value. If a clubs doesn’t put up a value for the player it won’t bump up. The clubs mostly decide the value by bidding. It seems everyone forgot
@iNotAnHacker
@iNotAnHacker 9 месяцев назад
I think of the salary bids as slowly getting closer to there real values, once someone has shown they can consistently create goals they get the big bid spike, but then that ability has been accounted for so they would need to show off something new to actually improve there bid. Barou isn’t getting an insane bid because he has already shown what he can do and while consistency helps he has already been able to score frequently so it’s only adding a bit. The bids don’t value scoring, they value the ability to create a goal no one else can, so super goals are likely to be 30-50 mil in value but a regular goal is less.
@masgrande95
@masgrande95 9 месяцев назад
Yeah but the problem isn't that Barou hasn't a big increase the problem is that problem is that the value of his performance decreased. Even if the bids spike due to his consistency that would mean ik Barou's case that the value of his performance shouldn't go higher or lower. Barou received 100 millions for scoring 3 goals, that means the average goal of Barou shoei is worth 33 millions, unless he does something else like a supergoal( double nutmeg goal) or something, the value shouldn't be higher or lower but since the BM game they decreased the value of his goals like crazy, he basically had 15 millions of each goals against BM and against manshine he scored got 10 millions for each that doesn't make any sense.
@TheRayerrr
@TheRayerrr 9 месяцев назад
I like how loki is basically forcing a kid to pass to him for himself
@Himreacts98
@Himreacts98 8 месяцев назад
Egoism😵‍💫
@TheRayerrr
@TheRayerrr 8 месяцев назад
@@Himreacts98 wait till loki turns 18 everyone gunna call the feds
@SushiSushiSushii
@SushiSushiSushii 9 месяцев назад
England is the most interesting since they are the only club that decreases their original bid. great plot device for nagi and reo's development. it's an auction system. clubs want to buy the players based on how valuable the player is based on their team's PHILOSOPHY. BM is the rational-logical type, kurona guessed that they must value goals as 30-50 mil. Ubers wants another crown messenger so they are willing to pay 100 mil for a player like Barou who can do hat tricks
@toxicanimeguy4067
@toxicanimeguy4067 9 месяцев назад
The rankings aren't video game scores where every match adds value to the scoreboard, they serve as an evaluation of the level you are at. Barou had already shown he could score alot of goals in the Barcha match so it makes no sense for his value to go up the same value proportionally from two goals. He needs to show something new for the value to go up. Besides Isagi had already surpassed Barou in the Ubers match so he shouldn't be ahead of him. Isagi shouldn't have to surpass Barou twice in the same league.
@KiiNGKhyy
@KiiNGKhyy 9 месяцев назад
I would agree with that but barou played one more game and still did more than isagi did in the ubers match. He should be higher
@WaterM2
@WaterM2 9 месяцев назад
@@KiiNGKhyybarou only played 3 games he didn’t play the first match
@raymonwashington9742
@raymonwashington9742 9 месяцев назад
​@@KiiNGKhyy They played the same amount of games.
@KCG23694
@KCG23694 9 месяцев назад
​@@KiiNGKhyyI remember Ubers losing that match and both of them have two goals
@icescorpion7050
@icescorpion7050 9 месяцев назад
They played exact same amount of games​@@KiiNGKhyy
@zay2850
@zay2850 8 месяцев назад
the ranking make sense. once you sclre enough goals you dont earn as much. We know you can score goals and not all goals are equal. And the rankings arent a score ranking. its a subjective evaluation from people in the manga. its in no way objective of whos better
@macb6528
@macb6528 8 месяцев назад
see it like this, Barou may have more goals but he has an entire system built around him. Isagi on the other hand is competing with Michael Kaiser and still is contributing in every single game to goals, with his last match scoring two and assisting one He’s fighting to be on top among one of the world’s best young talents, which is where his value is shown
@welcometoasia9984
@welcometoasia9984 8 месяцев назад
I agree I think the Bastard Munchen players values are all skyrocketing compared to other players Even the side characters like Kurona and Hiori are insane
@rafaelmachado9837
@rafaelmachado9837 9 месяцев назад
Some people clearly dont understand how the bids work
@lellis4778
@lellis4778 8 месяцев назад
I dont know why people don't get this but the bids are done by the teams in the league specifically isagis is most of the time by bastard so bastard is just saying they think to their system isagi is worth 150 mil.
@emanuele07
@emanuele07 9 месяцев назад
There are some strange things with these bids. First the fact that they included Fukaku, ok that they need a second goalie (beside Gagamaru), but I would have liked more a player among the npcs of the second selection that started to like the role and converted himself as one (like Niko as a defender). The second thing is that, according to me, both Otoya and Airyu are too high, Otoya only helped to make goals (useful but nothing great), and Airyu is good but only considering the physical aspect (he doesn't even have meta vision).
@tadiwanashechikanya9712
@tadiwanashechikanya9712 9 месяцев назад
I think Otoya scored in the ubers match
@zhavierbrown4422
@zhavierbrown4422 9 месяцев назад
@@tadiwanashechikanya9712he ain’t it was only Bachira
@maurya077
@maurya077 8 месяцев назад
​@@zhavierbrown4422no he did score.
@emanuele07
@emanuele07 8 месяцев назад
They never said that he has scored. Against Bastards only Bachira and Lavi scored, and against Ubers Bachira scored the 2 goals. In 245 they only say that Barcha scored 2 goals against PxG, but probably Lavi and Bachira made those goals.
@maurya077
@maurya077 8 месяцев назад
@@emanuele07 hiori says lavinho subbed in and helped bachira and otoya score. That also explains why otoya is number 10 now. Go read the chapter again
@KCG23694
@KCG23694 9 месяцев назад
I think the ranking is base on the bidding of the teams on the player not by goals make
@horisan5633
@horisan5633 9 месяцев назад
Ranking are just club betting like you already bet barou 100 mil in barch match and then another club who wants him bet like 110 and then your club want to keep him so you raise to 130 then if no one added to that then that's the final bet. It is just that. Now clubs start noticing shindou so he will get betted on again and again till its final bet become 100. That's it. it is not like ego is giving these values.
@mickwoodfield5926
@mickwoodfield5926 8 месяцев назад
I feel if goals are worth 50 million assists should be worth 25 million and also I think goals should also have a bonus based of flare and importance
@kingxen5716
@kingxen5716 9 месяцев назад
Author keeps teasing with chapi
@kellye9325
@kellye9325 8 месяцев назад
It has to do with club budget if Barou was in PXG with those goals he'll get same amount as rin
@mr_shorts9233
@mr_shorts9233 8 месяцев назад
Plot twist igarashi the monk gets a foul for a free kick/penalty and Isagi scores final goal
@monaco0042
@monaco0042 8 месяцев назад
Yea the ranking are going to be mad wierd Cause I definitely see Rin and Shidou scoring next match. But thiers no way Isagi gets a Hatrick for one simple reason. Kunigami needs to score at least once or his entire stroyline is worthless. So in essence it makes no sense for Isagi to surpass Rin in rankings without MC wank being involved.
@danimartin4934
@danimartin4934 8 месяцев назад
It is good that the goal rankings are inconsistent because it a was to score a fluke tap in, it shouldn’t be worth the same as shidou scoring his impossible goals
@saeszestydemon
@saeszestydemon 8 месяцев назад
HOW TF DOES NISHIOKA HAVE A THREE MILLION YEN BID AND WE HAVE NEVER SEEN HIM DO ANYTHING. He just literally stood there and oh “heS thE MeSsI oF aOmOri” and give us nothing.. That irritates me more than the person that told me that “I am tired of Rin always getting his way”.. bruh his nii-chan disrespected not once, but twice and Himmy Turner stole his moment in the U-20 game.. how tf is that him getting his way 😂
@xodiff8986
@xodiff8986 9 месяцев назад
I think the goal ranking makes perfect sense y’all just thinking to much
@KiiNGKhyy
@KiiNGKhyy 9 месяцев назад
Na
@horisan5633
@horisan5633 9 месяцев назад
Yep
@TheKinglyWay
@TheKinglyWay 9 месяцев назад
People jist coudlnt hop off chapas meat and he turns out to be a side character
@lastzestu4767
@lastzestu4767 9 месяцев назад
He can still be good
@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord
@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord 9 месяцев назад
Who is that?
@ebwankanobi6420
@ebwankanobi6420 8 месяцев назад
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@MrHellmager
@MrHellmager 9 месяцев назад
Baruo getting robbed
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