They Gave Us an Axe. Big Mistake. | Hades 2 

It feels significantly harder than hades 1 imo

Axe is 1000% my favorite. In my opinion it is a bit harder than Hades 1 but I think it will be hard to tell until we get more experience with this game and develop a meta. We aren't used to it yet.

I feel Hades 2 is WAY harder. I think foes have more sweeping/wide attacks which are tougher to dodge. Plus Melinoe feels like she has significantly less health. I’m sure some of it is because I’m used to later-game in 1, but it’s just tough, I’ve been struggling to consistently reach Scylla.

brooo one of the axe aspects turns it into a scythe it’s too sick😭

the axe is A BEAST. it’s omega attack + hestia is crazy, once you get daedalus hammer to make the charge quicker you can unleash massive amounts of dmg fast

It might feel harder because melinoe strength build up is slower than zag but she can potentially activate a lot of cards and weapon aspects also locked behind surface ingredients which is quite a nuisance to get early. Chronos also has OTK move which Hades doesn't have

Having beaten all the hell bosses I feel like the game is harder than hades 1 at the moment but mostly because the game balance is quite stilted right now. Your growth curve in hades 1 (i.e. how strong you could get between runs) was okay, but it's a little too grindy in hades 2 as you won't even get the "mirror upgrades" till much later and you have to grind so many resources to level the arcana table up. Add to that how the "minor find" rewards seem more common and you almost need a near complete set of core boons+the omega boons of each applicable core boon, and some cracked synergy in between there to really start feeling like you aren't just tickling the opponent's HP (which seemed inflated to me till yesterday where I finally got 2 good builds going) and a pretty sweeping lack of tier 2s (you must "build" synergies between gods rn) and you have a game that's both incomplete (early access is still early access) and just has to be approached in a totally different way to hades 1, making it way harder but in a half unintended way. Imo the bosses are definitely harder than hades 1 that is for certain

this game feels so much harder than the original I have 12 hours already and I still struggle with the first two bosses (still haven't beaten the 3rd)

Because I dont think I saw you use it even once: The Axe's special, where it spins around, blocks like the shield. Not indefinitely because of the omega, and not so wide, but you can still use it to, say, delete the chasing music note projectiles in the Siren's fight. It takes timing but helps offset the "slowness" and shorter range of the axe somewhat.

I made it to the end with the axe. Got the big chop hammer with Apollo as my attack boon and demeter on my cast to hold them down. Didnt win cause of f***in Eris but I did get about 1/4 into the final fight. Got 2 shot cause even with dmg reduction the boss is doing like 70 dmg per hit. Wont spoil anything else.

Okay, I was gonna wait until full release, but every time you upload a video it just looks so utterly fun and charming... I can't even watch because I don't want to spoil myself too much, but I don't think I'll be able to hold out...

At the end the "bars" aka roman numerals are a count down to the final boss.

im really curious to learn more about eris' intentions and alignments. she makes your runs harder but she almost looks like she doesn't actually want to do it

I think it's harder than Hades 1 so far. Boons feel kind of weak and thus things take a lot of time too kill yet still hit quite hard. Builds feel quite sad most of the time, I'm guessing this will improve as boons are added / altered.

The "drag"Melinoe does reminds me of how Red drags the sword in Transistor. edit: Chat answers it within seconds of me posting the comment xD

Looks like the scorch did not get purged when she split. Hecate took the damage immediately from her health bar.

After I found out that you can dash after you charge for a bit to start the Omega attack, the axe handled very smoothly.

Hi haelian, im loving the new hades II vids. There is a way to dash through your omega (whirlwind) attack. you have to continually press own the attack button whilst spinning. Then dash whilst still holding attack.

Cannot wait for today's runs to be shown off for the Tubers :D I gotta start thinking of good builds because I'm not nearly as good as this game in general as you are xD

If it feels harder, it’s because the meta progression system feels restrictive and difficult to work with early game. I wish they just brought back the mirror.

Spinny axe with the speedup and aphro is so fun

Grampy is a very good kitty.

This seems significantly harder then Hades I

I got to the end and 2/3 of the way through his health only once. And it was immediately after losing to the Sirens every time. I went from not being able to beat them, to almost endgame and I was so sad I lost. Godlike duo boon combo. Hestia cast, Poseidon twin blades special, Apollo magic regen, and a fun duo between P and H. It rocked.

The way the music slows down when you use that hex is so rad.

58:36 IIII is usually expressed as 4 instead of IV on clock faces to distinguish it from VI what's weirder is using Roman Numerals in a Greek setting, but these folks can literally receive things from the future. so whatever

Your cast can temporarily trap stuff so when that screaming mob comes after you, remember to press Q.

the axe is so fucking cool they cooked feels like what aspect of arthur should've always been

I struggled at first, but after like 20 runs you figure it out. I've now made it to Cronos basically every run with any weapon. You just got to know that this is NOT Hades 1 where you basically smash and dash. You must use your Special + Cast or Attack + Cast depending on the weapon, at all times.

Only having one dodge has made this feel a bit tougher even though my skill carried over.

loving this game! Good stuff!

I am new to hades 1 and 2 and have equal time in each of them. with about 30 hours in each of them. I think Hades 1 is harder because hades 2 enemies and bosses are more fair. I think the visual queues and telegraphed attacks are easier to recognize in 2. In hades 1 I often died and had no idea what killed me.

Hell Splitter, Executioner's Chop, Marauder's Slash. Heroic Nova Strike (80% damage), Epic Perfect Image, Extra Dose. This is one of Chaos' suggested axe setups from the Pitch-Black Stone. I tried to emulate it, didn't quite get anything-and STILL absolutely smashed Chronos in both phases.

Axe looks like it’s is spin to win! I love that. The weapons look super interesting in Hades 2.

this axe is insane

Personally, I think Scorch is a great boon with the whirlwind. That being said, I like DoT effects, and that boon allowed you to rack up serious DoT.

The fight with Sirens reminds me of the 1st boss from Transistor - Sybil. Lots of singing during both fights.

Transistor is a hidden gem.. I loved it and still play it

Apollo special goes crazy on the axe, got me to Chronos for the first time!

Got Hades 2 yesterday and i have 0 ragrets. Im hyped for the weapon aspects.

That cat is amazing

Hera's attack boon goes crazy hard on Axe for omega attacks for groups of enemies, but it struggles a little vs bosses

I had a legendary hestia boon last night.. it just increased the scorch damage from all your boons.. In that same run I had a duo boon from Aphrodite and Poseidon it was from Aphrodite attack with Poseidon Special.

axe with aphrodite and demeter buffing the attack went pretty smooth. got the skylla first try with that

Axe is everyone’s favorite, especially with Apollo on main attack

I really like the art work for the band 😊

Axe + Demeter is OP. Freeze attack to lock foes + omega bonus.

I've gotten to the end of Tartarus 3 times now, this game gets crazy hard. But holy crap, the power level of this game feels so huge, for enemies and for Mel

Game is definitely more challenging imo, but based on my experience( I have too many hours for this game so far, don't ask) I think the difficulty stems from a few issues I've noticed: 1.) Melee is MUCH more punishing compared to range due to dash/sprint being clunky compared to Hades 1 dashing and what seems like overall enemy design philosophy. 2.) Only a few gods have good boons/combos/builds(Poseidon special cast with witch staff is INSANE compared to melee weapon power levels, sister blades with Hestia attack/Poseidon special/Steam duo boon is pretty good) 3.) Based on my experience, witch staff and sister blades are the only viable weapons. Skull and torch feel BAD to use(especially torch, horrendously bad). Axe is mediocre but I might try it again with one of it's aspects. 4.) Calls not being a thing anymore is disappointing and takes a lot of power/flexibility away. I've only used Selene for her healing call to make up for bad mistakes or to use her star path to gain free passive damage from NOT using her call. 5.) I'm using some upgraded weapons/aspects and they still feel pretty underwhelming fighting bosses. I do not know if this comes from boons/weapons being overall weak or bosses having too much health. Either way: I'm still having a lot of fun playing this game and I know SuperGiant will address all balance issues.

Melinoë’s axe dragging is a callback to the way Red drags her sword in Supergiant’s second game, Transistor.

I also have played Hades 1 so much that I can't tell which one is harder, I remember reaching the final boss in 1 much later than in 2, but the final boss wasn't even in the game from early access in 1 and it is in the game in 2, so that might be it

That's some angry noodle eating 😂

34:50 a most appropriate reaction 🤣😂🤣😂

Axe drag really came from Transistor!!!

I got to chronos by try 10 but he absolutely clowned on me. This definitely feels different and there's some weapon imbalance for sure. Also the hammers range from almost insignificant to super good. The run I got to Chronos with I had the dual dags and a special synergy on the hammers (the return special and the charged special). But it's early days so who knows.

the drag is from transistor

I like Apollo on the axe, makes whirlwind big and sound like lasers. This game rocks

3:36 water..earth..fire..air..long ago the 4 nations lived together in harmony then, everything changed when the fire nation attacked, onyl the avatar master of all 4 elements could stop them, but when the world needed him most he vanished, a 100 years passed and my brother and i discovered the new avatar, an airbender named aang and although his airbending skills are great hes still has alot to learn before hes ready to save anyone but i belive aang can save the world .....

the boons are a lot weaker compared to 1, that and the input delay is kinda wild too

0:55 the titan of chonkyness is in the game also

@Haelian how complete is Hades 2 in this early access? do you know if saves will reset once the game is out of early? considering if i should get in on the action

Definitely way harder in the beginning but I just unlocked arcana upgrades and really see the potential for getting super buffed. Enemies are definitely rough but once you get 20 grasp it’s pretty standard. The resource farming is awesome. I kinda felt overwhelmed at first but once areas opened up more it’s gotten fun to hunt for specific things :)

I've made some good builds with the axe so far. I had a charge attack build that demolished everything up to final boss where it became useless. Boss never gave me time to charge that up :/. Could do 1500 when I got a full charge off though.

The axe is my favorite so far, the other weapons i feel them a lil bit clunky.

I think Eris stays until you break the wards to the surface

I like the way it’s slightly more complicated but ultimately very similar to Hades 1

Something I just noticed is that they skip intervals of 5 in the arcana cards. Maybe you can unlock them later?

Using IIII instead of IV is a jeweler's technique, you see that on some clocks and watches still.

I've been to Cerberus twice now, and I have YET to see Eris! Crazy there's an entire character someone terrible at the game like me may not meet.

I used to play hades 1, but then my laptop began to get lag spikes and it’s just unplayable now - I wonder if there’s any way to fix that these days. I really want to try hades 2 though 😭

I got a god build with axe and made it to the 4th boss with the debuff after killing the 3rd boss for the first time. +range and damage, + speed when spinning, reduce charge time on spin, +focus when standing in AOE, use attack and special while spinning. Infinite focus spin to win. It felt significantly stronger than any other build I played.

The only part that feels a lot harder is Tartarus I feel like. If you dont have your build solidly online by then, that area is pure agony. But other than that I feel like the games are rather similar in difficulty.

I miss my double dash :'(

axe is so cool, loving it with apollo too, would've had a pretty easy win 11th run if i didnt ruin it with a daedelus hammer

The main reason why it may feel more difficult is also because of the sprint system and not having 2 dashes to spam and dodge all

Definitely seems harder than the first after 12 hours. The first three bosses I've gotten used to now and don't cause me too much trouble, especially after Eris goes away (seriously what's with that), but I've gotten to the final boss 4 times now and it's rough. My builds for whatever reason just don't feel strong enough no matter what I do. I've had some that feel better than others but overall it feels like I'm never ready for the final boss. It is early access so maybe the weapons need some tuning or some of these boons need a look over. Most of the attack/special boons don't feel like they cause much of an impact. I mostly build a strong omega cast or omega attack. Those are the ones I've had the most success with. Another thing that might make it feel harder is how long it can take to unlock stuff. So many resources, plants, gifts, seeds. There's a lot to gather and pay attention to.

I find the axe to be the only weapon that feels good to use, it's also so strong that there is no point to using any of the other weapons.

that axe dragging reminds me of Tryndamere from League of Legends @Haelian

Only player a few hours today but man, feels like they neutered my boy Zeus.

got to cronos in 15 tries. but i get rolled everytime. some mobs are very annoying and i feel like you dont get enough damage boons which makes the bosses bullet sponges. the first 2 zones are pretty similar to the first game. also not a big fan of hex unless its the healing one.

"Is it easier or harder than Hades 1?" It is simultaneously much fairer, and MUCH less forgiving of mistakes. That said, last boss is so much harder.

34:01 it's me, I'm some people

i've played almost 20 hours of the game and have only found Eres in the last like 5 hours of play in the house (and in a spoiler spot, no one spoil it in the replied ikik) and i havent ever been cursed *once* i have no idea what causes that.

And my axe!

Spam and cheese is one of the most satisfying attributes to have in games like this (if not boring) :)

Find it way easier than the original. Got to chronos after around 8 runs.

So far some boons seem broken and others seem really underpowered. Looking forward to watching the balance develop as we get closer to full release.

Anyone got good build suggestions for the non-axe weapons? everything I try feels very potatoey by the time I get to the infernal beast

People are forgetting how hard Hades 1 was in early access. As someone who tested the previous since the beginning, it was definitely a backhand to the face and overtime they adjusted the difficulty curve. I will say the starting hp of Melinoe is too low though.

Does 2x dashing + divine dash still exist?

I managed to reach Chronos for the first time on my last run and got myself beat up. (I did it with the sister blades with aphro on attack paired with extra dose)

isnt it just the ax drag from the Ox in Hades I

I havent been able to get past hecate with axe, only weapon I'm doing decently with is the sister blades

Are they going to add stuff to the EA over time, or are they just going to wait until the full release?

Hestia is one of the best I can figure for spin

i honestly like the grind of this game. it feels like it requires more of you but in turn rewards you with more. i genuinely hope they keep it this way and don't lessen the requirements for some stuff. this game is the sequel, it should be harder and more robust and that should also include more reasons to go and fight which people are calling 'grindy' when it's actually just great game design that forces you to step out of your comfort zone a little more. i mean, if you don't know what you're looking for or aren't paying attention, you can be without aspects until after you beat the underworld. bronze isn't even down there (to my knowledge) of course we are still in EA so this stuff will be adjusted to appease the masses, not the few. but i really do hope this game philosophy resonates within the community and stays about the same. all in all, this game is what a sequel should be. i played way too much yesterday xD p.s. the boon that lets you attack while your omega attack is going off is GODLY with furious whirlwind. oh my god you are an absolute tank lmao

I'm on my 13th run, and have made it to Chronos 2x, haven't beat him yet. As of now I'd say it's harder, but that might change when I can craft builds better.

I feel like every new main attack boons are pathetic, everything except Demetra and Poseidon is water gun, also every weapon except axe is water gun. It's either I'm picking axe and pushing all way to Chronos or stuck at Scylla max. Good game, but need some balancing

axe blocking is too good

Now we need a mod to have Eris in the first game. I'm kidding