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The eruption of Mt Vesuvius buried the cities of Pompeii and Herculaneum, and one ancient library was burned to a crisp. However, scientists are now using machine learning and AI to decipher the writing on them and recover lost works of ancient philosophy.
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@MajoraZ
@MajoraZ Месяц назад
I think it's sort of gross that this was a massively crowdsourced project, yet the final scanned images are copyrighted instead of being Public Domain. Actually, even if they WERE scanned totally through the work of one person, these are still ancient documents and should be in the Public Domain anyways.
@eponawarrior7492
@eponawarrior7492 Месяц назад
"Mostly destroyed is still slightly intact" tell me why I was having flashbacks to that "mostly dead" scene from The Princess Bride 😂
@jaysnively1489
@jaysnively1489 Месяц назад
"Have fun reading the scrolls!"
@yelljal2764
@yelljal2764 Месяц назад
Get back witch!
@iconoclastvii
@iconoclastvii Месяц назад
Now I'm craving MLT
@Ryan_but_the_name_was_taken
@Ryan_but_the_name_was_taken Месяц назад
MLT when the mutton is nice and lean
@twitchy_bird
@twitchy_bird Месяц назад
Why, that's inconceivable.
@Hurricayne92
@Hurricayne92 Месяц назад
This is what AI should be being used for not making terrible art and writing bad articles
@CrispyGFX
@CrispyGFX Месяц назад
Or min-maxing corporate profit at the expense of employee interests.
@Prismaticlysm
@Prismaticlysm Месяц назад
More like making terrible art that is a stolen Frankenstein conglomeration from thousands of artists online... But agreed!
@nedludd7622
@nedludd7622 Месяц назад
Also crappy voices that lousy channels use.
@asterlofts1565
@asterlofts1565 Месяц назад
I have news for you: The A.I. HE ALREADY DRAWS WELL (yes, even the hands and other details), so...
@fg786
@fg786 Месяц назад
Why not both? Watching this video I get the idea, that AI is used to do what is shown in the video about how AI is doing what is shown in the video.
@alexanderx33
@alexanderx33 Месяц назад
Theres a very big difference between "mostly destroyed" and "all destroyed".
@astrayscot
@astrayscot Месяц назад
Yes, slightly intact, like he said.
@seajaytea9340
@seajaytea9340 Месяц назад
Do ancient scrolls have "loose change?" 🤣
@myuu22
@myuu22 Месяц назад
Hey? Hello in there. Hey, what's so important? Whatcha got there that's worth livin' for?
@WhichSpringfieldAmThis
@WhichSpringfieldAmThis Месяц назад
​@@myuu22 a nice mlt
@artor9175
@artor9175 Месяц назад
​@@myuu22 To blave!
@MTerrance
@MTerrance Месяц назад
I like this new informal presentation style. It is more intimate and does not require the presenter to stand the whole time. It feels less forced.
@alecsyogacorner
@alecsyogacorner Месяц назад
I like it too!
@jeromefitzroy
@jeromefitzroy Месяц назад
Well looking at his girth, it doesn’t looks like he can stand that long anyways
@vivientakacs5599
@vivientakacs5599 Месяц назад
​@@jeromefitzroy Disgusting to say, but he has no problem doing it. He has been in many other videos before, mostly on side channels of SciShow.
@alecsyogacorner
@alecsyogacorner Месяц назад
@@jeromefitzroyasshole, he stands in every other video and looks great doing it - take this attitude elsewhere
@jon.bo_
@jon.bo_ Месяц назад
@@jeromefitzroyyou clicked on this video to learn something, but all you’ve done is reveal your inability to put aside your inside thoughts for the sake of a cheap jab. so, uh, congrats?
@elisa.llew-send
@elisa.llew-send Месяц назад
I love it when contests encourage scientific and engineering breakthroughs.
@raylopez99
@raylopez99 Месяц назад
True. Prizes for making an invention public rather than keeping it as a trade secret are underrated. Recall the receipe for Roman concrete was lost and only recent rediscovered, just one example of many.
@wildflower1397
@wildflower1397 26 дней назад
They can encourage innovation and creativity, but they can also lead people to try and solve it on their own for the money. Working collaboratively with people from different fields is not only faster sometimes, but they prevent each other from making mistakes that can cause harm. This is especially true with a unique or historical object that cannot be replaced. For example, an expert on lasers would be much more successful if a historian helped them fully understand the materials and techniques used to create the item. One good thing, though, is it gives the money to the people doing the actual work, not big corporations.
@coeal2680
@coeal2680 Месяц назад
Enjoying the more relaxed, sit and chill style
@marcob1729
@marcob1729 Месяц назад
now if only they could change up the random quotes that they include exactly rather than paraphrasing… They often contain quirks of speech patterns in them. It’s really odd to me.
@FaultyMuse
@FaultyMuse Месяц назад
FIRST (a robotics group that runs competitions for kids) is HUGE on this idea of "part cooperation, part competition" and even has a term specifically for that, "Coopertition". RIP Woodie Flowers
@hawks9142
@hawks9142 Месяц назад
I had completely forgotten about that word! Me and my team where the winner at worlds on year but that was forever ago now. It was either when I was in 7th or 8th grade. We'd go around saying coopertition all the time cause we thought it was funny.
@eklectiktoni
@eklectiktoni Месяц назад
I really wish this was more common in STEM. Imagine how much progress would be made in treating diseases like malaria or cancer if this model was being followed in all medical research.
@Aaron-P
@Aaron-P Месяц назад
In case the writer was worried no one would pick up a subtle Princess Bride reference, someone noticed. ❤️❤️
@Tim3.14
@Tim3.14 Месяц назад
It would have been very interesting if the scroll were about Epicurean philosophy, but it clearly said "to blave".
@WhichSpringfieldAmThis
@WhichSpringfieldAmThis Месяц назад
They know their audience. I feel for the 5 ppl who didn't get it.
@yelljal2764
@yelljal2764 Месяц назад
@Tim3.14 And we all know "to blaithe" means "to bluff" so you were probably playing cards and he cheated!
@angelitabecerra
@angelitabecerra Месяц назад
1:29 +1 for the *Princess Bride* reference
@emmam1161
@emmam1161 Месяц назад
“What do we got, John?” “It’s the Bible again!” *entire lab groans*
@monicarenee7949
@monicarenee7949 Месяц назад
I’m Christian but that was funny lol
@wendys9500
@wendys9500 19 дней назад
Lol I would personally find it interesting to see what differences there are between the ancient and modern translated biblical texts
@Techno_Idioto
@Techno_Idioto 11 дней назад
Just throw away anything found to be rewrites of that rag. It deserves to be lost to time. Same with all holy texts.
@WilliamScavengerFish
@WilliamScavengerFish Месяц назад
He isn't dead, he mostly dead.
@Babygirlyouretheheart
@Babygirlyouretheheart Месяц назад
Imagining archaeologists 5000 years from now trying to recover my diaries from when I was 8 and giving away loads of money to whoever can read "today I ate glue"
@chatbear69
@chatbear69 Месяц назад
Can't get enough of this guy! I love that computers and AI are being used outside of chat bots and desk weights. Keep up the good work Reid and the SciShow team.
@MadMeeper
@MadMeeper Месяц назад
I remember reading about this once the challenge had completed! Really exciting to see yall covering it, this is the beginning of a whole new wave of exciting historical knowledge!
@zenfrodo
@zenfrodo Месяц назад
I've been following the story of these scrolls for a couple years and I'm EXCITED that our tech has finally gotten to the point we can decipher them. I'm hoping we find missing/lost texts like the missing books of the Illiad. And your reference to The Princess Bride wasn't missed, btw. "Only mostly destroyed", indeed.
@TheAnon26
@TheAnon26 Месяц назад
I love it. All that text, theres bound to be some never-before-seen stuff in there... Cant wait to see the results! 😁
@EMNstar
@EMNstar Месяц назад
Im hoping for Sapphic poetry
@JoeJaJoeJoe
@JoeJaJoeJoe Месяц назад
New set looks very cozy
@loganl3746
@loganl3746 Месяц назад
Those CT scan animations are making me crave croissants and phyllo treats 😂
@StrewthStoatPirate
@StrewthStoatPirate Месяц назад
+1 for Miracle Max reference.
@98Zai
@98Zai Месяц назад
At first the new studio felt weird, after so many years. But now I love it! 😊
@Doctor-vn8es
@Doctor-vn8es Месяц назад
Looking chilled and casual there on your big comfortable chair Reid. Yet more brilliant fun science. Thanks guys.
@andrew24601
@andrew24601 Месяц назад
Loving the cozy living room set vibes instead of a green screen! (And laughing about how you’re technically an “armchair scientist” at the moment 😂)
@RafaelRabinovich
@RafaelRabinovich Месяц назад
All this to read a piece from Epicuros telling you to enjoy life
@_maxgray
@_maxgray Месяц назад
Love the Princess Bride reference at 1:30
@Syco108
@Syco108 Месяц назад
This is some amazing stuff! Humans do really cool stuff when we work together and share information.
@caspenbee
@caspenbee Месяц назад
This new fuzzy chair is giving such Cool Professor vibes
@MonoRoja
@MonoRoja Месяц назад
Possible newly discovered Epicurean texts is extremely exciting! Epicurus is my favorite ancient philosopher, but we have very few writings that survived to today.
@cathybayne4429
@cathybayne4429 Месяц назад
I love the Princess Bride reference. Mostly dead = slightly alive.
@stephanieparker1250
@stephanieparker1250 Месяц назад
I love the set for the host, looks comfy 🤗
@tengonadacluewhatsgutsprec1419
@tengonadacluewhatsgutsprec1419 Месяц назад
Thank you patreons!
@outlawbillionairez9780
@outlawbillionairez9780 Месяц назад
Thank you, potatoes! 🥔 .... (🍟)
@MBMCincy63
@MBMCincy63 Месяц назад
Really enjoying the new background for this series. That chair looks mostly comfy... And last weeks Reid introducing himself on several older videos about the eclipse was funny but neat. Glad AI is able to assist with discovery of ancient scrolls. 🥶🖤🔔👍🏻❤️
@sombrerosrule
@sombrerosrule Месяц назад
The overtones in this man’s voice are insane!
@Alice_Walker
@Alice_Walker Месяц назад
Very cool topic and I like this set. It's stylish and flatteringly lit and I enjoy the host sitting down and seeming comfy! 💜
@triviszla1536
@triviszla1536 Месяц назад
Loving Reid's new casual / tropic studio setup
@Ruki9410
@Ruki9410 Месяц назад
Loving this new set up!!
@alexhurst3986
@alexhurst3986 Месяц назад
I love your new laid back set.
@oyahfftlisawsome
@oyahfftlisawsome Месяц назад
I watched, recently, the episode of Unearthed which showcased these scrolls. What a fun video to see
@troubledcactus2518
@troubledcactus2518 Месяц назад
1:29 something something Princess Bride, something something “He’s only ‘mostly’ dead…”
@marcob1729
@marcob1729 Месяц назад
Even as a kid, I thought it was incredibly sad that hundreds of these scrolls have been destroyed by people thinking they could unroll them
@victoriaporres2253
@victoriaporres2253 Месяц назад
Love these videos
@kariannecrysler640
@kariannecrysler640 Месяц назад
I’m so excited about this 💯😁
@theanyktos
@theanyktos Месяц назад
This is a brilliant story, can't wait to find out what else they discover from these scrolls
@DoctorEth
@DoctorEth Месяц назад
Awesome stuff! Note on terminology though: 'parchment' refers specifically to the material substrate of any handwritten text, that is a scroll (in this case) made from prepared and stretched animal skins - not scrolls made from papyrus, which i assume is the case with these scrolls.
@AlexWalkerSmith
@AlexWalkerSmith Месяц назад
POV: You're in the waiting room at a pediatrician's office, and Reid is talking your ear off.
@mikeyd946
@mikeyd946 Месяц назад
I love Reed 😊
@DomyTheMad420
@DomyTheMad420 Месяц назад
while on the one hand i want to go "they won the nobel prize for reading a scroll? >.>" on the other hand: they ONLY won a Nobel prize?! they read a scroll that got caught up and burried in a VOLCANIC eruption. This is one of the technologies anyone born less then 30 years ago should think not possible! :D amazing!!
@SciMinute
@SciMinute Месяц назад
Wow this shows the benefits of AI that aren't mentioned much these days!
@snackplissken8192
@snackplissken8192 Месяц назад
That would be quite exciting, since much of what we know about Greek and Roman writings come from partial notes and off-handed citations. We mostly have access to the stuff that survived to medieval Irish monks to copy and further survived burning from vikings.
@lesleyhahn8682
@lesleyhahn8682 Месяц назад
Inconceivable!
@yelljal2764
@yelljal2764 Месяц назад
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
@clevercompiler
@clevercompiler 28 дней назад
I lost it with the Princess Bride reference.
@takumi2023
@takumi2023 Месяц назад
cool. i hope there will be some interesting writings discovered.
@zmpuffnstuff
@zmpuffnstuff Месяц назад
This is how society is supposed to work. Love it!!
@danha3107
@danha3107 Месяц назад
this is why I love the potential of AI
@TheRealLeesyKate
@TheRealLeesyKate Месяц назад
Mostly destroyed is still slightly in tact? Okay, Miracle Max
@bnthern
@bnthern Месяц назад
a total WOW!!!
@PinkGrapefruit22
@PinkGrapefruit22 Месяц назад
Ever since I first learned of this, I've been fantasizing about what could possibly be in there.
@antiisocial
@antiisocial Месяц назад
Very cool
@MG-vo7is
@MG-vo7is Месяц назад
Very cool.
@dondai2880
@dondai2880 Месяц назад
My first thought was yay new old things to read. My second was, I hope there's enough to make a new book or 10.
@feedbackzaloop
@feedbackzaloop Месяц назад
What a glowup of Scishow green screen today! All hail clever computer algorithms!
@ricardoabh3242
@ricardoabh3242 Месяц назад
Impressive
@MorgenPeschke
@MorgenPeschke Месяц назад
Ok, yes, the AI bit was cool, but the best part is that the winners had to share their techniques - and only made the biggest breakthrough _after_ that sharing happened. Yep: Power of Friendship FTW ❤
@eliscanfield3913
@eliscanfield3913 Месяц назад
Historians are Epicurious
@emmanuelsanchez9303
@emmanuelsanchez9303 Месяц назад
Sooo....im going to keep believing that it was a naughty scroll
@jimastra8488
@jimastra8488 Месяц назад
Have fun storming the labyrinth! Think they will kill the minotaur? It would take a miracle...
@TuyuqVampram
@TuyuqVampram Месяц назад
"...philosophical musings on the subject of pleasure." Me: GET THOSE SCROLLS TRANSLATED, BOYS AND GIRLS!
@DJNebaJS
@DJNebaJS Месяц назад
Cool!
@michaelstevenson5044
@michaelstevenson5044 Месяц назад
There's so much dirt to uncover at Pompeii. There's bound to be more cool stuff there
@nexussix7933
@nexussix7933 Месяц назад
I saw document restoration of a burnt document on MacGyver.
@protocetid
@protocetid 10 дней назад
technology straight out of science fiction
@lindaseel9986
@lindaseel9986 Месяц назад
Yeah! It's Reid! Take it away, Reid!
@XenoDeicici
@XenoDeicici 25 дней назад
With the power of modern science, and with all of our intelligence combined, we may finally figure out the knowledge that the ancient peoples figured out on their own just by thinking...
@scowell
@scowell Месяц назад
Humming B-52's now! Hot Lava!
@jeromefitzroy
@jeromefitzroy Месяц назад
Burnt is still not gone yet. Just because we can’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t not exist.
@barbatloosenutproductions2027
@barbatloosenutproductions2027 Месяц назад
In history, having a competition/challenges, was used for a lot of great inventions and improvements! Think; Nobel Peace Prize.😊🧠💪❤
@96ace96
@96ace96 Месяц назад
I saw those scrolls and had to question the premise of this video. Like, people can seriously read these? But then it turned out that yes. Yes, we can. We can absolutely read thousands of years old ashen and petrified scrolls with the help of increadibly advanced and precice hardware and software.
@EMNstar
@EMNstar Месяц назад
Can we do this with scrolls damaged by non volcano sources?
@yelljal2764
@yelljal2764 Месяц назад
"Whoo-hoo-hoo, look who knows so much. It just so happens that your friend here is only MOSTLY dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead, there's usually only one thing you can do - go through his clothes and look for loose change. "
@user-kn3sv6jg4h
@user-kn3sv6jg4h 29 дней назад
Yeah, sure they are. To match whichever narrative they want it to fit. Elysium wasn't just a single time command code override, which is why Picard and Data designed a rolling fractal encryption that only a real keymaster can access through their mind's eye. The experiments with the Borg were horrific. You've never seen the scenes from First Contact where the Queen laughs as she rips the grafts off of Data's skin so that he could experience the process of assimilation like Picard went through. Coincidentally, you're doing it with my heart and soul here as well. The Wizard of Oz never offered to help me, even knowing what he knew observing me at USA Volleyball.
@verybighomer
@verybighomer Месяц назад
Maybe they finally find the first Pizza recipe.
@ivanborsuk1110
@ivanborsuk1110 24 дня назад
The Elder Scorlls VI: Roman Empire
@yellowflowerorangeflower5706
@yellowflowerorangeflower5706 25 дней назад
Cool
@CSBastianyGaumnitz
@CSBastianyGaumnitz Месяц назад
hell yeah. Skynet for the win.
@billyhart3299
@billyhart3299 Месяц назад
What was the Common Event?
@Eurotool
@Eurotool Месяц назад
Jackson Galaxy
@culwin
@culwin 26 дней назад
All the kids on Tiktok are doing the Vesuvius Challenge
@dashvash5440
@dashvash5440 29 дней назад
Wow! That's so cool. I love the methodology and that they fostered creative solutions shared by the solvers. Also, its great that the prizes don't feel disrespectful and cheap.
@wildflower1397
@wildflower1397 26 дней назад
My question did they preserve the scrolls if they couldn't be read? They were brittle, blackened, and seemed completely useless, other than maybe to test their composition or date them. Did someone already understand that science would make them readable someday?
@Winterfur1
@Winterfur1 Месяц назад
Until Campi Flegrei erupts and destroys that area it is threatening to erupt
@user-jm9iw6mm9o
@user-jm9iw6mm9o Месяц назад
Hey bro it's been a while
@General12th
@General12th Месяц назад
Bro
@wiggletonthewise2141
@wiggletonthewise2141 29 дней назад
This is what AI is great for!! More of this and less of stealing intellectual property please!
@keata1315
@keata1315 Месяц назад
So Niantic is going to roll back more of it's benefits it put in place during covid is what you're saying
@3800S1
@3800S1 Месяц назад
Purple is a fruit!
@bensoncheung2801
@bensoncheung2801 Месяц назад
👍👍👍
@michaelobrien5891
@michaelobrien5891 29 дней назад
Epicurean philosophy is still taken seriously.
@xXJoeyXxcoooool
@xXJoeyXxcoooool 21 день назад
One of the only good uses of ai
@nedludd7622
@nedludd7622 Месяц назад
How many people here have even read one of the known texts of Epicurus?
@AndSendMe
@AndSendMe Месяц назад
This was much, much better than I expected. Thank you for making it detailed and dense with information.
@alecsyogacorner
@alecsyogacorner Месяц назад
Not to be this guy - but isn’t there a whole school of (flawed) ontology that says ancient Greeks couldn’t see the color purple because they have no word for it? (I know the “wine-dark sea” hypothesis is nonsense but like… thought there was no word for purple in Greek)
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