They see the economy for what it is, they know the customers (artists and producers) who will be shopping for software will be looking to create the highest quality work for as little money as possible. AND THEYRE DELIVERING. Fuck adobe they can take my money.
This Brilliant Dude has reintroduced my Ableton Live Suite to me live I’ve never seen it before..and I’m so glad and thankful.2nd day here. Looking forward to the amazing soundpacks and more
it’s cheaper to upgrade from 11 to 12 than to buy antares luckily i have antares through someone else who pays for it but now im just gonna upgrade ableton :)
FL has great stock plugins. Some have questionable UIs, but the main issue with most of the plugins is that they are not super obvious to most users due to FL's interface. I have owned FL for like 20 years and still stumble upon stuff buried in it that I never knew was in there.
Just get live lite 12, the 8 track 2 sends limit is actually far less important than you think, especially since the drum rack still allows you to put that many samples on 1 track. It is a good challenge to finish tracks in the minimal amount of tracks too.
ableton is actually a good software that’s worth paying for. i’d say buy it. it works better when you buy it. this isn’t an adobe situation where you can justify cracking it (besides being broke i mean i get how it be out here it’s hard)
And reason. Reason has had an auto tune shifter more powerful than this for 10 years now. I still like Live better for sequencing and song writing though, which takes precedence over features.
ok, perhaps FL has a better pitch correction utility than this. Sure. But FL has a COMPLETELY different workflow and interface, and MUCH poorer outboard equipment integration/live play and musician-style features (at least as far as I can tell). Certain tasks in FL -- like automation -- are handled in a way not all users find intuitive. I own both. They are entirely separate DAWs in terms of design philosophy. All I'm trying to say is this: some of us feel the same way about our Ableton templates that guitarists feel about their axe. Unfortunately, FL does not support .als files.
The midi mode for the auto tune is essentially the plugin Manipulator. Not included with Logic. There’s a basic auto tune without the midi in logic already.
Vocal Synth 2 by iZotope creates very similar sounds and more with vocoder-like midi control It is normally a bit pricey but appears to be on sale for $30 right now on sweetwater.
@@souljaboi81 the mixer might look better, but you have to use mostly 3rd party plugins that cost a shit ton of cpu opposed to using simpler native effects like ableton had.
@@ApeSlayer bro you talking a bunch of shit xD. FL has very great stock plugins. And lets be honest. You dont use any DAW bcs of one stock plugin. You use a DAW bcs you like the way the daw works. One of the most underrated things FL has is patcher and you cant convince me that it doesnt have great tools. Im not hating on ableton btw. I use it as well from time to time
@@muzy8768 I wish they'd make patcher a VST that I could use elsewhere. I don't love FLs workflow, and spend most of my time in either Bitwig or Studio One these days, but patcher is goated. You can get close with VSTs like Patchwork or Unify, but it's a bit clunky imo.
@@GodDamnThakur It really is though, It has better native FX, Better arrangement and automation, more efficient routing and busing, Not to mention all the synthesis and sampling capability it has that is much more open ended than the sampler in FL
@@TwoThreadsAhead FL have a auto tune and also a melodyne alternative for years and nobody’s talking about it, furthermore you are saying operator and wavetable are better than harmor, sytrus, kepler exo, sakura and a lot of others natives syths from FL? lol
@@TwoThreadsAhead more than 15 years and seems like you barely scratched the surface, I am saying that because don’t make sense celebrate this features that FL already have, such as history undo and all the articulation’s in the piano roll (+ midi generator and Implementation os scripts). If you are happier using ableton that is completely fine, but you can’t say that they are bringing something different on the table